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BitTorrent Launches Dropbox Alternative

redletterdave writes "On Friday morning, BitTorrent launched the alpha test of a new, free public service called BitTorrent Sync, which allows users to securely back up and sync files over the Web using BitTorrent's platform. Unlike competing services such as Box or Dropbox, BitTorrent Sync doesn't store files on remote servers (which means that no third party has access to one's files), and also has no storage limits other than what your devices can hold."

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  1. Argh! by iluvcapra · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't find any seeders for my chemistry homework!

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    1. Re:Argh! by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I have been doing this for years.
      Zip up the files you want backed up, encrypt with your favourite encryption tool, then put it up on piratebay with a file name something like: Kari_Byron_XXX_PORN_3D.avi
      There will be thousands of seeders in an hour.

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    2. Re:Argh! by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Funny

      That link appears to be broken. ALSO PLZ SEED!

    3. Re:Argh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have been doing this for years.

      Zip up the files you want backed up, encrypt with your favourite encryption tool, then put it up on piratebay with a file name something like: Kari_Byron_XXX_PORN_3D.avi

      There will be thousands of seeders in an hour.

      If you really have been doing this for years, you may want to go check to see if any seeders are left. Yeah, you could get seeders at first, but once people realize its a bad file they are gone.

    4. Re:Argh! by jones_supa · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you really have been doing this for years, you may want to go check to see if any seeders are left. Yeah, you could get seeders at first, but once people realize its a bad file they are gone.

      But what if you encoded your backup in some real porn movie using steganography! That would be quite interesting.

    5. Re:Argh! by Richy_T · · Score: 3, Funny

      "I like the chick but when's she going to stop showing QR codes to the camera and get down to some action?"

    6. Re:Argh! by hierophanta · · Score: 3, Funny

      Kari Byron!!? I seeded all over the place

    7. Re:Argh! by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

      You people ruin Kari Byron pr0n for the rest of us.

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    8. Re:Argh! by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2

      Actually, this gave me an idea: why not back up your files steganographically in torrent files? Yes, the torrent files themselves -- let the trackers be your backup. It'd require a huge number of torrents for large files, but for anything small that you want to last a long time and be accessible anywhere, this could work quite well. Magnet files would probably work too.

  2. Re:WTF? by Aguazul2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe it is stored 'on the network' by keeping the packets in the air constantly. If you can't beat bufferbloat, might as well make use of it for storage.

  3. Re:WTF? by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Informative

    This PC mag article has a bit more info. Apparently the "unlimited storage" means whatever your phone or PC can hold.

    So it looks like what it's doing is syncing files between your devices... or backing up your phone to your PC (if you wanna look at it that way), via the internet and using BT protocol... so you don't have to plug a USB cable from your phone to PC.

  4. Re:This is old news. by Virtucon · · Score: 5, Funny

    ROFLMAO or seed it as Child Porn and have the government back it up for you.

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  5. Re:WTF? by Virtucon · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well I would think it's going to be a local or tunneled set of torrent streams but there's FreeFileSync which works quite well.

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  6. Almost perfect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wuala had a great P2P storage trading scheme, if you provided 100G to the swarm you got 100G of swarm storage. Then they stuffed it up by capping the storage to 2G unless you pay $n/GB

    Wuala missed the greatest opportunity, they should have allowed people in the swarm to trade storage for money and wuala could have taken a cut, say 30% like Apple do. This way the market sets the price per GB, but wuala always gets its cut, if you wanna pay to stor your chemistry homework then fine.

  7. Link to Sign Up by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 5, Informative

    Crappy links in the article. To sign up, er "apply", for the alpha:
    http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html

  8. Re:Seems like a bad idea. by coldsalmon · · Score: 2

    I don't think the data is stored anywhere except on the owner's devices. From what I can tell, the point is to sync data across devices, not to have "cloud" storage for your data. It performs the same sync function as Dropbox, without the cloud storage part. It is true that there are other ways to do this (e.g. Owncloud, mentioned by another poster). Bittorrent might have certain advantages, especially if you have the data synced with many different devices. If they can make it as simple as Dropbox, then I would be interested. I don't really need Dropbox's cloud storage, they just make it really easy to sync across many platforms.

  9. Truth becomes stranger than fiction. by SeaFox · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm reminded of the old joke that if you want you photos/videos/etc backed up in a way that will outlast traditional back up media lifespans, simply upload it to a torrent and let it stay on the Internet being seeded by strangers sharing your stuff.

    1. Re:Truth becomes stranger than fiction. by friedman101 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not to be rude but that is an awful joke.

  10. Re:WTF? by icebike · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It would be stored only on your own devices or on the devices of someone you trust.

    securely back up and sync files over the Web, using BitTorrent’s platform as both a backup and shared drive.

    Its not meant for wide distribution, just syncing machines with backup copies.
    So its not going to be sitting on vary many servers, and the people to whom your reveal/publish the link would be the only people who
    would even know about it. Because its all your own storage (in multiple locations) there is no system imposed limit.

    Still this would seem to allow sharing of files and warez between consenting users by private seeds.

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  11. Re:Google Drive by spongman · · Score: 2

    did you miss the part about not storing on 3rd party servers and having no storage limits?

  12. Re:Already an alternative http://owncloud.org by Junta · · Score: 2

    on an Amazon server and have as much storage as you want

    Well, one, hosting is not cheap, particularly if you are storage intensive. Having owncloud from the home is a solution around this... but fundamentally it represents a centralized model where you have a likely single point of failure. Your owncloud instance could be killed and all associated devices would be in a pickle.

    My assumption with this is that it is more decentralized. Meaning that it's more natural to reach a state where no particular instance is considered more important than others.

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  13. Not a "DROPBOX" Alternative - File Sync Yes by Jedi+Holocron · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is basically an "open source" version of what http://www.cubby.com/ did in their free beta--but is now a paid part of the service. It was called "DirectSync" ( https://www.cubby.com/features/ ) and didn't use any of the "cloud" part of storage from the service. You can see how it is now part of the paid service here: https://www.cubby.com/pricing/

    I would expect any number of other providers are looking at this for a paid service. High end versions would include Globalscape's WAFS ( http://www.globalscape.com/wafs/ ) and File Replication Pro ( http://www.filereplicationpro.com/ ).

    Free with good encryption is a great idea IMO. I for one would use it.

  14. You mean i can store my files... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...by storing them on my own storage? Brilliant!!!!!

  15. Re:WTF? by farble1670 · · Score: 2

    This isn't really anything groundbreaking technologically speaking

    i don't know if you call it groundbreaking, but it's fundamentally different that other file sync solutions because your data is not stored on a server somewhere. seems like a neat idea for folks that are nervous about having their data sitting out there in the cloud.

  16. This is a great thing, really by Thagg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was hoping to use exactly something like this years ago, when I had to transfer tens of GB to and from Korea every day when I was working at Hammerhead Productions. Using rsync was painfully slow, because TCP/IP required acknowledgement of each packet -- and even though our bandwidth was high, our latency was very long, and we were getting less than 1 Mbps rather than the 10 Mbps we should have been getting.

    Using something like BitTorrent, which uses UDP and does the error checking itself asynchronously would have been a huge help. We had multiple cable modems on both ends, and BitTorrent would have been perfect.

    In the end, I wrote a simple tool which copied files using scp, but ran 10 threads with 10 separate scp calls and got almost 10 Mbps from each cable modem.

    Aspera does similar things at insane prices.

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  17. Re:WTF? by Omegium · · Score: 2

    If it is not stored somewhere on the internet, then both your devices must be online to be able to share. It is not different from using sftp or https or any other direct protocol that can transfer files. And I doubt that bittorrent is the most efficient one for that. But their real reason is probably to increase legitimate bittorrent use, to make it harder for ISP's to block it.