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With 128GB, iPad Hits Surface Pro, Ultrabook Territory
noh8rz10 writes "Holy moly! iPad gets a heavyweight sibling, clicking in at 128GB. This places it in range of storage for Surface Pro and ultrabooks. It's clearly targeted at the professional market, as the press release cites X-rays and CAD files as reasons. Should Microsoft be afraid? Methinks so. Best part, pricing is growing by log 2. Just as the 32GB version is $100 more than the 16, and the 64 is $100 more than the 32, this new version is $100 more than the 64!" Update: 01/29 16:00 GMT by T : Here's Apple's announcement itself.
Because the amount of storage is the only things that's different between an ipad and an ultrabook...
Besides content consumption, that is...
why the hell is this on slashdot? Seriously - I love apple products but this is ridiculous.
A:) It was inevitable that Apple would bring out a 128GB product
B:) I fully believe Ipads are eating into ultrabooks, surfaces and general notebook sales - but capacity is not why! Convenience is why.
Ultrabooks and notebooks still have their uses and are NOT comparable to Ipads. The only thing people have been questioning is if their usage really requires the limitations (size) of ultrabooks.
The surface and Surface Pro will likely fail on their own merits, just like the XP tablets from before.
Redundant article is redundant.
Also, it's not in their news section.
And the linked article doesn't cite any sources.
With 128GB, iPad Hits Surface Pro, Ultrabook Territory
You get 100% of the software from the Apple App store, it doesn't take MicroSD, and doesn't have a USB port. Keep fucking dreaming but that's not an ultrabook.
the deuce you say, sir!
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Available Feb 5, according to Apple's press release. http://www.cultofmac.com/212986/apple-will-start-selling-128gb-ipad-next-week/
Logarithmic pricing or not, if you're paying a $300 premium for this version of the iPad (vs. the 16GB version), that's a seriously lousy price on flash storage; typical SSD prices these days are on the order of $180 for a 250GB SSD (and I've seen sale prices as low as $140-150). Apple's doing this with a lot of other products these days, too: the RAM on their laptops isn't user-serviceable any more, so you have to buy it built-in at hugely inflated prices.
--- Bwah?
In addition to their existing 128GB model that's referenced in the summary? Or do you mean a 128GB model that actually has 128GB, not 83GB plus a 45GB OS?
Or you could buy a phone that allows you to add an SD card for far less than the ripoff price that Apple expects you to pay for 64GB of flash storage.
Apple Increases iPad with Retina Display to 128GB
Most users won't have a need for this much space because they just don't generate or accumulate that many files, given the sandboxed file system. "Open in another app" is a somewhat clunky workaround. But there are definitely professional uses for more space. People who need to load the iPad up with training videos, autocad files, etc. I've recently started using an app called "Scanner Pro" to quickly create PDFs of physical documents that cross my desk every day for later reference, and the more I've become accustomed to storing everything and having it in my pocket (the iPad mini just barely fits in my pocket), the more I've started to wonder about when I'll hit the limit where I'll need to think about what to keep and what to delete. At this rate, probably not for another year, but it would be nice to have years worth of these documents on the iPad ready to be called up.
Is someone feeling the pain from his Apple heavy portfolio? Looking to recover last week's loss asap?
your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
The whole point of Surface Pro is to actually develop apps on it, its a hybrid device that is a little tablet and a little laptop. Only stupid people think that iPad with 128gb of storage is intended to compete with Surface Pro, or Ultrabooks for that matter.
Until Apple allows the iPad to support content creation (true content creation, not the limited "hold your hands" approach to content creation that it currently has), then I don't think anybody should confuse iPad in the same market as Ultrabooks, or the jack of all trades Surface Pro.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
OP is talking about Windows Surface, where Win 8 or Win RT eats up a lot of storage.
When you spend your days in a Williamsburgh coffee shop, waiting for your family to send the rent check while you wait for some employer to recognize the value of your BFA in Film Studies, sometimes Apple love is all you have. Well, that and the muttonchops.
So a 1000$ iPad with 128GB storage. So overpriced with limited storage for a Ultrabook...
A more apt comparison might be that I just bought a Samsung Galaxy S 3 for 50$ (plus 3yr contract of course), and spent 60$ to put an additional 64GB microSD card in it. I got the cheap 16GB version so I *only* have 80GB of storage. However this has been available for about 7 months now, not currently not released.
I would guess this trend will only continue to get bigger/better. I broke the chains to Apple a week ago, and that is one of the reasons why.
Another reason why? Well an ultrabook usually runs a real processor, not a mobile one (well a mobile version of a real processor). By that I mean something made by Intel or AMD, not Motorola, VIA, designed by ARM, or called A#, or Snapdragon, etc...
It is a stupid comparion. Its just a mobile device with more "apple" memory than they have allowed in the past. Considering two 64GB microSD chips cost a grand total of 120$ retail, one can see how Apple makes its money with such high margins.
128GB should be enough for anyone.
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If they introduced an ipad with twice the ram and an iOS update with a more multi-tasking-friendly UI I would be impressed. If Apple added an external storage slot, I would be tempted. But bumping up the internal flash from 64G to 128G and charging $1000 for it? Sorry, in this heavily networked world that's almost completely worthless.
-Matt
I'm not sure why I was modded informative either. My first point was the AC I was replying to was too thick to read the summary and realize the 128GB iPad was in response to the 128GB Surface Pro, so Microsoft will not "have to come out with" a 128GB model. My second point was that in spite of already having a 128GB Surface Pro, it's limited to about 83GB after the OS and other stuff that comes on it, whereas the iPads typicially give you much closer to the amount of storage they're sold as having.
In my opinion, the iPad is overpriced for what it does anyway, and the only real advantage of the Surface Pro is to run x86 programs - but even that is a niche because it's competing against less expensive laptops/netbooks with the same level of portability and some even have touchscreens. I'll happily stick to my Nook Color with Cyanogenmod for my tablet needs.
Flash storage is superior to disk for 80% of applications, and I say this as an IT guy with a bias against apple. Try running 3 VMs on a single hardrive, first spinning, then flash; THEN tell me that its "mindless nonsense".
What really sold me was realizing that a $15k SAN loaded with drives hits about 5% of the IOPs of a $200 SSD, and about a third of the burst throughput.
So the iPad can run x86 code now?
No?
Does it have a pressure sensitive stylus now?
No?
So all this story is about is extending capacity that I can achieve with a $40 USB dongle on the aforementioned devices?
but a 64 GB SD card is less than $50.
The desire to not have ignorant users like yourself gimp the iPad with slow flash memory is why Apple does not have an SD port. Come to think of it, that is also why GOOGLE is building more devices now without an SD port now also. Performance is guaranteed.
The iPad 3 had storage they can write to at up to 22MB/s, and read from at 78MB/s... the card you listed can do neither of those things as quickly despite the 50MB/s claim on the front.
If you really want to attach an SD card to read movies or media from just buy a camera connection kit and attach it to the iPad that way.
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run almost any software ever written
Actually you can't. You can't run any of the 300k apps written specifically for the iPad, or the millions more iPhone apps that exist. Just as there is a world of software the iPad cannot run, there is a world of software you cannot run. Only the iPad has the more modern software being written today...
type on it with physical feedback (and backlit keys)
Yeah we can do that on an iPad thanks.
attach USB flash drives to it
Camera connection kit on an iPad.
backup an entire disk image to external media on a USB 3.0 port
backup an entire disk image to external media on a USB 3.0 port
Backs up just fine on any computer via iTunes.
upgrade or downgrade the OS
You can do both (downgrades a bit more work).
upgrade the SSD, upgrade the webcam
Should have bought decent parts to begin with.
play legacy games
You really have not looked at the iPad software market recently, have you?
If anyone still thinks their ipad is an ultrabook
I know it's not an Ultrabook. It's more useful than that. I have a real laptop for the other things I need to do.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
So, if I wanted to, I could install Android on my ipad3? Or Linux?
People buy iPads because they want to run iOS. If they wated to run Android, they would look to Apple's competitors, perhaps even Samsung.
Shut up for Odin's sake. If we had a nickel for every moron that believed every mundane news article about Company A meant subby was in the pocket of Company A, we could package all you twits up in a rocket and shoot you to the Moon. Apple is the biggest deal in tech right now. Does that offend you? Move to Botswana.
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Slashdot has many posts, all about technology, science, and things that interest nerds in general.
One of those things that are indisputably technology-related, and of nerd interest is Apple, including iPads, including iPads getting 128GB of storage. No matter how you look at it, this is news, and it's *good* news.
Ok, so you don't like Apple, or iPads, or more storage, or something. Good for you! But to mischaracterize Slashdot as an Apple fanboy blog (holy shit have you got that 180 off!), or to piss and moan over a positive story about Apple is absurd. Why the hate? Why not just go, "not of interest to me, but a good story for those for whom it is of interest". What harm does it do you?
All tech is fun, even tech you don't have or don't want. I'm not terribly excited about Windows 8, but it doesn't bother me or harm me when someone else enjoys a Windows 8 tablet. It's great for them that they have something fun and interesting to them. Getting upset over someone liking something I don't like only makes me worse, and annoys the poor sods who have to listen to me whine.