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Turning SF's Bay Bridge Into a Giant LED Display

waderoush writes "It may be the biggest art hack ever: a project to install 25,000 individually addressable LED lights on the western span of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge. New York-based 'light sculptor' Leo Villareal was in San Francisco last week to test the vast 'Bay Lights' art installation, which will officially debut on March 5 and last for two years; Xconomy has photos and video of Villareal running the light show from his laptop. To optimize his algorithms and figure out which patterns would be most interesting or arresting, Villareal needed to experiment on the bridge itself, says Bay Lights director Ben Davis, who has raised $5.8 million for the project so far. 'This has never been done before in history — literally debugging software 500 feet in the air, in front of a million people,' says Davis."

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  1. Rearranging the patterns != debugging by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lets stop the overuse and abuse of legitimate technical terms already. It's like calling him a "hacker" - oh wait, TFA and TFEditor already did. I guess it makes sense the the "director" is the one using the term - since he's the farthest from the actual work, you'd expect him to be the most out of touch.

    Woz and Linus are hackers, and debuggers... and some would argue artists. This guy is perhaps an artist, but no hacker.

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    1. Re:Rearranging the patterns != debugging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not exactly...the term "bug" has its origins that far back, but "debug" wasn't used until the mid 1940s (only shortly before the famous literal de-bugging of the Mark II).

    2. Re:Rearranging the patterns != debugging by SternisheFan · · Score: 4, Informative
      Origin of the term 'debug', from wikipedia:

      There is some controversy over the origin of the term "debugging".

      The terms "bug" and "debugging" are both popularly attributed to Admiral Grace Hopper in the 1940s.[1] While she was working on a Mark II Computer at Harvard University, her associates discovered a moth stuck in a relay and thereby impeding operation, whereupon she remarked that they were "debugging" the system. However the term "bug" in the meaning of technical error dates back at least to 1878 and Thomas Edison (see software bug for a full discussion), and "debugging" seems to have been used as a term in aeronautics before entering the world of computers. Indeed, in an interview Grace Hopper remarked that she was not coining the term. The moth fit the already existing terminology, so it was saved.

      The Oxford English Dictionary entry for "debug" quotes the term "debugging" used in reference to airplane engine testing in a 1945 article in the Journal of the Royal Aeronautical Society; Hopper's bug was found on September 9, 1947. The term was not adopted by computer programmers until the early 1950s. The seminal article by Gill [2] in 1951 is the earliest in-depth discussion of programming errors, but it does not use the term "bug" or "debugging". In the ACM's digital library, the term "debugging" is first used in three papers from 1952 ACM National Meetings.[3][4][5] Two of the three use the term in quotation marks. By 1963, "debugging" was a common enough term to be mentioned in passing without explanation on page 1 of the CTSS manual.[6] Kidwell's article Stalking the Elusive Computer Bug[7] discusses the etymology of "bug" and "debug" in greater detail..

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debugging#Origin

  2. debugging by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Funny

    Debugging isn't really interesting just because you do it in the air. A lot of people do that on longer flights and call that "Tuesday". On the other hand, the endless potentials for hacking this thing to display something obscene are going to be nearly irresistable to a certain kind of person. You know the type I'm talking about. (dramatic pause)

    Yes, you.

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    1. Re:debugging by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      Debugging isn't really interesting just because you do it in the air. A lot of people do that on longer flights and call that "Tuesday". On the other hand, the endless potentials for hacking this thing to display something obscene are going to be nearly irresistable to a certain kind of person. You know the type I'm talking about. (dramatic pause)

      Yes, you.

      One word: goatse.

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  3. Hyperbole by thenextstevejobs · · Score: 2

    Literally never done before? This person perhaps isn't familiar with other computerized enterprises that have been witnessed by millions of people. Space shuttle launches? How about massive light shows for concerts?

    Get over yourself.

    That aside, I hope it's a good show, and gets more folks interested in art and technology and keeps money flowing into those kind of works.

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  4. Are you reading, Chris Hadfield? by MrEricSir · · Score: 2

    If you get a chance could you let us know how this looks from space?

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  5. Biggest project? Really... by MindPrison · · Score: 4, Funny

    [quote] It may be the biggest art hack ever: a project to install 25,000 individually addressable LED lights [/quote]

    Uhm, have you ever seen peoples Christmas led projects? Google it, check it on youtube. There are literally roofs made as video screens with millions of leds all over the house, all individually addressable.

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  6. Re:ok..contribute to light-pollution & energy- by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 2

    They have better things to do than snipe at you on slashdot.

    I don't.

  7. Re:LED module? by hawguy · · Score: 4, Funny

    The hardware is Bay Bridge. The Chinese knockoff will be available around Labor Day 2013.

  8. In other news today. by Zeio · · Score: 3, Funny

    The cost of living here is outrageous. The city, county and state are bankrupt. THe middle class is shrinking, schools stink, and the situation is dire.

    Let's get Effie Trinket to drape lights all over the bridges and say oo and aaaah.

    Unreal.

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  9. Re:Grumpy by Mr.+Frilly · · Score: 2

    As somebody who presently lives 3 blocks from this, let me tell you, this "art" project is TACKY. It would work in Las Vegas, but the Bay Bridge is too dignified for this sort of crap. Can't wait for it to be removed.

  10. What is the point of this "art hack" ? by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 2

    I appreciate arts.

    I appreciate arts that are meaningful.

    Good music. Nice paintings. Beautiful sculptures.

    Those are arts.

    On the other hand, there are a lot of "arts" that I have serious doubt. Such as this "art hack".

    Just because this thing uses 25,000 individually addressable LED lights, doesn't make it "artsy".

    Just because the thing runs from the person's laptop doesn't make it "art", either.

    What is there to stop this from turning into a pissing contests ?

    Someone-else gonna come up with yet-another-project using 35,000 individually addressable LED lights, or 45,000, or 55,000 ... since, "bigger is better", right?

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  11. Translation here :- by nukenerd · · Score: 2

    "Art" --> "Advertising"

    I find it sad that an icon of international repute (I am in the UK) is to be used as a billboard, of even for someone's art. Such bridges are already art in themselves. It is like using an Old Master as a base for some aerosol art.

  12. Lights on a bridge by tehcyder · · Score: 4, Informative

    If that's great art, the Christmas lights at my local pub were a fucking timeless masterpiece.

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  13. Yawn - hyperbole, hype, crap by water-and-sewer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I dunno.

    a) This isn't really 'hacking.' I find some of the stuff they do o HackaDay way more interesting than this. There, they're combining existing tools and systems in ways never before envisioned. There's real creativity there. This guy is basically doing something that's been done a lot already (every Xmas, in some towns) but on a much larger scale. Boring!

    b) As an engineer, if you're debugging in front of millions of people, you F'ed up! You design your system, prototype it, test it, scale it, then build it. If you're debugging on "go day," you are a colossal failure.

    c) How the hell did people decide to chip in millions of dollars for this stunt? Sure, it will look cool. But aren't there more interesting/clever uses for that kind of funding? Oh well, that's America.

    Finally, I'm thinking this would be WAY more interesting if someone truly cracks into the guy's software, and on "go day," instead of the image of flags waving in the breeze, the image projected is something unspeakably horrifying.

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  14. Taiwan is full of this sort of thing by Peter+Simpson · · Score: 2

    When I visited Taipei for the first time, I was amazed at the number of LED-lighted buildings and structures. It seemed like every building and bridge was lit by colored LEDs, many in continuously changing patterns. Once I thought about it a bit, it was obvious, that the home of the LED should be decorated with LEDs. Silicon Valley deserves something like this. If it's done well, it can be a signature piece for the area. I hope it succeeds.

  15. Speaking as a professional Lighting Designer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...there's a lot of hyperbole in that article. While 25,000 LEDs is larger than your standard Christmas light display, this is hardly an unheard-of scale install. A couple points:

    - These appear to be single-color LED 'pixels', so its safe to assume that each 'pixel' is one control channel. The standard entertainment control protocol allows 512 control channels per 'universe', meaning the entire install is just under 50 universes. That's going to be larger than your standard theatrical show (some shows being in the 10-20 universe range), but I've done plenty of shows that use far more universes than that (Thanks media servers. Love you and Hate you).
    - Legacy cabling systems (DMX) would make controlling 50 universes a bit challenging, however sACN systems (essentially DMX over IP) would make this fairly trivial.
    - I should hope they're not actually 'debugging' software for this. There are plenty of industry standard systems that could control this wihtout the need to write your own software. Indeed, there are even systems that would take in a video signal and output the necessary control commands to the LEDs, so you wouldn't even need to do the standard lighting programming.
    - You're not going to be able to output 50 sACN universes from a laptop, so the laptop is probably just a frontend to installed hardware somewhere else. Then again, as someone who does lighting for a living, I'd just like to say that laptops make crappy control surfaces (specialized control surfaces FTW).
    - I'm confused as to why you would need to do anything other than final integration testing once the fixtures are installed on the bridge. Turn everything on, do a linear chase to make sure everything is installed in the correct order and talking, maybe run a cue for giggles, and you're done. There are plenty of industry-standard pre-vis tools (i.e. Cast WYSIWYG) that would eliminate the need to design with the rig up-and-running. Most larger events takes weeks to design and program, and you would normally never have the luxury of having the actual rig to play with for that amount of time.
    - Doing lighting projects like this are hardly uncommon any more, and there have been plenty of projects that have used bridges. I'm not saying its not a cool thing to do, but its not as 'groundbreaking' as the article states.

    Either the article is all hyperbole to make the project sound more exciting, or the so-called 'light sculptor' has really no idea what he's doing.