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Hacker Faces 105 Years In Prison After Blackmailing 350+ Women

redletterdave writes "According to the 30-count indictment released by the Central District of California, 27-year-old hacker Karen 'Gary' Kazaryan allegedly hacked his way into hundreds of online accounts, using personal information and nude or semi-nude photos of his victims to coerce more than 350 female victims to show him their naked bodies, usually over Skype. By posing as a friend, Kazaryan allegedly tricked these women into stripping for him on camera, capturing more than 3,000 images of these women to blackmail them. Kazaryan was arrested by federal agents on Tuesday; if convicted on all 30 counts, including 15 counts of computer intrusion and 15 counts of aggravated identity theft, Kazaryan could face up to 105 years in federal prison."

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  1. Plea bargain by Paul+Johnson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But no doubt he'll take the plea bargain and spend a mere 1% of that in a low security prison, just like Aaron was supposed to.

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    1. Re:Plea bargain by canadiannomad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is true, and it means that justice will probably be served in his case. But the problem I see is using the extortion of long sentences to force a plea bargain to avoid time in court. That is in my opinion where there is something going wrong with the system, and that we should all be worried about it.
      In my opinion plea bargains are just begging to be abused by the system and creates a mockery of due process.

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    2. Re:Plea bargain by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 3, Funny

      "computer intrusion" certainly sounds like a sex crime, from a computer's point of view...

  2. Evidence by rbgaynor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now, now - let's not rush to justice until we've had a chance to see the evidence.

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  3. Obvious moral by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just like in the Anthony Wiener scandal, the clear bit of advice to come out of this: Never, ever, ever transmit pictures of yourself over a computer network with fewer clothes on than you'd wear in public.

    I'm sure some people find that kind of thing fun, but the simple fact is that the damage is greater than getting many STDs.

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  4. "begging to"? by gatfirls · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That ship sailed long ago. Coincidentally, our system of 'due process' is basically one massive blackmail racket. If things operated as intended it would be an invaluable tool for the courts and the defendants to provide a win/win. In our completely perverted system charges are trumped up to the maximum (even completely fabricated) levels to force a plea.

    1. Re:"begging to"? by Synerg1y · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's why plea bargains exist... to avoid trials and keep the court's resources in check. The problem there is that an innocent person might be scared of getting sentenced to life and accept the 5 year prison deal instead of going to trial and stating their case. Of course, if you're truly innocent you'll win the trial in the perfect world, but we're not perfect.

    2. Re:"begging to"? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Not all plea deals are bad

      But many of them are.

      I don't believe the court system would handle everything going to trial.

      When I was in the military back in the 1980s, if a defendant pleaded guilty in either an NJP or court martial, the presiding officer or judge was required to conduct a "providency hearing" and conclude, and document, that the plea was actually in the defendants best interest. I probably conducted over a hundred NJPs, and I never once , accepted a guilty plea. Usually this was because it was not in the defendants best interest, but also because a finding of guilty in a providency hearing could be an avenue for appeal, which would be a lot more paperwork. In several of those cases, there was insufficient evidence for a conviction, and the defendant got off.

      Civilian courts should have something similar. Before a judge accepts a guilty plea, they should have to review the evidence, and conclude that the defendant is probably actually guilty of what they are admitting to, although the standard would be less than "beyond a reasonable doubt". This would eliminate the most egregious plea bargins, but still allow most to go forward.

    3. Re:"begging to"? by jxander · · Score: 5, Interesting

      While I was fortunate enough to never undergo NJP during my military career, I can see one major flaw with moving that system into the civilian sector : Chain of Command

      In the Marines, my boss at work was also my boss overseeing my personal life (to a degree) and on up the chain. This gives us a vested interest in not crippling someone via monetary penalties or jail/brig time. I knew a few guys who got NJP'ed for a few things, and there was almost a family-type thought process in place. We'll take care of it in-house, punish the person for their stupidity, and get them back on their feet so they can keep working and stay combat ready.

      A judge in civilian court doesn't know you, doesn't care if you're living on ramen noodles and sleeping in your car for the next year. That judge is never going into combat with you. You could literally step into traffic and die as soon as you leave the courthouse, and the judge would not be affected in the least. They just want to set an example of you, and bilk you for as much money as they can, because that money goes straight into the city coffers. Which brings up another major difference that hurts NJP in a civilian setting : Barracks and the Chow Hall (or BAH and comrats) No matter how much money you garnish from a Marine's paycheck, they will always have three square meals and a roof over their head.

      I'd love to see some sanity instilled in the Justice system, and I think NJP might be a decent starting point ... but it's going to need some serious revisions before it works outside of the military.

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  5. I HATE this by SoTerrified · · Score: 5, Interesting

    He's scum. He preyed on innocents without remorse and deserves punishment. And yet you're going to give him more jail time than he'd get for MURDER?

    I hate that I have to stand beside him and say this is wrong. I hate that I have to support someone so despicable. I hate that the flawed system actually makes me support people like Gary Kazaryan.

    And yet it's something I must do.

    1. Re:I HATE this by 0111+1110 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What if he had blackmailed 1,000 women? 10,000 women? 100,000 women? How many blackmailed and recorded strip tease sessions would he have to have forced women into before he deserved life?

      There is no number. He could 'blackmail' an infinite number of people and it wouldn't merit significantly more punishment in my view than a single one. Any other view would be consistent with hanging habitual, serial shoplifters. Something I would regard as barbaric and far, far worse than the original crimes. At some point, draconian punishments themselves become more of a crime than the original act. This is one such case. If this guy gets any significant amount of jail time I would consider him more of a victim than any of the women.

      Would you feel this crime was minor if the blackmail had led to a suicide?

      I would still consider the crime to be a relatively minor one, but it would become more serious with a suicide since it would show that the act, even though it was minor, resulted in serious harm to that particular individual. I would consider him partially responsible for her death.

      I would still judge the girl in question badly however because having a nude picture posted to your facebook account is an unbelievably silly thing to kill yourself over. You may as well kill yourself over a broken nail. If she was that sensitive it would have been only a matter of time before she had killed herself anyway. If being seen naked by some of her friends makes her kill herself just imagine what she would do if a boyfriend that she liked broke up with her?

      A teacher would be fired if such pictures get posted publicly, and there are many other companies which may do so as well.

      That injustice would not be the man's fault. If you want to punish someone for harming the teacher, punish the people at the school or company responsible for such stupidity. You can't hold the guy responsible for the harmful behavior of others.

      Could you not see how this could ruin various peoples lives?

      No I can't. I have had far more embarrassing things happen to me and it didn't ruin my life in any way whatsoever. I was just embarrassed. It's not the end of the world. There is nothing wrong or shameful about nudity. We all have relatively similar bodies. It's just not a big deal. And I am speaking as someone ashamed of my body. I wish I had a beautiful body that I would be sufficiently proud of to post online to anyone, but I don't.

      How many lives would need to be hurt and by how much before it becomes a major crime?

      I don't think a 'crime' as minor as this could ever become a major crime no matter how many 'victims'.

      Then again, if you don't feel inflicting emotional trauma on people can ever be serious, then I am glad you are not a lawmaker or judge, and saddened that you may serve in a jury.

      Emotional trauma over being seen naked? That's almost funny. If anyone is that sensitive then they have far larger problems already. I think it would cause far greater emotional trauma to know that you were partially responsible for taking the life of another human being because you were bothered about being seen naked.

      Emotional trauma can always be argued. Does a man cheating on his wife cause emotional trauma and would it be more than being accidentally seen naked? Should we be filling our prisons with cheating husbands and wives? With anyone who has ever lied to someone who loved them? How about anyone who breaks up with someone who loves them? Should we just hang them all? Put them in prison for the rest of their lives?

      I still feel emotional pain over my first girlfriend breaking up with me 20 years ago. Should she be jailed for the hurt she has caused me? Okay, it would be satisfying in a way, but I wouldn't want to live in a society where every time someone is hurt emotionally the person who ca

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    2. Re:I HATE this by Yosho · · Score: 3, Insightful

      rape
      noun
      1. the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
      2. any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
      3. statutory rape.
      4. an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.
      5. Archaic. the act of seizing and carrying off by force.

      The dictionary disagrees with you. You don't get to redefine words just because you want something to sound exceedingly awful. If there's no intercourse, it's not rape. That doesn't mean it's not terrible and wrong, but it does mean you have to find a different word if you want to be taken seriously.

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  6. The Taliban blames the victim by kawabago · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We don't.

    1. Re:The Taliban blames the victim by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're FSM-right we don't. We're supposed to be the good guys here.

      This asshole (allegedly) blackmailed 350 people. I say allegedly because he hasn't been convicted in a court of law, which again, is the way we do things around here. You know, in motherfucking civilization.

      This is not the victim's fault. What the hell is wrong with you people?

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    2. Re:The Taliban blames the victim by tnk1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What it comes down to is this:

      It is not the victim's fault that they got robbed or raped or whatever at any time.

      However, society cannot prevent and cannot be responsible for preventing it from happening. There are animals out there and just telling them to respect your right to dress how you want isn't going to change the fact that they are animals and possibly mentally unbalanced.

      So, it is not the victim's fault that they are a victim, but they cannot rely on that to prevent them from becoming a victim, and if they do, they are fools. Reasonable arguments only work on reasonable people. Criminals and particularly criminally insane people are not reasonable. Dress to match the environment you are in and maintain situational awareness of your environment and the dangers.

    3. Re:The Taliban blames the victim by morgauxo · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, in the context of a man physically raping a woman and the Taliban punishing the woman I'm pretty sure most of us here, myself included disagree with the Taliban. I think we can all also agree that Kazaryan is the only one involved who set out to harm others (in a sense) and is the only one deserving of legal punishment.

      However.. these victims ARE also at fault. They did something stupid. They sent naked pictures of themselves to someone on the internet without even verifying who it really was. It cannot be called anything else, it was STUPID. I'm sorry, but there is way to much stupid out there. It's long past time to give up on political correctness and call it what it is. STUPID! Point it out and hope that between someone somewhere's ears the lesson actually sticks. We need this because we have way too much stupid in our society.

    4. Re:The Taliban blames the victim by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can be the victim and not be innocent.
      This is the problem with Black Market activities. Both sides are breaking the law, so if one side breaks the deal there is little recourse to prevent it. However at some point the crime is worth more for the victim to complain while they may get punished for their crime, but the victimizer may get a lot more.

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    5. Re:The Taliban blames the victim by thesandtiger · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nope.

      Blackmail is ALWAYS the fault of the person seeking to take advantage of another person.

      In this case, women took nude pictures (or videos, I guess) of themselves. Not illegal, and it's only naughty if you're a puritan, and frankly even then it's pretty pathetic to think of it as anything naughty. Do you consider yourself to be some kind of bastion of morality? If so, what gives you the right? And if not, then where the hell do you get off trying to say other people are being naughty or not in regards to things that are completely irrelevant to you?

      In other, more extreme cases, people have been blackmailed for things that carry a social stigma but are, according to decent human beings, perfectly OK. Example: Secret Jews during the Nazi regime. You think they were at fault (you DID say 'ALWAYS') because unscrupulous neighbors threatened to turn them in? Example: Closeted gay folk. You think they are at fault because some people decided to threaten to out them? Example: People who believe in religion X when religion Y is the official religion of their country. Example: People who don't toe the party line in countries where the party is the law. Example: Do I really have to give you more examples, or are you able to acknowledge that maybe your hyperbole and your victim blaming are wrong?

      The person at fault when it comes to blackmail is the person who chose to try and take advantage of another human being. Period. And you should damn well know better if you're old enough to be posting on the Internet unsupervised. And you should feel bad about being so stupid you didn't think your opinion through before trying to voice it with your all caps removal of any possible wiggle room in the form of 'ALWAYS.'

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  7. Re:Won't come close to that by shaitand · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Why? Then you just trivialize what he did and make it so other people can do this."

    Because what he did was trivial. He tricked some girls into letting him see them naked. OMG. They are just bodies for god sake we all have them and they will all show them to hundreds of guys over the course of their life and regret many of those times. But but he LIED. Yes he lied and those same girls will no doubt have been lied to by every guy they sleep with to some degree or another. All men are willing to lie or withhold, or otherwise twist the truth to get laid.

    What he did is morally reprehensible but hardly criminal. It makes him worthy of despising and calling a pig but then so would a more severe action like cheating on a girlfriend.

    "a $500 fine for criminally using someone else's account? No way"

    He didn't use someone's bank account. He used their social networking account in a way that results in absolutely no tangible damage to anyone. The bar for identity theft can't just be pretending to be someone else in a harmless prank and if that is going to be the bar then yes the punishments have to dropped to something appropriate for a harmless prank. What next? If he pretends to be a friend confirming his alibi to his girlfriend/wife on the phone so he can sleep around we charge him with identity theft and communications fraud?

  8. Re:This guy would make a perfect lamb.... by Algae_94 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course, because convincing some marks to send you nude photos of themselves and then blackmailing them is totally equivalent to repeated violent rape. How can you even pretend to be appalled by this guy's actions when you would like an even worse penalty for him?

  9. Re:No sympathy for this one.... by SirGarlon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I mean, they already were posting nude images of themselves, what would they care if they had it posted in a few more places on the internet.

    Two problems there.

    First, they were not posting images of themselves on the open Internet. They were storing images of themselves online, in, as they say, "the cloud," behind password access. Which the suspect allegedly hacked.

    Second, your suggestion that possessing nude photos of one's self voids one's expectation of privacy is sexist and objectionable.

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  10. 105 Years versus LIBOR by tekrat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, let me get this straight...
    This shmoe could face up to 105 years because of "XX" number of counts of the exact same crime.

    By that way of thinking, each perpetrator of the LIBOR fixing scandal committed acts which affected millions or perhaps billions of people. Shouldn't THEIR sentence be something then on the order of millions of years of prison?

    And yet, NOT ONE person is going to go to jail for LIBOR. Aaron committed suicide over his potential 50 years, for downloading some crap, but LIBOR guys are going to have their banks pay a small fine, they are still going to get their bonuses, corner offices, mansions, Ferraris, Yachts and hot babes in bikinis.

    Dude, if your going to commit a crime, think big -- as in "too big to fail", "too big to prosecute" -- Frankly, if Lance Armstrong had just been Lance Armstrong Bank, he'd still have all his medals, and everyone would still be doing business with him, because they'd have no choice.

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    1. Re:105 Years versus LIBOR by RazorSharp · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I completely agree. Yet another story that highlights how prosecutors are given entirely too much power and there's no way to hold them accountable. The most messed up part is that we're sending non-violent criminals to prison. Everyone cheered when Madoff was sent to prison, I didn't hear a single person mention the eighth amendment. No one mentioned that, as a prison inmate, he would just be a further burden to society.

      Unless a person is a threat to society, I can't see the justification for putting them in prison. That's what jails should be for, they shouldn't be a camp of retribution, of societal vengeance. If a person is drunk and disorderly in public, or drinking and driving, they get thrown in the drunk tank until the next day. That makes sense, that's reasonable. They're a threat to society until they sober up. If a person kills someone and it's not in self defense, then they've proven themselves to be irrational and dangerous. They need to be kept away from the greater society.

      If this guy is guilty, should be be punished? No doubt. Should he serve a single day in jail/prison? Absolutely not. That doesn't benefit anyone except the corporations that run our prison system. Community service should be the standard punishment for most crimes because it's a form of restitution to society. But no, the standard form of punishment is a fine or time. A fine that goes to paying for the out of control penal system that the U.S. employs on both a state and federal level.

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  11. Re:No sympathy for this one.... by JeanCroix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Second, your suggestion that possessing nude photos of one's self voids one's expectation of privacy is sexist and objectionable.

    How is it sexist? He could have just as easily been blackmailing men here...

  12. Re:105 Years versus HSBC money laundering by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Informative

    The HSBC money laundering case is another good one: That bank was caught laundering billions for drug lords, and there will be no jail time for anybody involved.

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