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60M Euro Smooths Relations Between Google and French Publishers

New submitter Flozzin writes with news of some resolution to the long-standing dispute that some French publishers have had with Google for republishing snippets of news reports without sharing revenue earned from the ads run alongside. Now, reports the BBC, "Google has agreed to create a 60m euro ($82m; £52m) fund to help French media organisations improve their internet operations. It follows two months of negotiations after local news sites had demanded payment for the privilege of letting the search giant display their links. The French government had threatened to tax the revenue Google made from posting ads alongside the results."

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  1. Get it right by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google is not paying for the "privilege" of showing links to newspapers on its search engine. They are paying because they created Google News which uses snippets of those stories to create a valuable news web site that brings in significant advertising revenue and traffic to other Google services.

    The newspapers argument is that they built a news site for free using other people's content. If you go to the Google search page it doesn't tell you the news, you have to know it already in order to search for it. Google News gives you what the newspapers consider valuable information for free, using their content as a source. Additionally they are claiming that the click-through rates are very low because the multiple headlines and snippets often give people as much information as they want.

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    1. Re:Get it right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      No they don't. This is Google News:
      https://news.google.com/
      That's not giving away the content, in any case. Each teaser is shorter than a slashdot summary.

      And you don't already have to know the news to search for it, you just go to news.google.com

      Seriously, how can someone be so anxious to post bogus info as if they're "clarifying"?

    2. Re:Get it right by LordKronos · · Score: 2, Funny

      No they don't. This is Google News:
      https://news.google.com/
      That's not giving away the content, in any case. Each teaser is shorter than a slashdot summary.

      And you don't already have to know the news to search for it, you just go to news.google.com

      Seriously, how can someone be so anxious to post bogus info as if they're "clarifying"?

      Are you kidding me? Come on, be serious. How about this one, on Google News now:

      Twitter: Hackers hit 250000 accounts
      USA TODAY - 5 minutes ago
      Twitter hacked on the heels of several high-profile cyberattacks on U.S. media giants. Twitter logo. TheTwitter logo is displayed at the entrance of Twitter headquarters in San Francisco.

      Now that I know WHERE the twitter logo is displayed, what more could I possibly want out of the article?

    3. Re:Get it right by jellomizer · · Score: 2

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      Americans: Here is a few million Euros.
      Europeans: You Americans your all right.

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  2. Gutless. by jcr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Google should have just told them "you don't want us showing your links? Ok, have it your way", and dropped them into oblivion.

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    1. Re:Gutless. by Frankie70 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Google should have just told them "you don't want us showing your links? Ok, have it your way", and dropped them into oblivion.

      Fact that Google didn't shows that Google needs them more than they need Google.

    2. Re:Gutless. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, I'm surprised that the French are not insulted by the move. Google is not admitting any guilt about "stealing content". Google is saying that French media companies need "development aid", like a Internet Third World country. In other words, Google is not the problem, the French media organizations are, because they have yet to understand this newfangled Internet thingie.

      So I wonder where this money will actually be spent . . . ? First a few big lavish kick-off parties for the heads of the media companies and politicians. Then, fund a few big studies at French research institutes, like INRIA.

      Poof! That 60 € million is gone, and nobody is the wiser.

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  3. Re:Was it just links? by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I get the feeling Google paid this because the revenue from the adverts was more than 60m...not because the newspapers "won" in court.

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  4. Face-saving trifle by ConfusedVorlon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seems to me that the newspapers didn't have a leg to stand on, and Google gave them a face-saving concession to let everyone walk away with their heads held high.

    Google doesn't really care about the $60m, it's a fairly small sum, doesn't set a terrible precedent, and saves them the time and effort of fighting this battle.

    Meanwhile, the government has achieved a concession and can walk away without an embarrassing loss of face.

    Finally, the newspapers can opt out of google news using their robots.txt if they want to (as they always could).

  5. Re:robots.txt by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Crap argument. robots.txt is not about permission to copy and republish, but about permission to crawl and index.

    That is a complete bullshit argument, not surprising to see one from an anonymous coward like yourself with such bad ideas. Who gives a flying fuck who can crawl and index? The argument is over republishing of portions of content, without which search engines cannot function. If your argument is that we should break the internet, it's an exceptionally bad one and not just stupid and wrong as we have already established.

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