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HR Departments Tell Equifax Your Entire Salary History

chiguy writes with this snippet From NBC News: "The Equifax credit reporting agency, with the aid of thousands of human resource departments around the country, has assembled...[a database]...containing 190 million employment and salary records covering more than one-third of U.S. adults...[Equifax] says [it] is adding 12 million records annually.' This salary information is for sale: "Its database is so detailed that it contains week-by-week paystub information dating back years for many individuals, as well as ... health care provider, whether someone has dental insurance and if they've ever filed an unemployment claim.""

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  1. Privacy And Sin by smittyoneeach · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Privacy and sin,
    Like skin on the chin,
    Covered by hair,
    Nicked by tech #FTW
    Burma Shave

    This is an important story, beyond the troll.
    A political party supporting liberty, where that is defined in part as the right to own all data pertaining to yourself, would see a great deal of support.
    And we can expect any of our entrenched parties to support liberty in 3. . .2. . .

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  2. To play devil's advocate... by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Salary information does pertain rather directly to ability to pay off debt.

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    1. Re:To play devil's advocate... by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Having worked with my company's HR dept recently to fix a glitch with printing out payroll info, they are extremely paranoid about preventing other employees from seeing anyone's salary. However, the paranoia seems to be limited to preventing employees from seeing what each other makes rather than preventing any third party from accessing it.

  3. Re:Great! by greg1104 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The minute you can pull data from every offshore bank account.

  4. Re:Inaccuracy is a big problem by godrik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My wife is fixing her credit right now. And she has the same problem. She is even responsible for debt she did not make on the basis that she can not prove that she did not make that debt. Most of the entry are indeed wrongly labeled which is quite scary frankly. That credit report business is complete BS in here. They hold a list of things that you did secret. You can access it but with a ridiculously high fee. And you can not contest anything important.

  5. One More Tool to Fight the Rise in Workers' Pay by Durrik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not being conspiracy nut in this. This is just one more tool that HR departments can use to keep pay low for people applying for work at a company. They always ask for what your current salary is. Before an applicant could lie and tell the HR department a higher number and get offered that higher number. Now they can just check this database and see what the number actually is.

    When I job switched in the past I've never been offered a number higher than what I currently made when I was truthful about my salary, and I screwed myself over. There was a time when I worked for a start-up and my salary was frozen for four years. When that job died I told my new employer what I was making and got offered a bit less since it was a rough job market. The raises I got at that job were less than inflation. The last time I switched I took my salary at the start of the previous job, ran it through the inflation calculator, added 10% and told that number to the new company. That was the number that I was offered, and they gave me some song and dance about it was a privilege about working in the industry when I tried to see if I could get it higher. So I got a 17% raise over my previous company.

    Now with this database that tactic is no longer viable. And if you don't tell them the current number you're making and then check it out, they can mark you as dishonest. Kind of hypocritical if you ask me.

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    1. Re:One More Tool to Fight the Rise in Workers' Pay by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A fine solution if you don't have to eat.

  6. So what? by bradley13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you are a bank considering loaning me money, then I can choose to share my salary information with you. There is no reason at all for this information to be made available without the individual's permission!

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  7. Re:Great! by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    CEOs don't get big pay because of "market forces."

    They get big pay because their buddies sit on their board. These CEOs also sit on THEIR buddies boards. They vote each other big packages. If YOU want a big pay package are you going to vote down a big pay package for one of your buddies?

  8. Re:It's their information if you gave it to them by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It should be if a considerable number of jobs require it.

    Having no food or shelter is not much different than a knife to the neck.

  9. Re:dental insurance ? by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are extremely stupid, I think.

    The reason dental cleanings are covered is because otherwise the insured person would not get them and would cost the insurer more. This is a case where relatively cheap preventative care can completely replace very expensive treatment. Not only that but during this cheap preventative care problems can be discovered while they are still minor and much cheaper to fix.

    If you were offering insurance that covered all work on cars you would of course cover oil changes, rather than pay for blown motors from lack of them.

  10. Rottweiler marketing by bradley13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem in the USA is the absolutely insane marketing. If public information shows that you make a good income and keep your debts under control, you will be bombarded with "pre-approved credit cards", "refinance your home with us", "buy a new car here", "lose all your money in our casino", and other lovely stuff.

    If you live in Europe, you have no idea. When I went back to visit the US for several weeks a couple of years ago, I found the incessant marketing just incredible. The bank tellers trying to sign you up for credit cards. Every phone call to a company begins with a recorded sales pitch. Television shows contain more commercials than content, especially the children's shows. It's just incredible. I suppose you must eventually get numb to it...

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  11. Re:Great! by squizzar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or let's see reality. You have 6 companies A-F, with corresponding CEOs A-F. Each company has a remuneration committee that votes on the compensation for the CEO.

    The remuneration committee for company/CEO A consists of people who happen to be CEOs [B-F]
    The remuneration committee for company/CEO B consists of people who happen to be CEOs [A,C-F]
    The remuneration committee for company/CEO C consists of people who happen to be CEOs [A-B,D-F]
    etc.
    etc.

    Market forces have nothing to do with it (otherwise why would companies that make losses still increase executive compensation? Why would executives who have failed still be getting higher and higher paid jobs?). It's all a big exercise in scratching each others' backs. Even if it's not by design, and even if your pay is decided by people a few steps removed, there's still a circular dependency where it's in no-one's interest to vote down remuneration.

    Even without the direct link above, you still see examples of 'Other companies of size XXX pay YYY for this position so we are going to pay YYY+ZZZ to get the best person'. The people who make these decisions are also in the market for these jobs: It's not in their interest to push the pay down as it would indirectly push down or limit their own pay.