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HR Departments Tell Equifax Your Entire Salary History

chiguy writes with this snippet From NBC News: "The Equifax credit reporting agency, with the aid of thousands of human resource departments around the country, has assembled...[a database]...containing 190 million employment and salary records covering more than one-third of U.S. adults...[Equifax] says [it] is adding 12 million records annually.' This salary information is for sale: "Its database is so detailed that it contains week-by-week paystub information dating back years for many individuals, as well as ... health care provider, whether someone has dental insurance and if they've ever filed an unemployment claim.""

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  1. Privacy And Sin by smittyoneeach · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Privacy and sin,
    Like skin on the chin,
    Covered by hair,
    Nicked by tech #FTW
    Burma Shave

    This is an important story, beyond the troll.
    A political party supporting liberty, where that is defined in part as the right to own all data pertaining to yourself, would see a great deal of support.
    And we can expect any of our entrenched parties to support liberty in 3. . .2. . .

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    1. Re:Privacy And Sin by DarkOx · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't
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      Burma Shave

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    2. Re:Privacy And Sin by RazorSharp · · Score: 5, Informative

      Current? Here's the constitutional amendment Rand proposed: "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of production and trade. . ."

      That means no safety regulations, no minimum wage, no antitrust legislation, no public roads, and no regulations on the financial markets. It means that if I sell you a product that is poisonous and it debilitates you for the rest of your life, you can sue me in civil court and that's the solution to keep things like lead paint off of products (and, of course, if you're too poor to sue me in civil court you're a worthless fuck who deserves lead poisoning; i.e., all low income housing would be painted with lead paint).

      The current version of the libertarian party is the same version of 'libertarianism' that's existed since FDR was in office. It's a negative response to New Deal policies, which largely consisted of various subsidies and restraints on big institutions. While I agree with your post, there's nothing current about this view, and it's not a 'nutbag arm' of the libertarians -- the nutbag shit is what defines one as a libertarian. Libertarians are the opposite extreme as communists but they face the same problem: If only people would stop acting like human beings, their utopian paradises would be possible.

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  2. Great! by HeckRuler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How soon can I browse the salary history of CEO's, Congressmen, the chairmen of the FED, the leaders of Scientology, and the lobbyists on capitol hill?

    1. Re:Great! by greg1104 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The minute you can pull data from every offshore bank account.

    2. Re:Great! by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      CEOs don't get big pay because of "market forces."

      They get big pay because their buddies sit on their board. These CEOs also sit on THEIR buddies boards. They vote each other big packages. If YOU want a big pay package are you going to vote down a big pay package for one of your buddies?

    3. Re:Great! by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/college-athletics-losing-money/

      STOP SPREADING THESE LIES. Sports not only distract from the actual purpose of a University they also cost vasts sums of money and generate little comparable revenue.

    4. Re:Great! by foobsr · · Score: 5, Informative
      Probably a move to Scandinavia would help.

      Quote:"Every year, Sweden publishes everyone's income tax returns. So do Finland and Norway. And nobody really cares." ( http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-06-18-salaries_N.htm )

      Not quite the same, but still.

      CC.

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  3. Inaccuracy is a big problem by Atrox+Canis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    After spending over a year on a mission to get my credit report "fixed", I have a number of anecdotal stories regarding the inherent inaccuracy of the reporting that goes into these databases. My credit reports were not that bad but after a review of the report from the top three agencies, I discovered dozens of factually inaccurate items ranging from wrong addresses to poorly formatted history items. My reports contained input from companies I had never done business with and companies that no longer existed. The problem with this is that if they can't be trusted to confirm the proper spelling of your name, how can they be the "authoritative" source for detailed information regarding your trustworthiness.

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  4. Horribly Unfair by realsilly · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just this week, in the paper, I read that one senator is proposing a bill to allow employees to freely and openly discuss their pay. But here we read that this information is simply handed over to credit agencies. These credit agencies can then basically sell your information to Credit Card companies, Banks and more.

    So it really begs the question, why am I not allowed to openly discuss my salary information but HR can hand it out to a Credit agency where from there it can be sold to half the corporations in America?

    Our government really does not care about it's citizens any longer, only which corporations donate the most to their campaigns. /sigh

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  5. One More Tool to Fight the Rise in Workers' Pay by Durrik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not being conspiracy nut in this. This is just one more tool that HR departments can use to keep pay low for people applying for work at a company. They always ask for what your current salary is. Before an applicant could lie and tell the HR department a higher number and get offered that higher number. Now they can just check this database and see what the number actually is.

    When I job switched in the past I've never been offered a number higher than what I currently made when I was truthful about my salary, and I screwed myself over. There was a time when I worked for a start-up and my salary was frozen for four years. When that job died I told my new employer what I was making and got offered a bit less since it was a rough job market. The raises I got at that job were less than inflation. The last time I switched I took my salary at the start of the previous job, ran it through the inflation calculator, added 10% and told that number to the new company. That was the number that I was offered, and they gave me some song and dance about it was a privilege about working in the industry when I tried to see if I could get it higher. So I got a 17% raise over my previous company.

    Now with this database that tactic is no longer viable. And if you don't tell them the current number you're making and then check it out, they can mark you as dishonest. Kind of hypocritical if you ask me.

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    1. Re:One More Tool to Fight the Rise in Workers' Pay by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A fine solution if you don't have to eat.

  6. Re:To play devil's advocate... by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Having worked with my company's HR dept recently to fix a glitch with printing out payroll info, they are extremely paranoid about preventing other employees from seeing anyone's salary. However, the paranoia seems to be limited to preventing employees from seeing what each other makes rather than preventing any third party from accessing it.

  7. Freeze Your Credit File by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Informative

    When my identity was stolen (credit card opened in my name by someone with my name/address/SSN/DOB), I froze my credit and my wife's credit. This means that nobody can read our credit files or add to it without our permission. If we want to get a car loan, refinance my mortgage, or open a new credit card, we need to thaw out our credit files. (This costs us $5 per person per agency - of which there are 3 - but this fee varies by state.) If a potential employer wants to run a credit check on me, they'll need to ask for my permission before they can see my credit file.

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  8. his adventures would be hilarious by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Randian Nutbag" would be an awesome superhero name.

    Too bad he won't help anybody.

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  9. Equifax gave out my email address by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wanted to mention something very relevant about Equifax. I took advantage of a "get your credit score" free offer several years ago that was posted on Slick Deals. It involved giving Equifax a little data on myself, including an email address that they sent the final credit score report to. I've long used the Spamgourmet forwarding service, so I created and used a unique email address for this purpose. Never gave it to anyone else. It even includes Equifax as part of the name, as well as a "watch word" that was only active for a month when the Equifax account was created. Later I started getting LOTS of spam from Chinese sources to that email address. I don't think it was intercepted, as Equifax hadn't sent me any more mail for quite a while. No one got into my system and none of my other accounts started getting spammed, only the Equifax account.

    So, as I see it that leaves three possible causes: Equifax sold my email address to spammers, an employee at Equifax stole data and sold it, or Equifax is so insecure with this very important personal data that they were hacked by the spammers. None of these possibilities speaks well for Equifax.

    As of today, 264 pieces of mail have been sent to that account, including the one or two legitimate ones. That particular account was quickly shut down without compromising my read email address, but I've always wondered what information the hackers got on me.

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    1. Re:Equifax gave out my email address by Zeromous · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is why he mentioned, (and I also use) a keyword.

      For instance, the difference between a mailspammer and a direct marketer is this.

      In emails sent to zeromous@slashdot.org (an unlikely email address but spammed all the same as you describe)

      mailspammer will say, "hello zeromous, Here is a special deal"

      direct marketer will have gotten my address from equifax, where I was sure to sign up as Dr. Unicorn McBojangles

      direct marketer will say, "hello Dr. Unicorn McBojangles, we have a special and unique opportunity for people with good credit!"

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