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IE Patch To Fix 57 Vulnerabilities

Billly Gates writes "Microsoft is advising users to stick with other browsers until Tuesday, when 57 patches for Internet Explorer 6, 7, 8, 9, and even 10 are scheduled. There is no word if this patch is to protect IE from the 50+ Java exploits that were patched last week or the new Adobe Flash vulnerabilities. Microsoft has more information here. In semi-related news, IE 10 is almost done for Windows 7 and has a IE10 blocker available for corporations. No word on whether IE 10 will be included as part of the 57 updates."

91 comments

  1. Why would the Java exploits be related? by thue · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IE10 bundles Flash, so I guess the flash bugfixes can be related.

    But IE does not bundle Java - why would the IE bugfixes be related to the Java bugfixes?

    1. Re:Why would the Java exploits be related? by kthreadd · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Why would the Java exploits be related? by colfer · · Score: 1

      The Mozilla plugin check tool can be used in any browser, and reports Flash on IE10 on Win8 is still "outdated": https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/
      But the tool can be inaccurate for some browsers. At this time it does show Flash on Chrome as up-to-date. Chrome also bundles its own Flash. Firefox shows as OK too, after you update. If you try to update Flash in IE10 you get a notice that Flash is bundled, but it also says you can install it if you really want to.

    3. Re:Why would the Java exploits be related? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please die.

    4. Re:Why would the Java exploits be related? by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      I doubt seriously they have anything to do with Java, its just some name dropping to make TFA more "trendy".

      But THIS is why I don't recommend IE and in fact go out of the way to make sure my customers have IE alternatives installed. IE could be the greatest browser on the planet but because its the browser of the clueless it has a 50 foot bullseye painted right in the middle of its too juicy a target.

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  2. IE 6? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Stop supporting that Microsoft! Stop it now!

    1. Re:IE 6? by sbditto85 · · Score: 1

      Why is this down voted?!? as a web developer I wish IE 6 would disappear into a deep dark recess and never come out! For the site I develop we stopped supporting it ages ago and instead post a banner that basically says "HEY! STOP IT! Upgrade or get a different browser you ninnys" ... something like that if I remember right.

    2. Re:IE 6? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Why is this down voted?!? as a web developer I wish IE 6 would disappear into a deep dark recess and never come out! For the site I develop we stopped supporting it ages ago and instead post a banner that basically says "HEY! STOP IT! Upgrade or get a different browser you ninnys" ... something like that if I remember right.

      It pretty much has. Not even microsoft's website works properly in it anymore and if MS abandons it you can consider it effectively dead for all but specialized internal apps.

      With VMWare and Citrix as well as WIndows Server 2003 you can virtualize and run your crappy app inside a modern browser. There is no good business case to use it on a desktop anymore as it is in the realms of legacy x3270 terminal programs now. May it RIP.

      That is why it is modded down.The last place I seen it used was in 2011 on a desktop. IE 8 on the otherhand will be the next big challenge as corps use only that version because it is a stopover between XP and WIndows 7 and yuo can prey IE 8 off their cold dead heands.

  3. Seriusly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Microsoft is advising users to stick with other browsers until Tuesday"

    Ok everybody! go and install Firefox or Chrome!

    1. Re:Seriusly? by jones_supa · · Score: 5, Informative

      There seems to be a mistake in the summary. The ZDNet article says "With this in mind, users are advised to switch to another browser for the next few days until the updates are released." That seems like ZD's own recommendation, I couldn't find that from the MS security bulletins.

    2. Re:Seriusly? by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      I was surprised at reading that in TF(UBAR)S as well; the only reason I can imagine for MS saying that is if they were planning to drop IE altogether... somewhat unlikely.

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    3. Re:Seriusly? by Snowhare · · Score: 1

      I think MS may have revised the tech note after ZDNet wrote their story. It was offline for a little while after the story came out, and then came back again.

    4. Re:Seriusly? by LVSlushdat · · Score: 1

      I advise all my clients who are *still* on windows to stay the hell away from IE period.. Firefox/Chrome/Opera are FAR superior to the "swiss-cheese" security environment of MS's turd browser.. So that I'm not *completely* negative, they have come a long ways with what I've seen of IE10, but they make up for that win with the abortion they call Unity/Windows 8.. I'm sure Metro is just fine on a tablet, but on a desktop with keyboard/mouse??? They HAD to be smoking some serious shit...

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    5. Re:Seriusly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By clients do you mean parents and classmates?

    6. Re:Seriusly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck managing settings of either Chrome or Firefox for 3rd party web applications via Group Policy... OH WAIT. Manage updates? Nope... Manage settings, safe sites, custom zones etc as required by applications? Nope.

      Good luck integrating with Sharepoint... OH WAIT.

      You're in a fantasy land.

    7. Re:Seriusly? by smash · · Score: 1

      Firefox, Chrome and Opera have their own issues. Firefox has issues with multiple levels of proxy chaining in certain environments. IE security can be managed via filtering proxies, security zones, UAC, etc. Incompatibility between other browser and business apps often can not.

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    8. Re:Seriusly? by smash · · Score: 1

      This. People running IE don't WANT to be running IE. Managing the security problems is just a lot easier than replacing apps that break, dealing with no central policy management or update management, etc.

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  4. Microsoft is advising users to stick with other.. by ark1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    browsers. Where did you got this information? MS bulletin does not state that and I doubt MS would ever make such recommendation no matter how serious the bug was.

  5. Someone got on their case by eksith · · Score: 5, Informative

    The fact that IE6 is being patched means someone dropped a NS bomb on them (National Security) which is a sure fire way to motivate companies to keep their software secure. I know it's not the favorite company here, but they fought (sometimes dirty) to get where they are. They made it and have to deal with the "now what?" phase. Software monocultures suck no matter who's culture it is.

    What I found really interesting is that bulletins 7-9 and 11 are for escalation of privilege whereas the rest are for remote code execution. Which means, it may not have helped much to be logged in as an unprivileged user anyway.

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    1. Re:Someone got on their case by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Software monocultures suck no matter who's culture it is.

      You mean whose. Hope this helps

    2. Re:Someone got on their case by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      I saw that. I thought, "Hey, I could be a grammar nazi here." Then, I thought, "Yeah, but why be a douche?" Then, I found your post. So, yeah . . . whatever . . .

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    3. Re:Someone got on their case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot is so full of confirmation bias it's disgusting. I think it's actually worse than it was 12 years ago.

      Maybe they are patching IE6 because they've publicly announced and published that they'll support IE6 until April 2014?
      or... we get +5 informative because hey, Microsoft = Evil Company never does good things without motivation from the government.

    4. Re:Someone got on their case by eksith · · Score: 2

      I don't know about confirmation bias, but I've hidden scores so I can focus more on the crux of the message vs. catering to some perceived acceptance. You should try it too so you won't be needlessly aggravated over a number in a database.

      And the IE6 support until 2014 makes my argument still valid I.E. A large percentage still uses it, which makes every vulnerable user potentially drafted into a bot army. And botnets, last I checked, are still considered a threat to NS.

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    5. Re:Someone got on their case by Ralish · · Score: 4, Informative

      The fact that IE6 is being patched means someone dropped a NS bomb on them (National Security)...

      It's being patched because IE6 shipped with Windows XP and MS guarantees they will support the version of IE that was shipped with a given release of Windows for the support lifetime of that Windows release. Windows XP is supported into 2014, so Internet Explorer 6 on Windows XP is as well. This is not a secret.

    6. Re:Someone got on their case by smash · · Score: 1

      In other words, blame all the "you'll prise XP from my cold dead hands" blow-hards.

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    7. Re:Someone got on their case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use XP because it would cost more to rebuild my applications after moving to Win7 than to buy a new machine. Plus if I would buy, I would incur costs to set up my new machine with all of my applications.

    8. Re:Someone got on their case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is also the only reason Internet Explorer 7 is still being supported, because it shipped with Windows Vista.

      IE8 also for that matter, which shipped with Windows 7. It'll probably be supported longer than IE9 will (which had no corresponding Windows release).

  6. Excellent summary! by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...57 patches for Internet Explorer 6, 7, 8, 9, and even 10 are scheduled.
    and
    No word on whether IE 10 will be included as part of the 57 updates.

    Did you even read what you wrote?

    1. Re:Excellent summary! by rjr162 · · Score: 2

      Re-read.. part of the updates are patches, including patches for IE 10, BUT its not known if one of the updates is the actual upgrade to IE 10 its self... was that so hard to understand? (I realize it could have been worded it a bit better, but it's still not hard to figure out)

    2. Re:Excellent summary! by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I wonder if you did not read it.

      IE 10 is almost done for Windows 7 and has a IE10 blocker available for corporations. No word on whether IE 10 will be included as part of the 57 updates.

      It's talking about IE 10 being released for Windows 7.

    3. Re:Excellent summary! by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      I get it. But as you say, it could have been worded a bit better.

    4. Re:Excellent summary! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clearly you didn't since you badly misquoted the summary.

  7. Re:Microsoft is advising users to stick with other by djmurdoch · · Score: 4, Informative

    The submitter got it by misreading the ZDnet article. It was the author of that article (Zack Whittaker) who made the recommendation, not MS.

  8. ZDNet = Garbage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    They are 12 vulnerabilities and 57 patches across all their operating systems. 2 are critical.

    1. Re:ZDNet = Garbage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes but 57 sounds bad so of course that's what ZDNet will try and hype and most of /. will play right along.

  9. something's not right here.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    microsoft is NOT the ones suggesting people use a different browser, it's zdnet in its article.. you know, one of the tech sites run by the same clueless fucktards that banned the hopper from ces and sodastream from the superbowl.

  10. "stick with other browsers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes sir, Mr. Ballmer, I will stay away from all versions of your pathetically flawed browser.

    Ever since you let in tons of malware that chewed up my PC causing me to lose a lot of stuff and to do a total reinstall, I have been using Firefox. Not being able to actually uninstall your POS, I at least deleted or hid all its icons so my kids wouldn't use it. We've been problem-free ever since.

    1. Re:"stick with other browsers" by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      You can't exactly "uninstall" the browser, but you can remove it from the installation media, thereby preventing it's installation. But, you knew that, right?

      http://www.nliteos.com/

      It's been years since I used this, but it worked great back then!

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    2. Re:"stick with other browsers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And now you can't use Windows update.
      nLite is only for Windows XP/2003.

    3. Re:"stick with other browsers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They tell me that automatic update will still work.

  11. Re: Microsoft is advising users to stick with othe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "The submitter got it by misreading the ZDnet article. It was the author of that article (Zack Whittaker) who made the recommendation, not MS."

    Just as well timothy picked it up in editing. Oh, wait...

  12. Re: Microsoft is advising users to stick with othe by tgd · · Score: 0

    "The submitter got it by misreading the ZDnet article. It was the author of that article (Zack Whittaker) who made the recommendation, not MS."

    Just as well timothy picked it up in editing. Oh, wait...

    Its a Microsoft story -- what is Slashdot going to pick? A summary of an article that communicates the total non-news of a Patch Tuesday, or a hyped-up Anti-Microsoft article that excites their target audience into high levels of self-congratulatory mental masturbation?

  13. Microsoft Dynamics is a POS by tepples · · Score: 1

    Not being able to actually uninstall your POS

    Even Microsoft admits that its software is a POS.

    But seriously, I've rescued several failed Windows PCs by replacing the OS with Ubuntu. Retraining casual users from Windows to Xubuntu isn't as hard as some people claim.

    1. Re:Microsoft Dynamics is a POS by s7uar7 · · Score: 2

      "Hey tepples, I've just bought an iPhone but can't get iTunes to install on that PC of mine that you fixed. Could you come round and take a look please? I'm also having problems getting Netflix to work; could you take a look at that too, please? "

    2. Re:Microsoft Dynamics is a POS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Flash videos also play erratically. What is this hardware acceleration thing you are talking about?"

    3. Re:Microsoft Dynamics is a POS by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      But seriously, I've rescued several failed Windows PCs by replacing the OS with Ubuntu. Retraining casual users from Windows to Xubuntu isn't as hard as some people claim.

      I still don't like the idea of shoving Linux down the throats of clueless people when their PC breaks. What if they need to use Office, play some random game, use a new piece of hardware, or if the system upgrade leaves the computer in an unbootable state. They will be less likely to get fucked under Windows in such cases.

    4. Re:Microsoft Dynamics is a POS by gQuigs · · Score: 1

      Yea.. I tell them what the pros and cons are before I give them a PC (with Ubuntu or Windows). Do iPhones really still need software installed on the PC? I thought they finally got better than that?

      For Netflix I would say: there is currently a way to play Netflix but it is not supported by Netflix officially and I wouldn't depend on it as your only way to play Netflix.

      http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/how-to-use-netflix-on-ubuntu

    5. Re:Microsoft Dynamics is a POS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never heard of Microsoft Dynamics I didn't know that they make Point of Sale system. (P.O.S. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_of_sale )

      bye

    6. Re:Microsoft Dynamics is a POS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still don't like the idea of shoving Linux down the throats of clueless people when their PC breaks.

      While M$ forces digital restrictions management and numerous security bugs on their users. By offering GNU/Linux to the clueless people they will be free from the confines of M$.

      What if they need to use Office

      There is Libreoffice 4.0 which will work with any format M$ has.

      play some random game,

      There are plenty of free games for GNU/Linux, they just need to expand their taste to include such games.

      use a new piece of hardware,

      Then find the hardware that has drivers for GNU/Linux. It isn't that hard to find.

      or if the system upgrade leaves the computer in an unbootable state.

      You are getting Ubuntu and Windows mixed up with the more Libre distributions of GNU/Linux. They don't have such problems but if there is a problem many distributions already have a system restore built into the live cd/dvd.

      They will be less likely to get fucked under Windows in such cases.

      When someone installs Windows they are already screwed with all of the malware that infects Windows daily. M$ does not care about security or quality, which is why M$ has done whatever they can to keep their illegal monopoly.

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  14. Re: Microsoft is advising users to stick with othe by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

    "excites their target audience into high levels of self-congratulatory mental masturbation?"

    Mental? Why would you throw such an extraneous word into that statement?

    'Scuse me, I gotta get strokin'!

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  15. Re: Microsoft is advising users to stick with othe by tgd · · Score: 1

    "excites their target audience into high levels of self-congratulatory mental masturbation?"

    Mental? Why would you throw such an extraneous word into that statement?

    'Scuse me, I gotta get strokin'!

    Well, I'm assuming its hard to franticly reply on Slashdot in one window, and surf 4chan in another, with one hand occupied.

  16. exciting by hraponssi · · Score: 2

    First Oracle releases patches for 50 Java vulnerabilities, now Microsoft does better with 57 for IE. Who will be the first to go over 60 in the competition?

    In any case, it seems we are doomed as far as security on the Internet goes. Kinda depressing.

    1. Re:exciting by jones_supa · · Score: 2

      Who knows, maybe they are just paying attention to security and actually fixing their shit.

    2. Re:exciting by bruce_the_loon · · Score: 1

      He's obviously got 107 zero-day attack vectors all lined up for a Valentine's Day massacre and Oracle patched away most of them and MS is gonna kill the rest come Tuesday.

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  17. Re: Microsoft is advising users to stick with othe by fibonacci8 · · Score: 1

    Do not tempt Rule 34.

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  18. Internet Explorer 6? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i didn't realize that Microsoft still supports Internet Explorer 6. Just saying. I tried browsing some websites with IE6 for fun, but IE kept crashing and locking up.

    1. Re:Internet Explorer 6? by Osgeld · · Score: 2

      so it still performs just as well as when it was released?

    2. Re:Internet Explorer 6? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      You are wrong Osgeld. You need to see IE in action.

  19. Such a user can re-buy Windows by tepples · · Score: 1

    What if they need to use Office, play some random game, use a new piece of hardware

    Such a user can buy a copy of Windows to replace the copy on the restore disc or restore partition that he admits having lost. When deciding whether to install Windows or Xubuntu for a family member, I make sure to ask what applications the user most commonly uses, and then I weigh that against whether or not the user has the install media and certificate of authenticity for a supported Windows operating system handy. And by "supported" I mean both whether or not the operating system is compatible with the hardware and how long until the announced end of life. For example, I'd consider Windows XP unsupported because security updates will end in 14 months.

    or if the system upgrade leaves the computer in an unbootable state

    How is this less likely to happen in an upgrade from Windows XP to Windows Vista, from Windows Vista to Windows 7, or from Windows 7 to Windows 8, than in an upgrade from (say) Ubuntu 10.04 to Ubuntu 12.04?

    1. Re:Such a user can re-buy Windows by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Such a user can buy a copy of Windows to replace the copy on the restore disc or restore partition that he admits having lost. When deciding whether to install Windows or Xubuntu for a family member, I make sure to ask what applications the user most commonly uses, and then I weigh that against whether or not the user has the install media and certificate of authenticity for a supported Windows operating system handy. And by "supported" I mean both whether or not the operating system is compatible with the hardware and how long until the announced end of life. For example, I'd consider Windows XP unsupported because security updates will end in 14 months.

      Just install Windows 7 from a Digital River image and use Daz Loader. Illegal but practical. Ethically this should be fine as the user most likely paid the Windows tax when he bought the computer.

      or if the system upgrade leaves the computer in an unbootable state

      How is this less likely to happen in an upgrade from Windows XP to Windows Vista, from Windows Vista to Windows 7, or from Windows 7 to Windows 8, than in an upgrade from (say) Ubuntu 10.04 to Ubuntu 12.04?

      I meant applying the everyday updates, not a major version upgrade.

    2. Re:Such a user can re-buy Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever actually performed a larger update of Ubuntu? The failure rate is ridiculously high, and its an Ubuntu specific problem. (Other Linux distros do not have htis problem - nor is Windows anywhere near as prone to blow up while doing the same thing)

    3. Re:Such a user can re-buy Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just an anecdote, but the only PC I have in my house that bricktaculously fails during regular updates is my win 7 laptop. Had to disable update checking entirely to make it useable. I also get bsod occasionally, and swapping the drive for my crunchbang ssd works flawlessly.

    4. Re:Such a user can re-buy Windows by tepples · · Score: 2

      Have you ever actually performed a larger update of Ubuntu?

      You mean like 9.10 to 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04 on my laptop, or 8.04 to 10.04 on my web development workstation at work? Those went fairly smoothly, with a few (solvable) hardware-related issues that were not much bigger than the typical issues after a major Service Pack on Windows.

    5. Re:Such a user can re-buy Windows by tepples · · Score: 1

      I meant applying the everyday updates, not a major version upgrade.

      I've never had (the GUI equivalent of sudo sh -c 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; reboot' cause boot failure in over four years.

    6. Re:Such a user can re-buy Windows by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Ok, maybe it actually isn't that bad than what I thought.

    7. Re:Such a user can re-buy Windows by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      I never bothered going from version to version since way back when they said the best approach was a wipe and reinstall.

      I can say this though: Ubuntu's attitude as of Precises still seems to be "Fuck you if you're going from LTS to LTS."

  20. Editorial standards are for lamers by Ralish · · Score: 4, Informative

    At least, I assume that is the prevailing attitude on Slashdot these days? Let's see:

    IE Patch to Fix 57 Vulnerabilities
    No, as per the linked Security Bulletin Advance Notification a total of 57 vulnerabilities are being fixed across Windows, Internet Explorer, Office & the .NET Framework. There are not 57 vulnerabilities exclusively in Internet Explorer as the title suggests. We can likely further expect certain vulnerabilities to only be applicable to certain versions of Internet Explorer once the full details are available.

    Microsoft is advising users to stick with other browsers until Tuesday
    Source?

    ...when 57 patches for Internet Explorer 6, 7, 8, 9, and even 10 are scheduled.
    No, as noted above, the vulnerabilities are across a variety of products. Further, 13 "patches" (aka. updates or bulletins if you prefer) are being released as multiple vulnerabilities are often patched in a single update. As per the linked bulletin, there are two bulletin's being released for Internet Explorer, which would typically result in two updates for Internet Explorer for a given Windows installation. Of course, there'll be many different updates released for different versions of IE and architectures (ie. 32-bit/64-bit/etc...) but a given Windows installation shouldn't have more than two applicable to it.

    No word on whether IE 10 will be included as part of the 57 updates.
    Apart from the explicit reference to Internet Explorer 10 being affected by at least some of these vulnerabilities in the linked MS Advance Notification? Have you tried reading the very articles you post? I'm reliably informed it helps comprehension.

    Are the editors trying to set a new record for inaccuracies within a small paragraph of text?

    1. Re:Editorial standards are for lamers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It really baffles me why so many Windows users still stick with IE ,whereas Firefox and Google-Chrome work so well with all OSes.

      Frank in northern Scotland (a Linux only user)

  21. We don't need no stinking... by Chordonblue · · Score: 1

    Patches, you say? What about SP2 for Win 7? Other than making us move to Win 8, is there a good reason why I should have to d/l 250+ MB on a clean install? A roll up for .NET 4 would be in order as well...

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    1. Re:We don't need no stinking... by aa_trna_syn · · Score: 1

      Definitely. Would be even better after this next Patch Tuesday. Don't see it happening, though.

  22. what? by fazey · · Score: 0

    What? Who still uses IE? Not I!

  23. Microsoft advising what? by gtirloni · · Score: 1

    "Microsoft is advising users to stick with other browsers until Tuesday"

    I see.

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  24. Microsoft reminds me of the food company Heinz now by acid_andy · · Score: 1

    57 Varieties - of vulnerability!

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  25. Well, that's good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should make my downloading of Firefox or Chrome a lot safer.

  26. Re:Microsoft reminds me of the food company Heinz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course! It was time for them to ketchup to everybody else.

  27. Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know of a multi-billion dollar corporation who are currently in the process of transitioning to Google Apps. They are of course open to using other Google products such as Chrome and other non-MS software. This corporation does massive R&D and needs to safeguard their knowledge and data. Apparently Google convinced them their data is safe with them.

    Another major corporation with more than 20000 seats have already moved to Google Apps.

    Which is kind of reasonable if you compare Google's security and general software engineering competence with that of the average 50-billion-dollar-revenue corporation. Most of the latter have some sort of security operations, but these are generally understaffed, underpaid and overworked. Corners are cut all the time and people are bogged down by crazy one-size-fits-all corporate policies.

    Tough times ahead for the shitlobbers of Redmond. How will they spin this ??

  28. IE Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone use IE? Seriously

  29. Nice List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/customers/

  30. Yeah ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You will be too confused outside the Microsoft Jail, after having spent half of your life Locked In. So, for your own best, please stay in position for Metal Rod 9.0 which they currently polish in the Advanced Shafting Labs in Redmond. Soon you will feel a big fat piece of metal being shoved up your ass and after the pain has lessened you will have the normal User Experience.

  31. Muharrr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So the Crapware Developers have added some more knobs to IE instead of focusing on doing it right ? An extra airbag instead of fixing the bugs in the breaking system ? Excooolent indeed.

    And I see M$ shills now use a gmail address for window dressing.

  32. Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you little rodents of Redmond would not have been as nasty in the past, you would not have so many enemies. There would be more goodwill. But as you cannot think of "competition", "coexistence" and "good citizenship", the rest of the world have decided this is a mortal battle and we have to comprehensively destroy you. If we didn't, you would destroy us.

    So, die with honor or just die. We don't care about you lowlifes and your crapware.

  33. Why ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because he does not subscribe to the Redmond Propaganda Belief System ? (Such as "only M$ knows how to do office software correctly. Everybody else are wicked apostates who will deny opportunities to your precious little child")

  34. And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My business partner in China complains I am no longer sharing my entire file system with him. He say it is so inconvenient for him to ask for my permission to read my private emails, photos and latest CAD files. He says that "Ubuntu is a major problem for China's economic development". What should I make out of this ? Up to now my Chinese partners could always read my mind. It was so convenient !!!

  35. LMAO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are seriously suggesting Windows users will be less "fucked" than Linux users ? After a few weeks Windows machines in the hands of non-experts will contract malware, spyware, adware and other malicious crap. Often the malicious stuff will fight each other for dominance on the machine.

    Linux machines (Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, whatever) will auto-patch themselves and generally run like a clockwork if all drivers are available. Which is nowadays the case for 99,9% of machines in the wild. There are simply NO viruses. No need to run virus-scanners which will consume resources and slow down everything.

    Linux application installation and updating is a breeze, as Central Repositories exist for something like ten years now, while M$ just introduces their "app store". Windows is currently a mess of bloated and non-standard updaters, one per application.

    So, your post is just that - classic Microsoft propaganda which massages facts until they appear to suggest the opposite of what reality is. Linux is install once, run forever while Windows is a Permanent Nightmare.

  36. So What ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Going from LTS x to LTS y is like going from XP to Win 7.

    On Ubuntu, you simply save your home directory on an external drive. Then you boot from the new LTS installer CD and overwrite everything. You go to the central package manager, check all software you need in the graphical user interface and have it installed without any more keypresses or mouseclicks.
    Then you restore your private files into your fresh home directory. All of that takes about one hour, as you do NOT have to run 17 separate installer programs as you need to do with Windows. No activation, no stupid reboots except for one.

    1. Re:So What ? by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      All of which is absolutely useless if you consider that the most common use case for LTS is for servers, and "wipe and reinstall" means a lot more downtime than would be necessary if the upgrade process wasn't utterly braindead.