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Cellphone Privacy In Canada: Encryption Triggers Need For Warrant

codegen writes "The Ontario Court of Appeal has just ruled that the police can search your cellphone if you are arrested without a warrant if it is not password protected. But the ruling also stated that if it is password protected, then the police need a warrant. Previous to this case there was no decision on if the police could search your phone without a warrant in Canada."

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  1. Spread em' by Jeslijar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This seems directly equivalent to "If your front door is unlocked the police can come in and snoop around without a warrant"

    You could say the same thing with several other things like...

    "if your car is unlocked they can rummage through it legally without a warrant"

    and

    "If your fly is down, they can do a cavity search legally without a warrant"

    1. Re:Spread em' by nebular · · Score: 2

      The difference between this situation and your house or car is that the house or car is not being arrested and you don't have them on your person when you are arrested (I'd love to meet someone who can fit a car in their pocket). If you are arrested the police can go through your pockets and search your person. If you have a wallet or datebook, they'll be going through that too. The cell phone is the modern equivalent to those. If you don't put a lock on it and leave it in your pocket it's fair game like anything else.

    2. Re:Spread em' by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

      1. Home owner takes trash to curb.
      2. SWAT team swoops into unlocked door.
      3. Ha! The mattress tags have been removed! Another victory for law enforcement!

    3. Re:Spread em' by c · · Score: 4, Insightful

      3. Ha! The mattress tags have been removed! Another victory for law enforcement!

      I was going to point out that it's perfectly legal for the consumer to remove the tags from their own mattresses.

      But it occurs to me that the validity of the charge doesn't really matter that much after said consumer has been punched, tasered, kicked, cuffed, slammed into the police car, cavity searched, held in a jail cell with the finest local thugs, and charged with resisting arrest and removing mattress tags.

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    4. Re:Spread em' by ark1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So if I put locks on my pockets, Police won't be allowed to search them?

    5. Re:Spread em' by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You forgot killed because the swat team went to the wrong house yet again.

  2. Works for me by nebular · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Makes sense to me. If I were to be arrested without a warrant, the police can go through all the pockets of my wallet and look at every card and piece of paper I have in there, however if I were to have a lock on my wallet, they would need a warrant to open it. The modern cell phone is very much the same as the wallet and datebook of the past. If it's not locked, they can go through it.

    1. Re:Works for me by RobinH · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not quite the same. Your wallet doesn't contain a log of all electronic communications you've had with other people. Remember, they're searching through the communication histories of *those* people too. That means even if you lock your own cell phone, the police can get access to communications you've had by searching other people's unlocked phones. I'm not saying that's wrong, exactly, but it's different from a wallet.

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    2. Re:Works for me by Overzeetop · · Score: 2

      Nope - if you are arrested while carrying your house then they may search it. Unless, of course, it is locked - in which case they have to get a warrant.

      See, it still doesn't make sense as an analogy.

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    3. Re:Works for me by nebular · · Score: 2

      I"m not a lawyer, but I was trained on the rules for warrants and searches for Canadian police. So my non legal view would be that yes the single line unlock would be sufficient so long as there are other possible options that could be entered and be incorrect. Like making the combination on your luggage 000. If it's locked the police can't ask you for the password, or try and guess the password without a warrant, no matter how simple it is.

  3. Room within a room. by concealment · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A real world analogy: encryption is like a room within a room.

    If you were to enter a residence, and find it divided into apartments, you'd probably have to get a warrant for each locked, separately numbered door.

    The real question is whether one individual can have multiple rooms within a room. If your phone and computer are encrypted, do they need a warrant for each?

  4. Re:Huh? by z4nsh1n · · Score: 5, Informative

    The ninth circuit is not the supreme court. In fact, the supreme court overturned the ninth circuit's ruling: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/01/supreme-court-holds-warrantless-gps-tracking-unconstitutional/

  5. Re:Title misleading? by dimeglio · · Score: 2

    There's a difference between a lock (password) and a door knob (the slide to unlock/face to unlock). Also, aren't most phone's contents encrypted? I believe the iPhone is.

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  6. DMCA by RichMan · · Score: 2

    My phone is protected by an electronic protection device. You have to push the "ON" button to enable interaction.
    Breaking that top-secret process violates the DMCA and means you are breaking the encryption and security apparatus on the phone.

    Thanks DMCA for not definining minimum secutiry levels.

  7. Re:Title misleading? by codegen · · Score: 2

    Wasn't my title. My title was password protection. It was changed by slashdot editors.

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  8. Re:ugh by realityimpaired · · Score: 2

    You should have a password on your phone anyway... if it grows legs and walks off in a coffee shop, then the password will probably protect it (at least to the point that they won't bother taking your data from the phone and would simply factory reset it and be done with it). The fuzz snooping in your phone is far from the only reason to put a password on it, and, I would hope, is probably the least likely to be snooping in your phone by a very wide margin.

  9. Re:ugh by J'raxis · · Score: 2

    The actual article says password. The Slashdot summary, incorrectly, says encrypted.

    That said, you shouldn't just rely on a password, but also encrypt your data. If you only have a password set, if the police get a warrant, they probably have forensics software that can simply bypass your phone's login program. (Just like how if a thief has a boot CD, that Windows login password of yours isn't going to protect your data.) However, if you encrypt your data, decrypting it without you giving up your encryption key is beyond the means of most police departments---meaning you have a choice as to whether or not you wish to comply. You get to choose whether or not what you're protecting is worth a "contempt of court"or "obstruction" charge or whatever.

  10. Re:ugh by xombo · · Score: 2

    On (Canadian) BlackBerries turning on encryption is synonymous with creating a password to use the phone.

  11. Re:Warrant will be issued presently. by J'raxis · · Score: 2

    So you encrypt your devices with strong encryption and a good passphrase, not just password-protect them. Now it's still up to you if you wish to either divulge the passphrase or face something like a "contempt of court" charge. Depending on what information one is trying to secure, one might choose the latter.

  12. Re:Huh? by CheetoNards · · Score: 2

    I think he was confusing the court system with the nine levels of hell.