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For Sale: One Nobel Prize Medal (Slightly Used, By Francis Crick)

Hugh Pickens writes "UPI reports that for the first time in the history of Nobel Prize, one of the Nobel Prize medals, along with the diploma presented by the Nobel committee, is on auction — with an opening bid of $250,000. Awarded to Francis Crick, who along with James Watson and Maurice Wilkins won the Nobel Prize for medicine in 1962 'for their discoveries concerning the molecular structure of nucleic acids and its significance for information transfer in living material,' the medal will be auctioned off in New York City, by Heritage Auctions. The medal has been kept in a safe deposit box in California since Crick's widow passed away in 2007 and a portion of the proceeds will go to the Francis Crick Institute of disease research scheduled to open in London in 2015. '"By auctioning his Nobel it will finally be made available for public display and be well looked after. Our hope is that, by having it available for display, it can be an inspiration to the next generation of scientists," says Crick's granddaughter, Kindra Crick. "My granddad was honored to have received the Nobel Prize, but he was not the type to display his awards; his office walls contained a large chalkboard, artwork and a portrait of Charles Darwin."'"

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  1. Portion of the proceeds? by AuralityKev · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I see things like these, especially with grandkids as the spokespeople, it just makes me think it's a cash grab. It's not due to any "inspirational" mojo behind hanging it up somewhere. If that were the case, they should just donate it outright, and maybe have people pay a couple bucks a gander, and toss that to the Francis Crick Institute. Not "a portion" of the proceeds, which could be $10 on a potential windfall.

    1. Re:Portion of the proceeds? by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

      Portions can be represented as fractions, and 0/0 is a fraction, right?

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    2. Re:Portion of the proceeds? by ledow · · Score: 5, Informative

      To be honest, Crick was a bit of a git anyway (and Watson wasn't exactly what you might call a gentleman). They basically stole someone else's unpublished scientific work to confirm their own data (mainly, it has to be said, because she was only a woman) and without which they'd have ended up with entirely the wrong model. They were loathe to credit her, even after her death, even though others did.

      Not saying they *didn't* do a lot of the work, but without her observations, comments, and years of working on data, they'd have been lost for quite a while longer than they were.

    3. Re:Portion of the proceeds? by CannonballHead · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or FILE_NOT_FOUND.

    4. Re:Portion of the proceeds? by Graydyn+Young · · Score: 5, Informative

      For those wondering who this post is referring to, that would be Rosalind Franklin.

    5. Re:Portion of the proceeds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      A fraction involves two integers.

      True.

      0 is an integer

      True.

      so 0/0 is a fraction.

      False.
      The denominator of a fraction must be nonzero. A fraction is a number. N/0 is never a number, regardless of the value of N.

    6. Re:Portion of the proceeds? by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Indeed. It's pretty low to get all worked up about Watson & Crick's asshattery... and then not mention the individual involved.

    7. Re:Portion of the proceeds? by PTBarnum · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This claim is, at best, controversial. Some people say that Rosalind's lab partner Maurice Wilkins gave her unpublished work to Watson and Crick without her permission; Watson and Crick say that it was in fact officially released by King's College. I'm not aware that Franklin herself ever stated that she had been robbed. Wilkins was included in the Nobel prize; presumably Franklin would have been also had she still been alive.

    8. Re:Portion of the proceeds? by tnk1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Kissinger, like him or loathe him, actually DID something on the world stage BEFORE he got the award including the actual negotiation of peace accords, even though the accords ultimately failed to succeed.

      Obama was a not even inaugurated President-elect whose main achievement was being in the U.S. Senate for a couple of years and having one kickass campaign PR team.

      You can make a good argument why Kissinger was overrated, but I was absolutely stunned that Obama got an award not even for trying to bring peace, but simply promising to do so.

      The Peace Prize is definitely a different category of award than the others, and it has a tendency to become political due simply to the subject matter, but they used to at least point to actual work or achievements, the quality of those actions admittedly being up for argument.

    9. Re:Portion of the proceeds? by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm not aware that Franklin herself ever stated that she had been robbed.

      According to wiki and whoever they cite, she probably wasn't aware her data was used and died before she would have found that out.

    10. Re:Portion of the proceeds? by the+gnat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Perhaps the family of Dr. Crick reexamined the value of a Nobel Prize when a Nobel Prize for Peace was awarded to Barack Obama

      What exactly is the problem with you people who can't tell the difference between the Nobel Peace prize and the prizes for Physics, Chemistry, or Medicine? What makes you think the two categories have anything to do with one another, either administratively or politically? They could give the Peace prize to Bashar Assad this fall and it would still have zero relevance to the worth of the chemistry prize.

    11. Re:Portion of the proceeds? by Feyshtey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It says everything about the award, and the current state of the institution. To give the award to a person who has not earned it simply to say "fuck you" to anyone else for any reason shows a disregard for the spirit of the award, not to mention childish petulence. If your reason for the award is accurate then its even more appauling than simply because they bought into propoganda about Obama's intentions rather than judging the man on his actions. Even if everything Obama said he would bring were found to be completely true in the future, the FUTURE is the time to present the award, after a validation of the promises.

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    12. Re:Portion of the proceeds? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, it was just some chick after all.

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  2. Re:For sale: All Nobel peace prizes. by ganjadude · · Score: 4, Informative

    That was the "peace" prize. This is the science prize. Big difference

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  3. How much for the chalkboard? by crazyjj · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll give you $50!

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  4. Donate to the Rosalind Franklin Society by jestill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It would be great to buy this and donate it to the Rosalind Franklin Society ... http://www.rosalindfranklinsociety.org/

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  5. Stephen Colbert should buy it by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Funny

    That way, he'd be able to claim that he's a Nobel-holding doctor, rather than just a doctor!

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  6. Auction Link? by wisnoskij · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is a link to the item, it is being auctioned off by Heritage Auctions: http://historical.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6093&lotIdNo=50001

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    1. Re:Auction Link? by skine · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just in case there are other Nobel Prize winners looking to sell, there's a link of the page labeled "I Have One of These to Sell."

  7. Re:They can't be worth that much by wisnoskij · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is totally not off topic, Obama's Nobel metal for not being Bush degraded the reputation of all Nobel prices.

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  8. Re:Scientists, sheesh. by hazem · · Score: 5, Funny

    Crick may have been a brilliant microbiologist, but he certainly doesn't know shit about business.

    Well, to be fair to Dr. Crick, he's been dead since 2004, so knowing much of anything is probably a pretty big challenge for him.

  9. Re:Vegas Trip by Sparticus789 · · Score: 4, Funny

    You're right. It's unique and pretty neat. There's a great story to it. But it's not everyday that someone comes in to the shop looking for a Nobel Prize. It's gonna take up space on a shelf for years.

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  10. Re:Vegas Trip by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have a buddy who's an expert on Nobel Prize for Medicine medals. Let me give him a call.

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  11. Re:For sale: All Nobel peace prizes. by donscarletti · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're not worth even that, after Obama got his for sustaining war, torture and murdering own citizens.

    Well, he got it for being elected, if they want to give him a prize for sustaining war, torture and murdering own citizens then they're going to have to give him another.

    Tom Lehrer famously said that political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. I think it's been more or less a joke since well before that.

    Though it is awarded by the Norwegian Nobel Committee which has different standards and values to Karolinska Institutet or Swedish Academy of Science.

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