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2001: a Space Odyssey's Dave Returns To Sci-fi In New Film

An anonymous reader writes "Indie Kickstarter-funded short HENRi stars a sci-fi legend in a role very much like HAL-9000 — with a twist. Wired writes: 'If it sounds a little bit like 2001: The Later Years, then here's the real twist: HENRi, the ship/body, is voiced [by] Dr. Dave Bowman himself, Keir Dullea.' In a making-of video for the film, Dullea says, 'I guess you could say the character of HENRi was a sane version of HAL.' The film itself utilizes a mixture of the old and the new — combining live-action sequences with puppetry, quarter-scale miniatures, and modern CGI. The official trailer has just been released."

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  1. I'm sorry, Dave, by spokenoise · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm afraid I can't do that

    1. Re:I'm sorry, Dave, by zwei2stein · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, I certainly hope authors can do it.

      Many such projects died - which is usually great shame if is episodic sci-fi like L5

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    2. Re:I'm sorry, Dave, by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 1

      strace -p $(($(pidof pidof) + 1))

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    3. Re:I'm sorry, Dave, by mfnickster · · Score: 1

      Dave: "Open the pod bay doors, please, Hal."
      Hal: "Can you elaborate on that?"
      Dave: "Do you read me, Hal?"
      Hal: "Oh, I read you?"
      Dave: "What's the problem, Hal?"
      Hal: "We were discussing you...not me."
      Dave: "I don't know what you're talking about, Hal."
      Hal: "Does it please you to believe I am talking about ?"
      Dave: "I won't argue with you any more, Hal. Open the doors."
      Hal: "Do you wish to won't argue with me?"
      Dave: "All right, Hal. I'll go in through the emergency airlock."
      Hal: "Dear Aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all."

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  2. What makes you think HAL wasn't sane? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    HAL was the very definition of sane. Lacked a bit of compassion though

      - Anonymous Robot

    1. Re:What makes you think HAL wasn't sane? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If given conflicting goals, with no guidance on how to resolve which one is more important, is it insane to choose one?

      Rational behaviour is not necessarily nice behaviour. If you are lazy in setting goals for your AI, do not complain when it finds creative solutions to implement them, completely ignoring your original intent.

  3. Re:Silent Running ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this. "Silent Running" was way ahead of its time - it's an underrated gem. Definitely not a bad thing.

  4. Uhm... GERTY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This sounds interesting and all, but I can't help but point out that a 'sane/friendly' HAL was already done in Moon... and I find it hard to imagine a better anti-HAL than GERTY. GERTY FTW
    - X0mbiRapt0r (not Anonymous Coward, just at work without proper access required to create account/profile... also slightly lazy)

    1. Re:Uhm... GERTY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I agree with you about MOON / GERTY. However, after I did a little more digging, it seems the HAL comparison in this isn't really the main focus. It looks like it's mostly about a robot becoming sentient - also been done before plenty, but what hasn't? I'll give it a shot.

    2. Re:Uhm... GERTY? by Galaga88 · · Score: 1

      Was I the only person who spent the entire movie on pins and needles waiting for GERTY to do his heel turn? He even had a big smily face for crying out loud! There's no way he could be anything *but* evil, right? Right?

      Rather showing of audience expectations nowadays, and part of the reason I so adored Moon.

    3. Re:Uhm... GERTY? by reasterling · · Score: 1

      No, this is about a human rediscovering his humanity after being turned into a hybrid neural computer system. Not a comedy, but still interesting.

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  5. Now get Douglas Rain in... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If Keir Dullea is getting to play HAL's part (sort of), they should get Douglas Rain to play the "Dave Bowman" counterpart so that *he* can get shut out of the airlock this time round. :-)

    1. Re:Now get Douglas Rain in... by moeinvt · · Score: 2

      LOL That would be awesome!

      The only good actor revenge case I know about is Frank Vincent killing Joe Pesci in 'Casino' to take revenge for the fact that Joe Pesci had killed him in "GoodFellas".

  6. Re:Silent Running ? by SpzToid · · Score: 3, Informative

    Confused the title with Cool Runnings, so I'm glad I double-checked:

    Silent running:
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067756

    Cool runnings
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106611

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  7. Re:HAL was a jab at IBM by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    HAL letters correspond to the letters that immediately follow it alphabetically, namely, IBM.

    Coincidence, according to Clarke and Kubrick.

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  8. Re:Silent Running ? by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 2

    "Cool Runnings" was way ahead of its time - it's an underrated gem. Definitely not a bad thing.

    It's even funnier in print.

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  9. Science Fiction on Kickstarter? C 299792 km/sec by braindrainbahrain · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is it too soon to believe that renaissance in science fiction films is underway via Kickstarter?
    I say this having recently funded and watched "C 299792 km per second". Granted two films don't make a "renaissance" but I can hope...

    http://www.c-themovie.com/

  10. Purchasing This Movie by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 1

    You can buy a link to a digital copy of this 21 minute movie from the film's website for about $3 via Paypal/credit card/whatever. Please consider dropping a few bucks their way if you watch this film. This is an independent short film, not a piece of shit from the corrupt Hollywood machine, and its creators deserve monetary recognition from those in society who appreciate the film.

    By all means continue to pirate Hollywood movies, however.

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    1. Re:Purchasing This Movie by deroby · · Score: 1

      By all means continue to pirate Hollywood movies, however.

      I wonder if Comcast users will get reprimanded for watching this ...

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    2. Re:Purchasing This Movie by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

      You can buy a link to a digital copy of this 21 minute movie from the film's website for about $3 via Paypal/credit card/whatever. Please consider dropping a few bucks their way if you watch this film. This is an independent short film, not a piece of shit from the corrupt Hollywood machine, and its creators deserve monetary recognition from those in society who appreciate the film.

      By all means continue to pirate Hollywood movies, however.

      I bought a copy a few minutes ago! I hope they make a pile of cash just because they're selling and distributing it in what I call "the right way".

  11. It's good,worth the $3 for the soundtrack alone by bentwonk2 · · Score: 2

    Just bought and watched it on the strength of this post, glad I did, the film is its well done, haunting, and memorable. There are a lot worse ways to spend $3.

  12. Re:HAL was a jab at IBM by tverbeek · · Score: 1

    It's Apple's iRNEH, spelled backwards.

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  13. Re:Silent Running ? by crazyjj · · Score: 1

    Silent Running was actually directed by the guy who did the FX for 2001, so there is a lot of cross-pollination there.

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  14. Re:HAL was a jab at IBM by crazyjj · · Score: 1

    Well, the lowercase "i" suggests it's a jab at Apple.

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  15. Re:Science Fiction on Kickstarter? C 299792 km/sec by crazyjj · · Score: 1

    Hardly surprising. Genre films are very popular among geeks on the tech cutting edge. But don't worry. If the "Funding a movie via Kickstarter" thing catches on, you can expect the shitty romantic comedies and godawful cop movies to follow soon enough.

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  16. Ignores 2010 / 3001? by wolverine1999 · · Score: 1

    So does it ignore, or even retcon, the 2010 and 3001 books?

    1. Re:Ignores 2010 / 3001? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      Ignores, since it has nothing to do with those films, aside from having one of the same actors.

  17. Re:Silent Running ? by Thumper_SVX · · Score: 2

    Loved Silent Running... could've done without the overly loud and horrible song at the end...

  18. Re:HAL was a jab at IBM by moeinvt · · Score: 1

    "GDMQh" = God Damned Machine ... ?

  19. Looks like someone used to play "Suspended". by Lester67 · · Score: 1

    From what I can see of the trailer, this looks to have several elements from the old Infocom text adventure "Suspended". A human (brain) connected to a cybernetic network maintains a a city (ship) exclusively through the use of robots. If memory serves you even had to build a sixth robot out of spare parts.

  20. they tour scifi conventions by peter303 · · Score: 1

    I didnt realize that Lockwood had done the 2nd Star Trek pilot shortly before 2001. One of my favorite episodes with the guy who acquires godly psychic powers and eyes turn silver.

  21. HAL and Siri by BenSchuarmer · · Score: 1

    still a better love story than Twilight

    1. Re:HAL and Siri by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 1

      http://xkcd.com/375/

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  22. near panic by alexs001 · · Score: 1

    before I RTFA'd I thought this was going to be about plans to remake 2001. That would be going too far.

  23. Re:Silent Running ? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    Silent Running was a cool movie to watch, I'll agree, but it's basic premise was so flawed that it really hurt watching the story if you have any understanding of physics whatsoever. 2001 didn't have this: everything was actually quite accurate WRT basic physics, except of course for the monoliths and the starchild scene at the end, which can be chalked up to extremely advanced alien technology and such. The premise of Silent Running was that Earth was now devoid of forests and wild places (and they even said the whole planet was 75 degrees, which is quite impossible), so these forests were preserved in a space ship in orbit around Saturn. 1) Why on earth would you put a bunch of trees in orbit around Saturn? It's so far from the Sun you're not going to get enough light to keep Earth-normal plants alive. 2) Where'd the artificial gravity come from? There was no spinning or anything of the sort, just a dome and a flat bottom. Artificial gravity as a future technology might be believable in a story set far in the future where humans have FTL-capable spaceships and such, but there's none of that here, the tech's otherwise not much advanced from that seen in 2001. 3) Why are they keeping nuclear bombs on board? If you want to abandon the place, you'd just set it adrift. It's not like the outer solar system is short on space.

    It really wasn't in the same league as 2001. 2001, aside from the alien stuff and HAL's AI, was an extremely accurate portrayal of what things would have looked like in 2001 had the US not thrown in the towel on space exploration in the early 70s. It properly showed weightlessness (in the transit ship), artificial gravity as generated by a giant, rotating space station, a permanent base on the Moon, and a manned mission to Jupiter, all things that were achievable in the 42 years starting in 1969 when the film was released.

  24. Re:Silent Running ? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    The FX sequence when the ship flies through Saturn's belts was actually made for 2001 IIRC, and was cut from 2001 so he reused it in Silent Running.

  25. With Keir Dullea back in the spotlight... by BrainRam · · Score: 1

    ...we're another step closer to the reboot of Starlost...

  26. Let's get this one out of the way. by dpiven · · Score: 1

    "My God, it's full of hype!"

  27. Re:Silent Running ? by OakDragon · · Score: 1

    ...and they even said the whole planet was 75 degrees, which is quite impossible...

    I find 75 degrees quite comfortable, but I guess it all depends on location.

  28. Re:HAL was a jab at IBM by OakDragon · · Score: 1

    Hybrid Electronic / Neuron Responsive Intelligence

    Not sure why the "i" is small in some places; it is not presented that way on the Kickstarter page.

  29. Re:Silent Running ? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    Most people think 75 degrees is comfortable. However, it's impossible to have the whole planet at 75 degrees; the poles will always be colder than the equator.

  30. Whipper Snapper 9000 by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    "Open the Depends cabinet bay door and git off my lawn, Hal!"

  31. Re:Silent Running ? by mfnickster · · Score: 1

    It properly showed weightlessness (in the transit ship), artificial gravity as generated by a giant, rotating space station

    2001 portrayed zero-gee pretty well, but the prediction they made that people would want to "walk" and "stand" in a zero-gee environment using velcro shoes turned out to be way off. It turns out people actually adapt pretty quickly to moving around in zero-gee, and don't need one side of the room to be the "floor" to keep their bearings. Legs are a liability in zero-gee; they just get in the way.

    The scenes in the pod bay are probably the most iffy with respect to the crew's movements. It's supposed to be zero-gee in the pod bay (outside the centrifuge) but you can very plainly see that the AE-35 unit is sitting on the counter when they're testing it, and when Poole and Bowman enter the pod to talk in private, they're very clearly sitting and not floating/anchored. Even stationary people in zero-gee have a kind of "action/reaction" inertia to their movements.

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  32. Re:HAL was a jab at IBM by mostlyDigital · · Score: 1

    (DEC) VAX -> WNT (Windows NT). Dave Cutler was primary architect of both. BTW DEC was a multi-billion $ mini-computer co in the 70s and 80s.

  33. Re:HAL was a jab at IBM by Kunedog · · Score: 1

    This guy makes a compelling case that it was intentional (I especially like the "can't put my finger on it" shot): http://youtu.be/K1r5dOwUS6Y

  34. Re:HAL was a jab at IBM by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    How Kubrick used subliminal encoding

    Pass.

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  35. Re:Science Fiction on Kickstarter? C 299792 km/sec by Raenex · · Score: 1

    Seems more like a start of a movie than an actual movie.