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Ask Slashdot: Best Way To Block Noise In a Dorm?

First time accepted submitter zmitch32 writes "I live in a dorm, and I have ADHD, so every little noise distracts me. I know this annoyance isn't limited to those with ADHD, so how does everyone else block out the noise? I can't really cover my walls in soundproof foam because I live in a dorm. I can't just listen to music because I find it too interesting and just end up getting distracted by it. I use ear plugs to block out small noises, but they don't block out human voices very well at all. What do you guys/gals recommend?"

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  1. I covered my dorm room with Pink Floyd... by gatkinso · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... and Phish tapestries.

    No reason you can't put up foam and cover it with... Pink Floyd and Phish tapestries.

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    1. Re:I covered my dorm room with Pink Floyd... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      he's fucking hilarious, but seriously, tapestries work fabulously. Wool blankets from the army navy store, if they're cheap right now, work well. Used carpet works wonders. White noise generator helps substantially for some (but not all) ADD folks. I've only used ANR headsets flying, but that might help as well. You're also likely to find that certain types of music are uninteresting enough to help you tune out. Goa and Rasputina (don't ask, I'm me and you're not) helped me substantially. And, rum. Lots of rum.

    2. Re:I covered my dorm room with Pink Floyd... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do your headphones help you ignore the freaks doing bong hits 4 feet away from you?

    3. Re:I covered my dorm room with Pink Floyd... by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wish I had mod points, that was funny!

      ...damn, you made me knock my bong over =(

    4. Re:I covered my dorm room with Pink Floyd... by sortius_nod · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is the person who did this Ask Slashdot fucking serious?

      This part of Slashdot is becoming a joke. Buy some ear plugs & learn to fucking google.

    5. Re:I covered my dorm room with Pink Floyd... by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes. Good pair of head phones I can close my eyes and be where my music is.

      Or you know, go to the library and not sit next to the freaks doing bong hits.

      What do I recommend?

      1) Good drugs. Yes ADHD drugs are over prescribed to 5 year olds acting like 5 year olds but if you have a legitimate need for them they help. It's like asking "Hey Slashdot. I have cancer I don't like drugs because of xyz. What do you recommend for cancer?". Work with your doctor to find what works. I'm on Welbutrin which is an SSRI not a *Meth*

      2) Go to the library. Do you work somewhere where it is quiet.

      3) Why can't you cover your walls in foam? Go to the big box store and get 2-3" blue or pink plastic insulation and just put it up. Use double sided tape. No one says you have to tail things to the wall.

  2. Noise canceling headphones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Get a pair of noise canceling headphones. You don't even need an audio source, just some batteries to run them. A good pair of those will give you dead silence in all but the noisiest environments.

    1. Re:Noise canceling headphones by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 4, Interesting

      noise cancellation headphones work well for airplanes, trains, ..., I am not so sure they work very well for voices (or at least I haven't found any that do, usually they make voices even more annoying as they cut the background noise and make the voices stand out even more).

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    2. Re:Noise canceling headphones by Thangodin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, don't give up on music quite yet. Music with lyrics will distract you--Tom Waits, Bob Dylan, or Lou Reed would take all of your attention. But a lot of techno can actually function as white noise (which is why a lot of coders in a busy office swear by it)--the beat gives you an adrenaline boost while the content vanishes. Bach and other forms of baroque music can also serve the same function; it fades into the background but has a calming effect, and many people consider it the sound of ordered thought.

    3. Re:Noise canceling headphones by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It helps to plug them into a sound producing source playing the aforementioned Pink Floyd and Phish, or something to your taste. Alternatively, regular speakers playing Wayne Newton or Lawrence Welk will empty your room and leave you in peace (once you build up immunity.) Also joining in the aforementioned bong hits will help also. It IS college.

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  3. White Noise by dintech · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Use headphones with whitenoise. Something like a waterfall

    1. Re:White Noise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      www.simplynoise.com/ is an excellent white/pink/brown noise generator.

    2. Re:White Noise by multiben · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, this ^^^. There are several guys in my office (we are propeller heads, so it's ok to be weird) who have closed headphones on with white noise playing. It is a well known technique for concentrating because it creates a baseline background noise which your brain tunes out quite quickly but still masks irregular noises.

      Some people are mentioning noise cancelling headphones. In my opinion these won't work for your purposes as they are not well suited for cancelling voices. They work great for filtering out constant predictable frequencies.

    3. Re:White Noise by Immerman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seconded, but without the headphones. I hate to be cut off from my acoustic environment even more than I dislike the constant distraction, so I've got an old mp3 player and a set of PC speakers that play nature sounds pretty much 24-7 (looping one track which I change to suit my mood and ambient noise). Amazon has a pretty good selection though there's a fair amount of crap mixed in. Just search their mp3s for the desired type and sort longest-first to find many hour-plus recordings. Much shorter than that and I find after a while I start to memorize the patterns after a few months and the illusion is broken. Water is a good one - waterfalls, creeks, or waves. I found waves on a gravel beach (whooshing rather than thrumming or hissing against rocks or sand) particularly good for masking traffic and fan noise. Wind, rain, and fire can all be nice as well, I'm building a collection of several of each as I find particularly pleasing ones.

      Birdsong is also good, tends to ease stress (tells your subconscious that there's no predators nearby), but you need to find the right one. I found Kid in the Forest provided a wonderfully deep sound-scape and avoided the cacophony that plagues many recordings. The closest I've found to sitting in the woods while still being indoors.

      I've also developed a fondness for foreign-language music - you get a flow of human voice which most people find soothing and which nicely drowns out half-heard conversations, but it's completely incomprehensible so your mind doesn't latch on to it. And unlike classical and other dedicated instrumental compositions the music itself tends to be relatively simplistic and uninteresting as well.

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  4. Obvious answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Smoke weed. Lots and lots of weed.

  5. No such thing as 'soundproof foam'... by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 5, Informative

    as the subject says, if 'soundproof foam' existed folks building recording studios, vocal booths, practice rooms and so on would have a lot less issues!

    As somebody that is also easily annoyed by noises and especially by people talking, the only things I can suggest are noise isolation headphones and a suitable source of noise (pink noise or something like raindrops, running water, etc.), the noise isolation headphones to lower the outside noise as much as possible, and the pink noise to mask it (otherwise you'd have to have the volume in your headphones way too loud).

    You will find that pink noise or water noise masks voices pretty well if in tandem with the above, I sometimes even have to use isolation headphones (similar to the headphones that pit crews use on racing tracks) AND foam earplugs AND http://rain.simplynoise.com/ (with thunder disabled) to be able to concentrate in my current work environment.

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    1. Re:No such thing as 'soundproof foam'... by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's right... foam is like McBain's safety goggles against a river of acid... they do nothingggg

      The foam inside recording studios is there to reduce echo inside the room, not block sound transmission to the outside. The only thing that blocks sound transmission is MASS. A one-inch thick concrete wall will block hell of a lot more noise than a one-inch thick foam wall.

    2. Re:No such thing as 'soundproof foam'... by Solandri · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's not the mass per se which blocks sound. It's the density change. Going from low density to high density or vice versa (assuming speed of sound in the medium is proportional to density) reflects a large portion of sound wave back.
      http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Ultrasonics/Physics/reflectiontransmission.htm

      So if you and the noise source are separated by a one-inch thick solid concrete wall, splitting it into two half-inch concrete walls and putting a layer of foam in the middle would reduce the amount of sound transmitted. (The foam tends to absorb the reflected sound energy, so less of the reflection does a second bounce.)

  6. odd technique by slashmydots · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With whatever you're doing, silently use your internal somatic voice processing system in your brain to process the audio of counting from one to ten (basically process it as if you were going to say it, just never move your mouth). When it combines with whatever else you're doing, it will use up all that part of your brain's resources and you won't be able to hear/process any sounds around you. It's a technique that I learned very quickly when learning to speed read. It works very, very well.

    1. Re:odd technique by dpidcoe · · Score: 5, Funny

      Counting to 10 sounds more like an even technique to me. Might I suggest 11 or 9 instead?

    2. Re:odd technique by rherbert · · Score: 4, Funny

      This weird trick also boosts my testosterone.

  7. Move by Alex+Pennace · · Score: 4, Informative

    Move. I mean that seriously. Not all dorms are alike, and chances are there is a quieter room available. You will have to approach your student services office or similar about your situation, and bring documentation. They may not be able to accommodate you entirely but they may find some arrangement that would be of benefit. For example, they may make a triple in a quiet dorm into a double with a known-quiet roommate.

    If you want further information, give us the name of the school. Maybe someone here knows about a quieter dorm on your campus.

    1. Re:Move by RyoShin · · Score: 5, Informative

      You're making the assumption that the submitter has a choice in the matter; this may not be the case. The college I went to had one set of dorms (set up in an "8" format with two middle areas no one ever used) and all freshmen were required to live it in it unless they lived within a certain mile range of the campus. Even if we had been able to change rooms (which seemed possible, but only for when you returned from work term), you wouldn't notice much of a change unless you went from one extreme end of the dorms to the other.

      Now, if they go to a state or large and popular college/uni, they might have options.

      As to submitter, is this self-diagnosed ADHD or do you have a clinical diagnoses?

      If clinical: are you taking medication to help with it? If so, perhaps its worth talking to your provider about a change in prescription/dose. If you're not taking meds, perhaps talking with your doctor or a school counselor and trying some might be helpful. Even if you could sound-proof your room, you're going to get tons of distractions all over college, so it's something to look into.

      If self-diagnosed: Talk to a college counselor (my small one had two, though it could be hard to get ahold of them) or doctor if you don't have your own to get references to those who can officially diagnose you. This will make your college stay far, far easier. They can help you to control it, maybe do some of the aforementioned medication.

      In either case, distractions like the ones you mention are a part of life, and you will have situations where you will be completely unable to use foam, ear plugs, white noise through headphones, or what have you, so working now to deal with these distractions instead of just trying to block them out is in your interest. (I know nothing about ADHD except the very general notion, which is another good reason to talk to university counselors (which can be cheap or free) or doctors.)

  8. Or White Noise by alexander_686 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Good noise canceling headphones are expensive. Another, cheaper, alternative is to get a white noise generator. I know some people who swear by it. Personally I find it distracting, but each to their own.

    1. Re:Or White Noise by Wizarth · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm not a fan of white noise, but at various times and moods I've found other noise types (pink and brown in particular) to be effective. I've used http://simplynoise.com/ in the past as the generator - combined with a set of good headphones, it will block out most sound.

      Another alternative I use is orchestral music - specifically, no vocals. This makes it less attention grabbing. But I can't use it when I am trying to be creative/problem solving, for some reason.

    2. Re: Or White Noise by Runaway1956 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Best answer so far.

      One great source of white noise is a standard box fan. New, most of them are pretty quiet - get a used one that is a little noisy.

      For the stereo, don't use music, instead get nature sounds. Ocean sounds, wind sounds, running water sounds, just about anything you can get.

      Put your source of white noise between you and the wall through which the most noise comes into the room. Probably the doorway, but maybe not.

      The tapestries and other ideas for the walls is also good, but it takes bulk to absorb sound. Posters printed on paper won't do much, thick heavy tapestries will do more, and those army/navy surplus blankets will do a bit more than most tapestries. But, it can take a lot of bulky blankets to block out a lot of noise. Those blankets aren't very visually appealing, so put the blankets up, then a tapestry, if you can afford them. If not - well - you'll have to make do with what you can afford.

      Put your source of white noise between you and the wall through which the most noise comes into the room. Probably the doorway, but maybe not.

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  9. REAL earplugs by RedLeg · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm guessing you've tried the cheapass foam plugs....

    First (cheapest) option is to look for triple-flange earplugs. Look at a sporting goods store in the firearms department.

    If that doesn't work for you, look into getting custom molded plugs made. I have a set from my time as a competitive shooter, and when they are in, and correctly seated, I cannot hear ANYTHING, even though I can feel the noise in many cases. For voices and random dorm noise, that should be sufficient.

    Another option is a set of noise canceling headphones. Just don't feed them any input and they will still reduce ambient noise. I would recommend you borrow a set from a friend before investing, as the best are "over the ear" types, and they tend to create a sensation of pressure in your ears. Some folks find that uncomfortable.

    Hope this helps......

    Red (retired Field Artillery Officer)

  10. Library by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do what everyone else who lives in a dorm does when they need quiet. Go to the library.

  11. Ear Buds by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Funny
    Ear Buds, MP3 collection.

    If you find music too distracting, just put the ear buds in and turn the device WAY up for a while. After a while you'll have completely destroyed your hearing. Problem solved! You're welcome!

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    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  12. I've had this problem by Harvey+Manfrenjenson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The best solution: Foam earplugs, the kind you can buy at a drugstore that are rated for 29 decibels (or something similar), that you wad up and stick well into your ear canal. Combined with a decent pair of headphones (ideally wireless) playing the sounds of a rainstorm.

    Actually any white-noise-like sound will work, including actual white noise, a radio tuned to static, crashing waves, etc. For a month or two, I used the Fripp/Eno ambient tune "Wind On Water" playing on an endless loop. Watch your decibel levels-- it doesn't need to be played loud to work.

    This setup will drown out the fucking zombie apocalypse.

     

  13. With so many geeks here... by owlnation · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... yet no-one has suggested duct tape yet?

    There's many ways duct tape can solve this. Some of them are probably even legal.

  14. Definitive best way to block noise by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fill the room with breasts. Attached to beautiful coeds. You won't hear a thing.

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    1. Re:Definitive best way to block noise by Kwyj1b0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fill the room with breasts. Attached to beautiful coeds. You won't hear a thing.

      But I have ADHD. Every time a new pair of breasts comes in, I forget all about the pair in my face!

  15. Go to the f-ing library by shoemilk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Buy this and move are the only things people have been suggesting. One guy did have interesting advice about the somatic voice processing center of the brain, but I can't believe not a single person has suggested that you leave your room, walk across campus and go to the freaking library. Need a computer? There are computer labs everywhere, too. Seriously, I thought this was one of the worst ask slasdots and expected half the answers to be "Go to the f-ing library". But no one?! let me say it then.

    GO TO THE F-ING LIBRARY!

    1. Re:Go to the f-ing library by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Man, have you tried masturbating in a library? It's hard.

  16. Re:Or White Noise + EGG Chair by BoRegardless · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Decades back I sat in a large egg shaped shell with a small opening with a padded interior you could sit in with stereo speakers in it.

    Whether it was music or white noise, once you were in the chair almost all the extraneous noise in the room just disappeared.

    Even someone speaking right in front of the opening was difficult to hear.

  17. From someone studying acoustics by rwhealey · · Score: 4, Informative
    The only thing "soundproof foam" is good for is burning down the building and killing everyone in it. There is no such thing as "soundproof foam."

    There are basically two ways airborne sound travels between two rooms: 1) air leaks between the rooms. 2) through a mechanism where the sound wiggles the wall surface on one side, which wiggles the surface on the other side and re-transmits the sound back into the air.

    You can stop air leaks with attention to detail during construction - the partitions should go all the way up to the ceiling, and the floor and ceiling joints should be caulked. The only way to stop the second problem is making the wall more difficult to wiggle - or increasing it's mass. Most modern dormitories have moved away from concrete and concrete block construction which is much better at stopping sound to a gypsum wall board on metal stud construction, which is lighter and therefore transmits sound much better.

    Unless you want to pour a new 6" concrete wall or line the room in thick lead, you are unlikely to be able to stop the sound transmission. Having maintenance seal the door and windows better may help if there is a leak problem. You can tell by listening around the door. If the sound is much louder near the bottom of the door than elsewhere in the room, you've found the leak.

    The best way to approach this problem is to go to audiologist and get fitted for custom earplugs. They will make a mold of your ear and send it to a company like http://www.etymotic.com/hp/erme.html. You can select the filter up to a maximum of -25dB over a much more even bandwidth than cheap earplugs. It will likely solve the problem without introducing masking noise willy-nilly.

    That being said, a loudspeaker playing white or pink noise could mask the problem, if you don't mind listening to it. I dislike constant noise, but that would be up to you.

    If you're hearing "thumping" of footsteps or feeling the noise problem, that's a different ballgame: structure borne transmission. Buy your upstairs neighbors a thick rug so they don't impact the floor as hard or replace the ceiling with something more rigid...

  18. No ticket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Butler: [Answering door] Yes?
    Indiana Jones: [In Scottish accent] Not before time! did you intend to leave us standing on the doorstep all day? we're drenched
    [sneezes in butler's face]
    Indiana Jones: Now look, I've gone and caught a sniffle
    Butler: Are you expected?
    Indiana Jones: Don't take that tone with me my good man! Now buttle off and tell Baron Brunwald that Lord Clarence McDonald and his lovely assistant
    [Drags Elsa towards him]
    Indiana Jones: are here to view the tapestries
    Butler: Tapestries?
    Indiana Jones: The old man is dense, this is a castle isn't it? there are tapestries
    Butler: This is a castle and we have many tapestries, and if you are a Scottish lord then I am Mickey Mouse!
    Indiana Jones: How dare he?
    [punches butler in face]

  19. Re:Comming from someone with ADHD... by gman003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Suggestion for music: video game soundtracks. It's generally designed to be undistracting, and something you can listen to over and over again.

    Best place to start would probably be PS1/N64 games. Too limited for any significant vocals (out of the 993 songs I have from that generation, only five have vocals, and two of them are in Latin), but tends to be more cinematic and slow than the often fast-paced, baroque stuff of earlier consoles. Plus, if you're in a college dorm now, you likely grew up playing those games, so you get some nostalgia.

  20. Two suggestions that will give you PEACE by Sir+Holo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your solution is almost in-hand!

    I long-ago created a solution that you will find useful, although created for my own self at the time, in a similar situation.

    Play the MP3 "Gray-brown noise.mp3," found at the following public link, on repeat: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84396909/Gray-Brown%20Noise.mp3

    You see, the problem with noise-cancelling headphones is that they cancel repetetive noises. That results in a situation in which human conversation is easier to hear. For an ADHD, ithat's backwards. Right? You need a mask.

    In reality, what you want to do is to raise the background level of ambient noise across the entire frequency spectrum, to obscure incidental noises (talking, music, etc.). Play my MP3. Whether you use headphones or speakers, your brain will get used to the monotonous (patternless) broad-band "noise," and will quickly adapt to a base level of "even" noise, so that it will ignore many transients (talking, music, etc.).

    I call it gray-brown noise because, well, actually, just see Wikipedia. Anyways, gray noise is equalized to have the same perceived-energy-intensity across all of the octaves of the human range of hearing. So, unlike white noise, which is harsh and high-pitched, this MP3 is gray––it is even. Second, I used a Brownian noise-generator to generate the original 5-miunute sound file. (See Wikipedia, but basically Brownian=random walk vs random distribution of frequency energies––>more natural.) It is gray for me because I have adjusted the equalization to match the response of my over-earbuds (from Brookstone) and my iPod. To attain gray, you may have to play with your equalizer. (But hey, even playing this MP3 " straight" totally kills TONS of distracting ambient noise, as you will easily hear. So, don't sweat the perfection of the "gray" part).

    You will have to adjust the equalization to your own computer speakers, or to your chosen type of earphones, to achieve the optimal gray. But, after that, you will be in heaven.

    Once adjustments are done, you're set; your brain will quickly get bored of the pattern-less "noise," letting you ignore any spurious auditory input, and just get to work. A bonus is that it covers up lots of ambient and transient noises. That is, it raises the signal floor,the floor above which your brain says, "Hey, what's that noise all about?!?

    People can blather, play music, and so on, but if you have your "WALL OF GRAY-BROWN NOISE PRESSURE" up in defense, then you are golden. The BONUS is that NO ONE really hears it. It's background to them; sounds like an airplane engine from inside the cabine). :) Add to that the straight blockage that a pair of earlpugs (from an Audioogist) will provide you, and you will be completely oblivious to all that is around you.

    Sincerely,
    Sir Holo
    sirholo@mac.com

    Any thanks from you or other ADHDs (etc.) will make me feel good, knowing that I have helped someone. Feel free to re-post the (unedited) MP3 anywhere (with credit included in meta-data). (

    Enjoy!