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Samsung Unveils the Galaxy S4

adeelarshad82 writes "It's been leaked, teased, accused of being a copy of its predecessor, and celebrated as the likely champion of the mobile ecosystem for 2013. Samsung has finally unveiled the next in their line of globally available smartphones, the Galaxy S4. The phone carries a 5-inch Super AMOLED display with 1080p resolution at 441ppi, weighs only 130 grams and is no more than 7.9mm thick. On the inside, the Exynos based Octo-Core processor clocked at 1.6 GHz and the Snapdragon based Quad-Core 1.9GHz processor power this machine. Galaxy S4 is also packing 2GB of RAM and a 2600mAh battery, and its microSD slot is accessible though the removable rear panel. The S4 will include several new features, such as Air Gesture, Smart Pause, and Smart Scroll. Samsung's vice president of portfolio planning said many of the software improvements in the Samsung Galaxy S4 could make their way into existing Samsung Galaxy S3 phones."

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  1. Eh, that's it? by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    incremental improvements and an overall nice phone, sure, but the ad I saw said it was gonna be the biggest revolution since the color TV.

    1. Re:Eh, that's it? by sd4f · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe they should have said biggest revolution since 3D TV.

    2. Re:Eh, that's it? by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have an S3 now and I'm planning on keeping it until it dies. Unless I can get a phone that has two days constant usage on a single battery charge, or uninterpretable signal. I don't see the point in spending $600 every year on a new phone for incremental changes. I probably would still be using my HTC HD2 if it hadn't died on me.

    3. Re:Eh, that's it? by sayfawa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm surprised by how many people expected it to be so much better than the S3. When does a phone ever completely change in less than a year?

      More importantly, who buys a phone in less than a year after their last? This isn't for people with an S3, it's for everyone else. Like me. I can't think of any line of phones where I would want to have each iteration. But I'll get this, and then I'll happily skip the S5, whatever it happens to be. The S3 isn't outdated now, and the S4 won't be outdated for a couple of years when the S6 comes along.

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    4. Re:Eh, that's it? by viperidaenz · · Score: 5, Funny

      What's the point in a wireless device with an uninterpretable signal?

    5. Re:Eh, that's it? by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Funny

      I suppose if you can't make any calls, you can't drop any.

    6. Re:Eh, that's it? by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I have apple's latest version of iOS (on my ipad,) and it already feels dated.

      - Application icons get thrown about haphazardly upon install requiring manual sorting, even for an app you don't even use very much (whereas android stores them alphabetically so they are easy to find - even if you rarely use the app.)
      - Changing any common setting requires switching apps followed by menu navigation, whereas on android it's just a swipe and tap without any navigation necessary (e.g. turning wifi on/off, muting, orientation lock.)
      - Can't set application launch defaults, such as setting a default email client other than the stock one. (good lord...WHY? every other OS has done this since the 80's...)
      - Although apple finally made notifications stop interrupting what you're doing by borrowing the notification bar system from android, the notifications it provides aren't ever good enough to tell you what you need to know without opening them.
      - I'm not a heavy widget user, but I like having a brief display of my agenda visible on my smartphone desktop, as well as an RSS ticker on my tablet desktop. Apple offers no such capability without running an app. Every other OS, including (shudder) windows phone has managed to do this, but not apple.

      The whole point of a smartphone is having access to information you need quickly, and iOS hasn't offered many improvements in that department in years. The ones that it has added (e.g. passive notifications) it ripped from android, and it didn't really do a good job of it.

      It's kind of hard to give the "innovative" title to a company who hasn't really done anything other than incremental hardware updates. While android is also stuck in increment land at the moment, at least it increments both hardware AND software. Also android doesn't call each generation "the best iphone yet" or "the new ipad".

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    7. Re:Eh, that's it? by mrbester · · Score: 4, Informative

      A custom ROM would have helped.

      Sent using my SGS i9000 running CyanogenMod 10.1 M2

      Yeah I'll probably upgrade...

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    8. Re:Eh, that's it? by shatfield · · Score: 5, Interesting

      441ppi is AWESOME, by the way! The "retina" display is only 326ppi! Your eyes will not be able to see individual pixels on that screen... it'll look as good or even better than print.

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    9. Re:Eh, that's it? by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Informative

      Exorbitant cost? I paid more for my Samsung Galaxy S3 than my wife's iPhone.

    10. Re:Eh, that's it? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree though that the notion that every year needs to deliver NEW! NEW! NEW! is ridiculous.

      If you think about it, that's not really true. At least here in the US.

      Most people don't think about switching phones before their contract is up. The people who do are either (a) raving fanbois, (b) exceedingly disgruntled with their phone, (c) have lost their existing phone due to some mishap, or (d) getting some kind of deal. But I would bet that a large majority of customers don't change their phones until their contract is up.

      Now when you figure that it's a two year contract, figure that in any given year, half the people are coming out of their contract. You certainly want to sell them a phone that is the latest and greatest. That means that every year, there are people coming off a contract who are interested in NEW! NEW! NEW! and you want to have a device to sell them.

    11. Re:Eh, that's it? by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Informative

      like LTE or new shiny.

      or iPhone -> iPhone 3G = 3G
      -> 3GS = faster hsdpa and video recording
      -> 4 = retina display, 'face time'
      -> 4S = 4G, Siri
      -> 5 = LTE

    12. Re:Eh, that's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      441ppi is AWESOME, by the way! The "retina" display is only 326ppi! Your eyes will not be able to see individual pixels on that screen... it'll look as good or even better than print.

      Your eyes can't see the individual pixels at 326ppi either so all that extra ppi is just taking up processing power and battery and is worthless.

    13. Re:Eh, that's it? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Next time I'll look for a phone with an ineffable signal.

      There was a girl I liked back in college who I took out a few times, but it turned out she was ineffable.

      After that, I tried to stick to only the effable ones.

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    14. Re:Eh, that's it? by Sussurros · · Score: 4, Funny

      Curiously in the 80s and 90s the type of girls known as Jersey Girls in the US were called Effies in Australia after a TV character called Efimea but known to all and sundry as Effie.

      The different meanings of the words F-able and effable and their antonyms unF-able and ineffable often form an unholy symmetry when applied to particular women.

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    15. Re:Eh, that's it? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Funny

      The really nice part here is that it's also AMOLED.

    16. Re:Eh, that's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's a 441ppi _PENTILE_ display.

      A proper display LCD has 3 subpixels per pixel, which means a 326ppi display actually has 978 dots per inch.

      A 441ppi pentile display has 2 subpixels per pixel, which is 882 dots per inch.

      So strictly speaking, the Galaxy S IV still has less pixels per inch than the last 3 revisions of the iPhone. In fact, I think even the Galaxy S II might have had a better display than this new one.

    17. Re:Eh, that's it? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thank you for "explaining" the too-too-subtle wordplay to us, Captain Obvious!

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    18. Re:Eh, that's it? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Somehow I doubt it will shut the pentile haters up, but for the rest of us AMOLED screens provide much deeper blacks and more vibrant colours. My GS3 and plasma TV have really spoiled me when it comes to black levels, to the point where most LCDs look grey now.

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    19. Re:Eh, that's it? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is ridiculous. How is the smartphone who most people (at least in US) own is a fashion accessory?

      1. A smartphone is a "which" or a "that", but not a "who". (At least you didn't use "whom" as a nominative, thank random factors for small favours.)

      2. Most people in the US wear shoes, which are highly functional and indeed in many circumstances necessary items, yet they too are often regarded as fashion accessories. Life is fraught with such mysteries!

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    20. Re:Eh, that's it? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Note to mods:

      "My baseless claim contradicts your baseless claim" != "informative".

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    21. Re:Eh, that's it? by ephraimX · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's... not how it works. The "penta" part refers to a prototype arrangement that isn't actually in use in any phones (see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile).

      These phones are using the RGBG pattern, which has the greens 1-to-1 with the pixel map, which means each pixel is either a green-with-red or a green-with-blue. So the parent here did do the math correctly.

    22. Re:Eh, that's it? by rossz · · Score: 4, Funny

      incremental improvements and an overall nice phone, sure, but the ad I saw said it was gonna be the biggest revolution since the color TV.

      It's aimed at iPhone 4s owners whose loyalty is swaying.

      It's aimed at iPhone 4 owners where are easily impressed by a cell phone that can make phone calls.

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    23. Re:Eh, that's it? by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Informative

      Plastic body? How about the far better screen, processor, ram, feature set (NFC, Bluetooth 4), external SD card, better sound quality.

      Shit give me a plastic body with those features any day.

    24. Re:Eh, that's it? by Fallingcow · · Score: 4, Funny

      and real time 3D maps

      Whoa, am I the only one who has this 100% of the time, whether I'm using my phone or not?

    25. Re:Eh, that's it? by ArsonSmith · · Score: 5, Funny

      Get Verizon, they charge me a lot for wireless.

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    26. Re:Eh, that's it? by hairyfish · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't see the point in spending $600 every year on a new phone for incremental changes.

      That's nice, but did you ever think that not everyone has an S3 currently? Nor are S3 owners the only target market? I have an S2 and I'll be off contract next month so I'll be getting one, same goes for others I've spoken to with other older smartphones. By releasing even an incremental upgrade it keeps Samsung in front. Apple fanboys will have to wait a long 6 months (an eternity in the smartphone market)before they have something that competes, even then I doubt the next iPhone will due to their locked-in design. And if it does Samsung will have something else out a few months after it to steal its thunder.
      In summary, a quick release cycle is much better than a slow one, as market share is demonstrating.

  2. Re:Screen size by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What I don't understand is the IR port.

    Don't like what's on TV in the bar? Change it!

  3. Re:Screen size by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can't see the additional detail so why give up battery life to drive more pixels.

    You're making an assumption which may not be valid. First of all, the primary driver of screen battery life is brightness, not resolution. Second, if you're not doing something graphics intensive on your phone, the battery will get you through the day anyway. So your concern is mostly applicable when doing things like playing games and watching movies. Now, if you're watching a 1080p movie on a smaller resolution screen, the phone's graphics processor has to downconvert the image. So the question becomes, which is more of a drain on battery life - downconverting a 1080p movie to a 960px screen, or playing a 1080p movie on a full HD screen? This I don't know the answer to, but I suspect that it's a close call.

    smafti

  4. Battery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're going to love that you can pop in a brand-new battery. The more the phone does, the more it will use up the power, the more recharge cycles, and the faster your battery wears out (note that battery running times become unacceptable long before the battery is actually gone).

  5. Re:Tim Cook spread his fud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you serious? A chief of marketing named Schiller?

  6. Re:It's time to stop calling these things "phones" by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People used to ask why desktops would need multiple processors. Most software now takes advantage of multithreading capability, and trying to use a single core process is downright painful.

    It may not need to multitask many phone calls at once, but it most certainly may need to multitask a whole bunch of apps at once, especially on a phone that can do things like instantly translate written or spoken text, record and composite two video sources at once and audio in real time, receive notifications such as texts, keep track of calendars, locations, temperatures (?), heart rates (!), etc. while you go about whatever it is you're doing, running a pretty sophisticated operating system with a pretty sophisticated user interface, and oh yeah, take and process telephone calls. And don't forget that it might have to do some of these tasks twice, given that the phone can be configured to be running an entirely separate virtual OS for your work stuff.

    Never ask why any electronics device would need more resources, whether it's CPU cores, memory, storage capacity, network bandwidth, or anything else. It's a sure recipe for looking back in five years and say, "Wow, I sure was dumb back then. I never dreamed that devices today would be able to [insert amazing capability due directly to advancement in hardware specifications]!"

  7. Re:Screen size by Misagon · · Score: 4, Informative

    The S IV's screen isn't LCD, it is AMOLED.

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  8. 5 months old... by mtb_ogre · · Score: 5, Informative

    Jelly Bean was released in November, making it 4 months old, 5 months by the time the SIV is generally available. Jelly Bean will be obsoleted by Key Lime Pie at Google's I/O developer conference in May so you get a whole month to enjoy being on the current version of Android, that might be some kind of record. After which you get to wait another 4-5 months for Samsung to get the OS up and approved by US carriers.

  9. Re:Where's the Mini? by rsmith-mac · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem with the S3 Mini is that it had almost nothing to do with the S3. It was a redressed version of one of Samsung's midrange smartphones. Even the Galaxy S2 was more powerful/capable in most situations, never mind the S3.

  10. Re:Smartphone? by macshit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...5" screen is too big and bloated...

    If that is your problem at least with Samsung you have the mini models.

    The problem is that the mini models aren't just smaller screens, they're lower-spec generally. I suspect that most people that don't like the current bloat-o-phone/phablet trend actually want a nice fast processor, high-resolution display, lots of memory, a good camera, etc, they just don't want the ridiculously oversized phones. I know I certainly don't.

    It isn't just Samsung, this sort of simple-minded "bigger = better, smaller = old phone for kids" mindset seems very common amongst all the smartphone manufacturers. [Samsung perhaps deserves a bit more of the blame, though, as they're an industry leader, so other makers probably tend to follow what they're doing to some extent.]

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  11. Re:Smartphone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually I find 5 inches to be about perfect. It'll fit my pocket okay and I can actually hold it.

    That's what she said.

  12. Re:First 8 core phone by dfghjk · · Score: 4, Informative

    "It" doesn't scale to 8 cores. It's a 4 core processor where each "core" has both a low power and high performance core that it selects between. Only 4 cores are operational at any given time.

    Of course, that doesn't matter to the tech-savvy membership of /. 8 is greater than 4, that's what counts.

  13. That's OK by arielCo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've an S3 too, and we can't even accuse Samsung of wanting you to upgrade on every launch; you just buy whatever is fresh at the time you need it, so it'll last you as long as possible. I expect the S6 to be out by the time our S3's are severely obsolete.

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  14. Re:Screen size by Solandri · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you compare subpixel density, the SGS4 is 882 subpixels per inch, my lumia 920 is 1280x768 with a pixel density of 332, comprising three sub pixels and 4.5 inches, therefore the subpixel density is 996 per inch, therefore if it was pentile it would be 498 ppi.

    No, because your eyes suck at seeing blue. Your eyes have very poor resolution in blue, moderately better resolution in red, and sharpest resolution in green. The whole point of a pentile display is not to waste subpixels on blue and red that your eyes can't even see. So you put in more green subpixels than red or green.

    Put another way, even though the Lumina has 996 subpixels per inch, 67% of them are much higher resolution than your eyes can resolve, while 33% (green) are lower resolution than your eyes can resolve. So you're actually wasting a lot of subpixels. With a pentile RGBG display, the ratio of subpixels better matches your eye's resolving ability. 50% of the pixels are devoted to green, 25% for red, 25% for blue. So pentile can produce a sharper looking picture than RGB while using fewer subpixels. Pentile only looks bad if you unrealistically put your eye right up to the screen or take a magnified photo.

    And before anyone starts rebutting that they can see the difference, no you can't. This trick is not new nor did it start with Android pentile displays. It's been used in NTSC TV broadcasts, color film formulation, and JPEG and MPEG compression. All of those store and display red and blue at a lower resolution than green. That you never noticed this before is proof that it works. It's just new to computer displays because until recently we didn't have spare computing power to waste on converting RGB data for a single pixel into a RGBG subpixel array millions of times in real time.

  15. Re:tap to turn WiFi On/Off? by GigaplexNZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not on Android. There was no way to turn on WiFi with a single click until Android 4.2.2, and even in Android 4.2.2 is it a press and hold, not a tap.

    I'm running 2.3.7 and I just hit the WiFi button on one of the widgets.

  16. Re:Smartphone? by niftydude · · Score: 5, Informative

    With a five inch screen it's a small tablet! I wouldn't mind having one, but I'd still need a phone, my pocket isn't that big.

    In terms of size - the S4 is actually smaller and lighter than the S3 - even though the S3 only has a 4.8" screen.

    S3: 136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6 mm, 133 g
    S4: 136.6 x 69.8 x 7.9 mm, 130 g

    The screen runs closer to the edges, and the buttons at the bottom are slimmer. All in all, some pretty neat engineering.

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  17. Re:First 8 core phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seen the profits Apple is making from phones? Apple won the game a long time ago.

    You do realize that you're boasting about how hard Apple fleeced you, don't you?

  18. Re:Found 'em by sacrilicious · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, the last two quarters they were outselling all other smartphones on every U.S. carrier that carried them.

    Even if this were true, what an incredibly misleading statement. Android has 75% of the smartphone market outright, and rising FAST. I have no idea if Apple somehow outsells every other *individual* model of cellphone (or however else your statement might be twisted to be "true"), but the raw numbers most definitely support the rhetorical asking/observation "where's Apple in all this".

    And all those cores are of little use without software to use them. iOS still has a huge quality and power lead in apps.

    I'd ask for substantiation, but this quote is too subjective to warrant it.

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  19. Re:WTF by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Informative

    While Samsung doesn't lock down the bootloader they do a few underhanded things to ensure warranty claims can identify phones which have had their firmwares played with. Flashing custom firmware on a Samsung Galaxy phone causes a yellow triangle to appear during boot. This is a feature in the bootloader firmware. Fortunately the XDA guys have figured out ways around it, but the phone is definitely not open in the same way a Nexus is open.

  20. Re:Smartphone? by ArsonSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

    I love my galaxy note. See I have a giant head so when I'm talking on the phone with my note it really helps make my head look smaller.

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  21. Re:Found 'em by stenvar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And all those cores are of little use without software to use them. iOS still has a huge quality and power lead in apps.

    Funny, the reason I gave up on iOS was the limited app selection: no keyboards, no launchers, restricted VPN, no widgets, no third party tethering, no file system apps, limited ssh and web servers, limited third party music and video stores, etc.

  22. Some people are really underestimating this device by dell623 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The sales will depend more on marketing as usual, but..

    1) That display is awesome, AMOLEDs are getting better and we're finally beyond retina density for AMOLED displays (the S3 had a pentile display which lowers the effective dpi a bit)

    2) The 5" screen is not what decides the dimensions. This is actually narrower than the S3. It's a milimeter wider than my Nexus 4, which I could live with. When I bought the Nexus 4 I was wary of a 4.7" screen but it's surprisingly usable and I don't have large hands. I wouldn't want to go back to a smaller display for anything. Narrower bezels are a long needed advance, and Apple hasn't caught up yet - the Motorola Razr M for example squeezes a 4.3" screen in an iPhone 5 sized device.

    3) It is slimmer and fits a far higher capacity battery than the S3. The effect on power consumption from the screen and new processor/GPU isn't known yet, but I bet this will do better than the HTC One.

    4) Forget the lame launch, there are some genuinely cool features in there.

    5) Not launching a 4.3 inch S4 Mini with top of the line specs is a huge and stupid omission from Samsung.