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Israeli Firm Makes Kilomile Claims For Electric Car Battery Tech

cylonlover writes with this tantalizing excerpt from GizMag "Israel-based company Phinergy claims to have developed metal-air battery technology that promises to end the range anxiety associated with electric vehicles. The company's battery currently consists of 50 aluminum plates, each providing energy for around 20 miles (32 km) of driving. This adds up to a total potential range of 1,000 miles (1,609 km), with stops required only every couple of hundred miles to refill the system with water."

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  1. batteries are not rechargable by mrvan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From TFA (I know, but there were no comments yet ;-):

    The company says the aluminum plate anodes in its aluminum-air battery have an energy density of 8 kWh/kg, but the batteries are not rechargeable. Once the energy is expended, the plates, which add up to around 55 pounds (25 kg) per battery, need to be replaced. However, the company points out that aluminum is easily recyclable and that swapping the battery out for a fresh one is quicker than recharging.

    That makes it a lot less appealing, I would say...

    1. Re:batteries are not rechargable by santax · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It will depend on the price. If I can get a new battery like I would get a new gas-container for my cooking needs, no problemo. Just as long as it's at a reasonable price.

    2. Re:batteries are not rechargable by Ksevio · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That would be a big downside - however, they also say they can get it a 200 mile range using Lithium ion batteries which is respectable. It could be that this one time use battery is to quell the complaints of people who say "But what if I want to road trip 500 miles into the middle of no-where!"

    3. Re:batteries are not rechargable by rlwhite · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The article says the battery contains 55 lb of aluminum. The price of aluminum currently fluctuates in the general vicinity of $1 per lb, so we're talking at least $50 in raw materials. Add in other materials, manufacturing costs, and profit, and I'm going to guess a $100 battery is not out of the question. Maybe $75 if we're lucky. That sounds high as a gas replacement initially, but if it truly gets 1,000 miles on the aluminum battery and we compare it to a gas-sipping car (we'll say 50mpg), the gas at $3.50/gal would cost $70 for 1,000 miles. When you consider how few cars in the US get that good of mileage and the ever-climbing price of gas, we are probably somewhere close to a break-even point economically.

    4. Re:batteries are not rechargable by Aardpig · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hang on a sec; the *battery* contains 55lb of Al, and the *battery* provides power for 1,000 miles. So, that translates to 0.055 lb/mile, which is significantly smaller than gasoline.

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    5. Re:batteries are not rechargable by jabuzz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except these batteries generate electricity by turning aluminium into aluminium oxide. Admittedly it will be nice pure oxide that can go straight back to the electrolytic smelter to be turned back into aluminium. However it cannot be just melted back into aluminium and is more like $300 per tonne.

  2. Re: Unit of measure confusion by ArcadeMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So you are also okay with a decipound, two kiloinches and three millifeet?

  3. Kilomile? by AnotherShep · · Score: 4, Informative

    Who the fuck came up with that dumb word? Someone needs a nice hearty punch in the dick for that.

  4. We don't measure miles in kilos by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 5, Funny

    640 miles should be enough for anyone.

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  5. Re:'Refill with water every 200 mi' by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Get a bigger water tank, and automatic refill system. Or maybe I'm thinking too simple now?

    You're not thinking simple enough. Hint: The driver is sucking down a 64 ounce Big Gulp every two hours...

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