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The ATF Wants To Know Who Your Friends Are
i_want_you_to_throw_ writes "You have a Friend Request from: Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms... 'Confirm'? 'Not Now'? Seriously, the ATF won't try to friend you on Facebook. The ATF doesn't just want a huge database to reveal everything about you with a few keywords. It wants one that can find out who you know. According to a recent solicitation from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the bureau is looking to buy a 'massive online data repository system' for its Office of Strategic Intelligence and Information (OSII)."
In a truely free country the ATF would be a convenience store and not a government agency. In a free country you would be able to buy your alcohol, tobacco, firearms AND explosives from an ATF convenience store.
How about the director of Homeland Security...
Is that good enough?
It was someone who isn't a homophobic bigot. You do nothing by posting those things other than making the rest of us gun-toting, bible-thumping Americans look bad. Please chose your words more carefully, nobody thinks any more of you because you can spell faggot correctly in all caps and do so at every opportunity.
Palantir is the leader in this field, why not just go with them?
All the tools you need for swallowing up large ill-formed sources of information and dicing and slicing however you want.
"People" (I mean that in the loosest sense) here don't got no friends anyways.
Fuck systemd. Fuck Redhat. Fuck Soylent, too. Wait, scratch the last one.
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So I guess that ATF just heard about cliques and graph theory. Perhaps knowing the degree of bacon-ness would tell them that this approach to a friend-of-a-friend is useless. As everyone knows, the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon Conjecture" posits that every-one in filmdom is on a path of length at most 6 away from being in a film with Kevin Bacon (link to him yourself, if you want, he's less than 6 degrees away).
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So if Baconicity holds true in all of life instead of just in the film industry graph, then any individual can be linked to a criminal within less than six steps. Oh-my-godzies, we're all linked to criminals!! We all have gang ties!! We're all affiliated with Terrorists!! That linkage list shows it!! It must be true!!! Lock us all up, for our own goods!
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If that sounds ridiculous, that's because it is ridiculous. But that won't stop the government from claiming it to be true and useful and actually use it in courts of law. Shheeeeesh. It's like the old canard about "cocaine residue on money": -- most paper currency in the USA has cocaine residue on it
-- even national geographic Cocaine on Money: Drug Found on 90% of U.S. Bills confirms this to be true
Yet the government often tried to try (yes, prosecute = to try a case) people for being drug couriers/smugglers/kingpins because the money found on their person had drug residue on it. Unfortunately, the penetrance of drug residue on money is so high that there is not a reliable way to link the person's drug use with the drugs found on the money. See statistics 101 to figure that out.
Don't criticize (s) people for poor spelling if you can't spell or proofread your own posts. Or at least CHOOSE not to.
Jim Beam, Philip Morris, and the brothers Smith and Wesson, of course.
Keep your friends close but keep ATF closer.
AFAIK FB 'friends' in most cases are not exactly what one would consider to be a friend IRL. I mean if you have 1000 friends, what does that mean?
An old tale:
A young man decided to get married, he was busy and asked his father to call 50 people on a list. He said "these are my friends, can you call them and invite them for the wedding ceremony?" The father agreed.
On his wedding day the son confronted his father "I asked you to call all of my friends", "and so I did", "but there were 50 people on my list and I only see 15". "Son, I called all 50 people and told each one of them that you have a problem and you need help and they should meet with you in this exact location at this exact time, so don't worry, all your friends are here now".
Back to the story: of-course government wants to know everything about you, don't you understand, it's for the collective good.
You can't handle the truth.
As it is right now, when the ATF gets a search warrant to put your name in Google, Google will only return relevant results specific to the charge. This database of fascist searches wants to return everything! Ridiculous! This "thing" will know who your friends are and who you've had contact with! Look fascist state-mongers, just because I put shit on the internet and then make it easily searchable on Facebook doesn't mean it's public. I have a right to privacy, you know. FUck you big government bitches.
No excuse me, I have to go upload photos of me doing something illegal to the internet. I made sure to mark it private so I'm sure it's unreachable by the ATF until this "right restrictor" comes online.
this is because the ATF wants to illegally sell guns to all your friends so they can kill people
FYI, OP probably isn't a homophobe either. Probably voted for Obama twice, but just a troll trying to make the "other side" look bad by frothing at the mouth.
I propose an open-source decentralized big-data platform for tracking all politicians, their movements, who they talk to, where they've been, they're locations, their correspondence (that's public), their donations, criminal backgrounds, known associations, and everything about them in an easily searchable, index-able manner.
Who wants to work on this with me! Seriously people we could do this in a legal way and that would be something that COULD make a difference. Probably not but worth a try...
'We are trying to prove ourselves wrong as quickly as possible, because only in that way can we find progress.' RPF
I used to be friends with this guy named Tom, but I haven't talked to him since 2004.
I'm not a homophobe and I only voted for that dickhead once (big mistake)! I just want to see America's moral values go further down the shithole than they already have.
Remember when Facebook was private, before it started making your stuff public? And do you remember when your email was considered private?
And your messages? And Skype? And GPS location? And phone contact list?
Email flipped fast, with 6 month old email being claimed as warrant free public data! Yet Sarah Palin email is apparently super secret!
See the ATF can search public data and the more data is 'made' public by failing to enforce privacy laws the better. The problem here is data that is really private has been claimed as public, and nobody is there to enforce any privacy law because they've had their hands in the cookie jar.
Remember when financial data was private? That leaked offshore financial data the other day, where are all the USA politicians? Bankers? Koch brothers? Fund Managers? Rupert Murdochs? Are you seriously telling me none of those had their hands in the cookie jar? Yet where the data?
The ATF wanting such a database is like terror turned inward. Are we really in such danger that we need all kinds of agencies studying the public? I think it is a bit much. And I am very aware that such information has been compiled, one way or another, since at least the 1950s..
Have gnu, will travel.
Seeing that our Government already did an end run around our First Amendment Rights to Freedom of Association in 1950 with the Red Scare under a Republican President, it only goes to follow that we now embrace the Democrat's Gun Scare under Obama.
IT. IS. WHAT. THE. PEOPLE. WANT. AFTER. ALL.
I mean, haven't we already seen a handful of news organisations and blogs outing local gun owners to shame the thousands of gun owners and invite them to be harassed, assaulted or worse? Already, we rightly expell kids from the school system for pointing a finger and saying "pew pewpew" and even dodgeball is facing bannination from the school ground for it's abject violence -- and you better bury those FPS like CoD in your backyard before "we" find them.
Why you ask? Why not? Why not going after anyone who's ever used or owned a gun?
After all, they must be bad people -- and if you know someone who owns a gun, you are probably a pretty bad person your self.
So choose your Facebook friends wisely, or you might have to suffer the "consequences".
I don't have friends.
I love Jesus, except for his foreign policy.
When will the public finally decide that the US Govt has gone too far? Honestly I would have thought it'd been years ago. The left was going batshit crazy 6+ years ago about the imperialistic Bush administration, but apparently the new flavor of crazy this administration is pulling is all hunky dory.
"But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,..." - Nancy Pelosi
Actually, this would be version 3, and again, it would start under a Democratic Party president, although I don't know why that matters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare
Their goals are ridiculous in free country. A country isn't free if it's government knows what everyone is doing all the time. Besides that, why weren't they asking for this information 10 or 20 years ago? People had connections in the past but the government never sought to know everyone's. The only result of all this total information awareness so far is to find out the CIA Director was having an affair. Billions of dollars could be better spent on infrastructure.
CIA's 'Facebook' Program Dramatically Cut Agency's Costs
-- "At Microsoft, quality is job 1.1" -- PC Magazine, Nov. 1994
No, dude. The best parties provide alcohol, drugs, and strippers.
Just sayin'
I can count my friends on one hand and I don't have facebook. Only bandits, commies and women use Facebook.
Surely the law making is Congress, the Republicans, and the laws being used is the Patriot Act, Republicans.
But, hey nice misdirect. Do you work for Fox?
I hired an artist. He used fake names. He said his name was Cody Rigby. I had to send him a computer (rig). Then, he said his name was Cody Smedly. (smelly code) I decided I would not credit him for his art. He made homo art.
where family members, clergy, and doctors can put a person's name on a "suspected of being dangerous" list which prevents them from buying a gun for a full year? And now a friends-list to extend the reach further. The government is getting ready to confiscate. Then they'll round up the educated people for "relocation". The uneducated will get to continue to live... as slaves.
I don't see any homophobia (that is, fear of homosexuals) in that comment.
My friends are anyone who upholds the bill of rights. Sounds like that doesn't include anyone in the ATF.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
How far down can America's morals go? Didn't we invade a nation, destroy it's economy and culture, kill tens of thousands of it's citizens (millions, if you buy into the left-leaning hype) all because the president didn't like the other country's president? Or - was it for the oil that ended up going to China?
Morals. There are no morals to choose from in Washington.
The lefties were mad at Bush not for what he was doing, but because he was from The Other Guys(tm). He was one of the other tribe, so what he was doing was bad, and wrong, and evil and all that shit. Some people really believed this to an extreme extent. There were people saying Bush had setup FEMA death camps, would declare martial law and stop the election, that kind of thing.
Well now their guy is in power. Hence you see the same shit from the righties. All of a sudden stuff that under Bush was "necessary for our safety" and "reasonable" they are all bent out of shape and screaming about. You look around, you hear the same FEMA camp shit about Obama.
That's part of the problem is that many people have a "good guy, bad guy" view on politics right now so when their guys are doing things, those things are ok because their guys are the "good guys". That means that people who oppose things at one point will support them later.
Watch as everybody does nothing. Piece by piece - goodbye privacy hello criminal travesty.
Can't they just rent the NSA's?
Raiding FPS Russia and others with 150 men, no warrant (to my knowledge), and leaving empty handed in an attempt to find "illegal" whatever, and really it's just to try to create another standoff so they can kill the owner of the firearms and decry on TV how evil guns are, and how we need to ban them. Obama is behind that...ATF is executive.
You forgot to mention that Americans do all this while they still can't be bothered to teach their kids how to spell or punctuate.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Add this to efforts to take away guns and more... .. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House. .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
Kinda reminds me of this:
Just a quick refresher course 'lest we forget' what has happened to many "friends" of the Clintons.
1- James McDougal - Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown
3 - Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.
5 - C. Victor Raiser, II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor".
7 - Ed Willey - Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock
9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
11 - Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating MenaAirport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his inves
No, dude. The best parties provide alcohol, drugs, and naked women.
Just sayin'
TFTFY. :D
You're prejudiced against nigger atheist faggots. No KY for your chalupa.
electronic warfare, exposing sensitive people to high energy, torture
electronic warfare, when your friend list becomes a hit list.
electronic warfare, when a public official's contact, filters you out by zip code, yet same official makes decisions for everyone in entire US.
electronic warfare, when you email your representative, and get back a bullet talking point propaganda completely ignoring your issue.
electronic warfare, gps tracking without a warrant
electronic warfare, RFID
electronic warfare, smart cards
electronic warfare, seizing domain names
electronic warfare, treating copyright talks as state secrets
electronic warfare, geo-engineering
electronic warfare, ABC, CBS, FOX, PBS, NBC
electronic warfare, US Elections top to bottom, tabulators, poll books
electronic warfare, banksters
electronic warfare, surveillance
electronic warfare, smart meter, smart grid
electronic warfare, fcc's management of the public spectrum
electronic warfare, worms, virus, rootkit
electronic warfare, RoHS bulging, leaking capacitors
electronic warfare, propaganda
electronic warfare, censorship
electronic warfare, blackhat SEO
electronic warfare, DoS, DDoS
electronic warfare, phone jammers
microwaved food, irradiated food
medical, obamacare, databases
nsa database, Utah
DHS *.* unconstitutional, treasonous
Radar, FLIR
NDAA
I say they exploit anything and everything you can possibly conceive of is being exploited if it's electronic, it's full spectrum exploitation.
Or are you saying I am a liar? Which is it, are there oath breaking treasonous scum running the country or AM I A FUCKING LIAR?! I mean you better fucking check yourself, I ain't the piece of shit sending arms to al queda to fight syria over all these fucking false flag fake bullshit wars, all the while for YEARS now we warned you, NK has nukes, north korea, nk, nk nk over and fucking over. You want to call me the LIAR? Call me the terrorist? Get my rights fucked over by the DSM? Yeah let's poke sharp sticks at your children, and when you get pissed off, we'll use the DSM and fucking call you PTSD and take your weapons and rights, if not your freedom and life.
Regardless of your answer a person who want's to fight this will not have a job, an id, a home, a car, internet, electronics, they won't travel, or see a doctor, they'll be "unbanked" , and living in a cave with no friends, the Amish are one off, because you can still see them from satellite and dump poison on them from geo-engineering, nuclear fallout or frack their water supply until they're completely fucked.
oath breakers and the fucking damage they're doing from electronic warfare, over regulation, theft, treason, monetary terrorism, lies, deception, cooked books.
You or I would be hassled over transferring $10000 while these motherfuckers steal TRILLIONS. and you want to track me.
What was your oath again? To be a nazi fucking psychopath?
They obviously don't have CIA budget: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-Q-Tel or they would already be inside.
Thankfully the NSA is limited to signals intelligence. Otherwise the ATF would have a room at AT&T. http://www.spamdailynews.com/publish/ATT_tech_outs_NSA_spy_room.shtml ;-)
Thanks
"On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama used an Autopen to sign a four-year extension of three key provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act while he was in France: roving wiretaps, searches of business records (the "library records provision"), and conducting surveillance of "lone wolves" â" individuals suspected of terrorist-related activities not linked to terrorist groups."
This is an issue of freedom. As a card carrying, non pot-smoking, member of the Libertarian Party, I'm more than happy to point out the failures of Dems and Reps. Too bad people can't always see the real issue because their party politics blinds them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act
Hmmm... For Bacon to have an Erdos number, Kevin Bacon would first have had to have a paper published with co-authors who could then be linked to Erd``os. But I do not believe that Kevin Bacon has published a paper. So we're right out on an Erd``os number for KB.
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But if we consider the concept of a joint Erdos-Bacon number which is the sum of an individual's Bacon number and their Erdos number, then we might be able to go somewhere. Those individuals with joint Bacon-Erdos numbers have a vertex on the Bacon graph and a vertex on the Erdos graph, thus allowing travel between the Bacon graph and the Erdos graph. The individual with the smallest Bacon-Erdos number would then be able to provide the shortest path from Kevin Bacon on the Bacon graph to Erdos on the Paul Erdos graph.
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A quick look at the Erdos-Bacon number article on wikipedia shows that the minimal Erdos-Bacon number (in their given examples) is held by Steven Strogatz, a professor at Cornell who has Bacon number 1 and Erdos number 3 with a combined Bacon-Erdos number of 4.
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Thus you can get from (0), Kevin Bacon, who was in a film (Connected: The Power of Six Degrees) with
(1) - Steven Strogatz, who published a paper with
(2) - Nadim Ali , who published a paper with
(3) - Peter Salamon, who published a paper with
(4) - Paul Erd''os . Thus a path is drawn.