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Secret Chat Between Julian Assange and Eric Schmidt Published By WikiLeaks
New submitter milkasing writes "The Verge reports, 'Google chairman Eric Schmidt and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange secretly met in 2011 and held a lengthy interview, according to a transcript published on the whistleblowing site. The leak is surprisingly timely — Schmidt was apparently conducting research with Jared Cohen for the pair's book The New Digital Age, which is set to be released on Tuesday. Assange was under house arrest in England at the time the five-hour conversation took place. The conversation is a fascinating look into the minds of the two men, both of whom have had immeasurable impact on issues surrounding technology over recent years."
A corrupt slashdot luser has pentrated the moderation system to downmod all my posts while impersonating me.
Nearly 230++ times that I know of @ this point for all of March/April 2013 so far, & others here have told you to stop - take the hint, lunatic (leave slashdot)...
Sorry folks - but whoever the nutjob is that's attempting to impersonate me, & upset the rest of you as well, has SERIOUS mental issues, no questions asked! I must've gotten the better of him + seriously "gotten his goat" in doing so in a technical debate & his "geek angst" @ losing to me has him doing the:
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A.) $10,000 challenges, ala (where the imposter actually TRACKED + LISTED the # of times he's done this no less, & where I get the 230 or so times I noted above) -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3585795&cid=43285307
&/or
B.) Reposting OLD + possibly altered models - (this I haven't checked on as to altering the veracity of the info. being changed) of posts of mine from the past here
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(Albeit massively repeatedly thru all threads on /. this March/April 2013 nearly in its entirety thusfar).
* Personally, I'm surprised the moderation staff here hasn't just "blocked out" his network range yet honestly!
(They know it's NOT the same as my own as well, especially after THIS post of mine, which they CAN see the IP range I am coming out of to compare with the ac spamming troll doing the above...).
APK
P.S.=> Again/Stressing it: NO guys - it is NOT me doing it, as I wouldn't waste that much time on such trivial b.s. like a kid might...
Plus, I only post where hosts file usage is on topic or appropriate for a solution & certainly NOT IN EVERY POST ON SLASHDOT (like the nutcase trying to "impersonate me" is doing for nearly all of March/April now, & 230++ times that I know of @ least)... apk
P.S.=> here is CORRECT host file information just to piss off the insane lunatic troll:
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21++ ADVANTAGES OF CUSTOM HOSTS FILES (how/what/when/where/why):
Over AdBlock & DNS Servers ALONE 4 Security, Speed, Reliability, & Anonymity (to an extent vs. DNSBL's + DNS request logs).
1.) HOSTS files are useable for all these purposes because they are present on all Operating Systems that have a BSD based IP stack (even ANDROID) and do adblocking for ANY webbrowser, email program, etc. (any webbound program). A truly "multi-platform" UNIVERSAL solution for added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs + DNSBL's you feel are unjust hosts get you past/around).
2.) Adblock blocks ads? Well, not anymore & certainly not as well by default, apparently, lol - see below:
Adblock Plus To Offer 'Acceptable Ads' Option
http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/12/12/2213233/adblock-plus-to-offer-acceptable-ads-option )
AND, in only browsers & their subprogram families (ala email like Thunderbird for FireFox/Mozilla products (use same gecko & xulrunner engines)), but not all, or, all independent email clients, like Outlook, Outlook Express, OR Window "LIVE" mail (for example(s)) - there's many more like EUDORA & others I've used over time that AdBlock just DOES NOT COVER... period.
Disclaimer: Opera now also has an AdBlock addon (now that Opera has addons above widgets), but I am not certain the same people make it as they do for FF or Chrome etc..
3.) Adblock doesn't protect email programs external to FF (non-mozilla/gecko engine based) family based wares, So AdBlock doesn't protect email programs like Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows "LIVE" mail & others like them (EUDORA etc./et al), Hosts files do. THIS IS GOOD VS. SPAM M
Generic comment including something about it.
"If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place" - Eric Schmidt
What a great guy!
Name one thing Julian Assange has done that had immeasurable impact on issues surrounding technology over recent years.
I thought so, you can't because he has done nothing.
It's a publication. Assange reserved the right to view/review/approve the transcript and presumably is doing this for the benefit of both sides. It benefits Assange that he gets to publish the precise transcript to rebut any criticism that they talked about anything else. Schmidt gains the same protection (ZOMG Google Chief Talks To Known Criminal About... What?) and also some pre-launch publicity. This interview is presumably not the underpinning of his entire book, nor featured in entirety as an excerpt, so it's not a leak of the content of the book either.
that was some crazy motherfucking scrawl there bro
am I impersonating you too since I'm posting from an AC
Excellent, if there's any other rapists hiding from the law I hope Slashdot lets us know when he releases promotional material on his website.
Slashdot: providing anti-social weirdos a soapbox, since 1997.
TL;DR
Eric, you better have a get away backpack ready (or at least a billion bucks in bribes).
You can't handle the truth.
...how long it would take before Eric Schmidt said something that made me facepalm. Accidentally referring to TOR as "Thor" in the very first topic he brought up was bad, but not bad enough. Admitting right after that that he doesn't really understand what it is or how it works? In 2011? Just two months after stepping down as the CEO of Google? Facepalm.
"... immeasurable impact on issues surrounding technology..."
What "immeasurable impact"? Google made a better search engine. Nice, but big deal. What ELSE have they done to "impact technology"? Google+? No. Gmail? No new technology there. Google Docs? They bought it, they didn't invent it. Google Apps? Others did similar things, they just weren't as big. Google Earth? Microsoft beat them to it by quite a few years. Google Maps? An incremental improvement in existing technology. (Google Earth + GIS.) Adsense? An extension of existing technology.
I will grant that Google Translate was something new. But most of Google's "technology" is about as much invention as somebody who welds a can opener to a pair of pliers: it might not be an obvious thing to do but it's hardly "new technology".
http://xkcd.com/834/
Completed the first half of TFA. It is indeed fascinating.
Fascinating to know Julian Assange...his technical know how and philosophical underpinnings make him one of the foremost thinkers of our world. The way Assange connects geo-political issues, the ideas behind publishing, instant publishing to the basic design of Wikileaks is brilliant. (We have to put aside his issues in Sweden.)
Erich Schmidt comes across as a better version of Steve Ballmer. It would have been interesting if Larry Page / Sergey Brin had a conversation with Assange...they would be more interesting and the conversation would not be completely one sided.
Tat Tvam Asi
It seems that Julian Assange is a hardcore Bitcoin fanboy... he spent about a third of his interview talking about it.
That said, if he took his own advice and invested heavily in Bitcoin back in 2011 when they were less than a $1 each, he'd be a wealthy guy right now.
The way he insensately interrupts other people is beyond belief.
What has Assange done for technologies over the previous years, all he did was publish edited parts of some so called secret documents nothing more, nothing less?
"The conversation is a fascinating look into the minds of the two men, both of whom have had immeasurable impact on issues surrounding technology over recent years."
BS. Eric Schmidt has had an impact on technology. Julian Assange has been a pioneer in whistleblowing and avoiding incarceration. Let's not make Assange a technology genius just because we're bored and have nothing interesting to say.
Dude, you're not the only one who can post as AC!! They're not trying to impersonate you. That's just how the system works. Everybody can be AC.
Fun drinking game...take a shot every time Eric Schmidt says, "That's interesting!"
This reads like a personal 'TED' talk from Assange to Schmidt. What I glean, more than anything, is that Eric Schmidt doesn't know WTF he is doing from a technical perspective. Not qualified to run a data center let alone all of Google. It seems he is the type of leader that just accepts what he is told by others.
FTA:
JA: you know about Bitcoin?
ES: No.
JA: Okay, Bitcoin is something that evolved out of the cypherpunks a couple of years ago, and it is an alternative... it is a stateless currency.
Thank you Dave Raggett
$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski
* POOR SHOWING TROLLS, & most especially IF that's the "best you've got" - apparently, it is... lol!
Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.
Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?
Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.
If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.
I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.
Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.
Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.
I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.
If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!
You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusiv
I'll grant you that Assange thinks he's reinventing the wheel and high off his own 'innovation' fumes...but that doesn't justify your flame/troll tone...
It's obvious Assange overestimates himself. He talks about Wikileaks like it is the new internet and Neo from the Matrix.
From a technical perspective, innovation rhetoric aside, Assange is a journalist. Nothing more nothing less. He distributes information to a general audience chosen to be of particular interest.
Assange himself is probably best described as a news blog publisher/editor.
Thank you Dave Raggett
They **do** have to have a working knowledge of the product of the company.
You're giving Eric Schmidt a pass...he doesn't deserve it. He should have a grasp of these concepts enough to make decisions about resource allocation. That means a systemic-level understanding, not all details.
We need to demand CEO's have core competency...weird as it is to say that, it's true. "management" is only part of the picture of leading a company.
Thank you Dave Raggett
You are giving the CEO position a pass on their core responsibility. He has to make decisions...among competing groups within Google. Different divisions **all want more** and he has to allocate that scarcity.
If he does not have the basic competency to think critically about what his advisors tell him, he's a figurehead idiot. He will be at the whims of whoever holds his attention more not who needs the resources.
Just because many CEO's operate like this doesn't mean we should accept it.
Thank you Dave Raggett
Despite the comments who pick on the Iacocca example (not familiar with that) Schmidt is remarkably technical for a CEO (former Sun CTO with a T) which is really rare. TOR was not something that would be interesting to him, they are doing big data, search mobile and many other things that he needs to understand. TOR would be just general knowledge for a guy who does more than most of us do every day.
I would appreciate Assange and what he does more if Wikileaks wasn't simply about the US. There are other governments which could use his form of activism.
brrrrrrrrrppp 'Ey Homer...Why don't girls like me?
Well, this timely leak should help sales of the book.
The extradition rulings were SOLELY about whether the extradition order was correctly completed. NOTHING ELSE.
1) It was signed by the prosecutor and not a judge as was intended, but it was accepted anyway.
2) The claims by **by the prosecutor** were claims that allowed extradition, but nothing about whether the claims were valid was addressed (this is why it was intended to be done by a judge not the prosecutor: judges judge the criminal culpability, prosecutors just make claims).
APK, you suck. Go die in a fire. The hosts file in Windows is a _terrible_ way to filter internet traffic.
...let alone a coffee stand. The guy sounds like a moron. I sort of know the answer which is he's probably decent at the Wall Street / Davos / TED schmozzing to get the stock price up. But really he got paid jillions for being a dumb-ass ?
It's too big!! Reallyt and too far reaching. It's multi-topical but all very interesting.
When he was in Sweden, these accusations were made, he went to the police station and gave his statement and then they dropped the case. He asked if he was free to leave and told "yes".
He left.
And then he was to be arrested on an extradition order WHICH WAS NOT supposed to be issued for merely wanting him for *questioning*, but only if he were *guilty*.
He fled from this extradition order, NOT from an accusation of rape.
He assumes that journalism and the media can solve problems. This is a flaw because just revealing problems doesn't solve it and sometimes revealing problems causes only more problems.
He assumes everyone can do something about the problems once they are revealed when in actuality only certain people can do anything about these sorts of problems.
He assumes that information should be used to create just behavior but just behavior is subjective, and we cannot always agree on that.
So perhaps he has the right intentions but the implementation of Wikileaks is a flawed design. It's not decentralized enough because he's the center of it which is why he was so easily shut down. There is no international authority to bring war crimes or human rights abuse to who can do much about it. Do we give the documents to Interpol or what? Don't we need some International enforcement authority or police agency who can actually bring justice or consequences?
Just releasing information to the media often does not help. It encourages terrorism, vigilantism, and unorganized acts of violence in some instances and in other instances it merely causes a greater crack down on civil liberties. Cablegate accomplished nothing other than embarrassing the US government from what I can see. It did not reveal any human rights abuses, it did not save any lives, it did not prevent any wars. Had there been human rights abuses then releasing the information to the media would not have stopped it. The media had images of torture and we've all seen those images but torture hasn't been stopped has it?
We have seen war images going back to Vietnam but that hasn't stopped Iraq did it? The media or fourth estate actually has very limited power in the USA for example. You can go to the media about something, millions of people can know it's happening, and they can't do a damn thing about it.
It would be better to take that information to an International force that can fight corruption using police powers and the ability to arrest war criminals. Why isn't this possible? Could it be that the USA has already corrupted the UN? And we can't take it to the FBI because the FBI is a nationalist organization which cares more about protecting the status quo and which is certainly corrupt as is proven by cases like Robert Hanssen.
A new organization seeking to replace Wikileaks has to be completely decentralized and it needs an International enforcement mechanism connected to the UN who can enforce and defend the human rights of anyone anywhere in any nation. When that happens then it will make sense to give information about human rights abuses, war crimes and other particulars to that organization. Stuff like Cablegate does not protect any human rights or prevent war crimes or do anything from what I can see. Maybe the Wikileaks supporters are seeing something in it that I can't see.
What went wrong with Julian Assange is his implementation and his naive conceptualizations.
The ideals are right, we do need a way to prevent human rights abuses, to save lives, to fight corruption. I just don't think Wikileaks is properly set up to do that.
I don't think the media or journalists can do that. I think giving that information to the general public who is completely powerless and can do nothing to stop it doesn't really change a damn thing but it makes governments paranoid and makes them crack down.
There has to be a global currency and Bitcoin accomplishes that. There has to be a global policing authority and that is the part which is missing from all this. All the policing authorities are run by corrupt nationalists. They are all nationalists so there is no police to go to for enforcement with this information. The media and the civilians might care about human rights and care about solving these problems but the local police aren't capable of dealing with it and the national police such as the FBI or whatever aren't motivated or capable of dealing with this. In fact the FBI would probably be directly opposed to it.
So where exactly can this information be given where there is a reasonable guarantee that actions will be taken? Just putting it out there for public record or to give people a trove of information to gawk at is not exactly solving anything. It's making things worse because embarrassment leads to paranoia which leads to more crackdowns and nothing changes for the people who suffer. Julian Assange simply cannot help, and Wikileaks cannot help, at least not in any of the highly technological nations like the US. The only thing which could help in the US is for an international agency to start arresting people based on leaked information.
Actually he spent time discussing the merits of using the technology in bitcoin to assist anonymity - using a decay in value over time etc. He also mentioned there are shortcomings in that it can be hacked, as it has been, making it more unstable.
Wikileaks wants to release information to the media under the false assumption that there are some good guy heroes somewhere who can do something about it.
The problem is there aren't any organizations who can do anything about it. First in order to build such an organization you need to go to the UN and find a way to get it funded. When you do that the bad people in the US, China, Russia and other nations will join forces to prevent you from being able to fund your International enforcement organization.
Without that kind of organization Wikileaks is not only defenseless but all it's supporters are defenseless as well. The corrupt local and national police can have any Wikileaks supporter arrested for nearly any reason. It's not hard to make someone look like a sex offender, there are informants everywhere and undercover cops everywhere. Wikileaks releases information to the public and realizes the public is powerless but underestimates how powerless. The public cannot do anything at all to stop corrupt law enforcement if that law enforcement decides to make political arrests, or set people up to look guilty for political law enforcement reasons.
And what International agency can these people go to for protection? What International police exist to arrest corrupt local or national police in countries like the USA, or China, or Russia? You're a journalist in Russia and you're risking your life. You're a journalist in the USA and you're risking your reputation and freedom.
While you might die in Russia, in the USA you might find yourself suddenly accused of rape, or some sex offense. The result is the total destruction of the life of the individual. Journalists are effectively powerless. The only way this will change is through an International organization with the power to arrest people on US soil and that isn't going to be allowed to happen so what exactly can the media do?
Both are excellent. Google drive is excellent too.
hello Jeremiah cornelius http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3581857&cid=43276741
You are better off setting up upstream DNS server on router and use hosts file on that, but you are bound to memory on router.
I actually run secret upstream DNS server with hosts file built in. I will send you teh codez if you want. You mearly need to set IP settings to point to the public IP.
See, this is what gets my hackles up!
Those are not the only two options. You can have core competency and still be a manager. Also, it'd be nice if a good number of management came up from production...
Used to be in America, in high level business you could expect your manager knew the basics of the entire system, and had probably done your job at some point.
Thank you Dave Raggett
You should have read more. First, bitcoin's workings were just one of a litany of things that Assange elucidated that got Schmidt all fanboi
Second. You didn't read the basics of Bitcoin that's for sure:
"In 2009, the bitcoin network came into existence with the release of the first open source bitcoin client and the issuance of the first bitcoins.[9][22][23][24]
2010
The initial prices for bitcoins were set by individuals on the bitcointalk forums. The most significant transaction involved a 10,000 BTC pizza.[9] The Mt.Gox bitcoin exchange was soon established."
Full article and sources here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin
Here's a /. from 2009 on Bitcoin V.3 release: http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/07/11/1747245/bitcoin-releases-version-03
Bitcoin had been in the news for awhile. Schmidt should have at least know of its existence and the basics of how it works.
Thank you Dave Raggett
This is a flaw because just revealing problems doesn't solve it and sometimes revealing problems causes only more problems.
Knowing about a problem is a necessary prerequisite to solving it. Your post is meandering and logically flawed.
The enemy knowing what you know can help them to take actions to prevent you from solving it. Telling the media alerts the same people the events are about which can make alert those people to merely do a better job at being corrupt. They aren't going to change their behavior because of a bad news article.
Keep embarassing yourself Jeremiah Cornelius http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3581857&cid=43276741 since you posted that using your registered username by mistake (instead of your usual anonymous coward submissions by the 100's the past 2-3 months now on slashdot) giving away it's you spamming this forums almost constantly, just as you have in the post I just replied to.
Erin Burnett did for 10 minutes.
Schmidt might have co-written Lex. But if you read TFA, you realize he does not even know TOR and the idea behind TOR - probably the most important invention in internet and communication methodologies. This is stupid.
I guess Schmidt should turn in his geek card, and as a champion supporter you should also join.
Tat Tvam Asi
TOR and the idea behind TOR - probably the most important invention in internet and communication methodologies
The most important invention in Internet and communication methodologies? You've got to be kidding. It's neither new (I ran a Mixmaster anonymous remailer for years; same concept, just a higher level in the stack), nor particularly influential.
Note to ACs: I usually delete AC replies without reading them. If you want to talk to me, log in.
Immeasurable impact on issues surrounding technology over recent years
I suppose you could say that - I certainly haven't been able to measure the impact mr Assange has had on technology. He was in the news, but so were the "megastars" from Big Brothel. And like them, he has now faded away into obscurity.
You don't think there are other more important Internet/communication inventions than Tor? Think lower... Hypertext, TCP, UDP, IP... Ethernet, Radio, Fiber-optics. Other stuff that is really cool, that I don't even know about. Tor is interesting in our times because privacy is currently struggling in the face of technology. But IMHO it's not nearly as earth-shattering as the stuff it's built upon.
" both of whom have had immeasurable impact on issues surrounding technology over recent years."" Eric Schmidt is just some guy the VC suits FORCED on Larry and Sergei when Google was trying to get funding. Larry and Sergei DRAGGED THEIR FEET and delayed capitulating to this "adult supervision" requirement as long as they could. Since Eric Schmidt is basically just a stand issue schmuck without insight, without vision, they figured they'd be able to "get along" with him - read: roll over him on all important decisions, and they were right. Schmidt spent his time cheating on his wife ( who is well compensated and probably a little relieved) and chasing after 10s of the sort that had ignored him in high school, but now needed help with their coke addictions, taking them to Burning Man, playing the role of Dr. Strangelove then paying for their rehab No, seriously. http://gawker.com/5475332/ http://gawker.kinja.com/5499121/photos-google-ceo-eric-schmidt-at-burning-man-with-his-ex+mistress Schmidt is the guy with a knack for the anti-quote - things Google would wish he'd never said, oh like "With your permission you give us more information about you, about your friends, and we can improve the quality of our searches [...] We don't need you to type at all. We know where you are. We know where you've been. We can more or less know what you're thinking about." and ""If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place." and " "most people don't want Google to answer their questions. . . . They want Google to tell them what they should be doing next." and "One day we had a conversation where we figured we could just try to predict the stock market. And then we decided it was illegal. So we stopped doing that." Even the curated collection of things which appear on quotes pages like this one and presumably are intended to show him in his best light merely range from the pedestrian: " Success is really about being ready for the good opportunities that come before you. It's not to have a detailed plan of everything that you're going to do. You can't plan innovation or inspiration, but you can be ready for it, and when you see it, you can jump on it. " and "We have an opportunity for everyone in the world to have access to all the world's information. This has never before been possible. Why is ubiquitous information so profound? It's a tremendous equalizer. Information is power. " to the weird: "A mind set in its ways is wasted. Don't do it. " "If you forgo your plan, you also have to forgo fear. " to the creepy: "In a world where everything is remembered and everything is kept forever, you need to live for the future and things you really care about." This guy and the pile of money that's been shoved under him is the ultimate expression of the American elites' fear of everything which is not mediocre, not "regular" , not tame and predictable. They couldn't have the brains of Google also presume to be the captains of Google because who knows what kind of idealistic fantasies they might become obsessed with and worse, actually realize. You can read all about how Eric "Lucky" Schmidt washed up on the shore of Tropical Paradise Google and all the other details in Ken Auletta's book . It's just as I described. http://www.amazon.com/Googled-End-World-As-Know/dp/0143118048
" both of whom have had immeasurable impact on issues surrounding technology over recent years.""
Eric Schmidt is just some guy the VC suits FORCED on Larry and Sergei when Google was trying to get funding. Larry and Sergei DRAGGED THEIR FEET and delayed capitulating to this "adult supervision" requirement as long as they could. Since Eric Schmidt is basically just a stand issue schmuck without insight, without vision, they figured they'd be able to "get along" with him - read: roll over him on all important decisions, and they were right.
Schmidt spent his time cheating on his wife ( who is well compensated and probably a little relieved) and chasing after 10s of the sort that had ignored him in high school, but now needed help with their coke addictions, taking them to Burning Man, playing the role of Dr. Strangelove then paying for their rehab
No, seriously.
http://gawker.com/5475332/
http://gawker.kinja.com/5499121/photos-google-ceo-eric-schmidt-at-burning-man-with-his-ex+mistress
Schmidt is the guy with a knack for the anti-quote - things Google would wish he'd never said, oh like
"With your permission you give us more information about you, about your friends, and we can improve the quality of our searches [...] We don't need you to type at all. We know where you are. We know where you've been. We can more or less know what you're thinking about."
and
""If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place."
and
" "most people don't want Google to answer their questions. . . . They want Google to tell them what they should be doing next."
and
"One day we had a conversation where we figured we could just try to predict the stock market. And then we decided it was illegal. So we stopped doing that."
Even the curated collection of things which appear on quotes pages like this one and presumably are intended to show him in his best light merely range from the pedestrian:
" Success is really about being ready for the good opportunities that come before you. It's not to have a detailed plan of everything that you're going to do. You can't plan innovation or inspiration, but you can be ready for it, and when you see it, you can jump on it. "
and
"We have an opportunity for everyone in the world to have access to all the world's information. This has never before been possible. Why is ubiquitous information so profound? It's a tremendous equalizer. Information is power. "
to the weird:
"A mind set in its ways is wasted. Don't do it. "
"If you forgo your plan, you also have to forgo fear. "
to the creepy:
"In a world where everything is remembered and everything is kept forever, you need to live for the future and things you really care about."
This guy and the pile of money that's been shoved under him is the ultimate expression of the American elites' fear of everything which is not mediocre, not "regular" , not tame and predictable. They couldn't have the brains of Google also presume to be the captains of Google because who knows what kind of idealistic fantasies they might become obsessed with and worse, actually realize.
You can read all about how Eric "Lucky" Schmidt washed up on the shore of Tropical Paradise Google and all the other details in Ken Auletta's book . It's just as I described.
http://www.amazon.com/Googled-End-World-As-Know/dp/0143118048
Shut up, Paul.
a link to some random google analytics of words searched doesn't mean shit
people like you are a pox upon data analysis...the hilariously sad truth is that most people think like you...some even run their country based on some fucking graph of data that gets shoved in their face between fundraising...
Thank you Dave Raggett
see, he just has to **be aware** that it exists and the basics of how it works
you understand that, right? it takes a matter of minutes for an intelligent technical professional to understand Bitcoin...
a matter of minutes...so you're argument fails.
just accept that Google's CEO is kind of an airhead...it's not like he's your fucking child
Thank you Dave Raggett
Tor is a million miles off the radar if his job is running google.
for fuck's sake...I'm talking of being aware of a thing like Bitcoin. AWARE IT EXISTS and basics of HOW IT WORKS
cuss people are stupid sometimes!
i'm not saying he has to be CEO of Tor and Bitcoin...he just needs to know they exist and how they work. a tech professional could accomplish that in a matter of minutes.
Thank you Dave Raggett
your 3 points are all technically valid, but they are all red herrings...
my point, the point that proved you wrong about Schmidt, is that the 'either/or' context of 'manager/tech' is dumb and a gross oversimplifiction
it is a false equivalence
**working knowledge** and **understanding basics** and **professional awareness** are mandatory for a CEO to make decisions
Thank you Dave Raggett
"He assumes everyone can do something about the problems once they are revealed when in actuality only certain people can do anything about these sorts of problems."
Who are these certain people that are the only ones that can do anything about certain problems? Can you give some examples?
"He assumes that information should be used to create just behavior but just behavior is subjective, and we cannot always agree on that."
No, he explicitly states that it's subjective, but that he believes just behaviour arises from the ability to both provide transparency (i.e. whistleblow safely), and act on objective information (i.e. not manipulated by biased media).
"We have seen war images going back to Vietnam but that hasn't stopped Iraq did it? The media or fourth estate actually has very limited power in the USA for example. You can go to the media about something, millions of people can know it's happening, and they can't do a damn thing about it."
I think the problem is you're making the very human mistake of expecting things to happen on your timescale, but the world, the universe doesn't work on our timescales, it's much bigger than that.
You suggest that nothing has been done because of Vietnam, because of Iraq, but I don't think that's true. I think international and national disgust for what happened with Iraq has crippled Americas ability to carry out similar wars. Public understanding of how flawed the Iraq war was across the globe has caused America's international reputation to absolutely plummet making it hard for it to justify much military action. If Iraq had never happened and it's international reputation remained at pre-War on Terror levels I suspect America would've hit Iran and intervened in Syria now. Since the intervention in Iraq, US intervention overseas has been massively limited, to simply providing support in places like Libya where there was vast international support and only really Russia as a major player aired distaste for it, but didn't outright block it at the UN.
It's about political capital, and political capital is something you gain by doing things that are popular, and lose by doing things that are unpopular. Political capital doesn't exist as a tangible currency, but exists in the form of international opinion weighted on different components of the individual - for example, if just the population of Fiji objected to America intervening in Syria they wouldn't care, if it was the population of Russia they'd listen a little bit more, and if it was there allies - the EU, then they'd listen much much more again. The problem with Iraq is that even nearly all their allies were against it, and that's why it cost so much in political capital to go ahead with it, and that's why America has yet to regain the political capital required to do that again.
But here is, where I think, Assange is concerned - he is concerned that whilst political capital expenditure on things like the war in Iraq are transparent and open for the world to make up their own mind, other things are not. For example, America deserved to suffer a loss in political capital for extraordinary rendition, and for waterboarding, but it tried to keep these things secret - whistleblowing on these issues so that they were discovered ensured that the correct political expenditure was made to limit the possibility of repeating this sort of thing.
Consider the hypothetical scenario that the conspiracy theorists were right, and that Obama did order that the CIA give Hugo Chavez his cancer - if that was kept hidden Obama could carry on as is, as if nothing had happened, but if a whistleblower leaked evidence that it was true, then this would destroy Obama's remaining political capital and possibly see him removed from office. It would deter any president from ever doing anything like that again any time soon.
You see, it's not about any one individual, it's about making sure information is known so that global opinion, although subjective for each individual, can be a reasonable measure of the legitimacy of an action, or leader, but for that to be possible, the world population has to be informed, they have to know the facts, and it is for that reason that Assange sees whistleblowing as important.
TOR and ODIN both have wide reaching implications and everyone in technology (at this point) should be aware. They both will eventually impact every user of mobile or wired internet. I challenge VentureBeat to do some more in depth coverage as I have been reading about these two for a while now on the net, and I am starting to think tech people, especially managers and infrastructure people, should at least be aware of them.
It is likely they both will emerge as an issue for corporate infrastructure one of two ways (IMO): Corporations/non-governmental entities will want to implement these network systems—or they will have to respond to the reaction from ‘black hat’ internet forces (which will no doubt clog the internet with nasty stuff—regardless of whether they are resisting the technology or grafting it for their own means).
You have brushed an important and "under-reported" topic...please dig deeper. http://goo.gl/WrCLD
ES needs to grow a pair. http://goo.gl/UTDC9
"The hosts file in Windows is a _terrible_ way to filter internet traffic." - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 24, 2013 @01:08PM
You failed on THAT very account, here -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3674733&cid=43530007
* :)
(HOWEVER & "where are my manners"? Well - Thank-You for making ME look GOOD in the link I posted above, as per YOUR usual!)
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You know, out of respect for "tradition" - how you ALWAYS "fail" vs. myself?
Well, you just KNOW that I've just GOTTA say it (as-is-per-my-usual vs. failing trolls on /., like yourself):
THIS?
This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'"... lmao!
APK
P.S.=>
"APK, you suck." - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 24, 2013 @01:08PM
After the link above I posted in this reply to you where I tore your tired b.s. apart, point-by-"so called 'point'" on your part, with YOU failing like you did? Please... lol!
(Face it: YOU WISH YOU WERE ME!)
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"Go die in a fire." - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 24, 2013 @01:08PM
No thanks... HOWEVER: I do TRULY think that YOU ought to take your OWN advice!
(Especially after that link above, lol, since you TRULY "BURNED YOURSELF" there, trying to "get the better of" your betters (me))...
... apk
"You are better off setting up upstream DNS server on router and use hosts file on that, but you are bound to memory on router." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 19, 2013 @05:47PM (#43498681)
That's actually NOT a "bad idea" because it offloads the RAM usage on a computer (once a hosts is cached in RAM by either the faulty with larger custom hosts files local dns clientside caching service OR by the local kernelmode diskcaching subsystem (that caches hosts file data when you have to turn off the faulty dns clientside cache service)).
Yes, you are correct that you'd be "memory-bound" on router memory limits (& NOT all routers have rules tables for that either, OR demand custom firmware mods)... but, it's also a way (other than doing it on a system that houses a DNS server program - most run in RPL 3/Ring 3/usermode though, vs. custom hosts merely acting as a filter for the IP stack itself in Ring 0/RPL 0/kernelmode - fastest mode of operations possible for software on a PC).
A DNS server program WILL respond to & obey blocks (or hardcodes for speed to favorite sites too) in custom hosts files, so yes/again - that IS a valid idea.
I just don't waste CPU cycles, RAM, & other forms of I/O that DNS servers (which waste a lot more power/electricity as a separate 'upstream machine' especially) or even DNS server programs running on a SINGLE system the way I do it... "less moving parts" complexity MY way, too!
HOWEVER:
I don't "hate" DNS servers!
In fact - I use them myself (since I don't attempt to resolve 'every host-domain there is online' via hosts, only my favorites @ the top of the file, 20 of them, which beats hashtable indexing or b-tree binary seeks past 2++ million records no less).
I use specialized REMOTE (not locally here as a separate redundant wasteful recursive server or even as a service/daemon) FILTERING DNS SERVERS that help block out malicious sites/servers/hosts-domains via DNSBLs:
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Norton DNS:
http://setup.nortondns.com/
198.153.192.1
198.153.194.1
198.153.192.60
198.153.194.60
198.153.192.50
198.153.194.50
198.153.192.40
198.153.194.40
OpenDNS:
http://www.opendns.com/home-solutions/
208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220
ScrubIT DNS:
http://scrubit.com/
67.138.54.100
207.225.209.66
Comodo Secure DNS:
http://www.comodo.com/secure-dns/switch/windows_vista.html
8.26.56.26
8.20.247.2
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ALL in layered formation in both my network connection AND my Cisco/LinkSys stateful packet inspecting router.
(Again - for the concept of "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth": The best thing we have going currently vs. malicious threats online & otherwise...)
APK
P.S.=> DNS also has KNOWN BIG ISSUES - ones I like to avoid by setting one up in recursive mode (which you DO have to do for them to update/be current) locally here either as a separate system OR even a single program on a single system (especially the unpatched for 1/2 a decade++ now "Kaminsky flaw" from ISP's especially, which also take longer for IP Address resolutions of host-domain names too mind you)... here is a list of SOME of them for your reference:
A DNS FLAWS LIST OVER TIME FOR REFERENCE (only partial):
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DNS flaw reanimates slain evil sites as ghost domains: -> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/16/ghost_domains_dns_vuln/
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BIND vs. what the Chinese are doing to DNS lately?: -> http://yro.slashdot.org/st
THIS is why he's doing it & proof of it, here -> http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3585927&cid=43295193 when others pointed out Jeremiah Cornelius forgot to submit one of the "first post spams" masquerading as myself as AC, & mistakenly submitted one of the impersonations of myself as his registered 'luser' name here on /. forums.
Pretty pitiful actually, but like every up to no good idiot does? He screwed up & submitted it under his registered 'luser' name here.
* Jeremiah Cornelius: DO YOURSELF, and the rest of us, A GIANT FAVOR MAN: Seek professional psychiatric help!
(Since Jeremiah Cornelius obviously can't get over the fact he made a spelling error on what it is HE ALLEGEDLY DID FOR A LIVING? That's not MY fault... it's HIS!)
APK
P.S.=> I seriously must have dusted JC (in his mind @ least) for his BAD spelling error & it "got his goat"...
I.E.-> Catching what he claimed to do as a job, for YEARS he left "PENETRATION" (correct) spelled as "PENTRATION" (incorrect) on his resume on LinkedIn & I pointed it out as he & his friends trolled me as usual (webmistressrachel, gmhowell, & crew (probably ALL JC no doubt using alterate emails or TOR to do it as a possible - I've caught "them & theirs" doing it before, ala Barbara, not Barbie = TomHudson (same person))).
So THAT is what has gotten his goat in a technical debate & his "geek angst" could only come up with *trying* to "impersonate me" in every news thread on /. for the month of March 2013 so far!
(Just to attempt to 'discredit me' as a spammer here obviously)
Doing so, by posting that "$10,000 challenge" &/or reposts of my old posts on hosts file value to end users into EVERY SINGLE NEWS ARTICLE POSTED on /. ...
It's all I can think of that *might* cause such a mentally troubled 'reaction' like the Jeremiah Cornelius is doing & there's NO QUESTION he's the one doing this spamming of nearly every posted article masquerading as myself...!
... apk