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Pearson Vue Now On Day 5 of Massive Outage

Reader Patrick In Chicago is one of a few readers to write with this unpleasant news: "Computer-based testing provider Pearson Vue is now in day 5 of a global outage, preventing test-takers worldwide from sitting for exams. I was personally turned away from a Cisco exam on Wednesday morning because Pearson was unable to deliver. Countless people have posted to Pearson Vue's Facebook page detailing various states of panic. There are people who have certifications expiring. Others are unable to sit their medical board exams. Still others are unable to sit exams that they are required to pass in order to work — Pearson Vue's incompetence has actually prevented people from going out and making a paycheck." This reminds me of a friend of mine who had to wait half a year to re-take his bar exam, because of a software glitch on the part of ExamSoft's software.

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  1. qualitay by chriscappuccio · · Score: 1

    quality software strikes again!

    1. Re:qualitay by ackthpt · · Score: 1

      quality software strikes again!

      It's not that -- the problem is there are found to be between 10 and 20 Klingons sitting each exam.

      i remember this happening in our registration system

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    2. Re: qualitay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Klingons, setting quietly in front of computers taking tests with bat'leths neetly leaning against the side of the desk.

      You owe me a new phone!

    3. Re:qualitay by edumacator · · Score: 3, Funny

      If only the people who wrote the test could have taken a test to prove their competence.

    4. Re:qualitay by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1

      quality software strikes again!

      Pearson VUE is a SharePoint site.

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    5. Re:qualitay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which part of "Microsoft Product" did you not understand?

    6. Re:qualitay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As an ex-employee, I can say that VUE does not run Sharepoint for the test centers.

    7. Re:qualitay by virgnarus · · Score: 1

      Hey, maybe the holdup is because they are trying to take it, but are stuck in an endless loop!

    8. Re:qualitay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I'm glad we have such rock solid proof!

  2. Reminds you of ExamSoft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How, exactly?
    Bar exam versus IT cert? Something required to practice law versus a shitty certification?
    Software glitch versus global outage?
    Wow. Just, wow.
    Yeah, it reminds me of this one time my hard drive crashed at work, and I was down for 2 hours while IT installed a new one with a fresh image.

    1. Re:Reminds you of ExamSoft? by postbigbang · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Could be deeper than your trolling presumes. Consider that this outage comes after some of their exams were found to be scoring incorrectly. Perhaps what you're seeing is an actual (don't hold your breath) audit going on, as tests are vetted..... who knows, perhaps for the first time.

      Would it change outcomes? We may never know. Too bad that they're not on the front line, trying to explain the outage after the first few hours. Perhaps there is chaos in the backroom, perhaps someone dug up their data lines with a trencher, but we just don't know. Perhaps a PR firm might be useful at this point, but when you're a cash cow, you need no PR. Right?

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    2. Re:Reminds you of ExamSoft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      one may lead to a valuable contribution to society and ones a shitty product
      hint bar exams the latter

    3. Re:Reminds you of ExamSoft? by tonysg · · Score: 1

      The NCEES, the organization in charge of testing Engineers and Land Surveyors for their licensing is moving on 2014 to computer based testing for the Fundamentals Exam. The NCEES has quite a pull, so it could be an audit. I hope that this doesn't happen while the NCEES begins the testing period next year.

    4. Re:Reminds you of ExamSoft? by phorm · · Score: 1

      Consider that this outage comes after some of their exams were found to be scoring incorrectly

      Not just scoring. When I took the LPIC exam, some of the ("correct" answers to) questions were either very misleading or just factually incorrect. Mostly, this was due to the test being massively out-of-date, but still having answers based on extremely dated versions of Linux.

  3. UK Driving License by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Pearson Vue also administer the theory component of the UK driving test.

    It's not mentioned in TFA, does anybody know if there were affected also?

    1. Re:UK Driving License by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yup, there's a bug in there which tells everyone taking the test to drive on the wrong side of the road!

    2. Re:UK Driving License by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      ...which isn't half as bad as the time it told only the trucks to drive on the wrong side of the road.

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    3. Re:UK Driving License by edumacator · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wait...which is the wrong side?

    4. Re:UK Driving License by David_W · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The side that isn't right, clearly.

    5. Re:UK Driving License by edumacator · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of course. Your right.

    6. Re:UK Driving License by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Pearson Vue also administer the theory component of the UK driving test."

      Wait... What???

      How much "theory" do you need to know in order to drive in the UK? Do you have to explain how Ackerman Steering works, or what?

    7. Re:UK Driving License by sootman · · Score: 1

      A very old bug, and marked: WONTFIX.

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    8. Re:UK Driving License by adolf · · Score: 1

      "theory component" == "written test"

    9. Re:UK Driving License by Canazza · · Score: 1

      Highway code, road safety, don't put diesel in a petrol car, that kind of thing.

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    10. Re:UK Driving License by albacrankie · · Score: 2

      There's usually a question about unladen swallows too.

    11. Re:UK Driving License by Alranor · · Score: 1

      that one in particular has been known to cause problems for recent immigrants from Africa looking to learn to drive in the UK

    12. Re:UK Driving License by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Pearson Vue also administer the theory component of the UK driving test.

      It's not mentioned in TFA, does anybody know if there were affected also?

      I always wondered how I managed to score 65 out of 50 in my theory test.

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    13. Re:UK Driving License by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      In the UK, not only do we have a theory/written test, we also have a practical test which involves more than starting the engine, putting it in drive and going round the block without actually killing ourselves, which I believe is the essential format of the US driving exam.

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    14. Re:UK Driving License by Medievalist · · Score: 4, Funny

      In the USA, we have a driving test, which includes both driving with an observer and answering written questions. No parts of this test are considered to be in any way theoretical, which is why the previous poster was baffled by the reference to a "theory" test.

      If you really want to get them confused, tell them you left your lorry on the hard standing with the bonnet up to fool the peelers whilst you spent a penny in the loo.

    15. Re:UK Driving License by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the UK they have many different parts to a test - some of which don't actually take place in a car. Of course,where you're from you simply have to get into a car (belonging to anyone) and drive 5 feet forward and then reverse. If no one dies, you pass.

    16. Re:UK Driving License by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      A very old bug, and marked: WONTFIX.

      I'll not get into the debate over whether it's a bug or a feature - I've driven in all 5 common configurations and none is significantly different to any other - but I note that the bug report/ feature change request is marked "WONTFIX" and not "UNFIXABLE".

      Several countries have changed form using one driving rule convention to a different one, with negligible changes in accident rates. It takes planning, commitment and motivation, and it can be done perfectly well. For an Island nation, motivation to change is slight.

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  4. Free Passes for All!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When my local bricks and mortar store screws up like this, they usually give away freebies. What, Pearson has no competition, you say? Well byte me.

    1. Re: Free Passes for All!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, they have plenty of competition these days. Some companies, like Proctor U, let you take exams at home. Sounds like Netflix vs Blockbuster to me.

      How could a company this big have an outage this bad?

    2. Re: Free Passes for All!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus, there's always Prometric

    3. Re: Free Passes for All!! by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      That depends on the test you're trying to take. Some tests are only available through one of the providers.

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    4. Re: Free Passes for All!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How could a company this big have an outage this bad?

      They built it on SharePoint.

  5. Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A provider of network certification exams experiencing a service outage.

    Though, I have to ask, what exactly is the issue here? When I took a Cisco exam, everything seemed local, can't they simply say "thanks for taking the exam, we'll email/mail/call you with the results when they become available"?

    1. Re:Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or - a thought, is the issue not so much the uploading of results to 3rd party servers such as Cisco's but rather the inability to download the relevant exam?

      This is why I do not trust the Cloud. Also, I'd prefer having a timed paper exam for the more common exams in case of something like this.

    2. Re:Funny by iCEBaLM · · Score: 1

      Not lately, I took the CCNA a year ago, and not only is the test delivered over the internet, but they video you taking the test, and ship it all back to cisco for "validation" before you're actually certified.

    3. Re:Funny by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I took my CCNA exam there last year. Halfway through, one of the simulations completely froze... absolutely nothing would respond other than the timer continuing to count down. I had the woman running the exam come in and check it out, she agreed that it wasn't supposed to completely freeze up. They refused to let me refund or reschedule the exam.

    4. Re:Funny by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      A provider of network certification exams experiencing a service outage.

      Though, I have to ask, what exactly is the issue here? When I took a Cisco exam, everything seemed local, can't they simply say "thanks for taking the exam, we'll email/mail/call you with the results when they become available"?

      In a sense, some of the same perverse incentives that drive fiascos like the EA/SimCity server-meltdown launch are probably at work with a testing company:

      The greater the local storage of exams and answer keys, the easier it would be for them to leak, and the easier it would be for local employees/franchised locations to provide off-the-book 'services', for their own personal gain. The more you tie to HQ(eg. certainly don't have scoring capabilities onsite, ideally have only thin clients that dial in to HQ) the more control you have. Of course, this means going from a fairly robust system(all the tests Pearson administers would amount to what? a few tens of gigabytes, if there is any multimedia component, with relatively infrequent changes? You could probably keep the testing centers in step with rsync over dialup...) to a brittle one; but that never seems to stop anybody...

    5. Re:Funny by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      It's not, they batch the exam download for the night before, based on the next day's schedule.

    6. Re:Funny by Bremic · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is actually very common for Pearson Vue, and I have never heard of them allowing someone to take the exam again without having to pay full price. It happens so often I wonder if it's part of the revenue stream.
      Basically.. "People need certification for work or they wont earn their income, so if we screw them they have no choice but to pay again to get it complete. If this happens to 2% of people, we get an instant revenue bump from those people paying twice."
      It's fraud, but no one seems to want to do anything about it.

    7. Re:Funny by Patrick+In+Chicago · · Score: 1

      Everything is not local. The testing location's servers must be able to contact Vue's servers when the exam is launched.

    8. Re:Funny by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Informative

      She can't refund you there, because you didn't pay her. You paid Vue, so you must go to them for the refund. Silly, I know, but that's how it works. She should have gotten out her Vue test center 800 number and called support, and if Vue support can't fix it remotely, then you get your money back.

      I used to work at a test center (also a VAR and training center).

    9. Re:Funny by Vlado · · Score: 3, Informative

      It is partially local and partially remote.

      Local admin station downloads the test before you take it and serves it to the test stations where you take it. This prevents connectivity issues from affecting you when you're already taking the exam. In such scenario you could complete exam, be scored however your results wouldn't be submitted to the VUE servers until connectivity is restored.

      However if the admin station is unable to download the exams in the first place, then you cannot even start the exam.

    10. Re:Funny by Vlado · · Score: 1

      It must have been a shitty exam center. They were supposed to report the issue on your behalf and arrange a re-schedule for you for free.

    11. Re:Funny by SJHillman · · Score: 1

      I did go to them. I called up the number she gave me to get a refund/reschedule as soon as I got home. They called her and got her side of the story. A week later, I got their decision - computers freezing up is "expected behavior".

    12. Re:Funny by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      Sounds like an excellent opportunity for a class action lawsuit.

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    13. Re:Funny by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Ah, they must have changed policy or procedure. When I worked at a testing center, they'd call during the test, and if it prevented completion of the test (including "expected behavior) then it was a refund.

  6. Privatization of Education Yields Inferior Results by litehacksaur111 · · Score: 0

    The privatization of education and testing once again shows inferior results compared to public education and testing. I have never heard of the MCAT, LCAT, GRE, or SAT ever having these kinds of problems.

  7. Aye, The Rub! by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... and therein lies the issue with essential certification being tied in to a proprietary, privately owned-and-managed system.

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    1. Re:Aye, The Rub! by khallow · · Score: 0

      ... and therein lies the issue with essential certification being tied in to a proprietary, privately owned-and-managed system.

      The issue is? Seriously, who does this better?

    2. Re:Aye, The Rub! by SteveFoerster · · Score: 1

      No matter what your ideology, it's pretty silly to claim that your preselected worldview is somehow meaningfully supported by a single data point.

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    3. Re:Aye, The Rub! by KGIII · · Score: 1

      True but does each missed test (and the resulting effects on those who may have passed them) count as data points on their own or is the one large outage a single data point? Sometimes we have to refine and dig deeper to see a trend or spot a problem.

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    4. Re:Aye, The Rub! by Patrick+In+Chicago · · Score: 2

      Well... I haven't heard of a 5+ day Prometric outage, for one.

    5. Re:Aye, The Rub! by HangingChad · · Score: 1

      >privately owned-and-managed system

      I despise Pearson Vue and their heavy-handed tactics. There has to be a more practical way to determine certification than those hacks.

      As for their outage, I feel sorry for anyone who has to reschedule but the company can suck shit and die.

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    6. Re:Aye, The Rub! by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I had this image of a manager standing over an employee watching a clock, then saying "times up, your certificate has expired, please pack your things and leave."

    7. Re:Aye, The Rub! by kwbauer · · Score: 1

      Of course your sig says everything we need to know. If only the government controlled everything then we'd all be free. Except we wouldn't because the government would know every thing about us.

      Have you ever stopped to wonder how much less privacy you would have from the government if the government controlled Google, Facebook, Amazon, your local porn shop, your corner drug dealer, etc.?

    8. Re:Aye, The Rub! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take a look outside the US. In the UK, for example, every child in school takes exams at 16, 18 and some before that, though the earlier ones don't have any impact on your permanent record, they're just to judge how the school is doing.

      These exams are graded, all in time for university admissions. There are occasional controversies, but nothing on this scale. Of course, it's all run by the government...

    9. Re:Aye, The Rub! by swalve · · Score: 1

      Once some certifications expire, the recertification path is often much more difficult. I just had a problem with a certification expiration that prevented me from doing my job until I completed the test.

    10. Re:Aye, The Rub! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Have you ever stopped to wonder how much less privacy you would have from the government if the government controlled Google, Facebook, Amazon, your local porn shop, your corner drug dealer, etc.?

      I don't know about you, but I don't put dangerously self-incriminating material on the internet. Although I'm sure if I admitted to a terrorist outrage on facebook, I'd be in just as much trouble whether Mark Zuckenberg or the government was in control, if it was true.

      As for drug dealers, if they're illegal then they're obviously not going to be under government control, any more than hitmen are. What is your point there?

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    11. Re:Aye, The Rub! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well... I haven't heard of a 5+ day Prometric outage, for one.

      I'm not sure how, though. I stood up a Prometric testing center and was shocked at their recommendations, practices and procedures. I've dealt with more competent people on first line tech support.

    12. Re:Aye, The Rub! by khallow · · Score: 1

      These exams are graded, all in time for university admissions.

      That's a number of weeks. Reflecting on this thread, I think that this really is an issue of computer and network-based test taking. When you have such infrastructure required for the test, then that becomes another failure mode. It would be the same for any government-run testing service as well.

    13. Re:Aye, The Rub! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an employee of Prometric I must tell you that you are (almost) correct.
      We had at least one 2, possibly 3 day outage, a few 1-day outages and a number of multi-hour outages, on a regular basis, for various reasons.

  8. DRM = single point of failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Think of all the frustration and loss of value that their selfish DRM systems have caused as they attempt to extract rent from people's needed education.

    If free and open source software was used for distributed testing, this could all be avoided.

    1. Re:DRM = single point of failure by kwbauer · · Score: 1

      Exactly how would the exact problem causing this particular outage be prevented by some vaporous open source software developed by the lowest paid programmers on earth?

    2. Re:DRM = single point of failure by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Think of all the frustration and loss of value that their selfish DRM systems have caused as they attempt to extract rent from people's needed education.

      If free and open source software was used for distributed testing, this could all be avoided.

      It is the fact that these are run by people seeking to make a profit that is the problem. If it was a government-run exam, it wouldn't matter if it got fucked up, the government would have to let you do it again.

      Open source software can go wrong just the same as DRM'd proprietary software.

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  9. Panic? Frustration? Maybe... by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    But I see no massive outrage there.

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    1. Re:Panic? Frustration? Maybe... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      I tried to look at their Facebook page but the entire Facebook site appears to be down. If Slashdot managed to trash Facebook, you can bet your toasted hard drives that there will be outrage, panic and Congressional Blue Ribbon committees.

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    2. Re:Panic? Frustration? Maybe... by c0lo · · Score: 1

      But I see no massive outrage there.

      Is this a sign that "nothing of value was lost"?

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  10. Re:Privatization of Education Yields Inferior Resu by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry to break the news, but MCAT, GRE and SAT are run by private firms. They're 'non profits' but they are not government entities.

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  11. Re:Privatization of Education Yields Inferior Resu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The privatization of education and testing once again shows inferior results compared to public education and testing. I have never heard of the MCAT, LCAT, GRE, or SAT ever having these kinds of problems.

    Those tests are all administered by private companies.

  12. Aye :-) by Murdoch5 · · Score: 0

    And why are Object Oriented languages and Windows a good pair :-), For every developer who supports Objected Oriented language, this outage is for you, OO Languages!

    1. Re:Aye :-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not sure if trolling... or just wildly delusional and somehow entrusted with a keyboard...

    2. Re:Aye :-) by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      eh? what major OS is NOT used to run OO languages?

    3. Re:Aye :-) by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I am, at least a little, willing to listen.

      I don't get it. Please explain where you're coming from and what you're trying to express (clearly and use short words 'cause I'm dumb) with this statement.

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    4. Re:Aye :-) by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      This is most likely a software and platform bug, from my experience which is a fair bit the majority of software bugs are generated from OO based languages and programmers who don't really understand computer arch. So I'm willing to just go ahead and blame all the programmers who think languages like C++, C# and Java are good ideas, and who think Windows is a good platform to use to run anything. I'm willing to bet if this entire system was based on C and ran in a pure Linux environment it would be fine.

    5. Re:Aye :-) by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Thank you. I was sure you had a reason. I am unable to agree with that reasoning with the scant evidence at hand and your conclusions seem like huge leaps and maybe even blaming a language for the error that is people but I can see where you're coming from now.

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    6. Re:Aye :-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOu been trolled and then you agreed. WT?F

    7. Re:Aye :-) by KGIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Perhaps you missed the "unable to agree" in my comment? I didn't agree, I was civil. There is a difference. I opted to be civil as it was the more noble road and I felt like being idealistic. I am not sure but I think the world would be in better shape if more people did that.

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    8. Re: Aye :-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sonny, it's a lot easier to fsck up a program in a language where you have to do your own memory management (C) than it is in one that has garbage collection (Java, C#). I do not want most of the idiots put there who call themselves "developers" or "programmers" messing with malloc. And if you really think OO is the problem - what, did you get a C in "Theory of Programming Languages" and think that was a recommendation, not a grade.

    9. Re:Aye :-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not since the 80s anyway.

      If you keep insisting on no good systems use OO, you need to get back on your meds grandpa, and use some systems that aren't 30+ years old

    10. Re:Aye :-) by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      As somebody who does have a clue about system architecture, computer architecture, and programming languages....

      The very simple reason that the majority of bugs are generated from OO languages is that the majority of software is written in OO languages. That doesn't mean that OO languages are any worse to write code in. I do think C++ is a good idea in a wide range of applications, and I do think modern Windows, despite my complaints about it, is a perfectly adequate platform. (And some of my complaints are "That's not how Unix did it", since I'm baby-ducked on Unix/Linux.)

      Linux is also a perfectly adequate platform for this sort of application, but C is not as good a language to write these things in. There's much more opportunity for bugs in complex applications, and indeed C++ can do anything C can do. I'd recommend C++ over C, if only for the container class templates. If you're comparing an expert with C on Linux with a mediocre programmer using Visual C#, the expert will do better, but that's because of the quality of the human involved.

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  13. Re:Privatization of Education Yields Inferior Resu by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 1

    I have never heard of the MCAT, LCAT, GRE, or SAT ever having these kinds of problems.

    Uh... Prometric, LSAC, and ETS are all private corporations, albeit nonprofit.

  14. Re:Privatization of Education Yields Inferior Resu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What, like having to reboot a #2 pencil?

  15. No competition in this industry by dehole · · Score: 1

    This is what happens when there is no competition in this industry, reliance on a single provider can cripple you if there is no alternative. It boggles my mind that we trust private for-profit corporations to design and administer tests.

    Since there isn't much hope of a government testing center solution, perhaps an alliance of professionals should agree on a set of standards. Those standards would be open and would allow institutions to bid the work out to multiple contractors. When you have one contractor, such as pearson, without any competition, you know they won the monolopy game.

    1. Re:No competition in this industry by AK+Marc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are mutliple testing centers, but they are all exclusive. Prometric offers The Open Group testing, so you can still take a test and get TOGAF certified if you want, but Cisco is apparently available exclusively on Vue, and most seem to be that way, where only one tester delivers any single test, but there are multiple options for testing. No idea how it got to that without illegal collusion, but that's what we have now.

    2. Re:No competition in this industry by kwbauer · · Score: 1

      Uhhhh... maybe Vue offered Cisco lower costs or more profit than Prometric. Stating it must be the result of illegal collusion is like saying that Culvers carries only Pepsi soda is a sign of illegal collusion.

    3. Re:No competition in this industry by AK+Marc · · Score: 1
      If Vue is so much better, why does Prometric have about half the market?

      Stating it must be the result of illegal collusion is like saying that Culvers carries only Pepsi soda is a sign of illegal collusion.

      Back in the day, it was. Both Pepsi and Coke have been investigated for exclusive contracts, and Intel and MS have been convicted for it. It's illegal even if a non-monopoly does it, but it is generally only investigated in monopoly situations.

      Vue and Prometric have split the market pretty evenly, and have (as far as I can tell from a quick scan) no overlap. It's unnatural, and hasn't happened in the past without illegal collusion.

  16. Re:Privatization of Education Yields Inferior Resu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ETS, which manages the GRE appears to be a private organization: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_Testing_Service

    If the definition of public is government operated, the College Board probably doesn't qualify. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Board

  17. Not to sound overly harsh by RobbieCrash · · Score: 2

    But if your job is dependent on you having a certification, would you really leave it to the last 3 days of your certs validity to do the test? What if you fail, most certs have a minimum retry period of a week or so, don't they? Isn't this just a semi-inconvenient thing rather than the economy crushing madness the summary makes it out to be?

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    1. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by galimore · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you're mixing two different things.

      1) Some people have certifications expiring.

      In many cases, if you certify a higher level certification, it will renew your older lower ranked certificate. But if your certification expires, you won't be able to take the higher level certification because that lower level certification is required to take the higher level.

      So yes, in this case, people are being somewhat lazy, and frankly most companies would work with you on this.

      2) Some people need a certification to be able to work.

      This might mean that some people are unable to start working (i.e. take a job with a company) until they pass their certification.

      This is a different issue altogether, and has nothing to do with laziness on the part of the test taker.

    2. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by RobbieCrash · · Score: 1

      Didn't think of your second point. Fair enough.

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    3. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Some "certifications" require continuing education, and some standardized testing is used to prove that CE. It's conceivable that a CPA (or AMA or Bar) member could lose the right to practice if they didn't take a test in time, though most try not to push it that close to the cutoff.

    4. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by Fuzzums · · Score: 1

      And some certificates just expire after two years and are replaced by something totally new *coughM$*

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    5. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scheduling also tends to be an issue. For me, I only had a few days a month that I could get off to take my boards. Given that everyone else in the country was in a similar situation, most of those days were filled up. Thus, my effective choices were maybe two days per quarter, and that was several months out. If the testing center couldn't do the test on that day it'd likely be a 6 month setback, which could easily create problems (e.g. being unemployed for a year).

    6. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by Patrick+In+Chicago · · Score: 1

      Not everybody with a lapsing cetification is lazy. Some entire COUNTRIES don't have a Pearson Vue center. There was one post on the FB page of a lady who had to first make an appointment to get a visa with her government. Once they finally get around to granting the appointment, she has to book the exam. But she hasn't been able to book the exam in 5 days, and her appointment time for the visa came and went. She won't be able to get visa in time to certify prior to expiration. On the Cisco front... it's not that far fetched that a non-lazy person might be about to lose their certification. Maybe you start booking recertification exams somewhere around 3 months prior to expiration, you decide you'll try an advanced exam to move up in the world. You take the exam, maybe you fail it. 2 months left. You then study and have to find a center with an appointment. Maybe 3-4 weeks left at this point. Maybe you fail again. So you decide you can't pass the higher level exam and study up to recertify. On Sunday you try to book the exam. You can't. And you can't Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday. And it looks like you probably won't be able to book Friday either, and maybe the whole weekend. Now you're really in trouble. Will there even be an appointment anywhere? Maybe you have to travel out of state to reach a Vue center. I'll give you that there are some procrastinators who wait for the last minute, but 5 days of being unable to book or take an already-booked exam is atrocious.

    7. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by Patrick+In+Chicago · · Score: 1

      There are many exams that are only open for a specific window of time, you either pass them in the window or you're out of luck.

    8. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      MS doesn't do that. I got my MCSE back when they had no expiration date. MS may now assert that I'm not an MCSE because I passed it in 1998, but in 1998, under the terms at the time, 6 tests = MCSE for life. I have a non-expiring certificate for MCSE I can use at any time to prove it. I also have expired CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCSP, and CCDPs to grumble at Cisco for. A new test every 2 years, of they all go away. Oh yeah, the port numbers for DNS change every year, so you gotta keep on top of all that. Yes, MPLS is bigger now than ATM is, and ATM was bigger 10 years ago than now, but 2 years seems like a short time, unless their tests are to prove the superiority of Cisco, push their AVVID or cloud or whatever they feel like pushing now.

    9. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're a doctor who cancelled a whole day's clinic to take an 8 hour exam which is only scheduled every 6 months, it is a little more than mildly inconvenient.

    10. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by Canazza · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but good luck getting any free stuff out of Microsoft with a 15 year old MSCE certificate. That's the reason everyone takes the tests right? To get free software?

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    11. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Nah, that's why I have a job. Serial numbers everywhere.

    12. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno, Microsoft is pretty generous with their free stuff for certificates and students. My student credentials are long since expired, yet I still have access to everything in their student section. They never deactivated my account and actually upgraded it as more stuff was tacked on.

    13. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by Dabido · · Score: 1

      Last time I booked a cert exam through Pearson Vue the earliest date it could give me was over a week from when I booked. So, last 3 days out is a very short period of time prior to taking the exam, and anyone doing that may end up in a situation where the earliest date is after their cert becomes redundant. So, agree, it is stupid, but is also human nature to a certain extent to leave things to the last possible minute. I've been trying to book a cert exam for the last week and haven't been able to book it, and I'm not in the USA, so it affects the whole world (because, well, it all goes through the website in the USA). I don't have a cert running out, so it is more of an annoyance for me. But, yes, the summary is exaggerating the extent of the 'outage' as well, the website is up, but time outs a lot when trying to book. Pearson Vue say they are taking some registrations etc, just their system is having difficulties.

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  18. I graded standardized math exams by shadowofwind · · Score: 4, Interesting

    for a few weeks about ten years ago. I'm about 90% sure it was for Pearson. Some of the answers in the key weren't even right. When I tried to politely point this out I was punished for insubordination.

    1. Re:I graded standardized math exams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here; I was cleaning up litter in a park and charged with disturbing the peace.

      Oh wait, no I wasn't, I just completely made that up.

    2. Re:I graded standardized math exams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I've taken many standardized exams in my life and I've noticed that their purpose is to differentiate students. A fixed percentage are failed, regardless of score, and a fixed percentage pass. As all students look fairly similar, the test is the major determinant of your opportunities, but there's nothing to corroborate with the results. You could give scientists an exam on the history of the Byzantine Empire and it'd work just as well for that purpose (and since essentially everyone is competent, having arbitrary acceptance criteria doesn't create problems either). So errors are irrelevant, the exam just needs to look like it measures knowledge in a particular subject area.

      Note: the exams I've taken require you to get between 50 - 70% of the questions right to pass, given the usual percentile breakdown, and almost nobody does better than 85%. Thus, the 100 point score range is really about ten percentage points difference on an exam where students are guessing on about a third of the questions. Said exams were never intended to be a differentiators of students, but people started using them to filter down the applicant pool. I happened to run into someone who served on the review committee and apparently it's a recognized issue that they can't really fix. If they took away numeric scores then it'd cause too much chaos, and if they made each question something a reasonable student should know (i.e. a competence test), then almost everyone would pass with high marks and it'd essentially be the same thing.

    3. Re:I graded standardized math exams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting. My honors first-year Physics classes in college had tests that resulted in scores between 15% and 85%. Their unintended consequence was to differentiate students. Their primary purpose, which they were very good at, was to determine exactly how much physics you retained and understood from the lectures.

    4. Re:I graded standardized math exams by swalve · · Score: 1

      Some tests have to be that way. There are only so many slots, and the top X test takers get accepted.

  19. How long was it out for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Article says the people were waiting for four hours not days? Which is it? An outage on a single server that lasts for five days means they arn't virtualizing and they arn't doing backups and they don't have spare equipment, complete incompetence! Guess all that admin training is doing absolutely no good. They would have been smart to pass on the blame or been a little more vague! I think they would learn a bit from my Training Videos http://rawcell.com.

  20. Re:Privatization of Education Yields Inferior Resu by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

    It's called a sharpener.

  21. Pearson? Is this also the textbook publisher? by dicobalt · · Score: 1

    Their logo appears to be the same font as my woefully overpriced Pearson textbooks. That does not amuse me.

  22. Whew! by notthegeneral · · Score: 1

    I took the second part of the CompTIA A+ exam on Friday through Pearson. I had no idea I was barely dodging the nonfunctional bullet.

  23. High Availability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You can think the suits who don’t really understand technology and why we need redundant systems and links.

  24. Not sure this is unusual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if this is a cloud based service would this not be normal to have a long outage every so often...?

  25. Posting anonymous since there was a NDA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I mean it's long been expired but I still don't want any shit.

    I worked for Pearson several years ago. I had a small start-up company that specialized in courseware systems. The deal with Pearson was small, only around 500k to build a custom courseware system. Our team worked our hearts out desperately trying to get this product to market. We only took a small payment up-front and the rest was due on completion.

    When the product was finished Pearson threw their team of lawyers at us when we tried to get the rest of what was due. They completely fucked us over, so badly that the company disbanded and all of us had to find new jobs without pay. I would bet that this is a similar situation.

    1. Re:Posting anonymous since there was a NDA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WRONG

      I too have worked as highly skilled engineer for pearson (pearson is a massive multinational with tens of thousands of employees) and I disagree with your assumption.

      I believe the real problem is brain drain and loss of talent at pearson during their buyout of a compititor.

      Pearson in UK (headquarters) (LSE: PSON ) (NYSE: PSO ) bought the number one competitor fora QUARTER BILLION DOLLARS in april 2011 ("schoolnet" digital services related to massive deployment of standardized testing) to Pearson Education division responsible for this fiasco two years ago, specifically to eventually shut this current test legacy stuff down.
      Well the teams don't want to stick around obviously as it winds down and is replaced by smarter better more skilled competitor bought to replace them. Especially when most middle management is already well out the door! Those coding engineers see writing on the wall.
      Most all attempts at inhouse programming to maintain the COUNTLESS acquisitions of Pearson are substandard. They buy great software, but never manages to acquire the ACTUAL coding talent behind their hundreds of purchased companies.

      The replacement of all standardized testing products with schoolnet and the layoff of all middle managers of non-schoolnet or forced moves to far away offices and consolidated offices, is the root cause.

      therefore the +5 rated anon above this is incorrect this time. In fact with my dealings with pearson they have always been above top notch and in fact a tad better than dealing with apple corporate or microsoft.

      unlike above anon poster, I'd give pearson business ethics an a+, but i give their competence and care of core engineering principles a failing grade.

      pearson is letting it all fail due to schoolnet 2013 transition. they want to use the 230 million dollar product they bought and not maintain the older shabbier codebase and servers (the stuff failing in this article).

      .

    2. Re:Posting anonymous since there was a NDA by Whatchamacallit · · Score: 1

      That would be your own fault or the fault of your employer! It is absolutely imperative to have a legal contract. Any software firm or even independent developer or web designer needs to have their own lawyer and accountant. Otherwise you get screwed. To do business with large corporations, it should be required. You should always do the following:

      1. If they try to get you to sign a blanket contract have your own lawyer review it.
      2. If you join a conference call and find they have a lawyer on the call, then you cancel the meeting and reschedule when you have your own lawyer on the call.
      3. The contract your lawyer and their lawyers review and sign should protect both parties.If the blanket contract is insufficient then your lawyer drafts a new contract and reviews until both parties agree.

      BE PREPARED TO WALK AWAY AND TURN DOWN BUSINESS!!!

      This way it becomes entirely a situation of F_U Pay Me! Oh the entire department was shutdown and the software contracted is no longer needed? Too bad, F_U Pay Me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZGra65Nob4

  26. Doctors have to.... WAIT?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I the only one who sees the delicious irony of doctors having to wait on something outside of their control? You know... like patients having to wait on doctors for hours at times ? ?

  27. certification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "prevented people from going out and making a paycheck"

    That's what happens when you rely on "certification" for vendor products and proprietary standards. There's something wrong when one's job needs more certification to get promoted.

  28. NoTesting?!?!?!??!?! by umask077 · · Score: 1

    Wait, There is no testing? Theirs always more testing to do and I was promised cake.

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  29. Re:Pearson? Is this also the textbook publisher? by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 1
  30. Hmmm by jameshofo · · Score: 1

    When doing maintenance in the data-center it is best practice to do one the following :
    A: Run through the halls screaming downtime
    B: Notify relevant parties of downtime and schedule appropriately
    C: Give up, it runs a windows NT box that has never seen an update from Microsoft and its run by a really old guy that often falls asleep in the data-center but management doesn't care because when he croaks he's taking the whole company with him because no one know's how the hell that thing works.
    D: None of the above, we're going for 100% up-time this year, suck-it Google!

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  31. Washington Post article by shuz · · Score: 1

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/04/25/yet-a-new-pearson-problem-with-testing/
    Today, due to a problem with Pearson’s central server in Iowa, the test centers could not operate and we were not allowed into the test center for 5 hours after the scheduled time.

    Based on this article it appears the service has not been down entirely for 5 days.

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    1. Re:Washington Post article by Patrick+In+Chicago · · Score: 2

      I'm sorry, but a 5 hour delay is NOT "up, but at a reduced capacity" at they claim. Failing to deliver an EIGHT HOUR exam for 5 hours is an outage. You show up at 7AM and the exam can't be run until noon? So you're taking an exam until 8PM? Ridiculous. People all over the globe are unable to schedule or reschedule exams. They are showing up at testing centers only to be turned away because the center can't deliver the exam - Pearson's servers are unreachable. Calls to customer service offer no assistance other than "We can't log in, try again tomorrow."

  32. Mission critical infrastructure by shuz · · Score: 5, Informative

    In my particular line of work a 4-5+ hour outage would make most national media news. Careful planning goes not into daily run but also what to do in the event of a major outage and backup plans including dr failover. If Pearson is this important and has far reaching and potential legal obligations to provide testing services, I would expect them to have plans to recover from anything short of a well distributed and targeted nuclear attack. That is the mindset of mission critical enterprise IT. I can't pass judgement of Pearson's infrastructure because I don't work there and we certainly don't have all the facts but this likely will be a huge wake up call to their Management. It should also be a huge opportunity for an outside IT contracting company to do an audit of their plans.

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    1. Re:Mission critical infrastructure by Patrick+In+Chicago · · Score: 2

      That's really the core of the problem. They claim that they're fully up, just at diminished capacity. Some people are managing to squeeze exams in here and there. Some people are managing to schedule or reschedule. But many people are being turned away from testing centers. Many people can't reschedule anything. Calls to customer service result in "Sorry, we can't get into the system either."

    2. Re:Mission critical infrastructure by wintermute000 · · Score: 2

      My money is on a major backend upgrade gone foobar and somehow foobarring the rollback (if they even considered rollbacki?!?!?!). Either that or their prod is completely hosed somehow (fire etc.) and they've had to switch on their never properly tested, not properly built or scoped DR that was just put in to tick some audit by a non IT person putting a check next to a box.

      A break-fix does not take 5 days to resolve, not even a large SAN.

      I've seen some rank amateurish behaviour by enterprises with multi million dollar turnovers so its no surprise for a monopolist vendor like Pearson to sit there and watch the money roll in. Unless there is some kind of legal/contractual or PR ramification from downtime mgt just don't get it until it happens.

    3. Re:Mission critical infrastructure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is FUBAR. It is an initialization for F'ed Up Beyond All Recognition from the US military.

    4. Re:Mission critical infrastructure by Thyamine · · Score: 2

      I have seen several large organizations that think or try to plan for HA, but never test it. And in some cases there is a very nebulous 'well, we fail over' type of plan. Nothing detailed, and nothing specific. I've only had one customer who actually went through the process of a complete restore/DR test. Most seem to hope that it just won't be needed.

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  33. This is why you need a second source. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any education system that has only a single exam provider, flunks a basic test of intelligence.

  34. Not surprising by The_Great_Outdoors · · Score: 0

    Last semester I had a class that required testing on Pearson, and even on a typical day (not beginning of semester when everyone is creating accounts, and not during finals), their servers bogged down and responded slowly. Sometimes I would have to refresh a few times to get the page to load. This seems on par for the experience I have had with them.

  35. Tap Battery-Swap stations or use Energy fr Thorium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, there are all sorts of -local- power sources available for implementation:

    1. huge diesel-fueled generators (call out your National Guard groups...
            oh, wait, aren't they wasting their time deployed overseas...)

    2. use nearby batteries of wind generators (or is it only the clever Danes,
            who've planned such energy sources into their grid?)

    3. use your area's nearby, -spare- Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor (LFTR)
            (no, wait, didn't your gov't - in Nixon's time - -kill- research on safe LFTRs?)

    4. use lots of BetterPlace's EV battery-swap stations' spare electricity
            (Oops! They've cut & run from the US's EV marketplace, maybe
            because Americans are buying local more... & no such stations exist?)

    Well, it looks like you're being adversely impacted by sequences of Bad Decision,
    not to mention your own, eg, not insisting on 100% power back-up's for all hosting
    services, which your systems depend on - whether in-house or out-sourced...

    Bad Decisions hurt your Customers, but - no matter who made those decisions -
    I hope you'll squeak-by to get a chance to re-think & improve on them in future...

  36. Used to Deal With Them as Consultant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to work with a few companies that work with Pearson, so we often had to integrate with their systems, consume their data, talk to their people, etc.

    I laugh at this article because it is hardly surprising. A huge chunk of their services are built on some of the worst Indian programmer spaghetti crap in Java you have ever seen. At one point, one of the major testing companies I was working with had to build web services to exchange some data with them. They couldn't figure out simple things like using SSL, encoding in UTF-8, and not making things completely proprietary for no reason. They used to put up huge SOAP feeds where you'd get almost a meg of data and really the only useful value anyone would need would be 1 true/false. I've seen worse, but just barely.

    Even more scary is how they treat personally identifiable information (PII). Avoiding correlating PII with results and tests is huge in that industry, and they have no clue. I've never seen a company staffed with so many inept people. They are only out for your cash and don't care about anything else. That's why so many of their tests and labs also look straight out of 1994 still.

    This company is a joke. As a customer, I also was billed before several times when canceling the exam. Their cancelation system went down in part, but it was still registered as cancelled, but sent out no email. They claimed since I didn't have the email, no money back. So I asked that because their system broke, I have to pay? Yes. Unbelievable. Prometric isn't much better so they can get away with this kind of shady stuff.

    I for one hope they burn, or at least draw attention from consumer rights organizations.

    1. Re:Used to Deal With Them as Consultant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to work with a few companies that work with Pearson, so we often had to integrate with their systems, consume their data, talk to their people, etc.

      I laugh at this article because it is hardly surprising. A huge chunk of their services are built on some of the worst Indian programmer spaghetti crap in Java you have ever seen. At one point, one of the major testing companies I was working with had to build web services to exchange some data with them. They couldn't figure out simple things like using SSL, encoding in UTF-8, and not making things completely proprietary for no reason. They used to put up huge SOAP feeds where you'd get almost a meg of data and really the only useful value anyone would need would be 1 true/false. I've seen worse, but just barely.

      Even more scary is how they treat personally identifiable information (PII). Avoiding correlating PII with results and tests is huge in that industry, and they have no clue. I've never seen a company staffed with so many inept people. They are only out for your cash and don't care about anything else. That's why so many of their tests and labs also look straight out of 1994 still.

      This company is a joke. As a customer, I also was billed before several times when canceling the exam. Their cancelation system went down in part, but it was still registered as cancelled, but sent out no email. They claimed since I didn't have the email, no money back. So I asked that because their system broke, I have to pay? Yes. Unbelievable. Prometric isn't much better so they can get away with this kind of shady stuff.

      I for one hope they burn, or at least draw attention from consumer rights organizations.

      Yep, I do agree. They are moving more in that direction.

      They are experiencing a mass of people leaving and they are actually laying off top performers because performance isn't a metric used, but ass kissing is. They are paying the price and imploding.

    2. Re:Used to Deal With Them as Consultant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work for a company that works for Pearson, and I assure you we use 100% All-American spaghetti crap.

  37. Business-to-business is the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem is that these companies are usually business-to-business, that is, they sell their software to middle managers in a large company who will never actually use it themselves, so bugs, problems or errors go unreported.

    I took an online test when hiring for my current company, provided by a 3rd part specializing in these things. To get familiar with taking these tests I could run a practice test at home - but the "practice" test I took at home and the live test differed (and I don't mean the questions were different). In the practice test you could skip a question and come back, in the live test you couldn't.

    How did they tell you? Through an OK/Cancel dialog popping up, saying "You can not come back to this question. To go to the next question, click Cancel. To stay on the current question, click OK".

    Now if you are like 99% of most computer users you expect the OK to perform whatever action you requested (move forward) and Cancel to not do it, so you only read the first sentence and click OK. Only when your finger is moving up from having pressed down the left mouse button do you realize the diabolical nature and disregard of usability principles of the programmers of this test.

    For things that can have potentially life changing implications, one should expect a lot more.

  38. Appears their sins have caught up with them. by TheHawke · · Score: 1

    Their mistakes have multiplied greatly over the past 5 years, ranging from basic testing errors that wiped out the hopes for several thousand students, to outages that shackled tens of thousands of applicants for a variety of programs, not just in the academic field.

    Questions abound over how they managed to obtain half-billion dollar contracts with states. This stems from non-profit organizations that are attached to the corporate body itself. Plus the heavy-handed lobbying and borderline monopoly they have over the instructional book, testing and exam industry.

    Sounds like Pearson needs to come under a congressional audit and grilled until they are past well done.

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  39. Re:Privatization of Education Yields Inferior Resu by pipatron · · Score: 2

    Yeah, it's not the privatization that's an issue, it's the profit part. You know, the incentive that according to the great invisible hand in the sky should improve quality and decrease overhead..

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  40. It continues by Patrick+In+Chicago · · Score: 1

    Here I sit on day 6. Pearson could not deliver my exam because of their system failure. Their "customer service" hours are from 7AM to 7PM Central. As of 8:15AM Central, neither I nor customer service can log on to the system. Pearson's advice continues to be to try using their online system after hours. I can not reschedule the exam that they failed to deliver, a Pearson employee has to do it. So I'm just stuck.

  41. Pearson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I worked for a direct competor of Pearson and I have had to deal with Pearson and they are a complete nightmare of incompetence to deal with. Trying to explain some of the data that we are exporting from our system and trying to find an api or other means of importing the data within thier systems was a nightmare and nothing better than dealing with Indian developers just woken up out of bed with impossible accents to decifer.

    But that aside working for a competor in the same business I found that it was run by a bunch of past educators that wanna be tech gurus. The technology was a complete disaster a hodgepodge of products bought from different vendors not even tested to see if they could be integrated together and sold an promised to work. Not to mention the company motto was to flat out lie to your clients, and thier SSO solution made it possible to gain administrator access for anyway just by passining a paramater in the url. No of thier so called tech experts knew much of anything, and thier principle engineer worked to undermine you if he percieved you knew more than he did. They were a bunch of back stabbers and no one knew anything. I lasted about 2 and 1/2 months before i outright quit. And I can imagine Pearson is run the same way.

  42. You're all missing the root cause by cellocgw · · Score: 1

    Remember all those /. threads with massive rants about "a college degree is just a dumbass piece of paper and only real-world experience is what matters"? So why are we accepting (or why are employers so stupid as to accept) that only with a particular certification exam can someone be hired or retained?
    Aside from the absurdity of most or all of these cert. exams, and I'm including bar exams and medical board-recerts, there's really no excuse for an employer who doesn't just say, "Oh, gosh, the test site is borked. We'll hire you with the understanding that some time in the next [month,year] you'll take the exam."

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  43. Prometric did it too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because I am an employee at Prometric, I will post anonymously.

    We had such a problem too, a few times.
    One of the times I remember quite well was a major database crash prevented all IT exams from being taken for 20 hours.
    Another time, an construction excavatour cut a power cable in Baltimore next to the headquarters of Prometric and we were without electricity for 2 days... And the world was without any means to take any exams...
    And of course there are tons of small outages.
    Pearson's normally have a pretty good record comparing to Prometric. The only reason that's the news is because it happened to them.

  44. Calm down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When your beloved Obama gets through destroying the American economy, there won't even be any test for you to take. There might not even be any electricity to run computers. Just be thankful for this pre-experience that might help you to cope with the disaster soon to come.

  45. Re:Professorship is easy! by david_thornley · · Score: 1

    Somebody has to write the grant proposals.

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  46. And PV's PR strategy is: "The Big Lie" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On their FB page PV has been saying, roughly, "we are sorry our exam scheduling is a little bit slow".

    Sigh, the testing operation itself has been down or mostly down. (And exam scheduling also.)

    It's kind of like Kermit Gosnell taking the public position that

                          "yes, occasionally, purely by accident, we engaged in a little medicare over-billing."