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The Amazon Rainforest Wants Its TLD Back From Amazon.com
terrancem writes "The Seattle-based Amazon.com has applied for its brand to be a generic top-level domain name (.amazon), but South American governments argue this would prevent the use of this internet address for environmental protection, the promotion of indigenous rights and other public interest uses. Along with dozens of other disputed claims to names including ".patagonia" and ".shangrila", the issue cuts to the heart of debates about the purpose and governance of the internet."
You better call Captain Planet, South America.
Because little Jeff Bezos ain't giving that up without a serious fight.
Mod me down, my New Earth Global Warmingist friends!
A corrupt slashdot luser has pentrated the moderation system to downmod all my posts while impersonating me.
Nearly 230++ times that I know of @ this point for all of March/April 2013 so far, & others here have told you to stop - take the hint, lunatic (leave slashdot)...
Sorry folks - but whoever the nutjob is that's attempting to impersonate me, & upset the rest of you as well, has SERIOUS mental issues, no questions asked! I must've gotten the better of him + seriously "gotten his goat" in doing so in a technical debate & his "geek angst" @ losing to me has him doing the:
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A.) $10,000 challenges, ala (where the imposter actually TRACKED + LISTED the # of times he's done this no less, & where I get the 230 or so times I noted above) -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3585795&cid=43285307
&/or
B.) Reposting OLD + possibly altered models - (this I haven't checked on as to altering the veracity of the info. being changed) of posts of mine from the past here
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(Albeit massively repeatedly thru all threads on /. this March/April 2013 nearly in its entirety thusfar).
* Personally, I'm surprised the moderation staff here hasn't just "blocked out" his network range yet honestly!
(They know it's NOT the same as my own as well, especially after THIS post of mine, which they CAN see the IP range I am coming out of to compare with the ac spamming troll doing the above...).
APK
P.S.=> Again/Stressing it: NO guys - it is NOT me doing it, as I wouldn't waste that much time on such trivial b.s. like a kid might...
Plus, I only post where hosts file usage is on topic or appropriate for a solution & certainly NOT IN EVERY POST ON SLASHDOT (like the nutcase trying to "impersonate me" is doing for nearly all of March/April now, & 230++ times that I know of @ least)... apk
P.S.=> here is CORRECT host file information just to piss off the insane lunatic troll:
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21++ ADVANTAGES OF CUSTOM HOSTS FILES (how/what/when/where/why):
Over AdBlock & DNS Servers ALONE 4 Security, Speed, Reliability, & Anonymity (to an extent vs. DNSBL's + DNS request logs).
1.) HOSTS files are useable for all these purposes because they are present on all Operating Systems that have a BSD based IP stack (even ANDROID) and do adblocking for ANY webbrowser, email program, etc. (any webbound program). A truly "multi-platform" UNIVERSAL solution for added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs + DNSBL's you feel are unjust hosts get you past/around).
2.) Adblock blocks ads? Well, not anymore & certainly not as well by default, apparently, lol - see below:
Adblock Plus To Offer 'Acceptable Ads' Option
http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/12/12/2213233/adblock-plus-to-offer-acceptable-ads-option )
AND, in only browsers & their subprogram families (ala email like Thunderbird for FireFox/Mozilla products (use same gecko & xulrunner engines)), but not all, or, all independent email clients, like Outlook, Outlook Express, OR Window "LIVE" mail (for example(s)) - there's many more like EUDORA & others I've used over time that AdBlock just DOES NOT COVER... period.
Disclaimer: Opera now also has an AdBlock addon (now that Opera has addons above widgets), but I am not certain the same people make it as they do for FF or Chrome etc..
3.) Adblock doesn't protect email programs external to FF (non-mozilla/gecko engine based) family based wares, So AdBlock doesn't protect email programs like Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows "LIVE" mail & others like them (EUDORA etc./et al), Hosts files do. THIS IS GOOD VS. SPAM M
Sometimes I wish there were no TLDs at all. They aren't really necessary. They actually make things worse, since any owner of a domain is forced to buy several TLD versions of their domain. They only make sense if you can actually enforce the meaning of the TLD, such as how .gov TLDs are enforced.
What Bezos needs to do buy and fund a TLD for the amazon. Obviously it is not going to be amazon. On the webpages have a link redirecting to the new domain. It will likely avoid huge legal costs and generate a good deal of good will.
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
After all, that's the origin of the name.
I eat only the real part of complex carbohydrates.
The original Amazons called and they want their name back from the rain forest.
Lots of people predicted that this new TLD system was going to be a mess. And... it is. Seems like it has become even more of a mess each month that goes by.
I really have to wonder why anybody would have thought that it would NOT be a mess.
Buy an Island. Call it the "Amazon Island". Make a flag, national anthem, etc. Start a wikipedia page. File for the TLD, and launder your money through your nation. Make South America suck it because you won the TLD, and no more taxes if you shop at amazon.amazon.
Haha, well I thought the free market was the savior and one true holy way to organize everything. Just let them settle it that way, bid it out.
See here, explains it all -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3561925&cid=43223585
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I.E./Summary: Trolls had a challenge put to them to validly disprove my points in the post I just replied to - result? Trolls FAIL... lol!
APK
P.S.=> That's what makes me LAUGH harder than ANYTHING ELSE on this forums (full of "FUD" spreading trolls) - When you hit trolls with facts & truths they CANNOT disprove validly on computing tech based grounds, this is the result - Applying unjustifiable downmods to effetely & vainly *try* to "hide" my posts & facts/truths they extoll!
Hahaha... lol, man: Happens nearly every single time I post such lists (proving how ineffectual these trolls are), only showing how solid my posts of that nature are...
Ah yes "geek angst" @ it's 'finest' (not), vs. facts & truths = downmod by /. weak trolls!
... apk
Amazon the company could be amazon.com. Amazon the environmental organization could be amazon.org (if it weren't parked and likely squatted). Amazon the ISP (if there was one) coupld be amazon.net. etc.
But noooo, some bozos in charge decided that increasing the number of namespace collisions will somehow be better for their bank accou^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hthe Internet.
No one makes you use any particular DNS server tree. In fact you can use many. You could even have a search path for various trees. This is why it is dumb for Government/courts to block/take domain names. One can always use an alt DNS system that is out of reach from the law. That domain name system could be searched first and then fall back on the IANA one.
What part of "First to File" with the relevant authorities don't you guys understand?
How are the pipfruit producers of the world doing in their battle to reclaim their good name form the company formerly run by Steve Jobs?
Why not fight for Amazonas or Amazona instead?
$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski
* POOR SHOWING TROLLS , & most especially IF that's the "best you've got" - apparently, it is... lol!
Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.
Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?
Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.
If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.
I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.
Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.
Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.
I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.
If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!
You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his ba
I was wondering whatever became of the Panda smackdown.
Have gnu, will travel.
Do indigenous people with special "indigenous rights" -- rights that I apparently don't have, because I belong to a second class non-indigenous race -- ever help anyone with anything? Why do we owe them a favor?
Just wondering.
This may be an odd perspective, but I see this as a question of which philosophy do you agree with more?
(a) I work to live
(b) I live to work
I think that people who believe (a) are going to think that the .amazon TLD should go to some sort of amazon conservatory organization because life is more important than commerce.
While I would expect those who identify with (b) to be in favor of amazon.com owning the .amazon TLD. Because for those people, business is more important than life. Maybe not their life, but life of the general population.
Obviously I think (b) is a very small group. However, as small as it is, I would not be surprised to find that group (b) is largely populated by CxO types.
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
Amazon probably wants the .amazon tld to protect the "intellectual property" of their name.
I'm sick of marketroids.
"Nationalism is an infantile sickness. It is the measles of the human race." -Albert Einstein
Great opportunity for squatters/scammers. With all its drawbacks I still prefer the current system over your proposal. It's just that much more reliable.
If ICANN were actually managing this crap sanely it wouldn't be that hard to share. No reason that conservation.amazon and shopping.amazon couldn't both exist under different ownership.
...and they want their "something or other" back.
Oh, we're not doing that?
That sound you hear? Jon Postel has been spinning so much he broke a bearing. Again.
My next sig will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush
But apparently, that's not good enough for merkins. It's only good enough for everyone else.
Only in English is it the "Amazon Rainforest."
In Brasil's native Portuguese, it's Floresta AmazÃnica.
Amazon.com gets .amazon, and the rainforest gets .amazonica
Problem solved.
Nobody has used .amazon yet and nobody has forgotten about the bloody rainforest before it existed.
Also its South American governments that are stripping the rainforest clean, not sure they want to shine a brighter light on that...all they have to do is just stop doing that and the problem is solved.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
NOBODY is going to use anything but a .com ending so it really doesn't matter.
What Amazon should do is make a deal with the South American governements to donate something towards the protection of the rainforests every year. Since it is a top level domain, Amazon can allow registration of other domains that are related to the cause. Problem solved.
In Brazil this area is referred to as The Amazonas. I imagine in the surrounding Spanish speaking countries as well. That is the one that should be used for whatever boring purposes the government may have in the future.
Can't anything remain pure?
many regions have won the right for producing regional products using the region name as a brand or origin certificate.
That's why you can buy Champagne (made in france, in the champagne region) or "Sparkling" wine (Champagne made somewhere else).
Some other products share this privilege.
Why suddenly other regions have to surrender it's "Brand" when there's no tangible product associated, but an economic activity like tourism (patagonia), or a biologic concept (amazon).
Double standards FTW....
Forests get more pissed off than Lakes when you anthropomorphise them. They reeeeealy hate it.
Not as much as Mountains, but still. I'd stay away and pay up if I were Amazon. Or ex-Amazon
Nouvelles de jeux et technologies en français. TC
amazon.org would be more appropriate.
It's parked on GoDaddy and registered to an anonymous registrant.