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Cyanogenmod 10.1 RC1 Starts To Roll Out To Devices Near You

New submitter Noitatsidem writes "Good news for Cyanogenmod users, according to their blog it looks like 10.1 is nearing its stable release. 'We haven't used the "Release Candidate" nomenclature since the ICS days, but we feel the 10.1 branch is quickly approaching the point where a "final" build is due. To prepare for that eventuality, RC1 builds for CyanogenMod 10.1.0 are now landing on our servers! This will be one of (if not the last) milestone releases before a 10.1.0 is pushed out. These builds will appear as they complete the build process and, as always, you can download the builds via get.cm!' Android Police speculates that this is due in part to the rumored release announcement of Android 4.3 given at Google I/O 2013 which is taking place in (now) less than one week. Looks like the Android community will have a lot to talk about in coming days!"

124 comments

  1. Looking forward to 4.3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Been running 4.2.2 on my samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 since i bought it. Fantastic and always been very stable.

    1. Re:Looking forward to 4.3 by keneng · · Score: 2

      while you're at it, install the f-droid and lildebi android apps. This will permit to install full debian onto your cyanogen. After that you can install golang into your debian.

    2. Re:Looking forward to 4.3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This will permit to install full debian onto your cyanogen.

      Why?

       

      After that you can install golang into your debian.

      Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy???

  2. Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by jez9999 · · Score: 2

    My device (HTC Desire S) still only has "official" support for Cyanogenmod 7. Slightly out of date, I'd say. Actually, most devices aren't going to get CM10 for a long time, if ever. Just a few ones the devs happen to like.

    1. Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by alen · · Score: 4, Informative

      How old is the desire s now?

      Smartphones age in dog years

    2. Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      As does your mom.

    3. Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Informative

      Cyanogenmod is its own flavor of android. If your particular phone has been modified in such ways that it needs a special flavor of android to work (and granted, most do in the US) then you will need a special flavor of Cyanogenmod. This is not the CM communities problem, nor are they the ones working on your port. Getting it to work on your phone likely isn't nearly as complicated as you think it is (I had to hack one together myself) though you risk bricking your phone if you're not careful. There are less deadly mistakes as well, like getting the modem or media texting screwed up and not realizing that your boss has been trying to call you for 2 days strait. But you can do it yourself if you want.

      Your best bet is to buy a phone that doesn't have a contract and has vanilla android on it. Then you wont need these special builds.

    4. Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? It still works, doesn't it?

      Why should we accept that we won't even get security patches for slightly older devices?

    5. Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by Nemyst · · Score: 1

      For the same reason that we're not expected to support Pentium IIs and Windows 98. Things move on. The Desire S was a single core 1GHz machine with 768MB of RAM. Modern machines are quad core 1.5GHz with 2GB of RAM. You can't expect the same software to scale to this large a discrepancy.

    6. Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      My device (HTC Desire S) still only has "official" support for Cyanogenmod 7.

      So? My device (SEMC Xperia Play) has lagging official support, but the FreeXperia project provides fairly high-quality CM releases for the Xperia range... Doesn't your Desire S? And if not, why not? Doesn't anyone care?

      I snark this as a prior owner of an HTC Raphael 110. It was possible to boot GB on it (via "GBX" project) but it was pretty lousy even though in theory performance ought to have been acceptable. But, I sold it on eBay for $50 (buy it now, I might have been able to get more!) and I bought my Xperia Play for the same amount. It came with 2.3.4, runs 2.3.7 very well, and is capable of running ICS or JB just fine albeit with some problems with game controller support. If support for your device is lagging, it might be worthwhile to try to find a fixer-upper replacement, and sell your old device to someone unreasonably married to the platform to pay for it.

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    7. Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just got 10.1 RC1 on my "old" samsung galaxy S1 which come with 1GHz cpu and 512MB of RAM..

      The HTC Desire S is out of luck for other reasons obviously

    8. Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by danbob999 · · Score: 2

      The Desire S was not a very popular smartphone. The Galaxy S is older and supported.

    9. Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only US phones that come with vanilla android are Nexus devices. Those are not made for every carrier simultaneously. Even worse, they don't come in a qwerty keyboard variant, which I consider a necessity.

    10. Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by bemymonkey · · Score: 1

      "Why should we accept that we won't even get security patches for slightly older devices?"

      You shouldn't. Your anger should be directed at HTC though - not the CM team.

    11. Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by DrXym · · Score: 1

      More likely it's the devices that devs own and reasonably expect the os to work on. It'd be nice to sport CM10 on my HTC desire but if it's even possible I suspect it would be impossibly tight and would still necessitate smearing firmware across an SD partition.

    12. Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by kthreadd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So true. It's a shame that the original manufacturer won't support a device that came out just two years ago (HTC Desire S came out in 2011 if I'm correct).

      It's sad that the open alternative can't support it.

      In the meantime, the latest version of Apple iOS supports iPhones released back into 2009 with iPhone 3GS. If you bought the latest iPhone available in 2009, you would still get the latest OS today almost four years later.

      I *really* hope that the phone manufacturers will just drop the idea that everything that's not an x86 has to be specialized locked down hardware. It's a computer, start treating it like one.

    13. Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's not the fault of the folks at CM though. Android massively jumped in install size between 2.3 and 4.0.

      The on board Flash on the Desire S was cramped for installing apps on 2.3, it simply can't fit 4.0

    14. Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rockin an original epic 4g variant of the galaxy s here. It's CM mainlined so got RC1 and will probably get KLP. Think it's maybe over 3yr old now.

    15. Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by oergiR · · Score: 1

      Android 4.0 runs fine on the Desire S with the ROM from HTCDev.

      The surprising thing here is that HTC has actually supported the phone for longer than Cyanogenmod.

    16. Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by mspohr · · Score: 2

      Problem with iOS upgrades is that the phone becomes crippled by bloatware and you need a new phone.

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    17. Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Cyanogenmod isn't the only custom rom out there though. Looks like there are a few jellybean-based roms out there for you.

    18. Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      Heh. My Samsung Galaxy Nexus got dumped by my telco just a month after I took out the contract (despite the fact that the phone by then wasn't that old). So, needless to say, I became weary of the Waiting for Godot thing of hanging out for updates. Fortunately, a Nexus device is pretty easy to flash with a stock Jelly Bean ROM (I haven't found a use for Cyanogenmod at this point) which is enough for my needs.

      But what has made the biggest difference to the user experience is having rooted the device in order to (a) get rid of useless cruft like Google+ and YouTube apps, and (b) set up proper hosts-based adblocking so that my monthly traffic allowance doesn't get swallowed up with crap that I don't want.

      The take-home message (at least for my future reference) is to stay away from non-Nexus devices if you have any inclination to use your hardware in any way that your telco doesn't decree.

    19. Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by kthreadd · · Score: 1

      Actually, no. From what I've seen they are usually doing good work when rolling out updated to older devices. There have been a few that's not been optimal, such as iOS 4 on the 3G. But apart from that one it actually works just fine. There are many problems with iOS, but updates is not one of them.

    20. Re: Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by mspohr · · Score: 1

      The updates do run "fine" (for some definition of "fine) but both of my daughters have had iPhones for many years and found them unusable (sloooow) after an update or two so they ended up buying newer iPhones which could run the software better.

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    21. Re:Erm, yeah... "some" devices. by Noitatsidem · · Score: 1

      That's why there's unofficial ports around =P

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  3. permission spoofing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As someone who hasn't been running cyanogenmod but is interested in doing that, I have a question.

    Is permission spoofing (e.g, reporting bogus info about location/contacts/etc to prevent spying by apps) currently in or out of CM? I heard mixed things and wasn't sure.

    That is THE killer feature as far as I am concerned and is why I want to use something like CM.

    1. Re: permission spoofing? by SGT+CAPSLOCK · · Score: 3, Informative

      It isn't officially supported, but it is possible to patch CyanogenMod to allow information/permission spoofing. Research "openpdroid" (newest), pdroid2 (unmaintained), or pdroid (abandoned) for more info, as well as the "autopatcher" on XDA forums for a tool to patch already packaged CM/etc ROMs.

    2. Re:permission spoofing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Just get marketEnabler on any rooted phone, here's the description:
      "Market Enabler allows your device to pretend it's in another country, region, or telco. Why would you want to do this, you ask? Well, for one thing, it allows you to get around regional or telco-specific barriers in marketplace purchases such as on Google Play. If you really MUST have a particular app that isn't offered in your region, you might want to consider MarketEnabler."

  4. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Not really. If you are reading this site in the first place you probably know. Say 20% of people don't know (completely imaginary number), do you expect the editors to explain each thing every time just for that minority? Google is your friend.

  5. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you dont know what cyanogenmod is, then you really should not be here.

    Do you think all Linux related news should give a brief introduction to what the kernel is as well?

  6. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    If you dont know what cyanogenmod is, then you really should not be here.

    If you don't want to sound like a condescending douchebag, then you really shouldn't be posting here.

    This is, ostensibly, a news site. It deals in information. If (as is the usual complaint when this comes up) you should "just Google it," you've just lost people to Google and any of the myriad better written pieces.

    Yes, it's at base a subjective call as to what to define and what not to, but when all it takes is a few words inserted in the proper, subtle, journalistic fashion, and it doesn't happen, you end up leaving readers feeling excluded.

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  7. Cyanogenmod is a great project! by Fifth+of+Five · · Score: 2

    I've been running 10.1 experimental on my HP TouchPad for a while and it's been fairly stable. Can't wait for the RC! My company has resurrected about two dozen TouchPads thanks to Cyanogenmod. Ghu love the folks who put their time and effort into this project!

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    1. Re: Cyanogenmod is a great project! by Fifth+of+Five · · Score: 1

      Not terribly bright, are you?

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  8. Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? by Fifth+of+Five · · Score: 1

    To be fair, I only discovered Cyanogenmod about two months ago when my boss handed me a case of HP TouchPads and asked me if we could do anything with them. I'm a Windows Server monkey, but searching for "Android on TouchPad" led me straight to it.

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  9. I actually liked ICS better than Jelly Bean by Picass0 · · Score: 2

    CM specific - Some of the release canidates suffered from echos during calls, poor mic pick up. If you notice the other party on your call having problems hearing you speak it's a known issue on some devices.

    Stability and battery life have been very good w/ recent CM 10.1 RCs.

    This isn't unique to Cycanogenmod but I HATE how JB handles Wallpapers now. Whatever image you pick is cropped in the shape of a "t". WTF? There's live wallpaper apps that workaround this, but it's a stupid change. BOOOOooooo.....

    1. Re:I actually liked ICS better than Jelly Bean by Ravadill · · Score: 2

      Try Quickpic (free on google play) not only is it the best image viewer I've used, it also has it's own set as wallpaper feature that lets you crop images as a standard rectangle, or you can use Nova launcher (also free on play) which will let you set wallpapers as the standard T or as a square.

    2. Re:I actually liked ICS better than Jelly Bean by Picass0 · · Score: 1

      Looking at the scores on out comment history I have a better track record than you. Very few of your comments get upvotes. I would say "no one cares" about your negative, piss poor attitude comments.

    3. Re:I actually liked ICS better than Jelly Bean by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      well you win then, how does it feel to know that your pointless off topic comments gain more attention, thus dumbing down slashdot?

    4. Re:I actually liked ICS better than Jelly Bean by Picass0 · · Score: 1

      I've been using Cyanogemmod and gave some thought on my experience. On topic.

      You wandered in here with your PMS like a 4chan tard who got lost.

      Your mom wants her iPad back.

      .

    5. Re:I actually liked ICS better than Jelly Bean by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      no you bitched and whined like a 4 year old about wallpaper and is now making a stink cause precious you has to be in the right

      go fuck yourself,

      no
      one
      cares

    6. Re:I actually liked ICS better than Jelly Bean by Picass0 · · Score: 1

      OK Princess, I concede. You can say you're the winner. I'd hate for your low self esteem to be damaged any further. You might become an even bigger asshole and that's difficult to imagine.

      Hey everybody! Osgeld won an argument on Slashdot! Life goal achieved!!!

    7. Re:I actually liked ICS better than Jelly Bean by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      oh no you clearly won, you are the one that had to take a snarky but true comment and make it god damed thread of the year, you clearly have a higher slashdot score than I do so you can die knowing your children's children have a epic legacy of some fuckwit keeping score on a website while calling people names and winning.

      +1 slashdots, how does that feel, get a parade yet?

      pathetic ... and we still dont give a holy fuck about your wallpaper experience

  10. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by meddle99 · · Score: 2

    News for nerds. Any decent nerd knows what cyanogenmod is. If every term was explained in every article, nobody would want to read them. TFA also does not explain "Amdroid", "ICS", or "Android." Consider what a boorishly long article it would be if it did. CNN and Fox News don't explain the word "sequestration" or "murder" in every article. There is a certain level of understanding you expect your audience to have.

  11. Will it actually install this time? by Gothmolly · · Score: 1

    I have a Galaxy Tab 2 and there's about 50 different cookbook methods for installing CM, none of which work.

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    1. Re:Will it actually install this time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had issues when trying to install it on Tab 2. Here is my experience:
      http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/72384-question-on-installing-cm-on-new-device/

      Working fine with fantastic battery life. I use WiFi occasionally, and I don't use a SIM or 3G :P

    2. Re:Will it actually install this time? by Pubstar · · Score: 1

      Have you tried using Odin yet? It was the only way I could get my T-999 S3 to take Cyanogenmod.

    3. Re:Will it actually install this time? by Noitatsidem · · Score: 1

      I've had nothing but great experiences using Odin. Of course, I've also grown to love the ROM Manager app, which allows me to keep CWM up to date (I got the premium version for CWM touch, which I've grown to love)

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  12. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by iggymanz · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    " Any decent nerd knows what cyanogenmod is"?

    Actually, no, there are more kinds of nerds interested in a broader range of subjects than in the little world between your very closely spaced ears. Even most Android users don't change the firmware of their devices, they have better things to do with their time.

  13. Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would it kill you to define "Android" like any respectable publication would? Yes, yes, I know - "if you don't know you shouldn't be allowed to read Slashdot" - but then that's exclusionist bullshit, obviously. I know it's a popular open source Linux build, but just because I know, and just because you know, that doesn't mean that everyone who comes here should know, and that anyone who doesn't is beneath contempt. It is possible to be interested in tech news and not know every detail of every branch.

    Would it kill you to define "Linux" ...

  14. Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, yes, I know - "if you don't know you shouldn't be allowed to read Slashdot" - but then that's exclusionist bullshit, obviously.

    That would be exclusionist bullshit, but that is not the bar. How are you getting along with that straw man? The bar is if you can't use Google and Wikipedia, you shouldn't be allowed to use the internet. There is just no risk that if you ask google or wikipedia what cyanogenmod is that you will not find out immediately. If asking wikipedia doesn't even lead to a disambiguation page, then you have no excuse for not being able to find out what it is. If it doesn't mean anything to you when you read the summary, then the story is not for you. Move on, and quit your juvenile bitching.

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  15. Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? by ne0n · · Score: 1

    CM is like H-D. If we have to explain it, you won't understand.

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  16. Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is possible to be interested in tech news and not know every detail of every branch.

    Yeah, it's also possible to not read articles with subjects you know (or care) little about.

  17. Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know it's a popular open source Android build, but just because I know, and just because you know, that doesn't mean that everyone who comes here should know, and that anyone who doesn't is beneath contempt.

    Okay, you know what it means. But do you seriously have that much contempt for the average Slashdot user that you think they're incapable of looking something up for themselves?

  18. Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? by cas2000 · · Score: 0, Troll

    please define 'google' and 'wikipedia'. and what's an 'internet'?

    it's unfair and exclusionist of you to use such technobabble jargon without defining them.

    also, i'm not clear on what 'straw' or 'man' are. you need to define them too. in grunts of one syllable or less.

  19. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by ozmanjusri · · Score: 3, Informative

    Select unfamiliar word, right-click and select "Search Google for unfamiliar word" from the context menu.

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  20. I wish by kelemvor4 · · Score: 3

    I wish some company would just sell a phone with cyanogen on it stock.

    1. Re:I wish by bemymonkey · · Score: 2

      Just buy the current Nexus (in this case, the Nexu 4) phone. CyanogenMod is pretty much tweaked stock Android, which is exactly what you get on a Nexus, and the CM team develops on the current flagship Nexus, so you'll be getting the latest CM versions for as long as possible, and installation of CM on a Nexus is easy as pie.

    2. Re:I wish by purpledinoz · · Score: 1

      I wish phone companies would sell a phone with stable firmware. I bought an LG Optimus 2x, and my phone crashed 10 minutes after I turned on the phone for the first time. Also, there was a memory leak, where the phone slowed to a crawl if it wasn't rebooted after a few days. But luckily, the frequent crashes meant that the phone wouldn't make it past a few days without a reboot anyway. Without CM, I would have bought a Samsung by now.

    3. Re:I wish by Threni · · Score: 1

      I wish Samsung would release docs/source for the Exynos varieties of the Galaxy S3 so Cyanogenmod on it wasn't such a woeful experience.

    4. Re:I wish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or get a HTC. Check htcdev.com for their support,

      HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, due to some of our carrier customers concerns, certain models with specific restrictions may not be able to be unlocked. Please refer to our list of supported devices to see if your device is eligible for unlocking the bootloader.

      HTC supports you with a tool to unlock the bootloader and in the download section you can find a list of kernel source code.

      (Disclaimer: I have not tried HTC yet but I am seriously considering it as my first smartphone, my Siemens A60 is getting a bit old now...)

    5. Re:I wish by bemymonkey · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, HTC is one of the biggest culprits here. Check out a few posts above - the person having issues with his phone not being updated already has an HTC Desire S.

    6. Re:I wish by Noitatsidem · · Score: 1

      For the first time in the history of history, I'm glad I have the dual core variant o.o

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  21. Re:Bug Alert by Anastomosis · · Score: 3

    Android: Highly likely to be the most popular smartphone OS among slashdot readers.
    Cyanogenmod: One of the most popular (if not the most popular) ROMs for Android.
    Not so obscure.

  22. Not as happy with CM as I could be. by aussersterne · · Score: 2

    I switched to Android from iOS earlier this year specifically to get a bigger screen and widgets (Galaxy Note).

    The Samsung ROM was horrifically slow and ugly and filled with unremovable apps I didn't want, plus it contacted the AT&T mothership constantly even though I don't use AT&T and the phone is unlocked.

    So I downloaded a CM10.1 experimental build. It was guaranteed to spontaneously reboot during the first 5-10 second of any placed or received call.

    So I wiped and downgraded to CM10 stable. This one lets me make calls, but randomly reboots at least half a dozen times a day.

    My first experience with Android phones (and it has been expensive in terms of learning curve to get rooted/installed) has not been pleasing. Android may be more flexible, offer larger screen devices, and have more active hacking community surrounding it, but first and foremost, I want to be able to rely on my device.

    I'm now trying to decide whether to revert back to the Samsung ROM (Jelly Bean was finally just released for the i717 on the 3rd) and see if that restores the stability of the original Samsung ROM (though no doubt it will also restore the ugliness, slowness, and bloat) or try out a CM10.1 nightly...or just sell the device and get another iPhone and jailbreak it, even without widgets and a big screen.

    I should say that my experience with cheap-ass Android tablets from China has been much better. They run stock and are stable and fast. But the phone thing is killing me.

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    1. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just root a stock Samsung install of JB and use something like Titanium Backup to uninstall the bloatware. Should get you where you want to go without too much hassle.

    2. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear Lord, you're putting beta ROMS on our phone and you're having issues. Please, just stick to your stock ROM and replace the TouchWiz launcher with Nova or Apex launcher and everything will be good. Inexperienced people shouldn't play with roms.

    3. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by Pubstar · · Score: 1

      It took me 3 hours to root and install Cyanogenmod with no prior knowledge on how to do so. I did soft brick my phone 3 times in the process though. The only thing I can think to ask is if you're using the right build. There could be a ton if different models under the same name. There are at least 6 models of the GS3.

    4. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by Threni · · Score: 2

      Depends on your budget/requirements. Why not get an S3/S4 or Nexus 4? I've stopped playing with Cyanogenmod because I have an S3 which a) isn't supported very well by Cyanogenmod, but more importantly b) doesn't need a replacement OS. The Nexus 4 is plain Android, but it's plain Android 4 which is great, and you'll get any updates first. But Android is more or less done now - once you're on some flavour of 4 (4.1/4.2) you're good to go. Fragmentation/worrying about rooting/bricking etc is only a problem/issue if you've got some older phone which is stuck on Android 2.x and you're too cheap to get a new smartphone (or just don't need one - but this is Slashdot after all!).

    5. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      try the nightlies and fill out bug reports

    6. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the ui, if you can call it that because it's certainly not user oriented, is terrible. I'm running cm10.1-rc1 for three days now on my s3 and I don't have a single issue

    7. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by horza · · Score: 1

      I have a Galaxy Note2, and rooting it was as simple as double clicking on a file. Took me 1 minute. Installing a new rom took me a good 5 minutes. There are plenty of sites for this like this one. I really enjoy my custom rom, it's called du@lNote, never had a random reboot ever. Or if you want something simple there is CleanROM. There is a good lists here.

      Phillip.

    8. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bluetooth Low Energy is going to be supported in 4.3. That's what all the sensor type devices will be using. That's one reason right there to want that version.

    9. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      It really is a shame and is somewhat the fault of the massive ecosystem. When you have hundreds of devices you attempt to support from a small community you ultimately end up with bugs. I would suggest not giving up. For your sad story of an unreliable phone there have been hundreds of perfectly happy Android users. If you stick to the most popular devices with a very standard set of hardware (Samsung Galaxy Series, or Nexus devices) you ultimately end up with quite a reliable device. I ran early nightly alpha builds of CM10 on my Galaxy S and aside from the list of known faults (reverse camera upsidedown, wifi sleeping not working etc) which were all worked on and fixed the phone has been rock solid.

      By the way Samsung suck at writing software but really excel in making hardware. The Samsung Galaxy S was the only phone with a file system that was so slow that an I/O operation could cause the Android system to think the application was locked up and force close it. Yes they are that bad at writing software.

    10. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      first and foremost, I want to be able to rely on my device.

      Congratulations. You have discovered why iOS devices are so popular. They "just work".

    11. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by Noitatsidem · · Score: 1

      I've had nothing but good experiences with even the more recent CM 10.1 nightlies on my Galaxy S3, the RC builds are definitely stable enough for day to day use (at least on the GS3, although I don't see why the Note would suffer from any major bugs this far along in development - I used to have similar issues to what you described with the rebooting during calls, for me at least these were resolved long ago).

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    12. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by Noitatsidem · · Score: 1

      Lol, tell that to the people complaining about the whole "X stopped working after iTunes made me install update Y" which has been plaguing iOS devices the past few months.

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    13. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I happen to like Android 4, and if you're having no issues with the S3 then you're either on the dual-core (non-exynos) version, or you're happy with shit camera functionality, because it's pretty harsh. I tried it but had to go back to stock.

    14. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      You have discovered why iOS devices are so popular. They "only just work, and even then only if you hold them right".

      FTFY

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    15. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by strikethree · · Score: 1

      The Samsung ROM was horrifically slow and ugly and filled with unremovable apps I didn't want, plus it contacted the AT&T mothership constantly even though I don't use AT&T and the phone is unlocked.

      So I wiped and downgraded to CM10 stable. This one lets me make calls, but randomly reboots at least half a dozen times a day.

      I assume you are talking about the AT&T Galaxy Note using the quincyatt rom.

      The Jelly Bean versions all have severe issues, especially with the camera app; however, if you go to XDA developers forums and use a custom ROM based off of CM 10, you should be okay.

      For myself, ICS was the most stable version... but even then, I had some really tough times until I upgraded the modem firmware.

      If you are having rebooting issues, try doing a full wipe (including /system) through TWRP and then fresh installing (do not use any backups of your apps) a ROM. One additional procedure I tried which may (but probably not) have helped was to let the phone do its initial boot without touching anything. Let it sit for a few minutes and then reboot it. Once it boots back up, then go through the standard setting up procedures.

      I finally got my Note to be extremely stable but battery life was still a problem until I tried the Blackstar ROM. I should check which governor it uses and see if CM will also save as much battery power.

      Good luck sir.

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    16. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by aussersterne · · Score: 1

      The random reboots in the supposedly stable CM10 were what really bugged me. Wiped the phone completely, including all caches, etc. before installing.

      Sometimes I'd be working at the desk and see it reboot 5 or 6 times over an afternoon, just sitting there. Not good.

      Have CM10.1 RC1 installed now, and it hasn't rebooted on me once, but the UI speed is horrible compared to CM10. Blah.

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    17. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by aussersterne · · Score: 1

      This may be the most useful response I've had yet about the phone.

      Unfortunately, it's still within the context of the Android ecosystem. My search on Teh Google for "Blackstar ROM" does not turn up info or a link for the canonical latest version, just a lot of spamsite references that don't tell me what's the latest, who puts the ROM out, etc.

      Got any links?

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    18. Re:Not as happy with CM as I could be. by strikethree · · Score: 1

      I apologize. I should have provided links to start with. The most important link for you is to the XDA forums. That is where ALL of the interesting stuff is discussed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493

      The Blackstar ROM I was discussing can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1676086

      The forum Android Development will be full of ROMs modified at the binary level (like Blackstar).

      The forum Original Android Development will be full of ROMs modified at the source code level (like CyanogenMod).

      I recommend ensuring that you have the latest modem firmware installed as the original firmware that was on my phone was absolutely terrible. You can find whatever the latest is via the XDA forums.

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  23. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by Hadlock · · Score: 1

    We should probably include summaries of what companies like Cisco, Microsoft, Intel and IBM do in each story as well then. Cyanogenmod is probably a B or C tier brand name, but it's in no way unfamiliar.

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  24. Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? by Molochi · · Score: 1

    Well anyone could just Google it. So any assburger level Slashdot user should be expected to. CM is not remotely obscure. If you Google the initials CM it is the third result... right after centimeter and a Wikipedia disambiguation page.

    Of course just actually Googling Cyanogenmod, only produces relevant results.

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  25. Re:Bug Alert by Molochi · · Score: 1

    You so funny. ha ha ha.

    But while we're laughing, we should exclude other obscure dev projects with smaller install bases like Win 8, Redhat, and all of the BSDs.

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  26. Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? by Threni · · Score: 1

    Yeah, they keep mentioning "Linux" here too - I don't have the first clue what that is. I'm beginning to think Slashdot is some sort of tech site for people with a bit of intelligence, knowledge and self-motivation.

  27. Great so far. Previous monthly was shit though. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Running 10.1 RC1 on my Galaxy Nexus now, it uses a lot less memory than the M3 monthly snapshot (450 vs 600 MB). So my phone is a lot snappier now.

  28. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by magic+maverick+ · · Score: 2

    This doesn't work in Lynx. Do you have another method?

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  29. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

    Indeed. It seems there's lately been something of a rash of these complaints about terms not being spelt out. This one should be pretty much common knowledge in this forum, but if not, a search brings up a comprehensive result at the very top of the page. I'm getting a bit weary of such abject slothfulness.

  30. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by meddle99 · · Score: 1

    "Even most Android users don't change the firmware of their devices"

    User != Nerd. And you should really give decaf a shot. It's just as good. Really!

  31. Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    But do you seriously have that much contempt for the average Slashdot user that you think they're incapable of looking something up for themselves?

    No, I just don't think they should always have to when a niche project like Cyanogenmod gets mentioned.

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  32. Samsung Galaxy S2 by stkris · · Score: 1

    I can't find a download for my trusty old SGS2. Am I beeing dense or does it not exist?

    1. Re:Samsung Galaxy S2 by Noitatsidem · · Score: 1

      That could be the wrong variation of it, there are about 20 of them after all (okay, not quite). But yeah, the GS2 is definitely still getting updates.

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  33. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope. That's the only one. Sorry.

    If you're a Lynx user and can't figure that out... welcome to 2013. You must have been asleep for 15 years.

  34. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whats "google"? Please explain!

  35. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    yes, I agree that's what the editors should be doing.

  36. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    Nerd != cell phone firmware diddler

    I don't drink coffee

  37. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

    It would be nice to be told what the differences are between 10.0 and 10.1. I just upgraded last night. The camera seems slightly different, and the lockscreen is slightly different too. Really the biggest change I'm seeing so far is that I need to update gapps.

    This doesn't seem to be the summary's fault. Wikipedia essentially only says it's based on android 4.2.

  38. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

    I don't drink coffee

    Well, maybe you should start. It might keep you awake enough to stay current with fairly major aspects of this technology, given that you are obviously interested enough to pursue this thread thus far. ;P

  39. Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

    No, it's just that (in the case of H-D) if you tried, everybody would kill themselves laughing. Sorry, but by the time you're old enough to ride a motorcycle, you shouldn't need a pram.

  40. tenderloin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you still have an HP TouchPad, there's an experimental Cyanogenmod build for it - installed side-by-side with WebOS.

  41. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    This doesn't work in Lynx. Do you have another method?

    Yes, subscribe to the monthly printed digest version of Slashdot, which includes a glossary of unfamiliar terms in the back. Contact the subscription department for further information.

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  42. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gopher:// cyanogen

  43. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by Noitatsidem · · Score: 1

    I actually agree with you, since I wrote the article I consider this to be good feedback, in retrospect I should have described briefly what Cyanogenmod is, aside from some formatting changes my post was pretty much unedited. Granted, one can probably figure out what Cyanogenmod is through the context (talking about android releases and whatnot), it should be made clearer for people who don't, or wouldn't know what it is (say iOS/WP users). So thanks for the feedback, I intend on being more clear for future articles I write.

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  44. Re:Would it kill you to define "Cyanogenmod"? by Noitatsidem · · Score: 1

    I agree with you, and thanks for the feedback on my first article. It's really about asking yourself "what level of understanding do I expect the reader to have right off the bat, and how can I concisely put in possibly useful information into the article?" I've found this to be an enlightening experience, and look forward to posting articles in the future, and learning from the mistakes I've made as I go.

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  45. CM10 by Ragnustus · · Score: 1

    I am currently running CM10 on my HTC One S. The main problem that I have noticed is the battery drain that my phone has with CM10 Stable.

  46. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    boorishly

    That word doesn't mean what you think it does.

  47. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    What isn't common knowledge is what the equivalent version of standard Android is. Is there actually a system? If there's a pattern I haven't spotted it yet.

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  48. Re:And on a well-edited nerd news site by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    I'm busy staying current with about a dozen other technologies at the moment. Maybe another year...

    what I am interested in, is the attitude of a geek/nerd in one niche assuming all other geek/nerds would have knowledge of their niche, and moreover being astounded that someone else would not be familiar with their niche. Submitting and editing stories making such assumptions lowers the quality and usefulness of a purported technical news site.

  49. Three hours is VERY expensive by aussersterne · · Score: 1

    in my world. I don't have three hours to spend on my phone during any given fiscal quarter, much less any given day. Maybe I could dedicate three hours a year to phone maintenance, but it's seriously a problem for Android.

    I'm using the i717 builds of CM. Just reverted back to CM10.1 RC1 and it seems relatively stable—but the lag is awful.

    Still not particularly happy w/Android...

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  50. The only reason I switched by aussersterne · · Score: 1

    was to get the phablet size—it was between an iPad Mini with calls using Talkatone and the Galaxy Note series. I went "small" w/the Note series...but I'm within a week or two of just chucking it on eBay and getting the iPad Mini after all.

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  51. There's two much cr@p to wade through. by aussersterne · · Score: 1

    Sure, it takes a minute or two to actually install a ROM, but the time spent crawling Teh Google just to learn what the Android ecosystem looks like (i.e. that there is something called CyanogenMod, and where to get it, and so on) is expensive. Increases exponentially if you want to look at other ROMs.

    People keep saying "try another ROM" and all that kind of stuff, but just finding download links is like playing 'net tag. I don't have (or want to have) the time for this nonsense.

    If there was a single source of links that was a portal, not a forum to wade through like XDA, Android would be far ahead of where it is.

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  52. Yeah, I like the hardware well enough. by aussersterne · · Score: 1

    And while it's not rebooting, CM10 on the i717 is pretty sweet. But the damned thing needs to work.

    When you're on the phone to international clients, you don't want spontaneous reboots and callbacks. It's just not good business.

    I need a phone to work. So far, Android is not fitting the bill. But there's another week or two of patience left in me. We'll see how CM10.1 RC1 does, though so far it's laggy as hell.

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  53. Yup. I'm torn— by aussersterne · · Score: 1

    just works, but without the features that I want, vs. the features that I want that just don't work. :-P

    I said in a comment in another story that I wish the universe would cough up a marriage of the iOS ecosystem and the Android ecosystem—all of the features, all of the stability.

    For very sound empirical reasons, this is unlikely to happen. But good to dream.

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  54. If I could solve the problems with my i717 by aussersterne · · Score: 1

    by putting on a bumper, there would be a much greater chance of me keeping it.

    As it is, I have a case on it, but it drops calls anyway and I can't even do an immediate callback because for the first minute it's busy booting.

    You could make the case that there's a parallel there, but the difference is in the degrees.

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