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Records Labels Prepare Massive 'Pirate Site' Domain Blocking Blitz

An anonymous reader writes "In their ongoing battle against websites said to infringe music copyrights, record labels have initiated a fresh wave of actions aimed at forcing UK ISPs to carry out domain blocking. This third wave is set to be the biggest so far, affecting as many as 25 domains and including some of the world's largest torrent sites and file-hosting search engines. Furthermore, the BPI – the entity coordinating the action – will ask courts to block U.S.-based music streaming operation, Grooveshark."

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  1. Good luck with that by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Domain blocking has been so successful already. No one will figure out how to use alternative DNS servers, or simply type in the IP address manually.

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    1. Re:Good luck with that by Anubis350 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Or the sites will just move domains/set up alternate domains, as has happened with thepiratebay, eztv, and demonoid just off the top of my head

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    2. Re:Good luck with that by CodeHxr · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Domain blocking has been so successful already. No one will figure out how to use alternative DNS servers, or simply type in the IP address manually.

      I already compile a list of IPs for sites I like to frequent - white hat, black hat, or otherwise.

    3. Re:Good luck with that by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Domain blocking has been so successful already. No one will figure out how to use alternative DNS servers, or simply type in the IP address manually.

      Doesn't matter, it's all about training governments to bend over whenever they say so. They'll be back again soon, with bigger demands.

      PS: Thanks, RIAA, for letting me know about Grooveshark...

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    4. Re:Good luck with that by gmuslera · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That they are targetting grooveshark (and so warning players of the same league) gives a hint of what is their target, that the majority of people get free/pretty cheap alternatives to their offering, be legal or not.

      If the people behind the idea of the flat earth had their kind of power back in their days to push their views on the masses we would be living in a pretty interesting (but weird) world by now.

    5. Re:Good luck with that by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Funny

      As do I - I'd tell you where I keep that list (and a backup copy of it), but I don't feel like summoning APK.

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    6. Re:Good luck with that by interkin3tic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They don't need to make it impossible for EVERYONE, just the people who are dumb enough to buy the music they're selling. The "Taylor Swift" listening tweens who make up most of the market will get frustrated after one attempt and will go back to buying it on itunes. At least that's probably the powerpoint math that went behind this.

      Full disclosure, I'm listening to Taylor Swift right now. That's right, I just called myself dumb and am admitting to listening to "Trouble" by Taylor Swift.

    7. Re:Good luck with that by Falkentyne · · Score: 5, Funny

      Full disclosure, I'm listening to Taylor Swift right now. That's right, I just called myself dumb and am admitting to listening to "Trouble" by Taylor Swift.

      Please mod parent down and parent's parents should be modded down too for allowing this to happen.

    8. Re:Good luck with that by martinX · · Score: 4, Funny

      A Swedish VPN once bit my sister ...

          No realli! She was Karving her initials on the Swedish VPN
          with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given
          her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Stockholm dentist and
          star of many Swedish møvies: "The Høt Hands of a Stockholm
          Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst
          Nordfink".

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    9. Re:Good luck with that by girlintraining · · Score: 2

      Or the sites will just move domains/set up alternate domains, as has happened with thepiratebay, eztv, and demonoid just off the top of my head

      Why even bother? You can either install plugins off the Firefox site that'll do it for you, or just use Tor to access the site from one of the 150 other countries that aren't retarded. Once you have the magnet URI, the rest is distributed, and there's no amount of DNS tomfoolery that'll stop that.

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    10. Re:Good luck with that by Blue+Stone · · Score: 2

      The blocks in the UK don't use (just) DNS. You can type in the direct IP address of the Pirate Bay and get no connection.

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    11. Re:Good luck with that by Hypotensive · · Score: 2

      It's British ISPs - Taylor Swift listeners in Britain probably wouldn't fill a bus shelter.

  2. Re:Once again SUCKMERICA bullying the world by MitchDev · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While I hope the labels and all their executive die horrible deaths, copyright is rather international. So it's not just "American" companies with a stake in the game.

  3. What a coincidence! by decipher_saint · · Score: 5, Funny

    My wallet is going on a record label blocking blitz

    Life sure is funny sometimes.

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    1. Re:What a coincidence! by Penguinisto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Mine's been doing that for years.

      As a bonus, it has the beneficial effect of leaving me more money for other, more worthy goodies.

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  4. Re:Cory Doctorow much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Cory lives in the UK, he became a naturalized British citizen in 2011 iirc.

  5. Another ridiculous situation by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is yet another ridiculous situation, stupid enough that it makes me wonder why such situations exist.

    If a website is illegal (for any definition of illegal, including terrorism, pornography, and IP violations), then it should be judged illegal by a court in country with reference to the specific law that the site violates. That country can then mandate that ISPs in that country block that specific website, the government can ask the government of the registrar or hosting company to take action, the government can identify people who access the site and charge them with a crime.

    Illegal is illegal, but this thing about "anyone can take action if they think something is illegal" is ludicrous. Letting business advocacy groups, unelected government bureaucrats, and random government departments to suddenly state "we're the governing authority, this is illegal, we're pulling your plug" is complete bullshit. Government departments can certainly make such pronouncements, but should be required to act only with court approval. For instance, if the State Department wants Defense Distributed to take their plans offline, it should get a court order.

    The courts exist to protect our rights. Taking action without judicial process is an end-run around those rights, and shouldn't be allowed.

    1. Re:Another ridiculous situation by m.ducharme · · Score: 2

      My reading of the summary is that they are going to the courts in the UK to get the courts to enforce their little list against the ISPs. My clue was the submitter's use of the word "action" which is legal jargon for a law suit.

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  6. You should call it Namecoin! by Comboman · · Score: 2

    Yeah, that sounds messy, but perhaps claiming a name could revolve around some sort of bitcoin style "mining" service. That would help prevent mass registration and squatting (At least to an extent)

    That's such a good idea that I bet someone else already thought of it.

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  7. Re:They don't care. by Ioldanach · · Score: 2

    There aren't enough of you for a boycott to make any difference.

    Besides, they've already presumed that if you're not buying, it is because you're infringing.

  8. Re:Time to consider an alternate/supliment DNS roo by Cenan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The worst problem with the central server approach is not squatting, that is a minor annoyance to some people's vanity. The worst problem with the central server is that it is a central server, and thus is vulnerable to whomever has juristiction over the physical location it resides in. However, a peer-to-peer solution (as they look right now) is much worse. There are two major problems with a P2P approach to DNS, that you don't have with the central server.

    1) Privacy: when requesting a lookup, you're telling an arbitrary number of strangers which site you would like to visit next. With the server, you're only telling the server, but this is a trust issue and can be resolved. The P2P approach by it's nature cannot be trusted.
    2) Poisoning: all you'd have to do to poison a swarm is join it, and start pushing bogus replies to requests. There is no barrier like with a central DNS server, which you'd have to hack into in order to poison.

    An approach like you suggest is a central DNS server in disguise and not really a solution to any problem, since you get the worst of both worlds.

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  9. Its not the media comapnies that are the problem by future+assassin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    its those who buy their shit. Stop buying it and in 5 years they`ll all fold.

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  10. Re:They don't care. by CelticWhisper · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The problem with that is that they can "presume" all they want, but they still have less money coming in. Granted, it doesn't address the aforementioned issue of needing a critical mass of participants for the boycott to be successful, but the mere act of assuming a given cause for a reduced revenue stream doesn't magically restore the revenue stream to previous levels.

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  11. Youtube? by Sporkinum · · Score: 2

    I think they will have a hell of a time domain-blocking YouTube. It's trivial to grab all kinds of stuff there.

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    1. Re:Youtube? by martinX · · Score: 2

      That's what I was thinking. Full albums all over the place. 3 hour compilations. I was looking for Tull's 'Thick As A Brick' the other day, and there was the whole thing and it was a crystal clear rip of the original vinyl. Perfect.

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    2. Re:Youtube? by Sporkinum · · Score: 2

      Yeah.. I was looking for a digital version of some ancient vinyl I have. It's pretty obscure and never released on CD. I found half the tracks from album on youtube.

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  12. Run your own DNS server by houghi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Alternate DNS servers? I live in Belgium where they block (among others) TPB, so I just run my own.
    OK, I am able to configure my own named server. What is needed for others is an idiot proof DNS server that people can run on their local machine (so no remote connections allowed).

    And I talk about so easy, your grandma can install it and it runs by just double clicking. Something that is made for just local usage with as little configuration as possible. No need to be able to make any local domains. Just something so you do not need an external DNS server.

    Perhaps that already exists and it is just not commonly known.

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  13. Do people still pirate music? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I stopped pirating music years ago. I use rdio now... $10/month for (almost) all the music I want.

    I figured pirating music would have more-or-less disappeared by now.

  14. They've lost but their lawyers won't admit it by erroneus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They can't stop the internet without hurting themselves and a lot of other legitimate business. And continuing to sue customers? Is it really working out for them? Perhaps all the settlements which never reach the news does make it all worthwhile.

    What little [music downloading/sharing] there is going on now can't really be worth the effort in my opinion. There are lots and lots of paying customers out there. I seriously doubt the "bad guys" even come close to the numbers of legitimate customers. They should be paying marketers to improve the number of customers instead of lawyers to leech off of people who don't have money to spend.

  15. first HOST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A toast to the ghost who can boast the most HOSTS.

  16. Re:Once again SUCKMERICA bullying the world by flayzernax · · Score: 2

    It's not only about the copyrighted information. It's also about public domain, and GNU like, or MIT like licenses. It's about the free flow of information. Copyright is just convenient for them to attack means of distributing information freely.

    The best way I can prop up this argument is to point out VCRs. VCRs were hardly used on the scale that torrents are to commit mass copyright infringement.

    Yet VCRs, 8 tracks, casettes where all targeted. Libaries were targeted. And with libraries, the works were being payed for and not distributed "freely" to anyone.