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LulzSec Hackers Sentenced To Short Prison Terms
mask.of.sanity writes with news of the jail sentences for three members of LulzSec. From the article: "Three members of the hacktivist group LulzSec have been sentenced to a total of six years in prison. Ryan Ackroyd, Jake Davis and Mustafa al-Bassam were charged with attacks on the Serious Organised Crime Agency, Sony, Nintendo, 20th Century Fox and governments and police forces in a 50-day spree in the summer of 2011. Davis was sentenced to 24 months in a young offender's institution and he will serve half of the sentence. Al-Bassam received a 20-month sentence, suspended for two years and 300 hours unpaid work. Ackroyd was given a 30-month sentence; he will serve half. Cleary also pleaded guilty to possession of child abuse images following a second arrest on October 4, 2012. He will be sentenced at separate hearing."
The Guardian has a short article on the remaining loose ends in the story of LulzSec.
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It's six years if you add up the maximum time for all three sentences combined. Two of them will only have to serve half of their time and the other one is getting no prison time at all. That seems pretty fair to me.
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He's not mentioned in the summary.
at least they didn't download some music or a movie while they were doing this. They may have had to pay millions in restitution as well...
Next time, read more than the first sentence in your quest to get first post.
Since when does being a Socialist mean 'someone who has a different opinion than me'?
Which is exactly what the criminals were hoping you'd say. Rather than say "each received sentences of 15-24 months," it packs more punch to word it ambiguously, and leave people feeling sorry for these punk kids who "got sentenced to up to 6 years in prison! For minor crimes!"
"24 months in a young offender's institution and he will serve half of the sentence" = 12 months in juvie. Poor kid, he'll have to leave his mom's basement for a year.
"20 month sentence, suspended for 2 years and 300 hours unpaid work" = keep out of trouble, and do 300 hours of community service over the next 2 years, and he doesn't go to prison at all.
"30 month sentence, he will serve half" = 15 months in prison. The harshest of the penalties, and still a pretty fucking light sentence.
Rape can get you imprisoned up to and including a life sentence in the UK, Not sure where you get that there's a "maximum of 5 years" for rape. In fact, the most lenient of the "starting points" and "typical ranges" list 5 years at the LOW end of the punishment, before aggravating/mitigating factors are considered.
tl;dr: fuck your idiotic ignorance of the law.
Don't you mean billions of dollars? If you're going to pull figures out of your ass you might as well go big.
Considering a trillion dollars worth of security fraud goes completely unpunished, this is way out of scale.
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County jail is worse than prison. And these are federal crimes, so they'll probably spend it in a federal prison.
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None of them are serving 6 years, the sum of their sentences is 6 years. Did you bother reading the summary?
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These aren't short prison terms by UK standards. It's uncommon to get sentenced to more than two years for computer crime. Ryan Cleary, who got the longest sentence, apparently ran a large botnet for hire, when he wasn't doing it for the lulz. Bot herders tend to get treated relatively severely (rightly so IMHO).
"It is not necessary for us to think we can do only one thing and suspend everything else."
- Barack Obama
Rape has a maximum sentence of life imprisonment in the UK
Well it is actually an average about 2 years of punishment, with most of them getting time out.
But if you think about it how much time should you really put someone in jail for in a white collar crime.
The idea of a Jail is more about keeping dangerous/people who will run away people in a place where they cannot escape to create more harm to the community.
For punishment a year or two in jail, is often enough to get the idea what you did was wrong, enough time to break you. Especially for kids where a year seems like a much longer time then it would be for someone in their middle adult years.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Prison is for long term stays. They have a library, exercise facilities, chapel (if you're into that sort of thing). County is for holding people. They provide only the absolute minimum necessary to keep the person alive, if you're lucky.
Check out this thread from people with experience on both sides. I'll quote:
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That's a pretty stupid way to announce it...
For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
So, if you wonder how the good hackers become bad hackers and start to work for money.....here it goes.
Are you on crack? Prison is far worse than county.
Sorry, but not always accurate.
When I was in county they served some of the nastiest food I've ever seen. Everyone kept saying how much better the food was in state...
I'll take prison over county any day, It's honestly the difference between molding bread/fruit and freshly baked pizza. The inmates likened it to the US Army v. US Navy when it comes to rations. The longer you're away from civility, the better the meals have to be. Even the inmates that worked in the kitchen were retentive about how food was prepared and served.
This is England. There's no such distinction.
OR drive by it. Arizona Motto: "Come on vacation, leave on probation"
It is, I've no idea why the British press do this. (Maybe they do it elsewhere as well, I dunno.)
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The 2008 financial crisis caused the destruction of far, far more wealth than *ALL PROPERTY CRIME PUT TOGETHER*. If we chose to do "only one thing and suspend everything else", that is prosecute the criminals behind the 2008 financial crisis, and ignore all other property crimes, we'd still be ahead of where we are now.
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Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't think the sentences are reasonable. However, given how insane recent sentences have been for any computer related crime, I fully expected all of them to get 50 years with billions of dollars of fines.
It is, I've no idea why the British press do this. (Maybe they do it elsewhere as well, I dunno.)
Profit. This is the most profitable way to put the news.
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How is your post even remotely insightful when its terribly wrong?
Under federal law, the punishment for rape can range from a fine to life imprisonment. The severity of the punishment is based on the use of violence, the age of the victim, and whether drugs or intoxicants were used to override consent. If the perpetrator is a repeat offender the law prescribes automatically doubling the maximum sentence.
--From Wikipedia
And these are federal crimes, so they'll probably spend it in a federal prison.
Doubtful, unless the US tries to extradite them from the UK. Despite one of the targets being the USAF they would still face some opposition in the face of the McKinnon debacle.
If God forks the Universe every time you roll a die, he'd better have a damned good memory.
But there are distinctions made among prisoners that determine where you end up. . .
Prisoner security categories in the United Kingdom
Assuming you make it so far as prison . . .
In soft-bellied Britain, it's hard to stay in prison for long. Even getting into jail is difficult
Might be a tougher ride in the future.
Do prisoners get a cushy ride in British jails?
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Yes, yes it is.
But there are distinctions made among prisoners that determine where you end up. . .
Of course, but that's in terms of security. Not severity of punishment. Though I'm sure the harshness does vary in practice, I'd imagine most of that is who you have to share the prison with. Maximum security murderers or minimum security computer hackers and politicians...
I know someone personally (not a friend, but went to school with them) who hit and killed someone with his car driving 60mph in a 30mph zone.
Not a single day spent in prison.
So to be fair, you can do things that are, in the grand scheme of things much more awful, and still get a much lighter sentence.
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The 2008 financial crisis caused the destruction of far, far more wealth than *ALL PROPERTY CRIME PUT TOGETHER*. If we chose to do "only one thing and suspend everything else", that is prosecute the criminals behind the 2008 financial crisis, and ignore all other property crimes, we'd still be ahead of where we are now.
but it was destruction of value which never was in the first place, doh.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
He's wrong, and though you're right in spirit, you're wrong too, as this took place in England.
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