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Mice, Newts Retrieved After a Month Orbiting Earth At 345 Miles Up

The Associated Press (as carried by the Washington Post) reports that a living payload of newts and mice has been retrieved after a month orbiting earth in a Russian space capsule at an altitude of 345 miles, far higher than the ISS's orbital distance of 205 miles. Says the story: "Fewer than half of the 53 mice and other rodents who blasted off on April 19 from the Baikonur Cosmodrome survived the flight, Russian news agencies reported, quoting Vladimir Sychov, deputy director of the Institute of Medical and Biological Problems and the lead researcher. Sychov said this was to be expected and the surviving mice were sufficient to complete the study, which was designed to show the effects of weightlessness and other factors of space flight on cell structure. All 15 of the lizards survived, he said. The capsule also carried small crayfish and fish."

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  1. Cause of death by Jerry+Smith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Radiation? Life support system malfunctions? Launch related problems? Bit more details would make it interesting.

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    1. Re:Cause of death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What about lizard related problems?

    2. Re:Cause of death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      They failed to place their seat backs and tray tables in a fully upright position during takeoff and landing.

    3. Re:Cause of death by flayzernax · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I wonder if it's far enough to get out of the earths magnetosphere. By the way if they didn't mention problems with the experiment its probably safe to assume everything went up and operated fine. Don't know till someone releases a paper in a journal though.

      I would wager bone loss in the mammals and weightlessness are the biggest contributing factors to death/disease. It could have been something else like mice getting upset and turning on each other because of their environment. Even simple non aggressive animals like frogs can become aggressive due to boredom and environmental reasons.

      Perhaps a lower metabolism benefited the lizards/newts. Time to RTFA =)

    4. Re:Cause of death by EdZ · · Score: 1

      Bit more details would make it interesting.

      They've only just retrieved the thing! Modern equipment is good, but we can't just wave a magic wand/tricorder over some dead mice and get a diagnosis yet.

    5. Re:Cause of death by JustOK · · Score: 4, Funny

      and didn't turn their cell phones off.

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    6. Re:Cause of death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and one of the mice was playing Angry Cats on his smartphone during the launch, causing devastating problems due to WiFi.

    7. Re:Cause of death by multisync · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hard landing in Kazakhstan desert would be another possibility.

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    8. Re:Cause of death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I wonder if it's far enough to get out of the earths magnetosphere.

      No. Let me put it this way, on the day side, Earth's magnetosphere extends more than twice as far as geosynchronous satellites. On the night side it extends far, far past the Moon (which will encompass the Moon if it happens to be there at the time).

    9. Re:Cause of death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bit more details would make it interesting.

      They've only just retrieved the thing! Modern equipment is good, but we can't just wave a magic wand/tricorder over some dead mice and get a diagnosis yet.

      They're dead, Jim

    10. Re:Cause of death by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Bit more details would make it interesting.

      They were delicious

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    11. Re:Cause of death by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Radiation? Life support system malfunctions? Launch related problems? Bit more details would make it interesting.

      Also, how did they dispose of the dead mice, and mouse poop? If the dead and decaying mice, and mouse poop, were floating around with the living mice, that would not be a healthy environment, and may explain some of the subsequent deaths.

    12. Re:Cause of death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Do you know something the rest of us don't?

      Nope, he knows something that you don't.

      The Moon isn't always on the nightside of Earth.

    13. Re:Cause of death by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      Bone loss?

      They where up there for a month!!!!

      How should bone loss cause a death? Especially as you don't really need your bones in space ...

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    14. Re:Cause of death by capebretonsux · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Without a doubt, heart attacks. I work with lab mice every day, and they're very high strung creatures. When we order mice from a supply house they often pack in one or two 'extra' mice in the event a death occurs in transit. This is just regular shipping via truck/plane, so the stresses of going through a launch into orbit being so much more I'd expect a high mortality rate.

    15. Re:Cause of death by Yomers · · Score: 2

      Quoting TFA "landed slightly off course but safely in a planted field near Orenburg, about 1,200 kilometers (750 miles) southeast of Moscow". Thats indeed near Kazakhstan border.

    16. Re:Cause of death by torsmo · · Score: 1

      See, this is what happens when you don't turn your cell phones off in a flight. You get dead rodents, Gojira and cretinous former presidential candidates.

    17. Re:Cause of death by pv2b · · Score: 1

      The moon isn't always at the night side of the Earth.

    18. Re:Cause of death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Radiation? Life support system malfunctions? Launch related problems? Bit more details would make it interesting.

      The PhysOrg article has a few snippets information:

      The animals on board the Bion-M craft died because of equipment failure or due to the stresses of space, scientists said.....But at the end of the experiment, "less than half of the mice made it—but that was to be expected," Sychov told Russian news agencies. "Unfortunately, because of equipment failure, we lost all the gerbils."

    19. Re:Cause of death by turp182 · · Score: 2

      Wish I had karma, you just described a nightmare situation, I wouldn't want to be the one cleaning up the capsule after the trip.

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    20. Re:Cause of death by Requiem18th · · Score: 1

      I think the Lizards ate half the mice.

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    21. Re:Cause of death by Requiem18th · · Score: 1

      Proof that geckos are bad ass!

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    22. Re:Cause of death by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      By "stress" he means "physiological stress", like the acceleration involved in launching. Not stress as in "boy, do I have a tight deadline".

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  2. No Amphibians Listed in Article by Da5id+H. · · Score: 1

    That headline should read "Mice, Lizards...".

    1. Re:No Amphibians Listed in Article by idji · · Score: 4, Informative

      No LIZARDS on this spacecraft. Newts are amphibians!!!!

    2. Re:No Amphibians Listed in Article by dtremenak · · Score: 3, Informative
      The animals on the spacecraft were geckos, which certainly are lizards. There were no newts launched on Bion-M1, nor any other kind of amphibian.

      Sources:
      http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1304/19bionm1/#.UZlBX39dAbE
      http://www.space.com/20732-russia-launches-animals-space-bion-m1.html

    3. Re:No Amphibians Listed in Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      The gecko's name is Newt. And he thinks he's an amphibian. And I love him.

    4. Re:No Amphibians Listed in Article by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      But they turned into newts! Science has met magic.

    5. Re:No Amphibians Listed in Article by shikaisi · · Score: 2

      who knows where the OP came up with newts...

      Astronewts?

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    6. Re:No Amphibians Listed in Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Some of them got better.

    7. Re:No Amphibians Listed in Article by dywolf · · Score: 1

      I thought he thought he was a former congressman

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  3. Incredible! by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can you believe these animals survived? Who knows what they'll try next, maybe a dog or chimp! One day, humans might even be able to go into space!

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    1. Re:Incredible! by kurt555gs · · Score: 1

      A Jimp? No Senator, a Jimp, a Jimpanzee.

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    2. Re:Incredible! by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      One day, humans might even be able to go into space!

      One day, the IRS might even be able to go into space!

      One way.

      The newt was actually a human . . . he got better.

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  4. I wonder by Hsien-Ko · · Score: 1

    if you launch a thousand of octopi in a capsule far off... Would that spawn the Orz?

    1. Re:I wonder by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I'm substantially more upset about the Mycon, who are occasionally hostile no matter what you say to them. Watch those spores...

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  5. Science: Space Lizards Superior to Squishy Mammals by ZombieRoboNinja · · Score: 5, Funny

    Another victory for the Cardassian Empire!

  6. Re:Just my intuition.... by bradorsomething · · Score: 1

    ....but the Fish and crayfish didn't survive then!

    There's no information given about the chordates and arthropoda in question.

    That information might be classified.

  7. Capsule loading checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Fewer than half of the 53 mice and other rodents who blasted off on April 19 from the Baikonur Cosmodrome survived the flight, Russian news agencies reported, quoting Vladimir Sychov, deputy director of the Institute of Medical and Biological Problems and the lead researcher. Sychov said this was to be expected and the surviving mice were sufficient to complete the study, which was designed to show the effects of weightlessness and other factors of space flight on cell structure. All 15 of the lizards survived, he said. The capsule also carried small crayfish and fish.

    Capsule loading checklist:
    Mice? Da!
    Fish? Da!
    Towel? Nyet.

    The lack of towel obviously caused many mice to panic, and die!!!!! (apologies to THHGTTG)

  8. Lizards on a Space Capsule by Livius · · Score: 2

    Enough is enough! I have had it with these m____________ lizards on this m____________ space capsule!

    1. Re:Lizards on a Space Capsule by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Maybe they despise profanity but couldn't resist the joke. I don't really enjoy it myself.

  9. How many died of boredom vs bat'leth fights? by kfsone · · Score: 3, Funny

    Also, given their skill in escapology, how many mice actually managed to make it off the ship?

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  10. I misread this by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    At first glance, I thought it said "Mice, Nerds Retrieved After a Month Orbiting Earth"...

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  11. Silver lining by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    Half of them survived the trip, so you can feel good about it. No mention that these creatures have been/will be slaughtered for studying them "on a cellular level".

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    1. Re:Silver lining by cheater512 · · Score: 1

      You can't talk. You harmed seven puppies just to make a Slashdot post!
      These guys are actually doing real science from these deaths.

  12. Newt in orbit by rossdee · · Score: 2

    Didn't he want to found a moon colony by the end of his second term?

  13. Re:Just my intuition.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    sadly, the water floated out of the gold fish bowl.

  14. Re:Chinks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    the appropriate term is 'japonaught' or 'astronese'.

    and chinks are chinese, you racist

  15. Edges of Van Allen belts? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 2

    A while back I found a good chart of radiation levels and from memory 300 miles up was the point where radiation levels were too high for permanent human occupation. I wonder if this was the cause...

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  16. Lizards by Cant+use+a+slash+wtf · · Score: 1

    Of course the lizards survived. How else do you think our glorious alien-lizard overlords survived the journey here?

  17. WOMUMP by Rufty · · Score: 1

    The Wortlethorpe MUnicipal Moon Program was putting mice on rockets decades ago - I read about this when I was a kid.

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  18. It's just another Bion / Biocosmos flight. by Catmeat · · Score: 2

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bion_(satellite) It's the 12th in a series of missions that have been (infrequently) flown since the 70's.

  19. Simulated gravity...? by taiwanjohn · · Score: 1

    When are they going to do some experiments with centrifugal simulated gravity?

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  20. Reportedly the capsule name was "NIMH" by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    I smell sequel!