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Ask Neil Gaiman and Amber Benson About Their Kickstarter Vampire Movie

Writer and novelist Neil Gaiman and Amber Benson of Buffy the Vampire Slayer fame have teamed up to star in a new vampire movie called, Blood Kiss. Kickstarted by ST:TNG and Emmy-winning writer Michael Reaves, Blood Kiss is a film noir vampire movie set in Golden Age Hollywood. Of his acting debut Gaiman says, "I'm willing to pretend that the prospect of acting doesn't terrify me in order to help Michael Reaves make his film." The trio have agreed to take a break from the blood and answer any questions you have about the new project or their past work. As usual, ask as many as you'd like, but please, one per post.

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  1. Overdone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    Given the plethora of vampire-related media in recent years, do you believe there is still a market for this type of film? What will you bring to the table that has not already been done?

    1. Re:Overdone? by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 1

      I came here to ask this.... although I was going to go with something along the lines of "What makes you think we need another vampire movie"

      Of course, lets take a look at the movies we can be expecting soon... Another Superman movie (Man of steel), Fast and Furious 6 (AKA return of the dead characters), Hangover 3, Thor 2, Jurassic Park 4, Star Trek Into Darkness (reboot part deux), and on and on. Why do we even expect new stuff anymore?

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    2. Re:Overdone? by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Not sure there has been a plethora in "recent" years. Vampires have always been popular. there are almost 2000 IMDB entries with the keyword "vampire".

    3. Re:Overdone? by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      ..., Thor 2, ...

      "Oh Annie, you're breaking my heart!"

    4. Re:Overdone? by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      1.) Amber Benson,
      2.) Neil Gaiman
      3.) I'm reasonably sure these vampires won't glitter.

    5. Re:Overdone? by sela · · Score: 1

      For a contribution of 2000$ or more on kickstarter, you can sponsor a vampire stare. For a contribution of 10000$, you'll get a gracious glitter from an emotionally staring vampire named after your dog.

    6. Re:Overdone? by alexander_686 · · Score: 1

      I have heard Neil Gaiman do voice acting work – audio play adaptation of a Gene Wolf story – (I am not counting his readings of his own audio books.) He was good. He does have a great voice.

  2. what are the vampires like? by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Interesting

    what are the vampires like? are they cool like masquerade, goofy like buffy or just plain retarded like twilight?

    yes this is intended to sound like buffy and twilight are uncool/stupid and that masquerade is cool/interesting. if their faces change to bad masks like buffy then gtfo and if the thing is like twilight then gtfo. don't care about the story. blade style is ok as well, it's somewhat akin to masquerade anyways(the basic stuff minus the "special" shit).

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    1. Re:what are the vampires like? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Or perhaps they are pre-Stoker vampires that are random whatever semi-cannibalistic creature that poses as humanoid but not necessary corporal humans.

    2. Re:what are the vampires like? by cyberchondriac · · Score: 2

      For the record, I thought Buffy's vampires were pretty bad-ass. They were, in fact, a form of demonic possession, only the possessed was a dead body. But zombies are more "in" lately.

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    3. Re:what are the vampires like? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      But zombies are more "in" lately.

      They're less into talking and more into gnawing - fewer opportunities to screw things up.

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    4. Re:what are the vampires like? by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Nah, just wait until we have glittering zombies. Game over.

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    5. Re:what are the vampires like? by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

      Hopefully they will be awesome like in Necroscope.

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    6. Re:what are the vampires like? by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

      glitter zombies? not exactly but this is pretty close. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1588173/

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  3. Will Lincoln be in it? by the_humeister · · Score: 2

    I'll only watch if the main character is a popular dead president.

    1. Re:Will Lincoln be in it? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

      I'll only watch if the main character is a popular dead president.

      Maybe he'll be the vampire this time.

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  4. Vampires are so over by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Somebody didn't get the memo that vampires are over.

    You can track this at a Barnes and Noble store by noting how many bookcases in the teen section are devoted to a subject. At peak, there were four cases of "Teen Paranormal Romance" and two of "New Teen Paranormal Romance". That dropped to three cases total, then two. "Survival" books are big now - there are two cases of Hunger Games imitations, not including the table of Hunger Games merch.

    1. Re:Vampires are so over by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 1

      Can we be over zombies now, too? pretty please?

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    2. Re:Vampires are so over by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      if twilight is dead then great!
      the little vampire books were kinda fun as a kid though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_kleine_Vampir they should get a resurgence(no idea about the movie though).

      but did barnes & noble really have a shelf dedicated to that shit? at least finnish bookstores aren't that kind of insane(or finnish teens don't read or have more sense..). the funniest labeled shelf I saw was at londons forbidden planet: "macho guys with guns". around here they're just fiction or non fiction. some bookstores having a scifi/fantasy shelf as well..

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    3. Re:Vampires are so over by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      I think the Vampires vs. Zombies genre is just now heating up.

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    4. Re:Vampires are so over by Molochi · · Score: 1

      Sorry, it ain't over yet.

      http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=vampire

      Search Interest generally spikes in October with the highwater mark being October 2011. However looks like May 2013 has the highest search interest in vampires for the month of May, ever and all-time interest should peak this October.

      Interest in Zombies and Werewolves may have reached a plateau.

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  5. Re:Why do you need kickstarter? by VortexCortex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Household names teaming up with an industry award winner? Leave the crowdfunding for the people without deep pockets and industry access/connections.

    Hmm. I'm in two minds about this:

    0. If you get paid to do work, then Kickstarter funds are payment for that work and should reduce the end cost to consumers. Work totally funded by Kickstarte? Distribute it for "free" since we paid you to do work. You want more money? Do more work for us, like a car mechanic, home builder or any other labor market in the world not trying to sell ice to eskimos -- er, bits to folk with computers...

    1. Let the big guys legitimize Kickstarter and other crowd funding. This is the transitionary period that can finally spell the eradication of publishers. Each time they Kickstarter it's another nail in the coffin of Publishers trying to make mony via artifically scarce information. (What's scarce is the ability to do work, market that, not the infinitely reproducable bits). Everyone should crowd fund 100%. Completely eliminate all piracy and copyright law would be moot -- Only work when money is garaunteed, then you don't need to monopolize your work (you have your monopoly over your work before you do it, not afterwards).

    What I want to know, is which of these are they aiming to further, and if they've talked to their Publisher about how this, and if they're OK with you trying to kill the Publishing business model via leveraging Kickstarter?

  6. Thoughts on Vampire rules? by kannibal_klown · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What are your thoughts on Vampire rules; such as classic vampires vs sparkling?
    Over the decades we've seen Vampires (and Zombies) change and evolve from the classic rules and mythology to a whole plethora of variations. Powers, weaknesses, origins, turnings, etc. Such transitions have been slow, but now we have sparkling vampires made of stone. Do you feel that we should stick more with the classic mythos? Or are you in favor with your own spin.

    1. Re:Thoughts on Vampire rules? by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      Such transitions have been slow, but now we have sparkling vampires made of stone.

      I know you are talking about Twilight, but if I recall correctly, in Anne Rice's Vampire novels, the really, really old vampires looked like (& were as hard as) alabaster statues until they moved.

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    2. Re:Thoughts on Vampire rules? by khasim · · Score: 2

      Do you feel that we should stick more with the classic mythos? Or are you in favor with your own spin.

      The problem would be FINDING the "classic" vampire. They've been changing ever since they were first invented. Mostly because the person telling the story needed a certain feature set for that story.

      I'm not saying anything against Michael Reaves. But the main problem with most of the stories is that the reality created by the writer is inherently limited to the knowledge of the writer. So there are usually huge plot holes such as "if vampires are so cool then why wouldn't everyone want to be a vampire" or "if vampires are so powerful then why do they have to hide".

    3. Re:Thoughts on Vampire rules? by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      The original vampires in Anne Rice's books, the ones who created all other vampires, had alabaster skin but were more like marble statues. They were a king and queen who were possessed by a demon. Akasha later killed her husband and got the full power.

      When Lestat found her and drank her blood, he gained some of the power. That is why when he tried to kill himself by lying naked in the Gobi Desert, waiting for the sun to rise, he didn't die. All he got was a tan.

      Yeah, I read the books back in the day. Despite her flip-flopping back and forth on the religion bandwagon, her portrayal of vampires and how they came to be was/is interesting.

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    4. Re:Thoughts on Vampire rules? by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

      I realize that even the old-school vampire mythos was not exactly stable.

      But the same way as how Zombies started changing at an accelerated rate around the 2000's... so have vampires. Sun varies from lethal, to dangerous, to a minor inconvenience, to it makes me weaker after X hours of exposure, to I look like a bedazzled-human . Rules for conversion vary, though those rules have almost almost varied since mid 1900s. Innate abilities change. Craving / behavior / personality changes.

      But like zombies, there is kind of a fuzzy line between "These are old-school zombies" and "These are superhuman runner zombies" and "these are somewhere in between" You can put vampires on a similar spectrum.

      The fact of the matter is though, with vampires they keep changing them around to be more and more "cool." I mean, some of the older stories... hell no I wouldn't want to be a vampire. But with the newer stuff, their abilities are amped and their weaknesses are nerfed. Why not?

    5. Re:Thoughts on Vampire rules? by khasim · · Score: 1

      But with the newer stuff, their abilities are amped and their weaknesses are nerfed. Why not?

      Exactly. You get eternal youth (at whatever age you "died") and all kinds of extras in exchange for a literal blood thirst. Which may or may not require you to kill a person (depending upon the writer) or animal.

      So what effect would that have on society? And when did it start?

      Are there "good" vampires and if so, why aren't they converting some of our best scientists? Why aren't they our space program? Stake them on Earth, send them to Mars and have a machine pull the stake. No need for food during the trip. Be the first vampire to see Saturn up close and then turn the ship back to Earth. How many astronauts on Earth would willingly "go vampiric" to do that?

  7. Why do this? by macbeth66 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Didn't Twilight ruin Vampires for generations to come?

    1. Re:Why do this? by Terminus32 · · Score: 1

      True say!

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  8. My question by Chillas · · Score: 4, Funny

    With Michael, Neil and Amber on board, this project has a very intriguing pedigree and I think stands a good chance at being something original and fresh. At the same time, the vampire story is feeling a little worn-out at this particular time, which might make it a hard sell for some. My question is, will Amber Benson marry me?

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    1. Re:My question by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      You stole my question, before I could even ask it.

    2. Re:My question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Tara was a very popular character particularly in the geek/nerd community. Do you think that character would have been as accepted if she was a gay man instead of a lesbian?

  9. favorite by godrik · · Score: 2

    Thanks to both of you for this interview!

    Who is your favorite vampire ?

  10. Re:Why do you need kickstarter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'd be cool with the crowdfunding if the movie was released to the internet for free OR if the kickstart investers get a return on their money. Otherwise, this is bogus.

  11. Singing by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    Will Amber be singing? Some of us have been waiting a long time for the debut album but will take what we can get.

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  12. Re:Why do you need kickstarter? by sela · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your logic is completely faulty here.

    First, being famous doesn't preclude you from using Kickstarter. Even someone could get funding from a big studio, it means the'll have to cede some of the control over the movie to the studios, who would change it to get more commercial appeal. Kickstarter allows the creator to maintain creative freedom.

    Second, it doesn't suck funding from indy projects. Actually, it works just the other way around. More big names bring more public awareness to kickstarter, and as a result, those small indy projects get a chance to get more money, NOT less.

    And third, this is not a Neil Gaiman movie. This is a Michael Reaves movie. Neil Gaiman agreed to play in this movie to help a friend.

  13. That's it. by ddd0004 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm founding Kickstopper.

  14. Re:Why is an avowed atheist, and dismisser of all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Because they can mentally separate the concepts of "fiction for entertainment" and "reality"?

  15. Vampyres of Hollywood? by spexandwally9228 · · Score: 1

    Without spoiling the plot, what separates Blood Kiss from the Vampyres of Hollywood series of novels?

  16. Yay! by Sebastopol · · Score: 1

    ...ANOTHER vampire film / franchise!!!

    I know, "But this is Neil Gaiman!!!" /facepalm

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  17. Funding by DocGerbil100 · · Score: 1

    The Kickstarter page asks for $50K, but considering the apparent costs usually involved in making anything other than the smallest-scale movies, as well as the references in the text of your KS pitch regarding venture capital, I'd like to know how much you *actually* need to get this film made and distributed.

  18. Re:Why do you need kickstarter? by sela · · Score: 1

    You assume this is a zero-sum game, but it's not. The pool of potential funders is not fixed. When a well-known creator starts a Kickstarter project, it attracts a new wave of fans who come to help the specific project they are interested at, and then some of them stick around and help funding other projects. It's a win-win.

    Besides, its up to the funders to get their priorities right. Personally, I wouldn't fund a Rolling Stones album because I believe they don't need my help. I would rather spend my money helping some small indie band, and help some project that couldn't happen without my help, and I'm sure many others will do the same. So I'm not worried Rolling Stones or George Lucas would dry the funding for those smaller indie projects.

  19. Re:Why is an avowed atheist, and dismisser of all by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

    Wait, since when are vampires considered supernatural?

    In fact, please define "supernatural". Preferably using something else besides "things I don't understand" or "things I can't explain with the currently known science".

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  20. There are only two vampire movies by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

    A few (two or three) variations of Dracula.
    And "An interview with a vampire".

    Oh, well if you are hardcore you might want to see Nosferatu.

    Market? Yeah sure, there is a market. The stupid idiots watch everything that is marketed right.

    I for my part can not stand vampire movies, most zombie movies (except "Brain Dead") or horror movies in particular.

    The audience around me is submerged into the "story" and "feared". I see no story as nonly see the flaws in the "chain of events" ... obviously for the brain dead masses some effects that "scare" them are enough to make a movie "exciting".

    Disclaimer: I never saw a vampire movie in the theater (except that movie with Pat Britt and Tom Cruise)

    Hey but Neil writes nice books and I hear Amanda or is it Amber is a nice singer ... perhaps they have an IDEA!

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    1. Re:There are only two vampire movies by maroberts · · Score: 1

      I think you are missing Salems Lot, which is a fairly good interpretation of the Stephen King book.

      I'd also go for The Lost Boys, lightweight but with a good 80s soundtrack

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    2. Re:There are only two vampire movies by wynterwynd · · Score: 1

      Try "Let the Right One In" - it's a vampire movie with a completely different approach. It's not a horror movie really, except in the circumstantial sense - more of a rather charming drama of sorts.

      It's on Netflix on-demand, give it a watch and see if you don't find a vampire movie you truly like.

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  21. Kickstarter: Monster.com for celebrities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    My question:

    Don't you think celebrities should get the hell off kickstarter? Having both achieved success and fame in your chosen fields, why don't you use your undoubted influence and contacts instead of taking the lazy option of asking fans to shoulder the risk and provide project financing for you?

    Kickster is a fantastic opportunity for unknowns and people with good ideas, who otherwise would find it hard to raise capital, to get their small projects off the ground through crowdfunding. I find it pretty shabby that it's now become a playground for individuals to use their celebrity to further their own ambitions and careers, thus making the pot available to those who don't have your name recognition all the smaller. It's not like your idea even has anything original or inventive about it. Neil Gaiman in particular - you're an international multiple best-selling author, so I doubt you're short of a dollar or two. Why go cap-in-hand to people considerably less affluent than you to pursue your hobbies and side projects?

    What do you have to say to this?

  22. matter of the heart by itchybrain · · Score: 1

    Wait. Will characters fall in love or sleep with each other, eventually or otherwise? If so, count me out.

    The Buffy series was awesome but starts to lose its shine when every character 'buddies' up.

    Series I can think of right now that do not do this are Sam Raimi's Hercules and maybe, Xena.

  23. Actually, his quote was ... by oneiros27 · · Score: 1

    Neil Gaiman gave an interview in 2009 to Entertainment Weekly : http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20301186,00.html

    Where are we now, in the grand vampire cycle?

    Vampires go in waves, and it kind of feels like now we're finishing a vampire wave; at the point where they're everywhere. It's probably time to go back underground for another 20 or 25 years.

    Theyâ(TM)ve reached the saturation point.

    I think so, and it definitely sort of feels like classical vampires have been around enough that if they could go back in their coffins, the next time they come out [they could] mean something really different. That would be cool.

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  24. What do they mean this time? by oneiros27 · · Score: 1

    In a 2009 interview with Entertainment Weekly, Neil Gaiman mentioned his opinions on what vampires represented, and the published interview concluded with:

    ...it definitely sort of feels like classical vampires have been around enough that if they could go back in their coffins, the next time they come out [they could] mean something really different. That would be cool.

    ... so do the vampires mean something different this time?

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  25. Good Omens movie? by oneiros27 · · Score: 1

    As it says we're allowed to ask about past work --

    Should we still hold out hope for a Good Omens movie, or is it just dead in the water?

    (it's still one of my favorite books of all time ... I think I'm on my 4th copy as I've loaned it to over a dozen people over the years and don't always get it back)

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    1. Re:Good Omens movie? by ZombieThoughts · · Score: 1

      I was thinking this reading through all of these replies. My favorite work by Gaiman and Pratchett.

      Thank you for mentioning it.

      Worth removing the mods I did on previous posts.

  26. Dracula by phorm · · Score: 1

    Well, even going back to Brahm, Dracula was less powerful in daylight but didn't necessarily kill him, it just reduced his strength and made him unable to use some powers (such as transformation, etc).

    Still, he certainly didn't freakin' sparkle in the sunlight.

  27. Re:Why is an avowed atheist, and dismisser of all by __aasehi2499 · · Score: 1

    You first. Please detail the inner workings of vampires that have been empirically and rigorously researched and studied using scientific methodology. Oh wait...no such thing as vampires as they are imagined creatures of supernatural origin, so there is nothing to study.

  28. Re:Why do you need kickstarter? by Raenex · · Score: 1

    OR if the kickstart investers get a return on their money

    Yeah, I never understood the Kickstarter model of taking all the financial risk while giving all the reward away.

  29. American Gods HBO series by wynterwynd · · Score: 1

    Hi Neal - first off I want to say I'm a huge admirer and I can't wait to see you in Nashville this July! That being said, the tour is billed as the "Last US Signing Tour". Say it ain't so!

    My question:

    With the upcoming "American Gods" project for HBO, how much creative control do you have over the direction of series? Is there a firm beginning and an end to the story arc, as with the novel, or do you have to keep things open for possible future seasons?

    Blood Kiss sounds interesting due to the sheer creativity pool involved, although I think the vampire genre is getting a bit washed thin and fraying at the cuffs lately. Hopefully this approach will be sufficiently unique as to revitalize it (entendré completely intended).

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  30. Re:Why do you need kickstarter? by levi47 · · Score: 1

    I think that a kickstarter such as this should have a funding level that the film is released entirely free digitally in addition to their pre-production level. Place this level somewhere around the profit they estimate to make with moderate dvd sales and theatrical release. Then, offer for sale the DVD\Blueray for a reasonable price and release to theaters. This way people can help lower the risk of producing something that might not be super popular and people can still support the effort after the fact by purchasing the dvd\blueray or seeing it in theaters.

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  31. Re:Why is an avowed atheist, and dismisser of all by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

    OK, so you're using my #2 example "things I can't explain with the currently known science".

    I'm not saying vampires are real, I just don't like term "supernatural" as it's being thrown around without any sensible definition. Go back a few hundred years, and lightning didn't have a scientific explanation; many people probably attributed it to divine powers. Yet it was clearly a natural phenomenon.

    I guess my point is that something either exists or it doesn't. "Supernatural" is a rather loaded term for something that simply doesn't exist. (Of course, I'm not perfectly sure that vampires don't exists, but if they did, there would be nothing supernatural about them.)

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  32. Re:Vampires are SEX and DEATH by painandgreed · · Score: 1

    Somebody didn't get the memo that vampires are over.

    The vampire thing has been ongoing for more than a century and a half so far and probably will never be over. Before Dracula, there was Lord Ruthven who every author made their main vampire. The 19th century was full of books and plays about vampires. Thing is that vampires are allegories for sex, death, and even sometimes romantic love which people have tended to dwell on since they started telling stories. They may be over used at times, but will never be over until something else comes along to replace them.

  33. Effects vs Sub-plots by Khopesh · · Score: 1

    A lot of recent movies have kind of ignored sub-plots and development of non-lead characters in exchange for stunts and effects.

    I'm a big Gaiman fan for his thoroughness in crafting worlds (the world is a character, the reader's view and understanding expands as the story progresses). His interest in this movie (... as an actor?) implies that the movie will also have this element.

    What kind of movie will this be, action (effect) or plot (story)? Will there be the level of depth and plots within plots that can fuel the imagination beyond the story that unfolds within the movie, or will it be an effects-driven flick that keeps us at the edge of our seats?

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