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Apple Leaves Journalists Jonesing

Hodejo1 writes "Apple traditionally has big product announcements in the early spring, so around February both the mainstream press and the tech blogs began to circulate their favorite rumors (the iWatch, iTV). They also announced the date of the next Apple event, which this year was in March — except it didn't happen. 'Reliable sources' then confirmed it would be in April, then May and then — nothing. In withdrawal and with a notoriously secretive Apple offering no relief the tech journalists started to get cranky. The end result is a rash of petulant stories that insist Apple is desperate for new products, in trouble (with $150 billion dollars in the bank, I should be in such trouble) and in decline. The only ones desperate seem to be editors addicted to traffic-generating Apple announcements. Good news is on the horizon, though, as the Apple Worldwide Developer Conference starts June 10th." This was in evidence last night, as Apple CEO Tim Cook spoke to the press at the All Things D conference. Cook's statements were mostly the sort of vague, grandiose talk that gets fed to investors on an earnings call, but it's generating article after article because, hey, it's Tim Cook.

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  1. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ^ that is all

    1. Re:Who cares? by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm a Mac fan, and I think the iPhone is all right. I'm not an Apple hater.

      That said, I completely agree. We are now reporting about non-news as news?

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    2. Re:Who cares? by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's sort of like having a small child or a puppy. It's when everything is quiet that you start to wonder what they're up to.

    3. Re:Who cares? by Vanderhoth · · Score: 5, Funny

      or more likely they're throwing all the toilet paper they can find in the toilet and pulling the flusher repeatedly flooding your bathroom and making a huge mess that someone is going to have to clean up. They may also be starting a fire.

    4. Re:Who cares? by shadowrat · · Score: 5, Funny

      What kind of dogs did you have?

    5. Re:Who cares? by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 4, Funny

      Apple used to be a lot more reticent regarding future products. The fact that Mr. Cook is talking/hinting about future products is confirmation that Apple knows its best days are behind it. Mr. Cook is trying, unsuccessfully it appears, to regenerate the buzz around Apple.

      Yeah, maybe it's time to shut Apple down and give the money back to the shareholders.

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    6. Re:Who cares? by Vanderhoth · · Score: 4, Funny

      Shih Tzu, why do you think it was playing in the toilet?

    7. Re:Who cares? by chrish · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While I agree with the first part (and hey, they can coast for a decade, so maybe they've got ample opportunity to get moving again), I don't agree with the second part.

      iTunes sucked hard for many, many years while Jobs was at the helm, its awfulness isn't a feature of Tim Cook's days.

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    8. Re:Who cares? by shmlco · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "A small child or puppy with $150 billion of other people's money. And someday governments around the world will grow enough balls to take it back."

      People gave them money in exchange for a product. That's called business.

      As to "growing enough balls", get real. We have corporations that make billions in profits quarterly, pay little to no taxes on them, and then the government turns around and hands them billions more in subsidies and tax breaks. And yes, I'm talking about you, Exxon.

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    9. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A small child or puppy with $150 billion of other people's money.

      Sorry, did Apple break into peoples' houses and force them to buy iPads and iPhones and Macs at the point of a gun? Because I'm pretty sure they didn't.

      That 150 billion is Apple's - they earned it, it's not "someone else's" money - unless you can prove that they have failed to pay the taxes required of them by law, in which case SOME PORTION of that money certainly belongs to the governments to which taxes are owed.

      If Apple has satisfied their legal obligations under the current tax laws, then that money is NOBODY but APPLE's. If the governments want them to pay more money, then the governments should pass some new fucking tax laws, instead of whining about how Apple didn't say "Hey, we only owe $6 billion, but you know what, let's just round that up to $100 billion, and here's a check."

      Your expectations and wishes do not constitute a legal obligation on other people. If you want to compel Apple to pay more, by all means - go for it. I'd even agree that they should be paying more in taxes than they are currently. But don't for a second think you're doing anything but whining like a bitch by complaining that they "ONLY" paid what they're "OBLIGATED" to pay.

      Oh god, you thick cunts make me lose my mind. And I'm not even an Apple user. This "you didn't pay more than you're obligated to, therefore you're evil" rhetoric is just so retarded it defies comprehension.

    10. Re:Who cares? by webmistressrachel · · Score: 2

      "Slashdot is becoming ever the shill site since took over"

      Surely that's just the universal, elitist meme talking, like no-one who's here now is as cool as the original crowd, etc.?

      Well sorry for not being cool enough. Blame the Roman Catholic Comprehensive school I went to.

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    11. Re:Who cares? by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That said, I completely agree. We are now reporting about non-news as news?

      Because Apple stories bring in ad revenue. A lot of it, in fact. If you can attract Android fanboys and Apple-haters to the mix, you can count on a good chunk of ad revenue.

      So Apple non-news is the media's attempt to bring some Apple story ad revenue back.

      Journalists are hurting for money too, you know,

      And Apple's positioned themselves to be the "premium, but accessible" brand. Unlike Google (who simply are ho-hum because they're splashed across the vast majority of web searchines), and Samsung (who you see everywhere for everything - from lowly crap to high end smartphones and appliances).

      And Google I/O was a huge bust in terms of reporting. The PS4 and Xbox One announcements tended to be yawners.

      Only Apple stories can bring in crowds from Apple fanboys, Android fanboys, Apple haters, and the general public - it won't be long until even the Apple-haters have haters ("I remember when hating Apple was COOL..."). Android stories bring out some Android fanboys, and a few Apple fanboys, but otherwise not much of a stir. Microsoft stories (including Xbox) similarly - the anti-Microsoft rhetoric has died down. Even Google can't seem to pull in crowds.

      Except it seems that Apple has throughout its entire life a steady supply of fans, haters, and people interested in their product.

      Hell, it won't be long until you see "Tim Cook - help a starving journalist and announce *something*".

    12. Re:Who cares? by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      Tech journalists. Which seem to be the second worst journalists out there. Financial sector journalists are pretty shitty at what they do, political reporters are generally pretty terrible at doing anything more than regurgitating press releases. But at least both have some importance and occasionally you get decent reports. Tech journalists, on the other hand, seem to be little more than advertisers. And not even very good ones at that. Aside from gawker buying that iphone prototype, I can't think of a single thing done by anyone who reports on mobile phones or consumer electronics that was worth anything, and even that iphone thing was utterly unimportant. Wait a few fucking months.

      Still better than celebrity gossip reporters. I'll give them that much. They may be utterly worthless, but at least they don't distract people from important issues as much as celebrity news does.

    13. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      I cannot comment on most of your post, but

      You can't backup your iTunes to a hard-disk or USB key

      Now I don't know how iTunes works on a Mac, but on Windows, I can most certainly backup my iTunes directory. Whenever I've upgraded to a new PC, I install iTunes, copy the old iTunes directory over, and everything is exactly as it was on the old PC.

    14. Re:Who cares? by tnk1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hand-picked successors can certainly fail, but it isn't the same situation as being thrown out by Gil Amelio and the Board.

      Needless to say, Tim Cook is not Steve Jobs, but that might be "acceptable". One might consider that the Board probably knew that the share value would tank simply because Steve Jobs died. If they were prepared for that eventuality, then they realize that *any* successor would be screwed. If they're going to fire him, they are going to want to do it based on a stock drop that Tim Cook is primarily responsible for.

      Now, as for Cook's actual ability to be CEO, two things are unclear.

      1. If Apple is tanking, is that simply because Apple's products were entering sort of an iterative phase even before Jobs died? Some had pointed that out in the past.
      2. Can Steve Jobs be replaced by anyone at all? Was he like Alexander the Great or Charlemagne in terms of being able to build an empire where no empire should have been able to appear normally? If Apple was built solely on personal abilities of a particular person, instead of on collective leadership, it will need to change significantly to be able to survive without him.

      On point two, however, one should point out that Alexander the Great's successors were actually rather successful at maintaining their still-large, if divided, holdings. Tim Cook may not be an Alexander, but he could shape up to be a Ptolemy. In that sense, he might still be the right man for the job, even if everything he does seems to look like failure in contrast to Jobs. Cook might ultimately be successful at maintaining as much of the Empire as he can, but he's probably still going to lose a good chunk of it no matter what he does.

    15. Re:Who cares? by mspohr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm a little hesitant to reply to you since your tone of voice is so nasty but.. here goes.

      When you buy stuff, you really should pay the entire cost of that stuff which should include the costs and benefits of the legal, political, education, and infrastructure (roads, communications, etc.) which went into making that stuff. Some of these costs are publicly funded by taxes.
      That is why corporations should pay taxes.
      I don't want to underwrite the cost of your latest gadget by paying for all of the public goods which helped create it.
      You need to pay for your own stuff.

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    16. Re:Who cares? by gorzek · · Score: 2

      Apple's not announced any amazing new products! Apple is doomed! SELL SELL SELL!

      I don't care much about Apple either way, but the way people speculate about it is so silly. Of course, this is the company that manages to meet its own stated revenue targets but takes a stock hit for not meeting third-party analysts' made-up targets. All I can do is laugh.

    17. Re:Who cares? by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How can any CEO keep their job after their stock value was chopped in half in less than a year?

      First, it didn't get chopped in half. AAPL peaked at 702, and troughed at 390, give or take. Second, at no point did AAPL lose much more than about a year worth of gains. Every dollar the stock lost was a dollar that it also gained under Tim Cook, at approximately the same rate.

      News flash: AAPL is prone to wild swings. Nothing new here. The only difference this time is that there's a whole new crop of pundits who don't remember 2008, 2001, etc.

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    18. Re:Who cares? by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      I wish all taxes were corporate. That way all the cost of taxes would be hidden in the product cost. Then I would almost never have to pay taxes because I almost never buy anything. All the people I know who have to have the latest and greatest could thus pay my way. I like it. I have two cars, one a 98 model and a newer 01. I bought a new washer and dryer in 2010, my second set since I got married in 1980. I bought a new TV in 2011, my third in the same period. It's not that I'm cheap I just don't buy shit just to be buying something. I like the idea of those who have the money to buy new crap every other payday taking care of the taxes.

    19. Re:Who cares? by ethanms · · Score: 2

      How can any CEO keep their job after their stock value was chopped in half in less than a year?

      The value of the stock, particularly stocks for companies such as Apple, is often based on sentiment with crystal-ball-esque predictions of future earnings and performance. It can take a long time for reality to set in. Frankly the price was too damn high, it was all based on euphoria of Apple producing a never ending stream of must-have products and the idea that the stock will continue to increase... and it did, for the same reason reason people kept buying houses even when the housing market was clearly over-valued.

      A solid company, with a good CEO, management and vision, will not start chopping heads just because the stock price is varying. That's just wanting scapegoats and blood.

      You don't throw the captain overboard when the seas get rough unless you are certain they steered you into the storm... this is not that case.

    20. Re:Who cares? by spire3661 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You dont think business should be paying taxes to support the infrastructure that provides them with the opportunity to do business?

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    21. Re:Who cares? by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      This is terrible logic. You equating making BILLIONS in profit with just trying to make a normal living is a joke.

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    22. Re:Who cares? by shmlco · · Score: 2

      "Apple's "market-changing" products seem to be fewer and farther in-between of late."

      Please. Apple II released in 1976, Lisa in 1983. Macintosh in 1984. Powerbook in 1991. iPod is 2001. iPhone in 2007. Air in 2008. iPad in 2010. The iPad mini (yet another bestselling product) just last year.

      Just how often is a single company supposed to create a "market-changing" product anyway?

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    23. Re:Who cares? by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 2

      Further to that, it's not clear that the stock price of any given company at any given time is entirely related to its performance. If the world were rational, Apple would still have a high stock price because they still make enormous profits. As a long term bet, they're fairly solid. Their price to earnings ratio is incredibly good.

      Apple makes more profits in a quarter than Amazon has, cumulatively, over its entire history. (http://go.bloomberg.com/market-now/2013/01/23/apples-profit-vs-amazons-promise/) So naturally Apple's stock price drops while Amazon's stock price goes up. What?

      But this is an offshoot of the weird way that we think the stock market is supposed to work now. It used to be that you invested in the long term in a company because you believed that they could produce something, and their success would mean your success. Now institutional buyers with the ability to lift or tank a stock irrespective of what anyone believes the true long-term prospects are cause wild stock swings and the world looks on and think that means something.

      I own 3 shares of Apple. That's all I decided I wanted to afford (at the time I bought them, that was around $1000 of stock). I figure a lot of individual stockholders are like me, with modest investments. We're not the ones causing these swings with buying and selling. The success of Apple's stock isn't really related to what the public thinks of their products or how the public views Apple's future prospects.

  2. journalism by Tom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A good example to watch.

    A successful company, ahead of its markets, does not need a new product every 6 months.
    Journalists, on the other hand, do need news.

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    1. Re:journalism by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It does when "Buy The iDevice++" is their business model. There's a lot of 3 to 5 year old iDevices out there that are still perfectly suited to what their owners actually need, but Apple has made a metric fuckton of money by convincing people to upgrade every year even if they don't need any of the new features. At it's heart, Apple has become a marketing company that happens to also sell what they market. Without that marketing power, iDevices would have all the popularity of the Zune.

    2. Re:journalism by SigveK · · Score: 4, Funny

      It may have been unintentional on your part, but I like the use of "Buy The iDevice++" as opposed to "Buy The ++iDevice".

    3. Re:journalism by Sockatume · · Score: 2

      The mobile phone industry was built around getting people to buy new phones every year (18 months, towards the end) for a long, long time before Apple came on the scene, and there weren't new features - needed or not - as an inducement.

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    4. Re:journalism by MrMickS · · Score: 5, Informative

      It does when "Buy The iDevice++" is their business model. There's a lot of 3 to 5 year old iDevices out there that are still perfectly suited to what their owners actually need, but Apple has made a metric fuckton of money by convincing people to upgrade every year even if they don't need any of the new features. At it's heart, Apple has become a marketing company that happens to also sell what they market. Without that marketing power, iDevices would have all the popularity of the Zune.

      I think that you are completely and utterly wrong on how Apple views their customers. You are listening to too many rabid fanbois and reading too many awesome tech journals.

      Looking at phones in particular: before the iPhone came along software upgrades, though possible, were generally a pain. This was further complicated by carrier software versions preventing manufacturer updates being applied. In general you bought a phone and the software was fixed. Apple continue to support older versions of phones with new software releases with as much feature parity as won't impact the experience. Their aim is to keep their customers happy so that when they come to replace their device they will buy it from them. The philosophy is to build the best that they can and build customer loyalty.

      I've had two iPhones, a 3G and a 4S. The 4S is still good enough for pretty much whatever I want to do so I can't see me upgrading this year unless the next phone does something magical. When I come to replace I'll buy another iPhone. Why? Because it does the job I want it to.

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    5. Re:journalism by shadowrat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While device buying is profitable for apple, i don't think their model entirely revolves around getting you to buy the next device. It's more about digital purchases and locking you into their ecosystem. They are perfectly happy for you to keep your 3 year old device as long as you continue to use their cloud storage, buy mp3s on itunes, and get every new angry birds.

    6. Re:journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually everything I have seen says that Apple makes little to nothing on selling music, apps, storage, etc. Sure they generate tons of revenue, but Apple claims most of that revenue pays for the service, royalties, etc. Remember Apple only gets 30% of every dollar in Apps sold. A lot of apps are free, in which case Apple is losing money operationally. Only Apple and the record labels know how much Apple hands over to the record labels on every song sold.

      However, making the ecosystem work with all the devices makes you want to buy an iphone, then an ipad, then an iMac, then an AppleTV, etc.

    7. Re:journalism by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm still on my iPhone 4. I have no particular need to upgrade every year. I've been buying Macs for a long time, and I always sold them when I ran out of AppleCare...I'm hardly on a 1-year upgrade cycle. Now I'm actually still using a 4-year-old iMac and an even older MacBook. (We bought a new Mac Mini to run computational experiments, but it's headless.)

      In fact, most of the people I know are still using their iPhone 4. I know one person with an iPhone 5, and he came from a Windows phone.

      If there's a policy or climate of consumption, it's societal, not due to Apple's marketing. The idea that you should update as often as possible isn't new to computing. Heck, it's not like it even started with computers. I've known plenty of people that leased cars just so they could get a new one every couple of years. Consumption is the curse of the current capitalist framework that we live in. That Apple exists and exploits that system somewhat shouldn't be pinned on them; they're just a symptom.

      I MAY upgrade to what Apple announces this year, but I might not. I may my own determinations based on what my needs are.

      Apple doesn't make vast changes to its products year on year. It adds a new feature or two and releases an upgraded OS to a lot of people for FREE. And here's the irony: Android owners are constantly ragging on Apple for this. "Oh man, nothing new out of Apple! Why should I buy their stuff?" They can't win around here. Either they're not making crazy big changes that would force you to buy a new item, or they're releasing new, upgraded products TOO DAMN OFTEN. No way to win.

    8. Re:journalism by PlusFiveTroll · · Score: 2

      I think it's two things related to the software.

      1. As you say, there are software upgrades put out regularly, you're not stuck with security holes or old useless phones.

      2. Even though the software and devices are upgraded, they stay almost exactly the same from revision to revision. There are new features, but the iphoneX+1 still works almost exactly the same as an iphoneX. That is the important part. People hated having to relearn the interface of their phone every time they got a new one. It's still an issue with Android phones that between models and manufactures there is enough of a difference that it can be confusing. Older phones were a joke when it came to that? Where is the address book? How do I add contacts to this one? Why did that change that? Ugh.

    9. Re:journalism by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      In fact, most of the people I know are still using their iPhone 4.

      Slashdot should have a "-1 worthless anecdote" mod. Not singling you out in particular, just sayin' that Slashdot is full of "everyone I know..." and "it is/isn't good for me, therefore it is/isn't good for everyone".

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    10. Re:journalism by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 2

      Anecdotes aren't data, I know, but my worthless anecdote was a counter to the worthless assertion that the parent made. :)

  3. famous for being famous by shortscruffydave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apple seems to be more about the rumours and the stories about their products nowadays, more so than being about their product innovations. Makes me think of 'C' list celebrities, who are really famous for being famous rather than for anything substantive that they might actually do

    1. Re:famous for being famous by Sockatume · · Score: 2

      Being announced in the September and Holiday press events, like they were last year?

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    2. Re:famous for being famous by nine-times · · Score: 2

      Apple seems to be more about the rumours and the stories about their products nowadays...

      I sense you must not be familiar with the Mac community. Rumors are the norm.

      You can spin that to be a bad thing, saying, "They have rumors because there's nothing of substance." You could spin it to be a positive, saying, "The market is so excited about Apple's products that they engage in wild speculation." Regardless, the Mac rumor mill has been spinning for decades, and this is not something that has emerged "nowadays".

  4. Just a rumor by puddingebola · · Score: 2

    Just a rumor, but I heard it's the iBlender, which will revolutionize kitchen appliance. But will it blend itself?

    1. Re:Just a rumor by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not only will it blend* the most hipster smoothie you have ever tasted, but the sleek iBlender can also play music** and videos***, make phones calls****, get you lost in your travels***** and more!

      *Blades sold separately in the iTunes store.
      **Requires iTunes
      ***Requires AppleControl iMplants
      ****Requires monthly tithing
      *****Feature, not a bug. Just ask our lawyers.

  5. Re:The reality distortion field is waning. by TWiTfan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey, *you* try taking over a cult sometime, buddy! You hand people their Kool-Aid and all they can do is complain that Ascended Father would have sweetened it more.

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  6. Re:Apple is in trouble by MightyYar · · Score: 2

    They are stuck with a bunch of odd resolutions and encouraged developers to target them all directly, resulting in debacles like the black bars when they went widescreen.

    I have to kind of chuckle because, well, Android...

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  7. Re:Apple is in trouble by Xest · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Android was designed with the potential for arbitrary screen resolutions from the outset, in contrast Apple pretended fragmentation was an Android problem rather than accept the reality that fragmentation is a necessary fact of progress (because for progress to occur, hardware has to change).

    The net result is that with iOS you often end up with programs where they either just zoom in and create a pixelated wreck of your lovely retina display, or they just use up an absolutely tiny fraction of your total screen space.

    That's what he's referring to, Apple's complete lack of foresight and the horrible mess it leads to if developers don't update their app each time Apple has a screen change.

  8. Re:Apple is in trouble by moronoxyd · · Score: 2

    Tell that to Apple's shareholders.
    They don't care much about the money in the bank, but about the new money to be made.

  9. Re:Apple is in trouble by Xest · · Score: 2

    Except they can't get to a lot of that money because it's held offshore and if they bring it onshore they'll lose an awful lot of it in taxes.

    What use is the $102bn they hold offshore if they refuse to bring whatever is left of it post-tax into the US when there's little of value that makes sense to invest in in the countries they're holding said money?

    Unless they plan on moving their HQ and all their talent to Ireland and such or just accept the tax deduction and bring it into the US (or another country) then it's completely useless. There's nothing in Ireland worth spending $46bn on that will also allow them to recoup the cost.

  10. Re:Apple is in trouble by moronoxyd · · Score: 4, Informative

    They are stuck with a bunch of odd resolutions and encouraged developers to target them all directly, resulting in debacles like the black bars when they went widescreen.

    I have to kind of chuckle because, well, Android...

    You didn't really read gp's post, right?

    Google told the Android developers a long time ago that they should prepare their apps for a variety of resolutions and DPIs.

    Apple on the other hand told their developers that they can expect fixed resolutions, and are now struggeling with the fact that they have different resolutions, different DPIs and different aspect ratios.

  11. Jonesing? by rossdee · · Score: 3, Funny

    WTF is Jonesing ?

    Are they drinking poisoned cool ade? (Rev Lim Jones)
    Speaking in a deep voice? (James Earl Jones)
    Singing Tenor (Tom Jones)

    I'll admit I wasn't born in the USA, but English (English) has been my main language for over 50 years

    1. Re:Jonesing? by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When faced with a new word it is often prudent to attempt to deduce its meaning from context. Given that the article is about journalists "in withdrawal" and "cranky" due to a lack of new Apple news, what do you think that "Jonesing" could mean?

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    2. Re:Jonesing? by LDAPMAN · · Score: 2

      Err, No....http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jonesing

      "Exhibiting a strong craving or desire for something eaten, imbibed, or taken as a drug. Comes from opiate culture."

  12. What's Apple Famous for Again? by neoshroom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's Apple famous for again? Yup, they are famous for being famous.

    Well that and popularizing the graphic user interface everyone uses in the first place.

    And for having a pretty decent Unix-based operating system while Ballmer drives Microsoft off a cliff.

    And for designing the first mp3 player that the mass-market embraced.

    And for ushering in the change from feature-phones to smartphones.

    And for creating an earthquake in the tablet market such that in the future it is predicted more tablets will sell than PCs.

    But yeah...they are just famous for being famous...

    ...Until they release a TV with a kinect-like interface running iOS. And then Sony's PS4 and the Wii U crashes and burns, (which is sort of already happening...sales on the Wii U are very poor and Sony's electronics wing isn't doing well either), while everyone is playing Angry Birds on their new Apple TV platform and we get umpteen-million articles about the "New Console Wars," which are now between Microsoft and Apple.

    Of course then a couple years will go by and people will forget all of history and again claim that Apple is just famous for being famous. Such is the cycle of Slashdot.

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    1. Re:What's Apple Famous for Again? by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apple has had great timing.

      All of this stuff was bound to happen around when it happened. Apple saw these things coming and was there at the right time, as opposed to first. But then they always just make a shiny shiny, and half-ass it, because that's enough to get most of the dollars. You know, just like everyone else.

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    2. Re:What's Apple Famous for Again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Apple has had great timing.

      All of this stuff was bound to happen around when it happened. Apple saw these things coming and was there at the right time, as opposed to first. But then they always just make a shiny shiny, and half-ass it, because that's enough to get most of the dollars. You know, just like everyone else.

      I have to disagree with you here. I think Apple created their own timing. The only thing they waited on was broadband internet access. When it was introduced, the iPod blew people away; the iPad did something that Microsoft failed to do for over 10 years: get a tablet to be accepted and used by the general public. I would guess that you could give MS another 10 years and they still wouldn't understand the tablet market without what Apple had done. Google wouldn't have even considered creating Android. MS and Google were happy with the status quo in terms of computing devices. Apple really introduced the computing appliance.

    3. Re:What's Apple Famous for Again? by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 2

      Timing is a skill. If you don't believe me, ask a sharpshooter.

      Or, hell, ask actual entrepreneurs. Some people are too early to market. Some are too late. It's been said that timing is everything, and not just for Comedy.

      But yeah, hey, it's just timing. If it's just timing, why don't YOU do it?

    4. Re:What's Apple Famous for Again? by Karlt1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      There were plenty of MP3 players around before the ipod (and good ones too!).

      Before the iPod, MP3 players were either small with low capacity or used huge fragile laptop drives. They had horrible interfaces and slow transfers.

      Android was in development for a long time before Apple released the iPhone, as were various other similar projects (for example, OpenMoko; which was never taken seriously by the industry, but basically got quite a long way towards producing something similar to the iphone quite a long time before the iphone was actually released). Development takes a long time - Google didn't see the iphone and immediately magic up a competing platform, they were both developed simultaneously and Apple happened to get there first.

      This was Android before the iPhone.....

      http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2170500/googles-android-prototype-smartphone-blackberry-rip

    5. Re:What's Apple Famous for Again? by spirit_fingers · · Score: 2

      What's Apple famous for again? Yup, they are famous for being famous.
      Well that and popularizing the graphic user interface everyone uses in the first place.

      Introduced 29 years ago, by Steve Jobs.

      And for having a pretty decent Unix-based operating system while Ballmer drives Microsoft off a cliff.

      Introduced 13 years ago, by Steve Jobs.

      And for designing the first mp3 player that the mass-market embraced.

      Introduced 12 years ago, by Steve Jobs.

      And for ushering in the change from feature-phones to smartphones.

      Introduced 5 years ago, by Steve Jobs.

      And for creating an earthquake in the tablet market such that in the future it is predicted more tablets will sell than PCs.

      Introduced over 2 years ago, by Steve Jobs.

      See where I'm going with this? We all know Apple's history. The point is: what insanely great innovations have they unveiled since the death of Steve Jobs?
      Answer: NONE.

    6. Re:What's Apple Famous for Again? by Karlt1 · · Score: 2

      The first iPods had huge fragile laptop drives too.

      The first iPods used 1.8" hard drives - not the 2.5" laptop drives.

      In fact, their all-flash offerings prior to the iPhone were the iPod mini and nano

      The Mini use 1" hard drives -- not flash. The shuffle and the nano were the first to use flash.

      which did not do nearly as well as the iPod itself.

      The mini was the best selling iPod before the Nano.

  13. Re:Fanbois don't want to face the truth by nblender · · Score: 2, Informative

    You're an idiot. The most expensive MBP w/Retina display is $2799.. I'm sure you could make it $3000 if you added a bunch of options... Certainly not "mid-range". The cheapest MBP w/Retina display is $1199; just slightly more than your $500-$1000 PC laptop... At the local clearance outlet, I see a similarly configured ASUS, on special, for $699, limit 2 per customer, while supplies last...

    Sure, you can make any point if you're willing to outright lie...

    Not a fanboi; I'm largely indifferent about Apple and I hack linux kernels for a living..

  14. Re:Apple is in trouble by Xest · · Score: 2

    Yeah, I think fundamentally the problem is that Android always made it clear hardware was going to be different between devices, whilst Apple spent a few iterations pretending you could just write for the first few iterations with very few differences, until you couldn't.

    Effectively many early Android apps were built to work with different resolutions, iOS apps weren't and so it meant Apple had this scenario where they had a whole app store full of apps not built to support anything other than 320x480 then all of a sudden along comes the iPad and the iPhone 4 and the app store is full of apps not designed for their respective resolutions resulting in the massively letter boxed/tap to double size hack for those apps that didn't get updated.

    I agree this doesn't preclude the fact that bad developers can still fuck up on any platform of course though as you quite rightly point out, but ultimately Apple should have been honest with themselves (and with developers) from the outset - that they weren't going to stick at 320x480 forever. Had they done this there would be no need for said aforementioned ugly hack.

  15. Re:Apple is in trouble by StormCrow · · Score: 2

    There was no technical reason why the iPad couldn't have just zoomed iPhone apps to near-fullscreen automatically. The reason it doesn't is that Apple wanted to encourage people to think about how to use the extra resolution rather than just expand the screen. The result is that you get a lot of iPad apps that take advantage of the extra room on a tablet vs. a phone, compared to many Android "tablet" apps that are just blown up versions of the phone interface.

  16. Re:The reality distortion field is waning. by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    The henchmen also didn't drink the kool-aid. Whose henchmen were they? You still think they were his?

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  17. My lame rumor seed by zarmanto · · Score: 2, Informative

    Okay, I'll toss one out just for fun: I think the smart money is on an iPhone 5S announcement on June 10th, which will be a minor speed bump, and the new Mac Pro will wait until one of Apple's short-notice-press-conferences in the fall. I have no evidence for the Mac Pro speculation, other than what Cook has publicly stated about their timetables... but I have anecdotal evidence for the iPhone 5S: According to Sprint employees that I spoke to just yesterday, supplies of the current iPhone 5 are starting to dry up. (They couldn't find me the 64GB models at all... I ended up settling for a pair of 32GB models that they had shipped to the store.) When Apple starts to close off the supply chain for a given product, that's usually a good indicator of an impending replacement, and if memory serves, previous reports have suggested that Apple can flush almost their entire supply within about a week. With the WWDC just around the corner, that seems about right to me.

  18. Like my profession's image could get any worse... by robp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To any tech journalists upset that Apple isn't spoon-feeding them product news: Get out. Just leave the business. Please?

    Seriously, if you don't know to do your own digging for a story or don't want to, you're in the wrong line of work. And there are plenty of other people who would gladly take your place.

  19. Re:People are forgetful by harperska · · Score: 2

    You contradict yourself. First, you rightly point out that there will be fast years and slow years, and that people forget history in the slow years with their silly predictions of apple's doom.

    You then forget history yourself when you bring up pointless bs about their stock price. Seriously, zoom out the stock chart to show the last 5 or 10 years, and you will see in context that the drop of $300 is merely correcting an anomaly. From 2009 to 2011, aapl had sustainable growth. Then in 2012 there was a crazy rise followed by a subsequent correction. The loss of $300 per share was a loss of imaginary value, and it has leveled off over the last couple of months anyway. Plus, the value of aapl is so at the mercy of the whims of the mutual funds and "analysts" in the short and medium term that it will take years to see what effect Cook himself will have had on the stock in the first place. Cook was just as responsible for the $300/share boom in the first half of 2012 as he was for the $300/share crash in the second half of 2012. Not much at all.

  20. Re:Apple is in trouble by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 2

    Apple never hints at its products ahead of time. There was no 'hint' of the iPhone 4. Or 4s. Sure, people expect Apple's upgrade cycle now, but they never hint at anything. The secrecy of Apple is legendary.

    Market share, from a business perspective, is only relevant insofar as you can make money off of it. A joke, to illustrate:

    Two guys buy a truck full of watermelons. They pay $5 a watermelon, and rush to the market to sell them. They sell each watermelon for $4, hugely undercutting all the other sellers at the market. They quickly sell out of watermelons, and excitedly go and count their take. They recount the money a few times, and eventually realise that they LOST money on the deal. The first guy turns to the second guy and says, "I told you we should have used a bigger truck!"

    Android's marketshare is big, but only Samsung makes any real money off of it, and their margins aren't as big as Apple's. Apple makes 70% of the profit in mobile devices. (Samsung makes most of the rest of that 30%.)

    It may be that Apple's marketshare will keep dropping--maybe just because the market is getting bigger, but it's possible that their year-on-year sales numbers will drop as well--and so the iPhone might not be the most profitable thing they do anymore in the coming years. But they're good at breaking into new markets with new devices, and $100 billion in the bank, regardless of where it's officially kept, buys a lot of time. (That's why they issued a bond recently, incidentally. They can take on massive debt and people will buy it and make interest off of it because they know Apple is good for it. That money is SOMEWHERE, even if it isn't here. An Apple bond is a really safe investment.)

  21. It's somewhat reasonable to be worried by tlambert · · Score: 2

    It's somewhat reasonable to be worried ... if you are an investor. No one else should much care. So ignore all the journalists who are not business/financial in nature.

    Historically, Apple has an approximately 6 month announcement cycle which corresponds to biannual major public events, one for developers in the fall, and one for everyone else in the spring. At these events, it alternately announces its new desktop/laptop hardware, and then its new iDevices.

    This is one of the few times they've missed their spring announcement in almost a decade; the last time was when Tiger slipped shipping for over six months, and that coincided with a claim of a new 18 month development cycle which lasted only one release cycle. This was actually occasioned by some major management screw-ups internally, coinciding with the first major drop-off in Steve's health.

    Apple has been pretty religious about keeping to this schedule, even through the power shift in 2008/2009 when the taller Oompa Loompsa realized they were more or less in charge of the steering wheel of the chocolate factory, should they want to fight each other to steer.

    The iPhone 5 was more or less a fizzle. They're selling OK, but the difference in aspect ratio, made for economic rather than design reasons, combined with the maps change and other changes resulting from non-renewal of contracts with third party vendors, including Google, made it probably the worst launch for an iDevice and an iOS release in Apple history. Technologically, they are a step away from design being the goal in a design/cost tradeoff, and a step backwards in system software.

    Mountain Lion sold well, but only because they dropped the upgrade price to practically nothing. It was a more or less bug fix release for things that should have never been released in Lion in the first place, and the "Game Center" was a non-feature (no games), and the "Message Center" was moving iOS features into a desktop OS, which makes sense for some of them, but when Facebook integration failed to materialize, even in updates, it's potential utility went down.

    It's pretty clear I called the code on the patient way too early myself, but given that it's hovering at around 60% of its high of about 8 months ago, I'd say it was a matter of "when" not "if" the product pipeline would be drying up.

  22. Re:Fanbois don't want to face the truth by amiga3D · · Score: 2

    To find a decent pc laptop with discrete graphics is more like 1000 dollars. I've shopped them and anything that isn't junk is close to a grand. A lot cheaper than Apple but not anything like the silly 300 dollar laptop you mention. There isn't a single Apple computer with a celeron processor not to mention the crappy lowend AMD processors. The main reason there isn't is that Apple doesn't want to compete in the lowend market. People end up with a piece of shit computer after spending 6 or 7 hundred dollars that is slow as hell thanks to the crapware installed on it and hate the damn thing. They see an Apple user happily using his expensive macbook with no problems and asks how he likes it. The Apple guy of course brags about his expensive toy and guess what? Another convert. Never mind the guy could have bought a shit hot HP laptop for 1500 dollars that is better than the 1500 dollar Apple, he's now convinced Apple is better because of his experience with the shitty walmart acer. Of course to get full enjoyment from the HP he'd have had to wipe the drive and install Arch Linux but he's got no idea that option even exists. Windows 8 by itself will sell tens of thousands of expensive, overpriced Apple laptops. I wonder if the pc makers have noticed there is no crapware on Apple's computers? The dumb asses are crippling their own products.

  23. Intel Apple partnership by shuz · · Score: 2

    It would seem reasonable that Apple and Intel, two giants in tech industry, would partnership with Intel's new Haswell chipset. It is well known that Intel wants to compete more in the "mobile" computing markets. Apple has a solid foothold in the market and can benefit Intel greatly but putting Intel chips in all of their new products. If Apple has the "next big thing" planned already then they may also be waiting for June 3rd/4th to make any announcements following Intels expected unveiling of their new chipset designed primarily for the mobile markets. If this is the case then Intel will start the hype, Apple will build on the hype, ?, profit.

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