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In Praise of the King: 1.7M Social Media Comments In Thailand

An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt from Prachatai.com: "Thailand's Rangers Task Force 45, in response to Army policy, has put its troops to the task of promoting and protecting the monarchy in cyber space, claiming to have posted 1.69 million comments on webboards and social media during a 4-month period of last year ... According to the video clip, the Army Chief has approved the establishment of an army internet network to promote and protect the monarchy by monitoring websites and webboards which have content alluding to the monarchy and countering them by posting comments which worship the institution. ...The unit's military operations personnel provide the troops with information, or what to post, and set them targets for the number of posts they must complete."

104 comments

  1. Praise to the monarch! by Laxori666 · · Score: 5, Funny

    His Majesty King Bhumibol is the most respected one! The monarchy brings great glory to Thailand! Long live the King!

    1. Re:Praise to the monarch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      And the millions of semi-attractive prostitutes his reign has produced!

      After a while, one third world shithole starts to look very much like another.

    2. Re:Praise to the monarch! by c0lo · · Score: 2

      And the millions of semi-attractive prostitutes his reign has produced!

      FTFY

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    3. Re:Praise to the monarch! by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      "Man who go through turnstile sideways is going to Bangkok!"

      --
      Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
    4. Re:Praise to the monarch! by auric_dude · · Score: 1

      I believe the word you are searching for is poodle-faker.

    5. Re:Praise to the monarch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YAWN...
      Slow news day.
      There are paid shills everywhere.
      It's like saying there are suicides amongst Foxconn employees...Breaking News: there are suicides everywhere.

    6. Re:Praise to the monarch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Racist shitbag, go back to Arkansas.

    7. Re:Praise to the monarch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The king's mother was a hamster and his father smelt of elderberries!

    8. Re:Praise to the monarch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't believe the ignorance of some western people on anything outside of their own culture. Every country has a red light district, third and first world alike - and that includes the UK and the US. The only difference between the prostitutes in the third world and the first world, is that the former do it because they're desperate and the latter because they'd rather work as prostitutes than the abundance of more respectable jobs available to them in the first world. It's people like you that perpetuate the ridiculous stigma against interracial relations because you're all just ignorant a**holes.

    9. Re:Praise to the monarch! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      A poodle? Bah, Britain's Chief Mouser to the Cabinet Office would tear him a new ass. (Actually, both of them would, these days.)

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      Ezekiel 23:20
    10. Re:Praise to the monarch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah... still... I wouldn't trade the titties of the Thai "princes" for the ones of Cameron's.

  2. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds more like a dictatorship. I don't know why I'm surprised by this, but I really am. I mean some presidents have been dictators, some prime ministers, some emperors and, of course, some kings. I guess I didn't realise that kings that actually held power still existed (there's no such thing as emperors any more for example).

    1. Re:Hmm by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 2

      Kings started out as dictators. Then they managed to convince people that god had granted them and their children the right to be dictators, and the suckers lapped it up.

    2. Re: Hmm by mumblestheclown · · Score: 0

      Japan would like to have a word with you.

    3. Re:Hmm by interval1066 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thailand is a dictatorship only in as much as the people want it to be. I've spent a lot of time there, and aside from some really rediculous laws concerned with disrespecting his likeness (which are more institutional rather than by his command) the Thai monarchy is hardly what I would call dictatorial. If you go spit on the King's picture in a resturaunt they'll call the police, but its not becuase the King himself decreed it or would give a shit, its just on the books. The PM (currently some guy named Shinawatra, which is like "Smith" in Anglo countries) hold way more power.

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    4. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Really, so you haven't spent enough time there to figure out that the prime minister is a woman. Lemme guess, english expat looking for cheap hookers? Incidentally your knowledge of what the king has and hasn't done is just as weak. Bhumibol ain't no kind of nice guy.

    5. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Even with god's approval, a king is a dictator. The only exception is with powerful feudal lords, where the king is more like a puppet dictator - he holds the power but if doesn't do what he's told the crown will change heads. Nothing wrong with it, even a bad king is better than a dozen lords fighting each other all the time.

      The king of Thailand has no more power than the queen of England - people, for whatever reasons, like him but he doesn't make any real decision. He isn't even that much of a bad guy. The people in the government there are much worse for abusing the laws to "protect" the monarchy. But fake posts aren't a big deal, China does it, the USA does it...

    6. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Section 45, the next time some chinless english taxi driver tourist ejaculates in the anus of your daughter, ejaculates in the anus of your mother, ejaculates in the anus of your sister, comfort yourself with the thought that at least he earns more in a half hour than you earn in a month, because people like you enable the king to live in wealth and luxury. Because of the decisions you've made, your womenfolk are turned into whores for the dregs of the US and UK. You have forgotten the path of the Buddha, and you will not have a happy reincarnation.

    7. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the point of the laws against insulting the king is to prevent sedition and rebellion. They'd care that you did it more if you were powerful.

    8. Re:Hmm by interval1066 · · Score: 2

      I haven't been there in 10 years. Whatever.

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      Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
    9. Re:Hmm by interval1066 · · Score: 1

      They'd care that you did it more if you were powerful.

      And yet, if I did it in an anglo country, no harm, no foul.

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    10. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The PM is a woman, but her brother is calling the shots from exile...

    11. Re:Hmm by donscarletti · · Score: 1

      Yingluck Shinawatra is not just a woman, but a really attractive one. She's an even bigger PMILF than Yulia Tymoshenko was, but lets face it, the bar fine for a head of government is way out of my pricerange.

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    12. Re:Hmm by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      If you're having naughty thoughts about her, shouldn't the nickname "crab" be a warning to you? *nudge nudge, wink wink*

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      Ezekiel 23:20
    13. Re:Hmm by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Thailand is a dictatorship only in as much as the people want it to be. I've spent a lot of time there, and aside from some really rediculous laws concerned with disrespecting his likeness (which are more institutional rather than by his command) the Thai monarchy is hardly what I would call dictatorial. If you go spit on the King's picture in a resturaunt they'll call the police, but its not becuase the King himself decreed it or would give a shit, its just on the books. The PM (currently some guy named Shinawatra, which is like "Smith" in Anglo countries) hold way more power.

      The government in Thailand is dictatorial for all intents and purposes.

      However the King of Thailand has as much real power as the Queen of England, as you pointed out the Shinawatra family alone holds much more power and they are not the only powerful family in Bangkok. Pretty much the entire country is run by these families who tend to own most of the companies in Thailand.

      Thailand is pretty much a non-functioning democracy (if the wrong person is elected, there will be a coup) but the King is not part of it. He's a figurehead and cult of personality but far from having any real power.

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    14. Re:Hmm by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Really, so you haven't spent enough time there to figure out that the prime minister is a woman.

      The PM is a Shinawatra, sister of deposed PM Thaksin Shinawatra. She also wasn't elected, rather installed after a series of "protests" removed the elected government (Abhisit).

      You have to be pretty stupid not to be able to put two and two together and figure out that Thaksin is pulling the strings, especially since she called for a pardon for Thaksin 2 weeks after getting into office.

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      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
    15. Re:Hmm by nickserv · · Score: 1

      He may be pulling some strings from afar but his influence is waning considerably.
      However, you would have to be pretty stupid not to know that the current PM was elected: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_general_election,_2011 and that this isn't exactly the government Thais want. It was the democrat party, that was in power before the election, who got there with administrative maneuvers.

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      Less *is* more.
    16. Re:Hmm by nickserv · · Score: 1

      I agree with your characterization of a non-functioning democracy but, you're wrong that the king is simply a figurehead. The monarchy wields considerable power and influence with the government and private sector through the privy counsel. He's the 4th richest man in the world, personally, even without full disclosure of his wealth. The assets belong to the monarchy (him), they are not property of the country in trust to the monarchy, there's no comparison. The military answers to the monarchy and the monarchy first. The monarchy may choose to not visibly exercise their authority often but, don't mistake that they have a very big hand in shaping the larger landscape of their land. No coup happens without their approval, the military is insanely loyal to the monarchy above all.

      I think you know just enough about Thai politics to sound like an authority but, with all due respect, you're not. I've lived here 7-years and I'm still not either.

      Finally, from the Asian / Thai perspective the harsh lesse lèse-majesté laws make sense... The monarchy occupies the highest rung on the social ladder and therefore, must be respectful to everyone and can't speak ill of anyone so, not being able to defend themselves, the state put into place laws to defend them. I'm from the US so it's hard to reckon with my system of logic but, it makes perfect sense to Thais.

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      Less *is* more.
  3. in the US by Kohath · · Score: 2, Insightful

    we have Media Matters Action Network, NBC, NPR, the Washington Post, the AP, and the New York Times for this.

    1. Re:in the US by WGFCrafty · · Score: 3, Insightful

      we have Media Matters Action Network, NBC, NPR, the Washington Post, the AP, and the New York Times for this.

      It's like people have forgotten what a real state run press is like. This is not insightful just one of the obligatory cynical remarks which abound here. Besides, several of the places you posted have extensive critical commentaries about recent revelations.

    2. Re:in the US by NettiWelho · · Score: 2, Insightful

      we just get audited by the IRS.

      And get your email and phonecalls monitored by the rest of the alphabet soup agencies.
      Or get legally droned if your government states that they consider you to be engaged in combat with them.
      Or get legally held indefintaly without a trial or a charge if you fit the criteria they themselves come up with.
      Also you jail most people in the world; in historical perspective only Nazi-Germany and USSR had more prisoners in proportion to population. That should be telling.

    3. Re:in the US by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      Also you jail most people in the world; in historical perspective only Nazi-Germany and USSR had more prisoners in proportion to population. That should be telling.

      This is the US of A! We won't stop til we're #1!

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      We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
    4. Re:in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always forget for a bit, and then I come across some unsubtle propaganda on BBC or MSNBC. The parallels with the media of my childhood are many. Surely a bigger problem is people who have forgotten what free press looks like?

    5. Re:in the US by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      What people have forgotten is that there was never any such thing as a free press. Newspapers got started off by people trying to promote their own viewpoint and nothing has changed since. Even the blogosphere is more free than the press ever were.

    6. Re:in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think you understand what 'free' means.

  4. Welcome to the new 50 Cent party. by auric_dude · · Score: 3, Informative

    I, for one, welcome our new 50 Cent Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party Overlords (Thailand Branch).

    1. Re:Welcome to the new 50 Cent party. by interval1066 · · Score: 1

      ...50 Cent Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

      Seriously? You gotta wonder about a political system petty enough to have something like this.

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      Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
    2. Re:Welcome to the new 50 Cent party. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      I, for one, welcome our new 50 Cent Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party Overlords (Thailand Branch).

      Ironically, the Red Chinese appear to be hiring private 'social marketing contractors' to espouse the virtues of the Glorious Communist Party, while the Thais are using public-sector employees for the purpose...

      (Incidentally, has anyone ever come out looking less foolish by using sock puppets?)

    3. Re:Welcome to the new 50 Cent party. by mjwx · · Score: 1

      I, for one, welcome our new 50 Cent Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party Overlords (Thailand Branch).

      Surely that would be the "Ha Sip Satang" party.

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      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
  5. Remake every war movie now! by khasim · · Score: 1

    Thailand's Rangers Task Force 45, in response to Army policy, has put its troops to the task of promoting and protecting the monarchy in cyber space, ...

    Retweeting Private Ryan.

    And yet that made sense to someone in their military.

    1. Re:Remake every war movie now! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Thailand's Rangers Task Force 45, in response to Army policy, has put its troops to the task of promoting and protecting the monarchy in cyber space, ...

      Retweeting Private Ryan.

      And yet that made sense to someone in their military.

      If I were in their military, I'd seriously consider trying to get a heroic assignment with the Rangers Task Force 45, Fightin' Keyboards Company, if it meant getting to spend my tour trolling the internet rather than any of the numerous dirty, dangerous, and/or tedious assignments that soldiers tend to get stuck with. Maybe even get a mild carpal tunnel injury from defending the king too hard, and have to accept an honorable discharge, wounded serving king and country!

      I'd roll my eyes the whole time, of course; but it'd beat many of the alternatives...

    2. Re:Remake every war movie now! by khasim · · Score: 1

      I don't know but I've been told
      4th platoon got Rick Rolled
      Am I right or wrong? (you're right!)
      Are we going strong? (we're strong!)

  6. It's his country by memnock · · Score: 1

    I guess they can do what he wants.

    It's one thing to require the troops to sing the king's praises. It's another to criminalize people who might justly criticize the king. From what I (might mis)remember, he's a popular king. But that doesn't mean every Thai likes him.

    Stuff like this makes me wary of him though.

    1. Re:It's his country by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you require people to sing ones praises without criminalizing criticising them?

    2. Re:It's his country by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 2

      It is more in the military's interests to promote the king than the king himself. The military wants to marginalized democratic (read money) influence in national politics. The king isn't that long for this earth...

    3. Re:It's his country by Trepidity · · Score: 1

      The king also doesn't really have any political power, so whether lèse-majesté laws will be enforced or not isn't even his decision. He reportedly is not too keen on them, and even made a speech in 2005 indirectly criticizing them. The speech argued that saying the king couldn't be criticized would imply the king is infallible and not a human, which isn't the case.

      But the king is just a symbol used as convenient by the people who actually do have power, so the lèse-majesté laws aren't really about him.

    4. Re:It's his country by mjwx · · Score: 1

      It is more in the military's interests to promote the king than the king himself. The military wants to marginalized democratic (read money) influence in national politics. The king isn't that long for this earth...

      The Thai military already has a huge role in the nations politics.

      Thailand is a "democracy" that has had one prime minister complete their entire term in 50 years. Many were deposed via military intervention.

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      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
    5. Re:It's his country by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      But their only moral standing is their support of the monarchy. Without that, all they have is guns. It works either way, but the latter gives cause for their power to be challenged.

    6. Re:It's his country by mjwx · · Score: 1

      But their only moral standing is their support of the monarchy. Without that, all they have is guns. It works either way, but the latter gives cause for their power to be challenged.

      You haven't been to Thailand have you?

      The Thai military have, in the past openly deposed a government supported by the King. The King had his statements retroactively changed.

      They dont need legitimacy, they have it already. The majority of the country doesn't care who rules as long as they can go about their daily lives. This is because the majority of the country is very poor. "Moral Standing" falls under "First World Problems". No-one is really going to fight them for 500 Baht (which is the going rate for a "protester" in Thailand) when they have no real interest in the fight. Thais are happy enough to live with highly corrupt governments (and have done so ever since the King gave up absolute rule in the 30's).

      This would more be the work of an overzealous commander angling for a promotion. Nepotism is rife in the Thai military, there are only three ways up, be rich, be the son of someone important or be ingratiated to someone important. Occams razor simply says this is a low ranking colonel trying to raise his profile.

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      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
    7. Re:It's his country by nickserv · · Score: 1

      No, you're wrong. The monarchy is very powerful. http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3841957&cid=43965861

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      Less *is* more.
  7. CIA helped build up the cult of monarchy by Goonie · · Score: 2, Informative

    The King of Thailand has long had an officially-backed, and in early years American-assisted, cult of personality. It's illegal to criticise the king in Thailand, and hundreds of people are convicted of insulting the King every year, and in many cases thrown in jail for extended periods of time.

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    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
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    1. Re:CIA helped build up the cult of monarchy by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      Hey, by the standards of US anti-communist puppets, the guy is practically a saint... Moderate levels of political repression, limited extrajudicial killings, no genocides!

    2. Re:CIA helped build up the cult of monarchy by artor3 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Wikipedia article you link says the laws against insulting the king date back to 1908, long before American involvement. It goes on to say that they didn't start really enforcing the law heavily until 2006, long after any cold war meddling.

      But you brilliantly wove the a couple truths together to create a magnificent lie: that the US is responsible for Thailand's laws against criticizing the monarch. Well done. I'd wager, by your current +5 Informative score, that quite a few people fell for it. It really goes to show that any lie can be believed, if only you throw in a couple unrelated hyperlinks to make it look official.

      And it certainly helps if it's anti-American, since people just love to have a big scary villain to rage against.

    3. Re:CIA helped build up the cult of monarchy by nickserv · · Score: 1

      As a US citizen residing in Thailand for the last 7-years I'd like to say, very well said and thank you!

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      Less *is* more.
  8. Good use of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'd hate to see the money funding that going to, for instance, HIV/AIDS awareness so that maybe some day Thailand won't have the highest HIV infection rate in Asia. Good job, King Ramalamading-dong!

  9. get on board....Soul Train by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    once you have their souls, their hearts and minds will follow.

  10. Needs a name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I propose their name be the butthurt squad.

  11. He sure does by lesincompetent · · Score: 2

    Judging by his embarrassing fuckface, Bhumibol Adulyadej Ramadhibodi Chakrinarubodin Sayamindaradhraj Boromanatbophit loves gerbilling and practices it avidly.
    Too bad he won't end like all bad monarchs deserve.

  12. Obama's paid twitter followers by Frankie70 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    70% of Obama's twitter followers are fake and paid for.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/fashion/twitter-followers-for-sale.html?_r=0

  13. Re:Somebody has to do it... by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can do that?!? Wow, I guess their economy really does rely heavily on prostitution.

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  14. Re:The Monarchy In Thailand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The Thai king is a douchebag and a giant piece of dogshit, and he sucks balls.

    The Thai king has repeatedly voiced his displeasure at the cases of people being prosecuted for speaking their mind. His only failing is that he hasn't been more forceful with those elements of the government who keep on persecuting those who do.

  15. in the US by Kohath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    we just get audited by the IRS.

  16. KingBot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Meh. Hire some Russian dudes to write a KingBot and install it on compromised workstations. They'll praise the crap out of your ruler. 1.7 million? Chicken feed.

  17. And don't forget, we have Obama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yep, and his PRISM program and his 3 month deal with Verizon

    Long live Emperor Obama !!

  18. Obligatory by Stormwatch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I fart in king Bhumibol's general direction. His mother was a binturong and his father smelt of durians.

    1. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His mother was a binturong and his father smelt of durians.

      Could Barbara Streisand be described as a binturong?

    2. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AC because I don't want my name any where near this. I like Thailand enough to bend to their law (no comment on what I think of it) to be allowed to visit in peace. Hell, I've followed stranger laws in my home country. You might want to avoid Thailand for a while...
      Linky.

    3. Re:Obligatory by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      And here is my obligatory answer to this type of comment.

      In Soviet times, you can tell what period by the context:

      Reagan meets Brezhnev and calls him to freedom of speech:

      - In my country, people can go in front of Kremlin and shout "Reagan is an idiot".

      Brezhnev replies,

      - Well, this is allowed in my country too: you can go in front of Kremlin and shout "Reagan is an idiot".

      The point here is that you are shouting "The King is an idiot" in front of your computer anonymously.

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  19. Nothing new by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 0

    The Thais are just copying the last Obama campaign.

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    "The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
  20. Ballmering by notknown86 · · Score: 0

    It reminds me of the comments that understand my frustration with unusable things, but personally find that Windows 8 is an incredibly usable operating system and I just don't understand how usable it truly is.

  21. If their Army has so little to do... by Nutria · · Score: 1

    maybe they can come help us in Afghanistan.

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    "I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
  22. Trollin... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Like a king.

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    1. Re:Trollin... by Laxori666 · · Score: 1

      Trolling is when you intend to annoy people. I intended to amuse people =).

  23. Re:The Monarchy In Thailand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welcome Task Force 45! How does it feel to know that you've actively contributed to keeping your nation the whorehouse of southeast asia?

  24. Re:The Monarchy In Thailand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Thai king is a douchebag and a giant piece of dogshit, and he sucks balls.

    The Thai king has repeatedly voiced his displeasure at the cases of people being prosecuted for speaking their mind. His only failing is that he hasn't been more forceful with those elements of the government who keep on persecuting those who do.

    Then why doesn't he do something about it, being the king and all?

  25. Everybody does it, all NATO countries atleast by xiando · · Score: 1

    ..and it's been going on for years. I posted about the false-flag terrorist operation September 11th 2001 in a Norwegian forum. Some guy sent me a private message there asking for more details about what I knew about it. I gave him a specially crafted link to one of my webservers and it was interesting, but not very shocking, to see this "17 year student" visiting from IP 158.112.84.2 - which belongs to the Norwegian military. I suspect most countries has a disinformation / "cyperspace" unit. It's all jolly to talk about how they do this in Thailand here in the west, but cyberwar and torture of people who write "wrong things" on the Internet, like Norway does on a regular basis, is apparently not newsworthy in the "free" western world.

    1. Re:Everybody does it, all NATO countries atleast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fascinating. I'm sure there exist no parents of 17yo students in the Norwegian military, and I'm sure none of these nonexistent 17yos live on base, and I'm sure none of them use the internet. I'm sure your suuuuuper-important nutjob views are soooo interesting to the government. I'm absolutely certain you're not borderline paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of grandeur. I know all that because I'm a gnome in the Zurich Illuminati. You know it's true because I'm posting anonymously.

  26. Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a huge waste of money regardless of your feelings towards the king.

  27. Re:The Monarchy In Thailand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Then why doesn't he do something about it, being the king and all?

    Because, like many other contemporary monarchs, he is head of state not head of government; he is kept around only because he has no real power.

  28. Re:The Monarchy In Thailand by jimmydevice · · Score: 1

    pacifism is compliance

  29. Astroturfing Is Still Alive! by maz2331 · · Score: 1

    Nothing like some good old-fashioned astroturfing!

  30. Be careful to judge too quickly... by HnT · · Score: 2

    Let's take a step back for a second and just accept that other countries have different cultures and in the case of Thailand, the monarchy is actually very respected by a large portion of the population because the king, unlike many other monarchs, is not only quite well educated but really did a lot for his country and his people. Not only has Thailand never been a Western colony, they only started to open more towards the West and Western culture at around the turn of the 20th century. To top that off, "democracy" has so far been more of a process in Thailand for a lot of reasons.

    What you are seeing now and saw a few years back in the riots and rapid changes of government is essentially a struggle between the old and dying benevolent constitutional monarchy which still had a lot of power and the new ultra-capitalistic push for power of none other than Thaksin Shinawatra; he has been challenging the king these last years, something that has pretty much not happened before. Thaksin likes to present himself as a "humble" down-to-earth man, yet he is by far the richest and one of the most powerful man of the country and it is safe to assume he did not get to that height without bodies in his cellar; some of those he was convicted for and had to stay in exile.

    There were no wrong-doings by the monarchy prior to the military coup but Thaksin was pushing for power with TRT to grow his huge business empire at that time and buying voters and that's when through the monarch the military put a foot down and he was trialed for nepotism and corruption amongst others.

    Now I know, you are going to argue these were wrong allegations and he is pretty much a "saint" trying to bring freedom to the population against an oppressive regime. The reason you are saying so is because this is the picture Thaksin's followers were very busy painting for the international media throughout the military coups. It is essentially a calculated way of presenting the Western media with an image everyone here can easily understand - the oppressed farmers fighting against their oppressors. Yet, in the case of Thailand this just is not true. Thailand clearly has a lot of issues but it is wrong to blame the king and the monarchy for that and the people in Thailand are not oppressed, they are somewhere stuck between the old ways of the monarchy and moving toward bona-fide western democracy, they just are not there yet. Like I said, democracy is not yet 100% there in Thailand and it is going to take them a while longer... much like what you saw as outcomes of the "Arab spring". You don't drop the democracy bomb and everything is going to be great and wholesome in a week.

    And before you argue in favor of the rebels and Thaksin voters, consider the fact that a huge portion of the votes were just bought from poor farmers. That's what I mean, that's how Thaksin is challenging the monarchy. He presents a new feeding hand and asks absolute loyalty in return. For nothing but his own gain in power and to grow his businesses and influence. Imagine Larry Ellison buying the presidency. This is not democracy either, yet with a huge part of the population being poor you will find it hard to establish a real democracy because starving people want food and they don't care who gives them bread.

    So don't be too quick to side against the king and the monarchy and for Thaksin and his henchmen just because the romantic Western idea of oppressed people fighting against an abusive state feels good in your rebellious first world tummies.

    As ridiculous as what they are doing may seem to you, essentially they are pushing back against what Thaksin and his henchmen have been doing ever since the riots. Thaksin has grown huge in media, he knows how to influence the international opinion and how to twist things the right way. You are getting front row seats to an internal political power struggle, that's all this is. There is no "good" and "evil" side, if anything it is the conservative and well educated against the poor under the leadership of greed

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    1. Re:Be careful to judge too quickly... by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      So tell us genius, if the king is so popular and harmless, why does he need an entire branch of the military to look after his online reputation?

      Whoops.

    2. Re:Be careful to judge too quickly... by mjwx · · Score: 1

      So tell us genius, if the king is so popular and harmless, why does he need an entire branch of the military to look after his online reputation?

      What makes you think the King ordered this?

      If you bothered to read the GP's post, "genius" you'd have figured out that the King's image is used more by the political powerbrokers like Thaksin Shinawatra than the King himself. They use the King's image to curry favour with the people (well, the King is highly respected, unlike the Shinawatra's).

      The King of Thailand has no real power, he couldn't order the military to do anything. At the very worst, this is just a bit of hero worship from an overzealous general.

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    3. Re:Be careful to judge too quickly... by nickserv · · Score: 1

      The best post I've read in this thread, finally someone who understands Thailand. US expat, 7-year resident of Thailand.

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  31. They should learn from the JIDF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are terribly efficient. What how they make this comment dissappear instantly.

    Poof!

  32. Re:The Monarchy In Thailand by Dahamma · · Score: 1

    Except one power he does have (that completely negates your point here) is the royal pardon.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/9391118/Thai-king-pardons-US-car-salesman-over-royal-insult.html

    But apparently he only does that for American citizens when highly pressured by the US state department, and not for his own citizens...

  33. Re:The Monarchy In Thailand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Thai king has repeatedly voiced his displeasure at the cases of people being prosecuted for speaking their mind. His only failing is that he hasn't been more forceful with those elements of the government who keep on persecuting those who do.

    No, he's repeatedly voiced his displeasure in English-language interviews with foreign journalists. In Thai speeches? Not so much.

  34. This is a terrible thing by PhamNguyen · · Score: 1

    But what's worse is that some anti-semites might compare this to what Israeli is doing. Clearly such a comparison would be unwarranted.

    1. Re:This is a terrible thing by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      You confused anti-semites and anti-zionists, didn't you?

    2. Re:This is a terrible thing by PhamNguyen · · Score: 1

      No I was just mocking the tendency of anyone who criticizes Israel being called an antisemite. I was pointing out that a person who said exactly the same thing about the Israeli policy, as people are saying about the Thai policy, would be called antisemitic.

      The problem with saying "I'm an anti-Zionist, not an anti-Semite" is that it plays into the narrative that there are these bad guy anti-Semites out there, and every time someone criticizes Israel they have to prove that they are not one of them.

    3. Re:This is a terrible thing by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      OTOH, each time you leave someone with an opportunity to blend anti-semitism (which is a flavor of racism) with anti-zionism (which is a geopolitical and/or religious opinion), you help zionists that would like to fight the later by labeling it as the former.

  35. propaganda or spam? by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    Given the volume, I do not know whether I shall call this propaganda or spam. If it is propaganda, I suspect it is so blunt that it is rather ineffective.

  36. Re: The Monarchy In Thailand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He actually tends to use that on most people convicted of disrespecting him. And has spent a ton of his personal money on improving the agricultural infrastructure of Thailand. He's actually a pretty decent dude. Popular opinion might turn on his son though, he is a lot more of a douchebad

  37. GREAT use of the military, I approve by mha · · Score: 2

    MUCH better than what the US used its military for most of the time since WWII.

    1. Re:GREAT use of the military, I approve by nickserv · · Score: 1

      I was going to post a comment about how wasteful this is but, I guess you've got a point when compared to the waste in the US military and yes, they are not out and about in the world war mongering.

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  38. Re: The Monarchy In Thailand by madprof · · Score: 1

    Yeah he is a total saint. If he had any reasonable morals he would do something. Which he doesn't.

  39. Choice by AndyCanfield · · Score: 1

    Thailand is imperfect; the United States is imperfect. As my father said many years ago, you pays your money and takes your choice. I decided twenty years ago that I would rather die in Thailand than live in America. I'm still here.

    Any of you are welcome to come and take a look.

  40. All Glory to the Hypnotoad by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1
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  41. Re:Parent Score +1 ON topic by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1

    70% of Obama's twitter followers are fake and paid for.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/fashion/twitter-followers-for-sale.html?_r=0

    Parent Score +1 ON topic. "And ida been able to get away with my Obama astroturfing... if it weren't for those meddling kids." Must! suppress! dissent! for! Obama!

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