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Keeping Your Data Private From the NSA (And Everyone Else)

Nerval's Lobster writes "If those newspaper reports are accurate, the NSA's surveillance programs are enormous and sophisticated, and rely on the latest in analytics software. In the face of that, is there any way to keep your communications truly private? Or should you resign yourself to saying or typing, 'Hi, NSA!' every time you make a phone call or send an email? Fortunately there are ways to gain a measure of security: HTTPS, Tor, SCP, SFTP, and the vendors who build software on top of those protocols. But those host-proof solutions offer security in exchange for some measure of inconvenience. If you lose your access credentials, you're likely toast: few highly secure services include a 'Forgot Your Password?' link, which can be easily engineered to reset a password and username without the account owner's knowledge. And while 'big' providers like Google provide some degree of encryption, they may give up user data in response to a court order. Also, all the privacy software in the world also can't prevent the NSA (or other entities) from capturing metadata and other information. What do you think is the best way to keep your data locked down? Or do you think it's all a lost cause?"

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  1. Run your own servers and use encryption by kullnd · · Score: 5, Informative

    Only way you can keep your data yours while sitting at rest is to have it on your own servers and utilize proper encryption and security on those servers. That means don't use "cloud" anything unless it's on equipment you own, run your own email servers, etc. Remember that even doing this, emails that you send to other people can be accessed through whatever servers they use.

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  2. Re: Can't have it all. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't want "it all". I just want our government to respect our rights and our Constitution. Is that too much to ask?

  3. Security through obscurity by Synerg1y · · Score: 5, Informative

    1. Use an email provider nobody's heard about.
    2. Keep social network data private, more importantly don't post anything sensitive.
    3. Don't engage in terrorism, they really hate that.
    4. Somewhere between "get off Windows" and use a live disk, I don't think any OS is truly secure.
    5. Don't save anything locally, keep your accounts hidden, no email notifications.

    Wave at the black SUV outside your window as not having any traceable data may warrant suspicion in itself.

    Move to SA (either one).

  4. Re:Can't have it all. by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Those who worry are usually those who have something to hide or something criminal in the works.

    You won't mind me wiretapping your phones, installing caneras in your home and adding keyloggers to your computers? You're not a criminal with anything to hide, right?

  5. Game the system ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just game the system. I've started typing random shit in gmail before I do anything ... let 'em see lots of false positives.

    You know, I'm glad nobody KILLED OBAMA. Durka durka, mohammed jihad. Monsanto sucks. Bush was a simpleton. Death to American cheese.

    Gotta go, someone's at the door ...

    1. Re:Game the system ... by mapsjanhere · · Score: 5, Funny

      Close. Just copy nsa.gov on every email you send. It's just courtesy, not a DDoS, and not our fault if their servers can't handle it.

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  6. Lol by lightknight · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As with all things, assume that your communications are going to be monitored, whether electronic or not. I know, I know, it's not the answer you want; but the truth is...we put innocent people to death. If we are willing to do that, and not tear down our societies in an act of grief over the loss of a single innocent life, looking deeply within and without as to how or why we allowed this to happen, and how we can prevent it from ever happening again, then caring about protecting your privacy from the monsters waiting outside your door is the wrong approach. You're fighting Evil himself, and he aims to win by any means; if putting a gun to the head of one your children's heads to get you to decrypt your hard drive is what it takes, then he will do it, no hesitation.

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  7. Re: Can't have it all. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, privacy isn't mentioned in the Bill of Rights at all. It has been inferred though not explicitly mentioned.

  8. Re:Can't have it all. by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bottom line, you can't care about this, unless you do wrong or plan on doing wrong.

    "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." Cardinal Richelieu.

    See, when your government spies on everything you do, sooner or later someone will come along and decide that since they already have this information, they can use it for other things.

    If you don't grasp this, I suggest you read more about Joseph McCarthy -- America is entirely capable of political persecution as any other government.

    Bottom line, with your attitude, you deserve to be dragged off in the night, because you're part of the problem with the complacency and people not seeing what's really wrong here. That's kinda how I see it.

    Since you're not part of the solution, you are the problem.

    Twenty years ago, the US would make jokes about "papers please" and the Soviets. Now, that's just normal routine.

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  9. Easy by Sparticus789 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Live in a cabin in the mountains that is over 100 miles from the nearest cell phone tower. Also ensure that you have top cover so satellite surveillance cannot see your house. Add enough insulating material (dirt would be easiest) above your cabin so that there is little/no thermal footprint. And never leave your new found cabin, since cars and feet all leave tracks.

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    1. Re:Easy by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny

      Live in a cabin in the mountains that is over 100 miles from the nearest cell phone tower. Also ensure that you have top cover so satellite surveillance cannot see your house. Add enough insulating material (dirt would be easiest) above your cabin so that there is little/no thermal footprint. And never leave your new found cabin, since cars and feet all leave tracks.

      I cover my footprints with aluminum foil, so the satellites and drones can't spot them.

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  10. Re: Can't have it all. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your an idiot.

    /facepalm

  11. Re:I hide my data in big wheels of cheese by Qzukk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your Swiss cheese security is full of holes!

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  12. Re:Can't have it all. by 1s44c · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The old 'if you are innocent you have nothing to fear' argument. I thought that one went out of fashion when the German Jews realized that being innocent is no defense again tyrants.

  13. Why the hell are people accepting this? by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the kind of crap that was held up as examples of why communist countries were so much worse than the US.
    People, the government is supposed to work for you, not the other way around.

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    1. Re:Why the hell are people accepting this? by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 5, Informative

      According to wikipedia, in 2001 a total of 3547 people died in terrorist attacks. Worst year on record.
      According to wikipedia, in 2001 in the US 42,196 people died in traffic accidents.
      According to Wikipedia in 2001 (A crappy graph) approximately 8000 people were killed with handguns in the US.

      Someone tell me why the threat of terrorism gets so much attention.

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    2. Re:Why the hell are people accepting this? by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They are. Why else are they recording everything you do?

      Remember, Snowden has committed "treason." Treason means he gave aid and comfort to an enemy of The United States. The jihadists already knew they were being watched. Only the American people didn't. What enemy, exactly, did he give aid and comfort to?

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  14. Fighting the impossible fight. by Dputiger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with heavily encrypted solutions is that they rely on human perfection. There was a story a few months back about Sabu. He eluded the FBI for months until, in a hotel room, he made the mistake of logging into IRC without using Tor first.

    That was all it took. One non-Tor login, and the FBI had him.

    Human beings are not designed for constant watchfulness. We make mistakes. We screw up. Even if *you* stay perfect, the person or persons you're communicating with may not, and if the FBI or NSA wants the details of what you're talking about, they can "break" the encryption at either end of the conversation. Maybe they can't find you -- but if they find the people you're talking to, they can still grab the info.

    I'm not saying that all security is useless, or that there's no benefit to raising the bar. My point is that the solution to this is to *stop spying.* Because, in the long run, almost everyone screws up.

  15. Stop paying the NSA by holophrastic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So let me get this straight. You've got a military that spends trillions of dollars. You've got eight national defence organizations screwing with your own citizens. And a) you think that you can dodge an organization that has spent that many dollars purely to find you, and b) you think that you don't have a cultural problem?

    Where do you think all of those funds come from? For every tax dollar that you spend, how much goes to military, para-military, and anti-crime organizations? How much of it winds up in actual crime? Are you spending more on anti-crime than you would on crime in the first place?

    Maybe you should solve the actual problem. Maybe you should start electing officials who spend your money on things that you like, instead of things that you dislike. I can't vote for you.

    And correct me if I'm wrong -- you see, my country earned its independence by asking nicely -- doesn't your country believe in violently fighting your own government to break free of restrictions to your freedoms? Have you forgotten how to do that? Your right to fight would seem to be the only freedom for which you do fight, and then you don't use that right to protect your other freedoms.

    One of these days, you'll wake up to realize that you've kept the right, but eliminated the opportunity. What good is the right to bear arms when you can't get away with using it?

  16. Re: Can't have it all. by PetiePooo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wrong, wrong, wrong! And wrong!

    It's a common fallacy spouted by those who foist surveillance on us. See here, here, or any other of the many hits when you search for privacy "nothing to hide"

    It goes right along with the "privacy and security are mutually exclusive" fallacy.

    People like you that are trading your long-term liberty and privacy for a current sense of security are going to rue this day eventually. These essential freedoms need constant vigilance. Many of our forefathers died defending them. They're rolling in their graves now seeing how so many are nonchalantly pissing them away.

    Here's your homework. Go read the Constitution of the United States of America. No, really. Read it line by line and understand why some say it's the most important and influential document created in the last 1000 years.

  17. Re:I hide my data in big wheels of cheese by CannonballHead · · Score: 5, Funny

    That would be pure weevil. Weevil incarnate.

  18. Re:Can't have it all. by Frobnicator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This presupposes that privacy is a right, rather than a privilege.

    This is part of the reasons we have so many problems with government. At the time the US government was formed the premise was:

    The people have all the rights; the government has no rights at all, except those granted by the people through the constitution.

    For most people today the belief similar, except they swap people and government.

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  19. Dragging the usual dead horse out for a beating... by Medievalist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Those who worry are usually those who have something to hide or something criminal in the works.. Bottom line, you can't care about this, unless you do wrong or plan on doing wrong. That's kinda how I see it.

    Nope. You don't see it at all. Because illegal is not a synonym for wrong .

    Over 2000 years ago, Sun Tzu pointed out that when the laws imposed by the rulers are aligned with the customs and ethics of the people, societies are prosperous and resistant to crime, war and rebellion. When the rulers lose the way, as the corporate overlords of the USA have, the people become unhappy and the society becomes progressively more fragile over time. Eventually a neighbor invades or a province revolts and the rulers are replaced, because nobody's willing to die to protect them anymore.

  20. Re: Can't have it all. by GLMDesigns · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The word "privacy" isn't used but please reread the 4th Amendment:

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    Tell me if this isn't a more exact definition of privacy than simply stating: "People have a right to privacy."

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  21. Re:I hide my data in big wheels of cheese by J'raxis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wrong. If Google cared, they could take measures to immunize themselves against court orders.

    Courts can only order that these businesses divulge data they have. Google could encrypt your email, docs, &c., that are stored on their servers using your login password, and so long as they don't store your login password, they cannot now decrypt the data. All they could respond to a court order with would be an encrypted blob and, "if you want the data, subpoena the owner and get the password from him." No more spying without the owner's knowledge.

    Google's encryption is just HTTPS, which is end-to-end between the user and Google's servers. It's great for protecting against MITM attacks, but useless to protect against Google themselves.