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India To Send World's Last Telegram

New submitter afarhan writes "India will pull the plug on its 160-year-old telegram service on 14 July, this year. This will probably be the last telegram ever sent in the world. However, telegrams are still relevant in this vast country. More than 500 million people are still without access to a phone or Internet. For these people, telegram still remains the only digital communication available. 'At their peak in 1985, 60 million telegrams were being sent and received a year in India from 45,000 offices. Today, only 75 offices exist, though they are located in each of India's 671 districts through franchises. And an industry that once employed 12,500 people, today has only 998 workers.' In India, telegram is also considered a legal correspondence."

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  1. The Last Telegram by interval1066 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Reports say that as India pulls the plug on the system the last telegram in its buffers will be Ambassador Zimmerman asking Mexico if it would like to join Germany in attacking America. India reported to be indifferent on the subject.

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  2. not the world's last by Trepidity · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When Western Union discontinued its telegraph service in 2006, it sold off the network to iTelegram, which inexplicably still seems to be in business.

    1. Re:not the world's last by bsane · · Score: 2

      This looks like it could conceivably have value:

      http://www.itelegram.com/telegram/contract-cancellation.asp

      Legally accepted time stamped with receipt- much fast than you'd ever get with registered mail.

    2. Re:not the world's last by pjt33 · · Score: 2

      In the UK, the Queen still sends people telegrams on their 100th birthday.

  3. Nope ... Service still available in Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well sorry for the Article but it's actually false :) Telegram is still alive and kicking in Europe ... for instance in Belgium where you can still send Telegrams right now !
    Here is the national telecommunication operator page about it :

    www.belgacom.be/en/private/products-and-services/fixed-telephony/options-and-services/other-services?page=p_other_services_available
            Telegram

            There are several formulas to choose from:
                    Comfort Telegram
                    A telegram ordered via the post.
                            With an illustration for offering condolences or congratulations.
                            Without an illustration.
                    The Standard National Telegram
                    The "conventional", revised and corrected telegram delivered by Taxipost, our courier service. Telegrams sent before midday are delivered the same day; those sent after midday are delivered the next working day at the latest.
                    The Flash Telegram
                    The quickest method. As soon as our telegraph operators receive your telegram, our courier service makes a special delivery as quickly as possible. It is also possible to send a Flash Telegram and add a gift.

    For international messages, your telegram will be sent by our telegraphists to the country of destination. It is delivered in accordance with the terms and conditions of express delivery in the country concerned.

    1. Re:Nope ... Service still available in Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And the NSA's Project SHAMROCK *still* intercepts every last one of them after all these years.

    2. Re:Nope ... Service still available in Europe by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Still available in Canada as well. Telegrams Canada used to be run by CNCP Tel. AT&T Canada/Unitel Communications. But still offers full telegram and courier services.

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    3. Re:Nope ... Service still available in Europe by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Informative

      Did you read that link? You initiate that 'telegram' by sending an email. Then they deliver it to the destination for you. The primary benefit is the courier service.

      Although it's called telegram, you can be sure belgacom doesn't have a pair of operators to translate your email into morse code so it can be sent to the other side. Whereas in India, they literally have someone sitting on a wire clicking short and long signs.

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    4. Re:Nope ... Service still available in Europe by Zynder · · Score: 4, Informative

      Telegraphs send telegrams. One is a device and one is a group of information. Do try to keep up...

  4. Required Telegram Joke by bradorsomething · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is appears the article is wrong about telegram services ending over all, and they actually won't Stop

  5. Not the last one by houghi · · Score: 2

    In Belgium you can still send a telegram.
    So no idea where this idea comes from that it isn't available anywhere anymore. If Belgium has it and even has International AND Intercontinental prices, there must be at least two other countries that have it.

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  6. MIGRATING by arielCo · · Score: 5, Funny

    TELEGRAPH SERVICE SHUTTING DOWN TELL MOTHER RAJESH MUST LEARN TWITTER FOLLOW ME AT ANAND UNDERSCORE BANDYOPADHYAY STOP

    (Silly filter, telegrams *are* printed in all caps). Lorem ipsum something something dies irae dies illa solvet seclum in favilla.

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    1. Re:MIGRATING by stox · · Score: 2

      The reason they are all CAPS is that they are transmitted using Baudot Code, a 5 level code with no lower case and a very limited set of symbols.

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  7. Re:Probably? by guruevi · · Score: 2

    As it mentions, telegraph seems to be a legal correspondence much like faxes are still considered legal correspondence in the US over e-mail or any other type of electronic document exchange. Try sending an e-mail to your local court house even with a digital certificate, they still by-and-large only accept in-person, fax or registered mail. Some countries in Europe have digital certificates for it's citizens which is considered equal to a signature, not so much in the US.

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  8. Re: Not the last one by ThinkingGuy · · Score: 2

    Add Japan to the list of countries are still a surviving, if somewhat quaint, custom: http://www.ntt-west.co.jp/service_guide/4useful/useful17.html

  9. dots and dashes = ones and zeroes = binary = digit by raymorris · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More than just digital, they are BINARY.

    Analog: composed of continuously variable values
    Digital: composed of discreet values
    Binary: composed of two possible values

    Since traditional telegraphs consist of only dots and dashes, they are digital, and binary. If they were analog, they would include "dot and a half", with infinite valid values between dot and dash.

  10. M * A * S * H by istartedi · · Score: 2

    Hawkeye: Dear Dad, I am not dead. Stop. Hope you are the same. Stop. Thinking of selling my golf clubs? Stop. Spending my insurance money? Stop.

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    For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
  11. Re:digital? by dakohli · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Morse code does not necessarily a binary system. If sent by a machine, I could buy that, but it was designed to be sent by humans using a key. Later a two paddle bug was often used to speed up the code. One paddle sent a stream of dits, and the other keyed the dahs. you could vary the speed of the dits using a dial, but you varied the dahs using the paddle itself. Good operators would shorten the dahs, and use the fastest dits they could manage. So, you might use a dit from 40 wpm, but a dah from 45 wpm. The end result was code that was fairly easy to decode by a human operator, but difficult to decode by a machine. The best machines that I saw had an accuracy of about 85%, which was not good enough.

    Later electronic bugs had two paddles that shaped both the dits and the dahs, but because the operator varied the space in between the elements you ended up with the same issues

    A digital replacement for morse code was the Baudot Code

    .This used machine generated and read code. Early systems used a punch tape as storage medium.

    I was a trained and certified Wireless Station Operator, when I first qualified I could send and receive 20> wpm using a stick (pencil) and hand key

  12. Re:Digital. by nashv · · Score: 2

    It does not matter that the long and short tones vary. For example, the voltage from a transistor on a chip will regularly vary over a few millivolts. The point is that , the variation doesn't encode anything. All the information is encoded in a sequence that has 2 states. Is the voltage greater than 5mV or less than 1 mV. That makes it digital.

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  13. Irony by MDMurphy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The end of the article gave me a chuckle. A guy is threatening to go on a hunger strike to keep the service going, insisting that it's a vital tool for fighting corruption ( presumably gov't corruption ) He sent his demands to the PM and others, via telegram of course. But someone at the telegraph office viewed the telegram as "objectionable" and have chosen not to deliver it.

    So while India might still accept telegrams as legal documents, having a communications medium that requires a man-in-the-middle to function seems to be one that is too easily thwarted by the man in the middle.

    Hopefully the guy on the hunger strike backed up his telegram with an email.

  14. binary is a subset of digital, by definition by raymorris · · Score: 4, Informative

    > binary, by itself, doesn't (I'm pretty sure but may be mistaken) confer "digital" status.

    The defining distinction between digital and analog is that analog can represent a continuous range, whereas digital can only represent specific values. A phonograph, for example, can represent an infinite range of values between silence and full volume. A CD, on the other hand, can only encode certain volumes, not any in between. That's what makes a phonograph analog and a CD digital. Therefore, binary is BY DEFINITION digital - it uses just two values, not an infinite range

    That's good and bad for both. With digital, you get back EXACTLY what you debt, with no degradation. With analog, you can receive a signal even if it can't be received perfectly, because it can receive 0.46 when its not possible to distinguish between 0 and 1.

  15. Re:digital? by bromoseltzer · · Score: 2

    Morse is the orginal digital system, being sent with the fingers.

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  16. Re:NEXT UP !! PAVE SOME ROADS !! by khallow · · Score: 2

    A common misconception shared by a lot of Hindus in India. For example, there was a 1857 rebellion that started because Indian soldiers were required to bite the ends off of bullet cartridges (it was part of the loading process for rifles of the time) coated with animal fat (allegedly both beef and pig, which offends just about optimally).

  17. Re:Probably? by Anarchduke · · Score: 2
    I can hear it now...

    Viagra cheap from the canadian border,
    Fa la la la fa la la la
    Long erection for a dollar
    Fa la la la fa la la la la

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  18. Re:digital? by Nutria · · Score: 2

    I'm pretty certain that I've been wrong all these years and that it is digital

    "On", "Off" and "On Longer" are discrete and thus digital.

    In fact, "digital" doesn't need to only encode 2 values: remember that the word "digital" is the adjective form of "digit", and we have 10 discrete fingers. (Which is why we count in decimal and computers, which have only two discrete values, counts in binary.)

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  19. Re:dots and dashes = ones and zeroes = binary = di by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since traditional telegraphs consist of only dots and dashes, they are digital, and binary.

    Actually no. Silences are meaningful in morse, so it's ternary, not binary.

  20. Re:dots and dashes = ones and zeroes = binary = di by Sique · · Score: 3, Informative

    You even have short and long silences, thus we are talking base 4.

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  21. Re:Probably? by RockDoctor · · Score: 2

    So they do not have an internet cafe down the road, but a telegraph office instead?

    For no small number, there isn't a road to have an internet cafe anywhere "down".

    Have you never lived in the third world?

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