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SCO v. IBM Is Officially Reopened

stoilis writes "Groklaw reports that the SCO vs IBM case is officially reopened: 'The thing that makes predictions a bit murky is that there are some other motions, aside from the summary judgment motions, that were also not officially decided before SCO filed for bankruptcy that could, in SCO's perfect world, reopen certain matters. I believe they would have been denied, if the prior judge had had time to rule on them. Now? I don't know.'"

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  1. Braaaaaaaiiiinnns! by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can't this just die already?

    1. Re:Braaaaaaaiiiinnns! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Funny

      Come on, a Congressman has admitted that Snowden isn't lying. The universe had to do something to restore the cosmic balance, didn't it?

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    2. Re:Braaaaaaaiiiinnns! by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If Bill Gates is now looking for redemption with his foundation . . . this is one disease that he should eradicate.

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    3. Re:Braaaaaaaiiiinnns! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3, Funny

      Can't this just die already?

      What did you want, a vampire teen romance? A Star Wars pre-prequel? Another Superman movie?

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    4. Re:Braaaaaaaiiiinnns! by cold+fjord · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I thought the thinking was that he had helped give this life? Why would he destroy his own creation? After all, he did nothing about Microsoft's monstrosities.

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    5. Re:Braaaaaaaiiiinnns! by Zordak · · Score: 2

      Nuke the entire planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

      You know if SCO rises from the dead one more time I might see this as the best option.

      Not that likely. SCO only has two counts left, and their big claim---that they own UNIX and everything that ever looked like UNIX---is already taken care of by the Novell judgment. I think what they have left is claims for business torts, like tortious interference with contracts or something along those lines. This looks to me like the judge is opening the case back up just to take inventory: is there anything left here to fight about? If the answer is no, he will promptly toss SCO out on its ear and the whole thing will be well and truly dead.

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  2. Re: This reminds me of action movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is going to be the worst sequel ever.

  3. We need to rename this by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Funny

    I officially move that this case be renamed from SCO v. IBM to Jason Voorhees.

  4. I see this as a good thing by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While we are probably tired of hearing about and how long this case took, I would like to see an outcome. The thing is that SCO never actually lost the case and IBM never truly won. SCO was tied up in bankruptcy and the Novell case and could not proceed. IBM isn't objecting; I think they want to destroy any remnants of SCO. Personally I would like to see happen would be the GPL tested in a case so any FUD by SCO is rejected in a ruling. Most likely SCO is likely to lose on summary judgement and the GPL issues never go to trial.

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    1. Re:I see this as a good thing by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Speak for yourself. Years ago when this same case was going on I had a client implement a no GNU policy and we replaced all our Linux systems with Windows and paid the $699 per core SCO licensing fee for Linux.

      The lawyers were all over this. As a result the developers were forbidden to use GNU as it could infringe on someone elses property and it the arguments were like reading the troll posts from Slashdot.

      The more this shit hits the headlines in places like CIOmag or InfoWorld.com the stronger the argument agaisnt' GNU and Linux.

    2. Re:I see this as a good thing by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

      And where is your company today with Linux? This will once and all end things if it goes to trial.

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    3. Re: I see this as a good thing by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In the real world pretty much every major company continued using Linux and most startups, some now household names, got of tge ground thanks to Linux and GPL software.

      My point being that most people have not believed the fud. ..

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    4. Re:I see this as a good thing by icebike · · Score: 5, Interesting

      And where is your company today with Linux? This will once and all end things if it goes to trial.

      That has been claimed before.

      If history is any guide this will NOT end things once and for all. Why would you even suggest such a thing in the absence of any facts indicating this?

      If you follow the money to pay the lawyers, fund discovery, and pay the enormous incidental costs, you will almost surely find that SCO, which has already declared bankruptcy, is getting outside funds, (speculation is from Microsoft), and as long as that money flows there will never be an end to this issue.

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    5. Re:I see this as a good thing by ogdenk · · Score: 2

      Should have installed FreeBSD and told them to get f**ked.

    6. Re:I see this as a good thing by jamstar7 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Remember that the lawyers own what's left of SCO, they have nothing to lose.

      and they want their payday. Since there's nothing left of SCO, they'll have to file nuisance suits from now til the Second Coming of Elvis to get even some of the money they're "owed" via settlements. They've shown they were willing to ride it out to the bitter end.

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    7. Re:I see this as a good thing by phands · · Score: 2

      That's just nonsense. SCO lost ALL their lawsuits. There is NO argument against Linux - it is pervasive everywhere except the (now declining) PC desktop. A jury decided that SCO did not ever own Unix (Novell did, and retained ownership) after SCO appealed previous judgments that also said Novell was the owner. Your lawyers advised your company badly and wrongly. My company at the time also got the letter from SCO: we binned it as the trash that it was. Virtually no-one paid the $699 extortion fee. It's now time for the IBM nazgul to finally squash the SCO zombie out of existence. I reckon some former SCO execs (The former CEO, Darl McBride; the (dis)information mouthpiece, Blake Stowell to name but 2) should face prosecution for all their lies and corporate malfeasance.

    8. Re:I see this as a good thing by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

      Basically the corporate whigs do not care about I.T. they care about risk management and keeping their jobs is the number one priority.

      In a startup environment that is different. It is risk by its nature.

      Unethical about using only MS because they own stock? Ethical as you can get as they own the company and are the customer. My guess is it is probably one of those media companies MS invests in to make .WMV standard. Flash came right in and ruined that.

      Money does talk and shit walk in business, but game theory in economics and finance dictate the shareholder does not always come first as everyone's priority is to keep his job. Buying software with known liabilities because some geeks on a website called Slashdot is a sure way to get shitcanned with no references FAST from clueless phb managers. There was a lady too in all the CIOmag press releases who was a SCO shill too. The PHB and directors read these.

      While we know it is crap sometimes it is better not to take risks if you have a family to feed and just waste company money instead.

  5. Vampires by Alain+Williams · · Score: 4, Funny

    I always thought that they were mythological, I now have to admit that I was wrong; dead things can come back to try to suck your blood!

  6. Oh, and one more thing .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I bet both late Steve Jobs and Peter Falk turning in their graves out of jealousy.

  7. Reminds me of Jarndyce v Jarndyce by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarndyce_v_Jarndyce

    Would be a great topic for another novel for a modern Dickens.

  8. Re:Happy ending? by icebike · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More likely the funding comes from Microsoft, as they are the only entity that benefits by the destruction of all things 'nix.

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  9. So if SCO are back by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hope their creditors they shafted when they filed for bankruptcy last time are first in line to get paid, before the new lawyers. (and the old ones, since they were the cause of it)

  10. PJ, come back! by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 2

    PJ, come back! It's not over yet.

  11. Eat the guppy! by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    Can't IBM just buy the puny shell of SCO, fire everybody, and burn their desks, motivation posters, and Newton's Cradles publicly in a giant bonfire while singing Nah Nah Nah Goodbye?

  12. Re:OK... by Chrisq · · Score: 2

    Who forgot to flush the toilet? damn it!
    The thurd is still floating.

    We have flushed it several times, but this little round turd just keeps bobbing up to the surface