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BitCoin Mining, Other Virtual Activity Taxable Under US Law

chicksdaddy writes "Beware you barons of BitCoin – you World of Warcraft one-percenters: the long arm of the Internal Revenue Service may soon be reaching into your treasure hoard to extract Uncle Sam's fair share of your virtual wealth. A new Government Accountability Office (GAO) report on virtual economies finds that many types of transactions in virtual economies – including Bitcoin mining and virtual transactions that result in real-world profit – are likely taxable under current U.S. law, but that the IRS does a poor job of tracking such business activity and informing buyers and sellers of their duty to pay taxes on virtual earnings. The report, 'Virtual Economies and Currencies: Additional IRS Guidance Could Reduce Tax Compliance Risks' found that the growing use of virtual currencies like BitCoin and virtual game currencies warrants the U.S.'s tax collection agency to mitigate the risks. Those include efforts to educate taxpayers and the publication of basic tax reporting requirements for transactions using virtual currencies, The Security Ledger reports."

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  1. WoW tax by WillgasM · · Score: 4, Funny

    How many coppers is this gonna cost me?

    1. Re:WoW tax by ArcadeMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is the IRS we're talking about. It's going to cost you SILVERS, my friend!

  2. tax on capital gains only by optikos · · Score: 5, Informative

    Keep track of expenses (e.g., equipment, floor space rental, electricity consumption) that serve as the investment for the BitCoin mining. This comes off the bottom-line profit. Otherwise, you would pay 'income' taxes on your 'outflow'.

  3. Is this news? by Typical+Slashdotter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why wouldn't it be taxed? There is no "on a computer" exemption to rules that we pay taxes on profitable activities...

  4. Bitcoin mining is not capital gains by Typical+Slashdotter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    IANAA (I am not an accountant), but capital gains are only when you buy something and then sell it at a higher price. Buying a bunch of computer equipment and making money by selling it would be capital gains. Buying a bunch of computer equipment and making money by selling the bitcoins it mines is just regular income. You can (and should!), however, deduct the cost of the equipment, etc., as business expenses. The distinction is important because capital gains are taxed at a lower rate than regular income.

    1. Re:Bitcoin mining is not capital gains by houstonbofh · · Score: 3, Informative

      It could be both, if you mine and hold the coins...

    2. Re:Bitcoin mining is not capital gains by alexander_686 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Mod parent up. It’s depreciation expense. Depreciation would either reduce your operating income if you sold the bitcoins the same year you mined them or would increase your cost basis of your bitcoin (thus decreasing your capital gains tax) it you held your bitcoins for more than a year.

      Be warned, the IRS makes this stuff complicated fast.

    3. Re:Bitcoin mining is not capital gains by optikos · · Score: 4, Informative
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_gain

      The key words here are: "financial assets" and "intangible assets". Bitcoin mining is both of these.

      from Capital gain's Wikipedia article:

      The gain is the difference between a higher selling price and a lower purchase price.

      The gain is the difference between 1) the selling price of the financial asset after the mathematics (or after WoW achievement) and 2) the purchase price of the intangible asset before the mathematics (or before the WoW achievement).

    4. Re:Bitcoin mining is not capital gains by lgw · · Score: 3, Interesting

      IANAA, but that's not how depreciation works. You spend a lot of capital on X to operate your business - it's a cash cost this year, and you want to deduct it from your taxes this year, but the IRS says "no, even though you spent all that money this year, you must spread out the cost of X over N years for tax purposes, so pay us a lot more this year". Depreciation is rarely a good thing, and it doesn't form a basis for capital gains.

      I don't think gold miners selling the gold they mine treat that as a capital gain in the first place, AFAIK it's treated like any other manufactured product. The depreciation of the mining equipment is an overhead expense that reduces reported profit appropriately. (The cost of energy is often the primary expense in gold mining.)

      Bitcoin "mining" would seem similar, but it's a mistake to assume tax law follows any sort of logic or reason.

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  5. Nobody seems to get this by sunami · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's taxes on transactions involving dollars only. If you buy WoW gold by selling in-game items, there's no expectation of taxation. If you buy WoW gold with dollars, there's a legit reason to tax that transaction.

  6. Re:Uhm... by c0lo · · Score: 4, Funny
    The octane number used for lawyers or other legal professionals. In layman term: a measure of how much you can squeeze a lawyer before detonation.

    Does it make sense now?

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  7. Re:Why it might not be taxed .... by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Take a deep breath.

    They only count as real money when you trade them for real money. Bitcoins are still not money, just an item you can sell like any other thing. If you make a profit selling them, like any other thing, you owe taxes.

    Was that simple enough for you?

  8. In other news.... by sconeu · · Score: 3, Funny

    The IRS has ruled that all Monopoly(r) winnings will be taxed at the full capital gains rate

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