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One Year Since Assange Took Refuge in Ecuadorian Embassy

Daniel_Stuckey writes with an article marking the one year anniversary of Julian Assange seeking asylum in the Ecuadorian Embassy. From the article: "Uninterested in facing U.S. justice, Assange said he's prepared to spend five years living there. If he goes out for a walk, he'll be extradited to Sweden to answer rape accusations —after which he has no promise from Sweden to deny further extradition efforts to America, where a grand jury investigation into WikiLeaks awaits. This also means that London's Metropolitan Police have been devoting their resources to keeping tabs on Assange for a year. Yesterday, a spokesperson explained the updated costs of guarding the embassy over the phone: 'From July 2012 through May 2013, the full cost has been £3.8 million ($5,963,340),' he said. '£700,000 ($1,099,560) of which are additional, or overtime costs.' Julian has a treadmill, a SAD lamp, and a connection to the Internet, through which he's been publishing small leaks and conducting interviews. The indoor lifestyle has taken its toll on Julian, and it led to his contracting a chronic lung condition last fall."

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  1. Re:Can't they get him out by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Informative

    No. The standard embassy deal covers only embassy ground and certain agreed-upon diplomatic staff (ie, if war breaks out, both sides agree to let the ambassadors for the other go home safely). Assange is not diplomatic staff, and thus cannot be transported. Even if he was, good luck getting clearance to fly. Right now the situation is stalemate: Assange cannot leave, and the UK government cannot enter.

  2. Re:Sweden is not, in fact, the US. by walshy007 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Last I checked he was willing to go to sweden for the questioning (no charges have been put forward at all to my knowledge yet) so long as he had a guarantee to not be extradited to the US while there.

    Sweden refused.

    If I were him I'd take that as intent to ship him off after he gets there.

  3. Re:Can't they get him out by Alranor · · Score: 4, Informative

    In order to qualify for diplomatic immunity, you have to present your credentials to the host country and have them accepted.

    I expect the British government would absolutely love for Assange to try that, as he'd have to come out the embassy to do it.

  4. Re:Sweden is not, in fact, the US. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's no real evidence that requires him to be extradited to Sweden. This was all hashed out last year. There's no evidence and noone is pressing charges. There were no charges pending when he left Sweden, long after the alleged incident happened. A prosecuter decided to open a closed case with no new evidence and no victim and demanded Assange show up in person for questioning.

    If he wasn't wanted in the US, there's no reason for Sweden or Great Britain to go to the lengths they've gone to or to spend the money they've spent.

  5. Re:Sweden is not, in fact, the US. by Squapper · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sweden CANNOT guarantee that there will be no extradiction, as it would mean overriding the whole legal system in a way that a non-corrupt country shouldnt.

  6. Re:Sweden is not, in fact, the US. by quenda · · Score: 4, Informative

    He says that if he's sent to Sweden, Sweden will extradite him to the U.S.. There's no actual evidence for that, and no real reason to believe it.

    Sweden has handed over suspects to the CIA for torture before.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Agiza_and_Muhammad_al-Zery

  7. Sweden CAN guarantee that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Extradition has to be OK'd by the foreign minister (in the case of foreign nationals in the country). And they have questioned putative murderers by going there and asking them questions. Yet in this case, they say they can't ask him questions unless they have him on their soverein ground.

    Why the sudden inability?

    THAT is why his worries are NOT paranoia: they are blatantly out to get him, by hook or by crook.

  8. Re:This is stupid by Microlith · · Score: 4, Informative

    At least now he has contact with the outside world. In a US prison he'd most certainly be held in isolation and maybe, just maybe, allowed to see his lawyer.

  9. Re:rat scurry by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, it is rape. Under Swedish law and UK law.

    From the ruling on the 2nd November 2011:

    The EAW sets out four offences:
      “1. Unlawful coercion - On 13-14 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [AA] in
    Stockholm, Assange, by using violence, forced the injured party to endure his restricting
    her freedom of movement. The violence consisted in a firm hold of the injured party’s
    arms and a forceful spreading of her legs whilst lying on top of her and with his body
    weight preventing her from moving or shifting.

    2.Sexual molestation - On 13-14 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [AA] in
    Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested the injured party by acting in a manner
    designed to violate her sexual integrity. Assange, who was aware that it was the
    expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a
    condom be used, consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her without her
    knowledge.

    3.Sexual molestation - On 18 August 2010 or on any of the days before or after that
    date, in the home of the injured party [AA] in Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested
    the injured party by acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity i.e. lying
    next to her and pressing his naked, erect penis to her body.

    4.Rape - On 17 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [SW] in Enköping,
    Assange deliberately consummated sexual intercourse with her by improperly exploiting
    that she, due to sleep, was in a helpless state.
    It is an aggravating circumstance that Assange, who was aware that it was the
    expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a
    condom be used, still consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her. The
    sexual act was designed to violate the injured party’s sexual integrity.”

    Note the fourth offence Assange is sought for under the EAW.

    Now, how does the court handle that?

    Again, in the 2nd November 2011 court ruling:

    The Court rejected Mr Assange’s contention that under the law of England and Wales consent to
    sexual intercourse on condition a condom was used was remained consent to sexual intercourse even
    if a condom was not used or removed. (paras 86-91)

    The Court considered the issue of Offence 4 and ruled that the conduct described in the EAW was
    fairly and accurately reported. The President of the Queen's Bench Division concluded:

    "It is quite clear that the gravamen of the offence described is that Mr Assange had sexual intercourse
    with her without a condom and that she had only been prepared to consent to sexual intercourse with
    a condom. The description of the conduct makes clear that he consummated sexual intercourse when
    she was asleep and that she had insisted upon him wearing a condom. ...... it is difficult to see how a
    person could reasonably have believed in consent if the complaint alleges a state of sleep or half
    sleep, and secondly it avers that consent would not have been given without a condom. There is
    nothing in the statement from which it could be inferred that he reasonably expected that she would
    have consented to sex without a condom." (para 124)

    The court went on to say:

    "It is clear that the allegation is that he had sexual intercourse with her when she was not in a position
    to consent and so he could not have had any reasonable belief that she did." (para 126)

    The Court ruled that Mr Assange's objections raised in relation to Offence 4 fail.

    The British Court agreed that it was indeed a valid offence of rape under the definitions given.

    http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/assange-summary.pdf

  10. Re:Can't they get him out by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Informative

    It might also harm your claim that Assange does not fall under the definition of a "refugee" under those very protocols that you mention.

    Oh, and also, neither of those conventions or protocols require a country to ignore its own law with regard to actionable arrest warrants unrelated to refugee status - so even if he did fall under the definition, there is still nothing there which requires Britain to grant him passage out of the Ecuadorian embassy...

  11. Fugitive [Re:Sweden is not, in fact, the US.] by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sweden refused to have the workings of their legal system dictated to them by a fugitive? I can't thing of many countries where that would wash.

    "Wanted for questioning" and "fugitive" are not the same thing.

    True. He is both wanted for questioning and a fugitive.

    Further, what he's "wanted for questioning" about isn't a crime in the United Kingdom

    Actually, it is. More particularly, though, he agreed to present himself to British Justice system on request-- that was a condition of his bail-- and, instead, he skipped out. So now he is a fugitive from justice in both Britain and Sweden.

    That Sweden won't guarantee him safe passage (i.e. "We won't extradite you to the USA") you can surmise that extradition to the United States is the sole purpose of getting him to Sweden in the first place.

    You can assume no such thing. In general, legal systems don't do negotiations with people wanted for questioning. Assange has come up with a continuously changing list of excuses why he doesn't want to go to Sweden to answer questions about rape charges, and the excuses evolve to fit whatever he seems to think will best please the audience. Since he could end up facing rape charges, one can see why he might want to not visit the police in Sweden. Possibly he should go to Switzerland, where he could join Roman Polanski, also fugitive from rape charges.

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    http://www.geoffreylandis.com
  12. Re:seems like a waste of money by Runaway1956 · · Score: 4, Informative

    How can he be accused of rape, exactly, when both women have been quoted in interviews, stating that they were NOT raped?

    "Oh, no officer, he didn't rape me."

    "Your honor, I'm asking that you sign a warrant of arrest for rape, because the witness states that she has not been raped."

    --
    "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
  13. Re:seems like a waste of money by Shinobi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, in this case, it is justified to berate the women.

    Anna Ardin made boasts about having sex with Julian on Twitter, tweets that were later deleted.

    Sofia Wilen sent SMS's to a friend stating that she was half asleep when one sex act occured.

    In statements to prosecutors, Anna Ardin gave in total 5 different versions of events. Sofia Wilen gave in total 3 different versions, one of them being that she was fully asleep, and was awakened by Assange having sex with her. The original prosecutor dropped the case, because she could establish no credibility to the claims made by the women. Then Marianne Ny, a well-known ultra-feminist manhater, who has a track record of not only prosecuting men just for being men, but also for destroying evidence that proves their innocence, and, when higher courts clear their names, she insists that they have not been cleared, in media campaigns.

    The defense laywer for both women was a well-known politically motivated person with previous shady dealings with courts and prosecutors(Famous for the Quick case mishandling for example), namely Claes BorgstrÃm. He's also a close personal friend of Marianne Ny. Anna Ardin, BorgstrÃm and Marianne Ny are all activist members of the same politcal party, a party known for extra-legal maneuverings.

    Here's the kicker: The last statement by both women, made when Marianne Ny had taken over, suddenly had the events match exactly.... From previously being totally incoherent and unsubstantiated due to evidence to the contrary, to coordinated and coherent, with important evidence to the contrary suddenly not taken into account.

    One of the women, Sofia Wilen, refused to sign her statement in the end, and later on said she felt railroaded into making a particular statement.

    A rather famous old guard swedish feminist, of the old and respectable "Equality means equal rights, but also equal responsibilities" philosophy, who also happens to be a journalist, has looked through the case, including all the testimonies, and she's highlighted a lot of inconsistencies. A former High Court judge, also a woman, classes it as a "case with questionable validity, driven by political demand".

    Marianne Ny in march retreated from being the actual prosecutor in the case, but she will still be the leader of the group handling the case.