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Nook Failure, Lack of Foot Traffic Could Spell Doom For Barnes & Noble

tripleevenfall sends in a story at Yahoo Finance forecasting the end of Barnes & Noble. Quoting: "The last nationwide book retailer may be writing its final chapter. Barnes & Noble's latest quarterly results show a 7.4% drop in revenues and a $122 million loss for the fourth-quarter of its fiscal year. B&N's disastrous focus on making Nook e-Readers is weighing heavily on the chain's operations. A 17% drop in Nook revenues and stunning $475 million loss for the device division in 2013 are hobbling the company's ability to keep its stores afloat. B&N appears to be cannibalizing itself with branded tablets and cross-platform e-reader applications, which render the stores increasingly irrelevant."

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  1. I go into the bookstore by alen · · Score: 5, Funny

    On my way to the Starbucks in the back

    1. Re:I go into the bookstore by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 5, Informative

      On my way to the Starbucks in the back

      It's not a Starbucks. It's the Barnes & Noble Cafe featuring Starbucks coffee.

      And next time, I'm probably going to stop at the front and pick up one of those Nook HD+ 9" tablets they now have on fire sale for $150 while they still have them. It now has Google Play and all the apps available there without rooting it, and I can't see why it won't still be a decent tablet even if B&N goes completely under.

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    2. Re:I go into the bookstore by faedle · · Score: 2

      Actually, there are a few Barnes and Noble stores with full Starbucks locations. Tanasbourne, Oregon is one such example.

    3. Re:I go into the bookstore by TWX · · Score: 2

      It would probably help if they'd honor their web prices in their stores.

      I looked up the new David Weber title last night, and it was about $18 on the website, $25 in the stores, and they don't honor the web price in the store, and after shipping it basically costs the same. Found this out calling the store.

      I didn't bother to buy it. I'll wait for a copy to show up at a used bookstore. I only have about a dozen of those to choose from around here.

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    4. Re:I go into the bookstore by lymond01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Okay, this was marked "Funny" but why go to a bookstore when you can browse, borrow, and read samples of books from anywhere? Why go to a music store when I can download from anywhere?

      As long as the functionality of the bookstore is no greater than the functionality of my ebook reader, what is the draw? I can get reviews, recommendations, top 100 lists by genre, new releases, etc all in the palm of my hand, none of which I can get at the bookstore unless I bring my internet device.

      So sure...want me to show up at your warehouse-sized bookstore? Give me some good live music (a la the Eolian). Give me cake. Give me coffee. Hell, give me a beer or glass of wine. Give me tables with cabled iPads so I can surf book selections whilst drinking my beer and listening to a lutist then go grab them off your shelf when I go. Or when I stay.

      Save money and make your stores smaller. Maybe sell only certain genres, or hardcovers, or softcovers (because who buys hardcovers anymore?). But keep the food, keep the music, keep the kiosk tables, keep freaking quiz night, just give me a reason to walk in your store, because while I love me a good bookstore, I love me the beach/forest/cafe/couch/bed more.

    5. Re: I go into the bookstore by Beavertank · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your comment is fantastically hilarious with the "Dictionary of Numbers" plugin active. The funny part reads:

      "And my 2 year old is like 38 pounds [ Medium-sized dog]"

      ...although maybe it's only funny to me because I'm sleep deprived.

    6. Re:I go into the bookstore by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Get a MicroSD card and install Cyanogenmod on it. The Nook can dual-boot to the uSD card without any sort of modding or rooting. I do it and switch between the B&N version of Android and Cyanogenmod depending on what I want to do.

      **This is with a Nook Color. I don't know if the newer tablets can do it.

    7. Re:I go into the bookstore by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why go to the movies when you can watch it online? Why go to theater or a sports arena when you can see it on TV? Why go sightseeing when you can use Google Street View?

      Some things are just better in person. Personally, I find a book store much easier to browse a category of books when I'm not looking for something very specific. I also find paper books much easier to flip through randomly to get a sense of the structure and content of the book than the electronic counterpart.

      I agree with what you say about adding value to it... make book stores more than just a store.

    8. Re:I go into the bookstore by jp10558 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I love Amazon, and I've used e-book readers since 2000. They're great if I know exactly what book I want to read, or if I know I want to read the next book from Author X. Amazon is even sometimes useful in their recommendations of what people read or looked at that were similar to the book I'm currently looking at.

      What all the web based tools fall down for me is browsing. I can't look at a shelf of Thrillers, Mysteries, or Fantasy. I won't find new types of books via Amazon's recommendations, just an ever narrowing slice of books more and more similar to the ones I've already bought.

      Maybe I'm old fashioned somehow, but I don't necessarily enjoy the bubble effect the web has. When I want a new book I find interesting, I can browse a bookstore and likely come out with one in 15 minutes. With Amazon, I've spent weeks trying to find a "good book" to read that isn't a sequel, or extremely similar to one I've just read.

      I also find that while I'll pick up a book that may be enjoyable from a shelf based on cover art, blurb on the back etc, Amazon almost has too much information - do I really want a book that only got 3 stars? Do I read the reviews, which often take any reason to read the book away? Is it all scammed by companies? Too much work, and I rarely get a book.

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    9. Re:I go into the bookstore by IDtheTarget · · Score: 2

      I can't install third-party apps on it though. (Kindle Store, Humble Bundle games, etc.) without modding it though. Which is easy though; maybe 30 minutes from start to finish, if you don't have the files already.

      You no longer have to mod it. They now come with Google Play. If you have an un-modded nook, the last two updates included Google Play, so all you have to do is update the tablet. I've put all kinds of apps on my HD and HD+.

    10. Re:I go into the bookstore by IDtheTarget · · Score: 2

      Get a MicroSD card and install Cyanogenmod on it. The Nook can dual-boot to the uSD card without any sort of modding or rooting. I do it and switch between the B&N version of Android and Cyanogenmod depending on what I want to do.

      **This is with a Nook Color. I don't know if the newer tablets can do it.

      They can, though I had booting problems with both a 64GB SanDisk and a 32GB SanDisk on my HD+. When the Nooks started including Google Play in the last couple of updates, I just went to the stock Nook system, updated, and started putting in my apps from the play store.

  2. Are people reading fewer paper books? by Nimey · · Score: 2

    I just got done with a garage sale and almost none of my (cheaply priced!) books sold, lots fewer than when I had a garage sale about five years ago.

    I'd suppose more people who actually read are transitioning to e-readers. This might also account in general for why there are fewer visitors to B&N stores.

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    1. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Didn't you get the memo?

      http://i.imgur.com/az9FCjh.jpg

    2. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by geek · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes people are reading paper books a LOT less. Every person I know has a Kindle or an iPad or like me and my wife, Nexus 7's. Paper books are great, don't get me wrong but when my mother in law even has an iPad for reading you know the death of paper books is on the horizon.

      I was a bitter clinger to paper books. I graduated with an English degree and love literature. Too me paper books were sacred. Now I can't stand the thought of dealing with a paper book, storing it, watching it yellow on my shelf or having to fight with the binding while trying to read and holding the cover back. My Nexus 7 is the perfect experience. I can get books from multiple retailers on a single device while sitting in bed. I have Google Books, Kindle, Nook, Kobo and many others on my device and I shop around for prices.

      Couple this with Calibre and I can manage my library any way I see fit, convert between formats and store them locally or in the cloud as I see fit.

    3. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Didn't you get the memo?

      http://i.imgur.com/az9FCjh.jpg

      Funny and not goatse.

    4. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by godrik · · Score: 2

      There are multiple effects.
      First I believe people are reading less books at all.
      Then all the classics that are often mandatory for school education are commonly found for free (and legally) on the internet. That certainly hurts book stores significantly.
      Also the e-book effect bring less people in store. That probably decrease the amount of sales in "crap magazines" or other books that you only buy because you see it.
      Amazon is killing stores by making book delivery the day after for free. It happened to me that I bought a book online at 2pm while being at the pool and got in front of my door at 10am the day after.

      I'll feel nostalgic about book store, but I perfectly understand that they need to go away as they are highly inefficient compared to more modern techniques like buying book online or buying e-books.

    5. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 2

      Why would you use an ipad for reading books? Seems like an invitation to eyestrain to me.

    6. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It doesn't help that most of the store is devoted to all kinds of crap like toys, cards, god books, and astrology.
      How many interpretations of the bible can a person buy?
      Meanwhile the science fiction section has to share shelf space with fantasy and teen romance.
      The textbook section is almost entirely business self help books and X for dummies.
      I think they had 3 or 4 books on security related software development and half an aisle on developing for IOS.
      I understand that iphone is hot right now, and god is great, but there are limits to how many of the same book you need in a store.

    7. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 4, Funny

      It doesn't help that most of the store is devoted to all kinds of crap like toys, cards, god books, and astrology.

      Some of the God books are good, such as "Where God Went Wrong," "Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes," "Who Is This God Person, Anyway?," and "Well, That Just About Wraps It Up For God."

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    8. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 3, Funny

      They eyestrain worry is overstated.

      The real problem with an iPad for books, compared to a Kindle or to a paperback novel, is that the iPad hurts a lot more when you doze off reading in bed and drop it on face.

    9. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I graduated with an English degree and love literature. Too me paper books were sacred.

      You can't make this stuff up, folks.

    10. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They eyestrain worry is overstated.

      No. Wrong. Ebooks didn't get started because of ipads, the ipad screen is the same as a laptop screen. If it were that easy to read books on a laptop screen nobody would have needed to invent ereaders. Whether or not ipad fans like it, the simple reality is that you can't read books or even lengthy texts as easily from a luminescent monitor as from an e-ink display. Mod me down all you like, claim otherwise based on anecdote, but you didn't have people selling their book collections when laptops became common. End of story.

    11. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Funny

      " I graduated with an English degree and love literature. Too me paper books were sacred."

      That is just two, er .. ah .. to ... I mean too funny!

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    12. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you think the reason might actually be that a 7" tablet in your hand is a lot easier to manage than a laptop? Nah. You're right. That makes way too much sense.

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    13. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Nimey · · Score: 4, Informative

      He's actually a pretty terrible author who's been getting by on name recognition and PR. Have you actually read the Old Testament? Utter repetitive dreck and the main character is a bloodthirsty sociopathic asshole who'll kill people for burning the wrong incense.

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    14. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Moofie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "the simple reality is that you can't read books or even lengthy texts as easily from a luminescent monitor as from an e-ink display."

      Simply not true. I can, and do, and your wishing won't stop me.

      "but you didn't have people selling their book collections when laptops became common"

      That's a form factor thing, not a backlit screen thing.

      eink/epaper is great. I happen to prefer the flexibility of an LCD. Neither preference should get you all hot n' bothered, because it's just that: A preference. For /my/ use case, an LCD is superior. For /your/ use case, do whatever the hell you want. It'll be OK.

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    15. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by pregister · · Score: 2

      So, we have the antagonist...

    16. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by tibit · · Score: 2

      As time goes, I get tired of keeping the paperback bindings open. Kinda inconvenient when you want to read and scratch your wife's back. She loves when I read. She gets scratched for hours :)

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    17. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by mjwx · · Score: 2

      I just got done with a garage sale and almost none of my (cheaply priced!) books sold, lots fewer than when I had a garage sale about five years ago.

      I'd suppose more people who actually read are transitioning to e-readers. This might also account in general for why there are fewer visitors to B&N stores.

      I'm buying more books than I did 5 years ago.

      It's not lack of demand or foot traffic that's killing B&N, it's the fact I can go to thebookdepository.com (Amazon charges stupid amounts of shipping to Oz, and yes, I know TBD is owned by Amazon now... Shipping is still cheaper) search for exactly the book I want and buy it for less. In a physical book store, I have to pray they have it in stock, find it myself (because some apathetic staffer put half the Iain M Banks novels under M and the other half under B) wait in line and then pay twice as much for it.

      B&N have simply priced themselves out of the market.

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    18. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by wbr1 · · Score: 2

      They eyestrain worry is overstated.

      The real problem with an iPad for books, compared to a Kindle or to a paperback novel, is that the iPad hurts a lot more when you doze off reading in bed and drop it on face.

      Maybe the iPad should be iPadded.

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  3. LOL Ballmer by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft just invested $1 billion into B&N.

    How much longer are the shareholders going to let monkey boy run things? A lot longer I hope ;)

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    1. Re:LOL Ballmer by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, I was going to comment that Microsoft's keen business sense appears to be functioning pretty consistently these past several years.

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    2. Re:LOL Ballmer by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yep, the deal with MS was an obvious sign that B&N's end was nearing. Having MS buy into something is a death knell these days.

  4. Two words by benjfowler · · Score: 3, Interesting

    'Amazon' and 'antitrust'.

    Give it time. They're so overwhelmingly dominant in online retail, that people will be calling them the Standard Oil of the 21st century, if they aren't already.

    1. Re: Two words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'd argue "book publishers" charging as much for ebooks as much as printed, bound and delivered books.
      My response to draconian pricing/behavior from MAFIAA was to stop buying. The same is happening with ebooks.

    2. Re:Two words by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      'Amazon' and 'antitrust'.

      It is not illegal to dominate a sector, nor is it even illegal to have a monopoly. It is only illegal to use your dominant position to engage in anti-competitive practices. Standard Oil was notorious for this. Microsoft also used their OS dominance to muscle in and crush competitors in office applications and browsers. I haven't see Amazon doing anything like that. Their competitors are just a click away.

    3. Re:Two words by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 4, Funny

      'Amazon' and 'antitrust'.

      It is not illegal to dominate a sector, nor is it even illegal to have a monopoly. It is only illegal to use your dominant position to engage in anti-competitive practices. Standard Oil was notorious for this. Microsoft also used their OS dominance to muscle in and crush competitors in office applications and browsers. I haven't see Amazon doing anything like that. Their competitors are just a click away.

      Actually, thanks to Amazon's "one-click" patent, competitors are now forced to be no less than two clicks away or they're going to get a cease-and-desist from Amazon.

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    4. Re:Two words by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You are talking about Standard Oil as if you are reciting a well learned poem. Standard Oil became as big as it did from 1969 to 1911 by finding ways to bring prices down for the end consumer from about 70 cents to about 5 cents in that time period. In that same time period, Rockefeller became one of the richest people in history, much wealthier then the pygmies of billionaires that exist today. The company was growing and increasing its business at a staggering pace and it was innovating to achieve that. Anything, from buying up forests to build their own barrels (and lowering new empty barrel costs by over 80%), to figuring out how to load and unload their products faster on the railroads, to finding ways to be more efficient in railroad delivery, to ensure that the train cars will not be riding empty and thus lowering costs of operating trains and getting discounts because of that, to building up more and more productive capacity.

      Saying that a company was a monopoly, when in fact it was broken apart because people just could not compete with its efficiencies to the point that the prices for oil products have NEVER gone down since the moment Standard Oil was broken up.... who exactly got the profits of breaking up that efficient economy of scale but the people that wanted a piece of the pie at the EXPENSE of the consumer and got the politicians to provide it to them.

      This was a disgrace then and it is a disgrace now, government is not authorised to distort the markets like that.

  5. At least they tried by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The summary seems to attack B&N for trying to adapt to changing times rather than sticking their head in the sand. Even if it was ultimately futile, I don't think it was boneheaded.

    1. Re:At least they tried by TJamieson · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not only that, the whole article is trollish. They're not "circling the drain" or anything like that; rather they saw that Nook sales sucked, ate up their profits from their standard business, and decided to kill the Nook line. Also known as "adapting to market conditions" - exactly what they should do!

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  6. Remember when... by ggraham412 · · Score: 2

    Remember when the folks at B&N were hailed as visionary geniuses compared to the doofuses at Borders because B&N had an eReader?

    1. Re:Remember when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Remember when the folks at B&N were hailed as visionary geniuses compared to the doofuses at Borders because B&N had an eReader?

      No.

      If Barnes and Noble want to stay in business, they need to stop selling their books at list price. They don't need to have Amazon's discounts, but how about 20% across the board?

      When I can buy a $49 O'Reilly book on Amazon for $22, there's little incentive to buy from B&N. On the other hand, a 20% discount would be enough to buy in the store - that way I get instantly and in good condition. Anyone else notice that Amazon has cheapened their shipping packaging? No more strink wrapping the book with a cardboard sheet to keep the book from bouncing around the box. And many times, the books are just thrown in a bubble envelope and come with their asses kicked.

    2. Re:Remember when... by DuckDodgers · · Score: 2

      I have a relative that used to work in their warehouse. To Amazon's credit, the wages are much better than minimum wage. On the other hand, the employees are under absurd pressure to work quickly and they get fired at the drop of a hat for failing to meet production quotas or laid off as soon as demand in their region drops. (My relative was laid off, re-hired, and laid off again in a two month period.)

  7. E-book monopoly by SirGarlon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Even on Slashdot, not enough people seem to be concerned about Amazon getting a monopoly on e-books.

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    1. Re:E-book monopoly by 0123456 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Even on Slashdot, not enough people seem to be concerned about Amazon getting a monopoly on e-books.

      Probably because Amazon don't have one. They own far less of the e-book market now than they did a couple of years ago, and B&N's share has been falling in that time.

      I sell e-books through various stores, and Apple and Kobo account for about as many sales as Amazon. B&N sells pretty much none.

  8. they can save the nook by bitt3n · · Score: 4, Funny

    turn it into a pr0n focused device and rebrand it as "the nookie"

  9. I thought it was a toy store by T-Bone-T · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The last time I walked into one of their stores it seemed more like a toy store. Most of it was toys, puzzles, and games. It wasn't what I was expecting at all.

    1. Re:I thought it was a toy store by 0123456 · · Score: 2

      Late last year I saw a few complaints online along the lines of 'I went to B&N before Christmas to buy books as presents, but they don't seem to sell them any more.'

      Abandoning your core market in the hope of picking up a new one is rarely a good business plan.

    2. Re:I thought it was a toy store by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How would the LOTR fans feel if you told them that sorry, book one was not available at that location, but book two and three were in stock?

      To be fair, that may not be B&N's fault. If you read author blogs on the web, you'll find a number saying 'my book series died because by the time I finished book 4 the publisher had let book 1 go out of print and wouldn't reprint it, so sales were dismal. Who's going to start reading a series where the first book is unavailable?'

      Publishing and book selling seems to be a completely brain-dead industry.

    3. Re:I thought it was a toy store by Fencepost · · Score: 2

      Re: "Book 1 is out of print," this is where Baen's approach is (was?) nice. Historically, Baen and the authors would put first books into the library somewhere around the third or fourth book in a series; interestingly this apparently also tended to improve sales of the paperback versions of books so released. Some of this may have changed once they came to their agreement with Amazon to have books available directly for the Kindle, but even there they can price the first book or two way down as preparation for later books in a series.

      Regarding the B&N stores as feeling like toy shops, they've definitely added a variety of games in particular and the books are definitely slanted to "browsable" items - things that you want to look through before purchasing, eye-catching books, etc. The days of going to a bricks & mortar store looking for a book published a few years back (or the first few books of a series) are gone - many people will simply order the items they expect to be less likely to be in stock. In some ways B&N is trying to reinvent itself not just as a bookstore but as a social spot for people who read. I haven't seen one doing a "game night" in the Cafe yet, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it at some point. Come in, try Catan (and variants), then buy them and take them home to play with your family!

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  11. Barnes & Noble closed the profitable store her by david.emery · · Score: 4, Interesting

    (Reston VA), In part due to contract dispute with the mall owner. But they could have moved into a nice Borders store location about 5 miles away in Sterling VA. Instead, they pointed me to their store in Tyson's Corner, which costs me $5 in tolls and puts me in the middle of a traffic mess. I felt sorry for the Reston store employees and the managers who did a good job with our local store, handing one my B&N Readers Card. I said, "Send this to Corporate. Tell them to look up how much I've spent -in this store- over the last 15 years. Tell them that 95% of that business is going to Amazon, because I will not drive to Tysons and B&N offers me no alternative."

    I really miss browsing in a paper bookstore, Amazon does not offer the same experience (their suggestions aren't as useful for me as they think they are...) The loss of B&N will be significant for consumers, I think. But I'm mostly through the 5 stages of mourning for them.

  12. It's not JUST the Nook by sehlat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    B&N has been somewhat schizophrenic about eBooks from the beginning, trying desperately to keep up with Amazon on one hand and yet not cannibalize their precious treeware stores. As a result, they've managed to fail at both goals.

    Worse yet, they managed to buy, and then ignore, everything Fictionwise could have taught them about marketing eBooks and doing it right. I was a loyal (and VERY happy) Fictionwise customer for a decade. FW did three things that were absolutely priceless in marketing eBooks to me.

    1. FW let you request email notifications when a new book by a particular author you were interested in was available. Naturally, as soon as I got such a notification...

    B&N is still doing the old "These are the books WE want to sell you." routine with "push" emails and "new now" notices for books I couldn't care less about.

    2. FW (and Books on Board) had a shopping cart for eBooks. Fictionwise had both "buy all of these at once" and "download them all in a ZIP file." My record buy was something like 25 books in one day when one of my favorite authors had all of his stuff released (finally) to eBook format. Fewer obstacles to purchase == more purchases. You'd think an experienced retailer would figure that out.

    B&N: "Click once for each book" crud that both Amazon and B&N impose on readers. The day Paulo Coelho's books were put on sale at $1/each, I had to click "buy" and "confirm" eleven times, and when it came time to balance my credit card account... (cue loud curses)

    3. If you went to an author's page at FW (e.g. Poul Anderson), you got a "show me only books by this author I don't own" and "buy everything that's showing" buttons. See my note about "fewer obstacles" above.

    B&N: MISSING IN ACTION

    4. FW frequently offered the ability to buy eBooks at listed price and get an equal amount in store credit. Result: I frequently took advantage of the offer, got best-sellers at full list, and then used the credits to buy more eBooks. From my standpoint, I got the best-sellers for free, and then used the credits to "buy out" other authors I wanted everything they did.

    B&N: MISSING IN ACTION

    It is a shame that B&N bought the major ebook retailer who knew how to do it right and then ignored everything they had done in order to cripple their eBook store as a doomed effort to force people to walk into their bricks-and-mortar.

    Think of it as evolution in action.

  13. rise of the digital public library by bzipitidoo · · Score: 2

    Bookstores are dead, and I include in that Amazon's book business. I used to shop regularly at Walden's, B. Dalton's, and all them, pop in once every 2 or 3 weeks. Now I hardly ever visit. These days, I'd rather participate in a discussion such as these on Slashdot, than passively read a book.

    When I do want to read a book, I much prefer to get it through a public library, rather than participate any further in this overly commercialized private bookstore and publishing business. Our public libraries should go digital, and I see the private bookstore as one of the obstacles to that. The digital public library would save us a great deal of money and give us far, far more access to published works than we now enjoy, but these scumbags in the private book sales industry have done all they could to delay and derail it. That being the case, the death of the private bookstore is reason to celebrate.

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  14. Nook Failure = Limited tablet market by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's not so much that reading habits are shifting from paper to digital as it is the limited tablet computer market. Apple iPad has a strong foothold in the tablet market. Few people want another tablet to carry around not to mention one that is focused on eReading and not much else.

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  15. bad assumptions, good intentions by intermodal · · Score: 2

    There seems to be a preoccupation in the article description with the idea of having a national bookseller. I'm not sure we actually need one. Personally, I get pretty much all my books either online or from local used bookstores. Even online, I lean towards the used market unless the new copies are (after shipping on the used, since new is usually free shipping) about the same price or less.

    There's a kind of irony to the fact that the book superstores are all losing the fight while the local used shops are pretty much always hubs of activity at the times I visit them. Have publishers retail-priced themselves out of the brick and mortar world, creating a culture where the new-book-buyers go online where volume makes discounting possible, and the used buyers comfortably go either way? It certainly seems that way.

    Nook or no Nook, Barnes & Noble would have been fools to ignore the eBook concept. However, I think they may be making a mistake to pursue the devices any further. It's time to go the razor route. Give the handles away, make your money on the blades. The great thing is, once you've created the "handle", the cost of delivering it to tablets, phones, and computers you didn't have to market or sell is negligible.

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  16. Re:Barnes & Noble closed the profitable store by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 2

    Ditto. I find it particularly galling that Manassas still has a B&N but that the Reston area, with higher incomes & education, has none.

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  17. Re:I love the Nook by Nemyst · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's the problem, I think. B&N stupidly is restricting itself to the US, when there's millions (heck, billions) of people outside of that one bloody country. Instead of buying a Nook, I got a Kobo Glo, and that's one sale lost for B&N. Amazon sells the Kindle in more countries and it's always selling like hotcakes, but they're very slow at it. There's a huge market outside of the US, but many American companies seem not to understand that.

  18. Re:E-media is not to blame by idontgno · · Score: 2

    No reads anymore. /. is no different.

    tl;dr

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  19. Re:A single tear was shed... by aheath · · Score: 2

    I switched from a Nook to a Kobo to support my local independent bookstore. The bookstore receives a cut of every book that I buy from Kobo.

  20. In rememberance of the Antiquarium by HeckRuler · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You all know there's a used bookstore in your town. Go give them some business.

    I grew up in Omaha. Downtown there was a used bookstore with more character than was probably healthy. It had more books then it knew what to to do with, a healthy set of extraneous stairs, an honor system for coffee, and a set of couches in front with a constant crowd. I think the regulars manned the register when the workers were busy.

    But it didn't make too much money and they couldn't make rent. They tried selling records in the basement and some sort of art gallary on the upper levels, but that didn't pan out. So it closed up. And Omaha lost something important that day.

    Now, apparently, a small town about 20 minutes gained something eventually, because the owner bought a building, moved his books there, and is still doing business. I'll have to find out if it has the same magic.

    But anyway, just a reminder to support your local church of the literate.

  21. Re:WARNING!!! GOATSE!!! by the+simurgh · · Score: 2

    all i get is an eagle shredding a book with a vulgar phrase. and the reason now one buys books is why should we pay 20 to thirty bucks for a physical copy when they charge way less than that for digital or for the same physical copy on amazon. my problem with barnes and nobel is if i have to buy a book for 45 from barnes and nobel and 27 on amazon since i already have to pay taxes on amazon purchases why not buy from amazon. you want people to buy your books instore? then price match amazon.

  22. Re:Clearly you don't have kids. by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

    No, that's still a crappy design. I get that the thing is supposed to be collapsable, but things that can be folded up like that are supposed to be designed so that they fold up only when you want them too, such as by flipping a lever. When they're erected, they're supposed to stay that way, especially if they have people inside them! If a stroller is supposed to be for carting kids around, it shouldn't collapse as soon as a little upward force is placed on it; it should stay that way, even if you pick it up with the kid inside, until you activate some kind of release mechanism to make it fold up.

  23. Re:E-media is not to blame by pregister · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ya think it might have been a joke? The poster decrying how nobody reads and the commenter giving a tl;dr? Maybe? Ya think?

  24. E-books and a defunct retailer? by bcreane · · Score: 2

    Anyone care to speculate on what happens to all the e-books that B&N has sold if/when they go under? I know I don't "own" the books, rather I purchased some sort of licensing agreement which lets me view the books until ... when?

    This is a huge and not often discussed down-side to e-books. Our first nook died a few weeks ago, I'll probably avoid purchasing another one for just this reason.