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Nook Failure, Lack of Foot Traffic Could Spell Doom For Barnes & Noble

tripleevenfall sends in a story at Yahoo Finance forecasting the end of Barnes & Noble. Quoting: "The last nationwide book retailer may be writing its final chapter. Barnes & Noble's latest quarterly results show a 7.4% drop in revenues and a $122 million loss for the fourth-quarter of its fiscal year. B&N's disastrous focus on making Nook e-Readers is weighing heavily on the chain's operations. A 17% drop in Nook revenues and stunning $475 million loss for the device division in 2013 are hobbling the company's ability to keep its stores afloat. B&N appears to be cannibalizing itself with branded tablets and cross-platform e-reader applications, which render the stores increasingly irrelevant."

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  1. I go into the bookstore by alen · · Score: 5, Funny

    On my way to the Starbucks in the back

    1. Re:I go into the bookstore by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 5, Informative

      On my way to the Starbucks in the back

      It's not a Starbucks. It's the Barnes & Noble Cafe featuring Starbucks coffee.

      And next time, I'm probably going to stop at the front and pick up one of those Nook HD+ 9" tablets they now have on fire sale for $150 while they still have them. It now has Google Play and all the apps available there without rooting it, and I can't see why it won't still be a decent tablet even if B&N goes completely under.

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    2. Re:I go into the bookstore by faedle · · Score: 2

      Actually, there are a few Barnes and Noble stores with full Starbucks locations. Tanasbourne, Oregon is one such example.

    3. Re:I go into the bookstore by Ambvai · · Score: 1

      I can't install third-party apps on it though. (Kindle Store, Humble Bundle games, etc.) without modding it though. Which is easy though; maybe 30 minutes from start to finish, if you don't have the files already.

    4. Re: I go into the bookstore by alen · · Score: 1

      Mine always has the iPhone free app and media codes. I grab a bunch for the Dunkin donuts people I know in exchange for game of thrones

      And since the wheel chair ramp is through the Starbucks, I have to go to the bookstore if I have my kid with me in the stroller

    5. Re: I go into the bookstore by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Can't you just pick up the stroller and carry it up a few stairs? How much does a stroller with a small child weigh anyway?

    6. Re: I go into the bookstore by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      It may not be that kind of stroller

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    7. Re:I go into the bookstore by mrmeval · · Score: 1

      I did the same damn thing to Borders going to the better Seattle's best coffee shop in the back.

      B&N can go the way of Borders. Both are dull witted, slow, restrictive, constricting, narrow minded 'book' stores that were a stifling influence on books and book publishing.

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    8. Re:I go into the bookstore by TWX · · Score: 2

      It would probably help if they'd honor their web prices in their stores.

      I looked up the new David Weber title last night, and it was about $18 on the website, $25 in the stores, and they don't honor the web price in the store, and after shipping it basically costs the same. Found this out calling the store.

      I didn't bother to buy it. I'll wait for a copy to show up at a used bookstore. I only have about a dozen of those to choose from around here.

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    9. Re:I go into the bookstore by TWX · · Score: 1

      No wonder the books smell like coffee after awhile...

      If it were good coffee that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing...

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    10. Re: I go into the bookstore by alen · · Score: 1

      I have a bugaboo
      It's over $1000 with the accessories and the escalade of baby strollers. And my 2 year old is like 38 pounds

    11. Re:I go into the bookstore by mrmeval · · Score: 1

      David is so popular now it's impossible buy a signed copy from him. I've tried like hell to get other authors to sign his books and vice versa. If I'd gotten John Ringo to do it. FWOOM PROFIT!

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    12. Re:I go into the bookstore by lymond01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Okay, this was marked "Funny" but why go to a bookstore when you can browse, borrow, and read samples of books from anywhere? Why go to a music store when I can download from anywhere?

      As long as the functionality of the bookstore is no greater than the functionality of my ebook reader, what is the draw? I can get reviews, recommendations, top 100 lists by genre, new releases, etc all in the palm of my hand, none of which I can get at the bookstore unless I bring my internet device.

      So sure...want me to show up at your warehouse-sized bookstore? Give me some good live music (a la the Eolian). Give me cake. Give me coffee. Hell, give me a beer or glass of wine. Give me tables with cabled iPads so I can surf book selections whilst drinking my beer and listening to a lutist then go grab them off your shelf when I go. Or when I stay.

      Save money and make your stores smaller. Maybe sell only certain genres, or hardcovers, or softcovers (because who buys hardcovers anymore?). But keep the food, keep the music, keep the kiosk tables, keep freaking quiz night, just give me a reason to walk in your store, because while I love me a good bookstore, I love me the beach/forest/cafe/couch/bed more.

    13. Re:I go into the bookstore by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      as opposed to what, exactly?
      There aren't a hell of a lot of bookstores around anymore, especially if you live in a not huge city.
      It's kinda like saying "Good riddance Kmart, you crappy chain. We've got Walmart now!"

    14. Re:I go into the bookstore by TWX · · Score: 1

      ?

      Uh, why would it be profitable to have a signature from the wrong author?

      I don't personally care much if an author signs the book or not. Having met a few authors at lit cons, their work, not their lives, are what make it interesting to me.

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    15. Re: I go into the bookstore by Beavertank · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your comment is fantastically hilarious with the "Dictionary of Numbers" plugin active. The funny part reads:

      "And my 2 year old is like 38 pounds [ Medium-sized dog]"

      ...although maybe it's only funny to me because I'm sleep deprived.

    16. Re: I go into the bookstore by arth1 · · Score: 1

      I have a bugaboo
      It's over $1000 with the accessories and the escalade of baby strollers. And my 2 year old is like 38 pounds

      So... about $1059 or 687 pounds in total then.

    17. Re: I go into the bookstore by Demolition · · Score: 1

      Can't you just pick up the stroller and carry it up a few stairs? How much does a stroller with a small child weigh anyway?

      We had a so-called "lightweight" stroller made by Graco. According to the specs, it weighs 30 lbs. Add a baby (25-30 lbs) and all his stuff (nappies, blankets, bottles/snacks, toys, etc. for another 10+ lbs) and it turns into quite a load.

      Lugging 70 lbs up and down stairs might be easy for me, but it would be a real chore for my wife. So, I'm not surprised that other people seek out the wheelchair ramps. We certainly did and were grateful for them.

    18. Re:I go into the bookstore by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Get a MicroSD card and install Cyanogenmod on it. The Nook can dual-boot to the uSD card without any sort of modding or rooting. I do it and switch between the B&N version of Android and Cyanogenmod depending on what I want to do.

      **This is with a Nook Color. I don't know if the newer tablets can do it.

    19. Re:I go into the bookstore by SJHillman · · Score: 1

      I never saw any value in a celebrity signing something. The sole exception being if you can use that signature to get a credit card in their name...

    20. Re:I go into the bookstore by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why go to the movies when you can watch it online? Why go to theater or a sports arena when you can see it on TV? Why go sightseeing when you can use Google Street View?

      Some things are just better in person. Personally, I find a book store much easier to browse a category of books when I'm not looking for something very specific. I also find paper books much easier to flip through randomly to get a sense of the structure and content of the book than the electronic counterpart.

      I agree with what you say about adding value to it... make book stores more than just a store.

    21. Re:I go into the bookstore by David_Hart · · Score: 1

      I never go into the bookstore anymore. I buy all e-books so that I can share them with family, friends, etc. We've registered all of our Kindles to one account which gives us all access to the books we buy.

    22. Re:I go into the bookstore by jp10558 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I love Amazon, and I've used e-book readers since 2000. They're great if I know exactly what book I want to read, or if I know I want to read the next book from Author X. Amazon is even sometimes useful in their recommendations of what people read or looked at that were similar to the book I'm currently looking at.

      What all the web based tools fall down for me is browsing. I can't look at a shelf of Thrillers, Mysteries, or Fantasy. I won't find new types of books via Amazon's recommendations, just an ever narrowing slice of books more and more similar to the ones I've already bought.

      Maybe I'm old fashioned somehow, but I don't necessarily enjoy the bubble effect the web has. When I want a new book I find interesting, I can browse a bookstore and likely come out with one in 15 minutes. With Amazon, I've spent weeks trying to find a "good book" to read that isn't a sequel, or extremely similar to one I've just read.

      I also find that while I'll pick up a book that may be enjoyable from a shelf based on cover art, blurb on the back etc, Amazon almost has too much information - do I really want a book that only got 3 stars? Do I read the reviews, which often take any reason to read the book away? Is it all scammed by companies? Too much work, and I rarely get a book.

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    23. Re:I go into the bookstore by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      I once got Cory Doctorow to sign a book by Charles Stross (who was there at the time, and also signed it).

      It's like the rare photograph of Sean Connery signed by Roger Moore that's worth $150.

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    24. Re:I go into the bookstore by readingaccount · · Score: 1

      In YOUR opinion, of course. You don't speak for those that contributed to the $1B+ box office results of The Avengers, for example. Some people prefer seeing things on the big screen, if only for particular films.

    25. Re: I go into the bookstore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why can't your two year old walk up the stairs? My two year old is never in a stroller in stores. Handles stairs just fine. So now the stroller is lighter, and in the trunk of the car.

    26. Re:I go into the bookstore by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      In the case of movies I would much rather stream than go to the cinema. No douchbags commenting on everything and eating sickly-sweet smelling popcorn the whole time. Lower cost, better screen, free food from my kitchen, pause button and volume control...

      The only real disadvantage with online book shops is delivery, but since many books fit through the letterbox even that isn't so bad.

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    27. Re:I go into the bookstore by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      The Barnes & Noble locations around Philadelphia have the full Starbucks logo and the full suite of Starbucks products, but there's an easy way to tell it's not a "real" Starbucks. At all of the real Starbucks locations I've visited in the Philadelphia suburbs, the service is fast. Most Barnes & Noble Starbucks shops I've visited have service speeds ranging from slow to painfully slow.

    28. Re:I go into the bookstore by IDtheTarget · · Score: 2

      I can't install third-party apps on it though. (Kindle Store, Humble Bundle games, etc.) without modding it though. Which is easy though; maybe 30 minutes from start to finish, if you don't have the files already.

      You no longer have to mod it. They now come with Google Play. If you have an un-modded nook, the last two updates included Google Play, so all you have to do is update the tablet. I've put all kinds of apps on my HD and HD+.

    29. Re:I go into the bookstore by IDtheTarget · · Score: 2

      Get a MicroSD card and install Cyanogenmod on it. The Nook can dual-boot to the uSD card without any sort of modding or rooting. I do it and switch between the B&N version of Android and Cyanogenmod depending on what I want to do.

      **This is with a Nook Color. I don't know if the newer tablets can do it.

      They can, though I had booting problems with both a 64GB SanDisk and a 32GB SanDisk on my HD+. When the Nooks started including Google Play in the last couple of updates, I just went to the stock Nook system, updated, and started putting in my apps from the play store.

    30. Re:I go into the bookstore by IDtheTarget · · Score: 1

      It would probably help if they'd honor their web prices in their stores. I looked up the new David Weber title last night, and it was about $18 on the website, $25 in the stores, and they don't honor the web price in the store, and after shipping it basically costs the same. Found this out calling the store. I didn't bother to buy it. I'll wait for a copy to show up at a used bookstore. I only have about a dozen of those to choose from around here.

      Try Baen ebooks. (They have a section on David Weber.) They've got easily the best prices I've seen on science fiction titles, they often give away the first one or two books of an established series to get you hooked, and there's no DRM. They are the only publishing company I've encountered that treat their customers as people. If I want a book, I always try Baen first, then if they don't have the book I'll try the other stores.

    31. Re:I go into the bookstore by SJHillman · · Score: 1

      Watching a movie on Netflix is entertainment. Going to the movies with friends is a social event.

      I also prefer paper books for non-linear reading (such as textbooks), in which you may be flipping around between various pages a lot. Paper books also have the advantage of not needing batteries and holding up a little better to moisture, sunlight exposure and other factors that can shorten the life of electronics.

      There's two or more different markets... the problem is that the retailers are trying to treat them as one market.

    32. Re:I go into the bookstore by Clsid · · Score: 1

      I don't know, I can browse books by genre directly from my Nook e-reader.

    33. Re:I go into the bookstore by Clsid · · Score: 1

      You can alternatively use the LendMe feature on Nook devices for the same purpose. One area where I feel the Nook is better.

    34. Re:I go into the bookstore by wbr1 · · Score: 1

      ... Give me cake....

      It's a lie

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    35. Re:I go into the bookstore by bobaferret · · Score: 1

      I got Bruce Campbell to sign my chainsaw.... that took some work, but I felt it was worth it...

    36. Re:I go into the bookstore by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Lower cost, better screen, free food from my kitchen, pause button and volume control...

      Don't forget access to a fully stocked BAR!!

      :)

      Oh, and if you've got a chick over to watch a movie, with the food and bar, you can get her nekkid on the couch even before the movie finishes if things are going well.

      :D

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    37. Re:I go into the bookstore by mostadorthsander · · Score: 1

      in america you support what you like to do with dollars and deeds, if you want bookstores invest in the bookstore with your cash and foot traffic...otherwise money will be shifted elsewheres...

    38. Re:I go into the bookstore by mostadorthsander · · Score: 1

      I go to the bookstore all the time with my family and friends...it is a wonderful place to study and learn and converse...

    39. Re:I go into the bookstore by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      and if you've got a chick over to watch a movie

      Yeah, right. This is /.

    40. Re:I go into the bookstore by DedTV · · Score: 1
      Few people go to the theatre because they like $8 popcorn, teenagers throwing crap all over the over the place and listening to what ridiculous ring tones people have.
      Eventually everyone is going to have a quality home theatre and movies will be released on Bluray without any delay for theatrical release and theatres will quickly go the way of video arcades, video rental stores, software stores, music stores and book stores.

      The days are numbered for any business that is dedicated to selling media that can be digitized.

      The "get off my lawn" part of me It's a bit sad about that. But that doesn't make it any less inevitable.

    41. Re:I go into the bookstore by mrmeval · · Score: 1

      How often does that happen? How often can you get a best selling author to sign another best selling author's novel. ;)

      It would be novelty value that boosts it's value a little.

      Better is finding a copy of an established authors porn he wrote when poor and get him to sign it. I've held it now for a few years till his fame has grown and when he gets a best seller I'm putting it on ebay! :-D

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    42. Re:I go into the bookstore by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 1

      "Eventually everyone is going to have a quality home theatre"

      This is ridiculous. For a lot of people, a "home theater" is not something they care to spend money on.

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    43. Re:I go into the bookstore by DedTV · · Score: 1
      Context should have made it clear that "everyone" was only meant to include those who make commercial movie theatres, and other brick and mortar businesses that are dedicated to selling access to media, a viable business. Simultaneously, context also should have made it clear "everyone" was not intended to mean "every person on Earth including people whose last recent release movie watched was Breakfast at Tiffanys, those who are both deaf and blind, the Amish, domesticated animals, visiting aliens and the newly risen Undead will want to buy a home theater".


      As home theatre quality and ease of use increases, prices drop and the population becomes more technologically savvy; avoiding the annoyances and expense of movie theatres will become more and more attractive to those who currently utilize movie theatres until eventually, enough of those theater-goers will opt for the home alternative that the commercial movie theatre will no longer be a large scale viable business.

      I apologize for forgetting there are some people incapable of recognizing context and need everything spelled out for them.

  2. Are people reading fewer paper books? by Nimey · · Score: 2

    I just got done with a garage sale and almost none of my (cheaply priced!) books sold, lots fewer than when I had a garage sale about five years ago.

    I'd suppose more people who actually read are transitioning to e-readers. This might also account in general for why there are fewer visitors to B&N stores.

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    1. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Didn't you get the memo?

      http://i.imgur.com/az9FCjh.jpg

    2. Re: Are people reading fewer paper books? by alen · · Score: 1

      Yep
      Last paper book I tried to read was game of thrones, six months ago
      Gave up around page 80 and bought the kindle version of the five book bundle

      I read on my iPad and laptop and only buy kindle versions. Amazon is like steam, lots of sales. Make a list of books and check the prices and buy for $5 when they go on sale

    3. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by geek · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes people are reading paper books a LOT less. Every person I know has a Kindle or an iPad or like me and my wife, Nexus 7's. Paper books are great, don't get me wrong but when my mother in law even has an iPad for reading you know the death of paper books is on the horizon.

      I was a bitter clinger to paper books. I graduated with an English degree and love literature. Too me paper books were sacred. Now I can't stand the thought of dealing with a paper book, storing it, watching it yellow on my shelf or having to fight with the binding while trying to read and holding the cover back. My Nexus 7 is the perfect experience. I can get books from multiple retailers on a single device while sitting in bed. I have Google Books, Kindle, Nook, Kobo and many others on my device and I shop around for prices.

      Couple this with Calibre and I can manage my library any way I see fit, convert between formats and store them locally or in the cloud as I see fit.

    4. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Didn't you get the memo?

      http://i.imgur.com/az9FCjh.jpg

      Funny and not goatse.

    5. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by godrik · · Score: 2

      There are multiple effects.
      First I believe people are reading less books at all.
      Then all the classics that are often mandatory for school education are commonly found for free (and legally) on the internet. That certainly hurts book stores significantly.
      Also the e-book effect bring less people in store. That probably decrease the amount of sales in "crap magazines" or other books that you only buy because you see it.
      Amazon is killing stores by making book delivery the day after for free. It happened to me that I bought a book online at 2pm while being at the pool and got in front of my door at 10am the day after.

      I'll feel nostalgic about book store, but I perfectly understand that they need to go away as they are highly inefficient compared to more modern techniques like buying book online or buying e-books.

    6. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 2

      Why would you use an ipad for reading books? Seems like an invitation to eyestrain to me.

    7. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      I recently moved cross country. I had a choice- I could move over a thousand books, costing me hundreds of dollars. Or I could get rid of them, keep only the ones I'm most likely to reread, and rebuy the rest electronically as I want them. I picked option 2, because its more convenient- permanent access anywhere in the world. Instead of lugging books on trips, I take a Kindle. I can slip every book I own in my pocket.

      I'm worried about DRM, but the Kindle has been cracked. With that barrier gone I prefer the convenience of the ebook to the slightly better experience of a real book. The only exception is for books I need to quickly flip through- references, cook books, and tour guides. Those the refresh time of an ebook are too high and too inconvenient, I keep them in paper.

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    8. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It doesn't help that most of the store is devoted to all kinds of crap like toys, cards, god books, and astrology.
      How many interpretations of the bible can a person buy?
      Meanwhile the science fiction section has to share shelf space with fantasy and teen romance.
      The textbook section is almost entirely business self help books and X for dummies.
      I think they had 3 or 4 books on security related software development and half an aisle on developing for IOS.
      I understand that iphone is hot right now, and god is great, but there are limits to how many of the same book you need in a store.

    9. Re: Are people reading fewer paper books? by alen · · Score: 1

      I change the background color to cream in the daytime and black at night
      The white hurts my eyes after a while

      My mom has an iPad 4 for reading and loves it. Even with her inch thick glasses. Never complains of eye strain

    10. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 4, Funny

      It doesn't help that most of the store is devoted to all kinds of crap like toys, cards, god books, and astrology.

      Some of the God books are good, such as "Where God Went Wrong," "Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes," "Who Is This God Person, Anyway?," and "Well, That Just About Wraps It Up For God."

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    11. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by PRMan · · Score: 1

      I prefer "The Bible". I hear it's a best-seller.

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    12. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 3, Funny

      They eyestrain worry is overstated.

      The real problem with an iPad for books, compared to a Kindle or to a paperback novel, is that the iPad hurts a lot more when you doze off reading in bed and drop it on face.

    13. Re: Are people reading fewer paper books? by interval1066 · · Score: 1

      So long as your the one that has to carry the damn things. I carry all my books on a microSD, thanks.

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    14. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      There is some good stuff in there, yes, but it can drag at times. I wonder if the author has considered doing a remake? Maybe something that could support a multi year series of summer blockbusters, like Harry Potter or Batman.

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    15. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by interval1066 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, after a life time of carry around 3-4K volume library, and adding to it on occasion, and everytime I moved lugging box after box of them around to where every I moved to I finally gave up and found digital copies of most of the ones I had to keep, especially the references and computer manuals, which were always the largest. Now I carry my entire library in my pocket, my change pocket. I'm such a poor bastard.

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    16. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      If you were a more avid reader perhaps you would have gotten the reference.

    17. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I graduated with an English degree and love literature. Too me paper books were sacred.

      You can't make this stuff up, folks.

    18. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They eyestrain worry is overstated.

      No. Wrong. Ebooks didn't get started because of ipads, the ipad screen is the same as a laptop screen. If it were that easy to read books on a laptop screen nobody would have needed to invent ereaders. Whether or not ipad fans like it, the simple reality is that you can't read books or even lengthy texts as easily from a luminescent monitor as from an e-ink display. Mod me down all you like, claim otherwise based on anecdote, but you didn't have people selling their book collections when laptops became common. End of story.

    19. Re: Are people reading fewer paper books? by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      This is definitely preferable to the several walls of floor to ceiling bookshelves that I have currently: http://i.imgur.com/Y8dmMbN.jpg

      And for another $30 I could have had a 64gb card, which I suspect could easily hold the entire contents of your typical B&N store (minus videos and audio/picture books).

    20. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      The form factor is completely different. The ipad also has a much high resolution screen than most laptops.

    21. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Funny

      " I graduated with an English degree and love literature. Too me paper books were sacred."

      That is just two, er .. ah .. to ... I mean too funny!

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    22. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you think the reason might actually be that a 7" tablet in your hand is a lot easier to manage than a laptop? Nah. You're right. That makes way too much sense.

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    23. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      I recommend the rainbow bible It's pre highlighted, so you don't waste time reading stuff that isn't going to be on the exam.

    24. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      Ebooks have a much lower screen resolution and are still the reason people are getting rid of paper.

    25. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      I don't know about ipads, but reading on a nook is no more eyestraining to me than reading on paper.

      A few things I did differently:
      - My ereader software (aldiko) is always set to night mode (white text on black background)
      - The colors are customized so that the white text is actually a very light gray. The black background is actually a very dark grey. The difference isn't noticeable unless you see them side by side, but not having such a glaring contrast seems to help immensely
      - The print size usually gets adjusted to a bit larger than your typical paperback book, I'll also fiddle with the margins and line spacing until it's not obnoxious.
      - Running an app such as lux, which allows me to turn the brightness down even further than would generally be possible, is really great for reading at night without it feeling like the screen is trying to burn out my eyeballs.

    26. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Nimey · · Score: 4, Informative

      He's actually a pretty terrible author who's been getting by on name recognition and PR. Have you actually read the Old Testament? Utter repetitive dreck and the main character is a bloodthirsty sociopathic asshole who'll kill people for burning the wrong incense.

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    27. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      That's because most laptop screens are 15 inch 1366x768, which are terrible for reading due to how far apart the pixels are. It's much different if you've got a 15 inch laptop running 1920x1080 (or higher) resolution.

      It's the pixelation that causes text to be annoying to read on a monitor, and has nothing to do with some mythical difference between a luminescent display vs a reflective display.

    28. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      Do you think the reason might actually be that a 7" tablet in your hand is a lot easier to manage than a laptop?

      No, I don't think that. I own a netbook and a tablet and the only thing I read books on is my nook because I don't feel like the backs of my eyeballs are being bleached while I do so.

    29. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Moofie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "the simple reality is that you can't read books or even lengthy texts as easily from a luminescent monitor as from an e-ink display."

      Simply not true. I can, and do, and your wishing won't stop me.

      "but you didn't have people selling their book collections when laptops became common"

      That's a form factor thing, not a backlit screen thing.

      eink/epaper is great. I happen to prefer the flexibility of an LCD. Neither preference should get you all hot n' bothered, because it's just that: A preference. For /my/ use case, an LCD is superior. For /your/ use case, do whatever the hell you want. It'll be OK.

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    30. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by icebike · · Score: 1

      I just got done with a garage sale and almost none of my (cheaply priced!) books sold, lots fewer than when I had a garage sale about five years ago.

      I'd suppose more people who actually read are transitioning to e-readers. This might also account in general for why there are fewer visitors to B&N stores.

      Exactly. Its not the nook that is killing B&N, its the pointless clinging to expensive stores in high-rent districts.

      Too many people bemoan the loss of book stores, more as a cultural icon than for any real need.
      But for me, the availability of just about every book in print (as well as zillions no longer in print) at my finger tips is a godsend.
      Not having to store all those books is a second benefit.

      Perhaps that is why you can't even give away books these days. The used book stores are piled high with inventory that just sit there and molder away.

      I get that its a digital good, which can be wiped out with by any random power failure. But easy come, easy go, and easy come right back again.

      I use Calibre to manage all my ebooks, store my library on two free services (thanks DropBox and Yandex). I bought two books just this morning
      that are going directly to my Calibre bookshelf. (DRM going straight to bit bucket).

      I buy way more books since Nook than Pre Nook.

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    31. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by pregister · · Score: 2

      So, we have the antagonist...

    32. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by tibit · · Score: 1

      Yup, because an English degree and love of literature makes one no more fallible to typos. Never ever, unh unh.

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    33. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by tibit · · Score: 2

      As time goes, I get tired of keeping the paperback bindings open. Kinda inconvenient when you want to read and scratch your wife's back. She loves when I read. She gets scratched for hours :)

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    34. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by lymond01 · · Score: 1

      I agree. I've read entire books on my iPhone (not iPad) out of necessity (because sometimes you just. need. to. finish. the. story.). But now that I own a Nook (though how much longer I'll have the content...) it's what I use. I can read the e-ink all day long and my eyes don't bug me at all - I have a little clip light which does great at night/on planes. I put up with the iPhone but my eyes were definitely not happy about it.

    35. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

      And unfortunately, eBook reading is STILL a completely *dreadful* experience for anything besides cover-to-cover novels and magazines.

      E-ink takes an eternity to flip pages, tablets are eye-searing, low-contrast, low-res, or some combination... and both totally suck for random-access reference-type "flip back and forth between a few sections of the book" reading. I'm as guilty as anyone of buying eBooks when I need some book RIGHT NOW, but damn, I wish somebody could make ebooks not suck so miserably.

    36. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Xyrus · · Score: 1

      B&N should have tried to refocus on customer experience if they intended to keep their stores open. There really isn't a reason to go to a brick and mortar store anymore when you can browse and read practically any book you want from a couch, and at usually cheaper prices. To compete with that they need something to make the customers WANT to come to the store.

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    37. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Wow, you fit 5 megabytes of crazy into a 500-byte post. You need to see a patent attorney.

    38. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by sehlat · · Score: 1

      The eyestrain issue is (greatly) over-rated. I've needed glasses for at least the past 7 years, and I was already an eBook reader when age finally caught up with my eyeballs. All I had to do was get a decent pair of reader glasses with enough magnification, and I would have needed them for the treeware editions anyway.

      The really nice thing about my phone and tablet is that you can set the font size to make it easier to read. If I've forgotten my reading glasses, I can just boost the font size, and as long as I don't read "Meter Maids in Bondage" in public with LARGE FONT, I'm good.

    39. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the warning won't click now.

    40. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Beyond whether or not you think reading a book on an LCD "makes your eyes bleed", the dedicated e-book reader has one major advantage against the overhyped tablet brand. It has much better battery life.

      Although you have to be willing to try something new first.

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    41. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by mjwx · · Score: 2

      I just got done with a garage sale and almost none of my (cheaply priced!) books sold, lots fewer than when I had a garage sale about five years ago.

      I'd suppose more people who actually read are transitioning to e-readers. This might also account in general for why there are fewer visitors to B&N stores.

      I'm buying more books than I did 5 years ago.

      It's not lack of demand or foot traffic that's killing B&N, it's the fact I can go to thebookdepository.com (Amazon charges stupid amounts of shipping to Oz, and yes, I know TBD is owned by Amazon now... Shipping is still cheaper) search for exactly the book I want and buy it for less. In a physical book store, I have to pray they have it in stock, find it myself (because some apathetic staffer put half the Iain M Banks novels under M and the other half under B) wait in line and then pay twice as much for it.

      B&N have simply priced themselves out of the market.

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    42. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by mjwx · · Score: 1

      They eyestrain worry is overstated.

      No. Wrong. Ebooks didn't get started because of ipads, the ipad screen is the same as a laptop screen. If it were that easy to read books on a laptop screen nobody would have needed to invent ereaders. Whether or not ipad fans like it, the simple reality is that you can't read books or even lengthy texts as easily from a luminescent monitor as from an e-ink display. Mod me down all you like, claim otherwise based on anecdote, but you didn't have people selling their book collections when laptops became common. End of story.

      It's not just Ipads, any highly luminescent screen has the same problem, so most backlit screens. Even though you can get e-readers for the same weight as a book E-Ink screens still have drawbacks in low and bright lighting conditions. I tend to do a lot of my reading on aircraft (where it can be quite dark, joys of redeye flights) so I prefer dead tree because they simply handle the contrast between a dark cabin and a flashlight (I've got a miner's light on a headband to avoid annoying other passengers). Eye Strain from luminescent screens is severely exacerbated in the same low light conditions.

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    43. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      I've read enormous amounts of text off of CRTs and LCDs, frequently in single long sittings, ever since the mid 90s. It's okay.

      That said, I'm uninterested in buying ebooks because I don't think they provide good value for money. I have hundreds of books on my iPad right now, but all free.

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    44. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Have you actually read the Old Testament? Utter repetitive dreck and the main character is a bloodthirsty sociopathic asshole who'll kill people for burning the wrong incense.

      It's the world's oldest good cop/bad cop story, first we're terrible sinners that must be banished and entire cities nuked from orbit and then comes our savior who loves us and will forgive everything if we just love him back. The whole old testament is a guilt-trip in order to set us up to need redemption, then it comes like water to a man dying of thirst.

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    45. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Moofie · · Score: 1

      What makes you think I haven't tried something else? I've got a perfectly good Kindle right here. It's fine...well designed, well made, nice piece of hardware...but I /prefer/

      (there's the key word, everybody)

      the utility of an LCD (LED OLED whateverthehell) tablet.

      The farce here is that one person somewhere thinks they've got some kind of read about Immutable Truths of How Reading Works, and that's just silly. You don't. I don't. GP doesn't. It will be OK.

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    46. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Moofie · · Score: 1

      And the "intrepid imaginaut" can't imagine a world where people, I don't know, have a different experience?

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    47. Re: Are people reading fewer paper books? by pickin_grinnin · · Score: 1

      I quit buying books at B&N when they got rid of the horror section. If I have to hunt for the genre I enjoy most, I'll stick to Amazon's search engine.

    48. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It's more to do with battery life and weight. The screen isn't the only advantage that ebook readers have over LCD based tablets.

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    49. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Clsid · · Score: 1

      In my case I stopped buying books because anytime I move, books are by far the major hassle. Plus it's neat to have your whole library wherever you go. If Apple comes out with an iPad Mini with Retina I'll switch to that since I can enjoy my B&N collection, can buy from the iBookstore as well as Amazon.

    50. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Clsid · · Score: 1

      Come back after you have actually tried one with a retina display for one month. I doubt you would say the same thing. If anything I complain that they are heavy.

    51. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Clsid · · Score: 1

      Tablets in general, including e-readers and their corresponding bookstores are the reasons why people are getting rid of paper. The whole swift change of magazines to digital versions can be attributed to the iPad. In my case the Nook e-reader did it for me, but for some other people it's a Nexus, or a Kindle Fire. Having said that, the experience of reading in a high resolution device like the Nexus 7 or iPad 3 cannot be matched by my trusty Nook. But one thing e-readers have is that the battery charge holds for 30 days.

    52. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by Clsid · · Score: 1

      Magazines ARE dreadful with an e-Reader. There is no question that you are better off with an LCD screen in tablet form preferably for that particular situation. Same deal with programming books. Other than that, an e-reader is an excellent device that allowed me to switch to digital in that particular front. So it's ok.

    53. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by wbr1 · · Score: 2

      They eyestrain worry is overstated.

      The real problem with an iPad for books, compared to a Kindle or to a paperback novel, is that the iPad hurts a lot more when you doze off reading in bed and drop it on face.

      Maybe the iPad should be iPadded.

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    54. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by samwichse · · Score: 1

      sed 's/wife/dog/'

      I hope...

    55. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by tibit · · Score: 1

      Said someone who never got his/her back scratched :)

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    56. Re:Are people reading fewer paper books? by WMD_88 · · Score: 1

      doze off reading in bed and drop it on face.

      Ah, a comrade in arms! :) No stitches required, thankfully, but my lower lip really hurt for two weeks afterwards.

  3. LOL Ballmer by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft just invested $1 billion into B&N.

    How much longer are the shareholders going to let monkey boy run things? A lot longer I hope ;)

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    1. Re:LOL Ballmer by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, I was going to comment that Microsoft's keen business sense appears to be functioning pretty consistently these past several years.

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    2. Re:LOL Ballmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's a shame that the two of them cozied up - the stand B&N took when Microsoft tried to extort patent settlements out of them for their use of Android was worthy of respect.

    3. Re:LOL Ballmer by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yep, the deal with MS was an obvious sign that B&N's end was nearing. Having MS buy into something is a death knell these days.

    4. Re:LOL Ballmer by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Please tell me that this means that the Oracle/MS deal also means that Oracle is dying.

      And yes, I know it's off-topic for the story, but on-topic for the thread.

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    5. Re:LOL Ballmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nope.

      Microsoft invested 300 million in a B&N subsidiary that is responsible for the Nook and academia stuff. MS couldn't care less about the brick and morter stores - they want a piece of the e-reader and education market. (http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57423957-75/barnes-noble-microsoft-ink-$300m-deal-on-e-reading/)

      One rule Ive learned after visiting Slashdot for 15 years is that Slashdot frequently fudges the facts in order to make MS seem inept.

    6. Re:LOL Ballmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You're wrong. MS invested $1B into specifically the Nook brand of the business, but not Barnes & Noble as a whole. They currently own 17.6% of the Nook brand and business. They're apparently mulling over buying the service outright.

      Which in theory is not a bad idea; as MS moves more into tablets they need an app ecosystem to compete with iTunes, and book reading is a big part of that. They can either give that piece of the business to Amazon, or they can have their own service, which if they buy the Nook business as rumored they will have one.

      Now whether this move will be successful is up for debate; retail is not MS's specialty. But there's a big difference between investing in a specific product line and investing in the company as a whole.

    7. Re:LOL Ballmer by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Nooks run Android. Wouldn't this just carve up MS's app offerings? Unless the next gen Nooks are going to run RT.

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    8. Re:LOL Ballmer by readingaccount · · Score: 1

      Oh please. The fact Microsoft can survive sinking $1 billion in a failed enterprise is enough evidence that they've still got plenty of life in them despite all the hopes and dreams in geekdom in Microsoft collapsing years ago.

    9. Re:LOL Ballmer by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Might not be as dumb as you think. If they think B&N is dying then they just put themselves at the front of the queue to buy up the brand when it does. MS already has online stores and their two main competitors (Google and Apple) both offer books on theirs.

      Then again this is Ballmer, so odd are you are correct.

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    10. Re:LOL Ballmer by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I never said it was a death knell for Microsoft, I said it was a death knell for whoever MS was buying into.

  4. Two words by benjfowler · · Score: 3, Interesting

    'Amazon' and 'antitrust'.

    Give it time. They're so overwhelmingly dominant in online retail, that people will be calling them the Standard Oil of the 21st century, if they aren't already.

    1. Re: Two words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'd argue "book publishers" charging as much for ebooks as much as printed, bound and delivered books.
      My response to draconian pricing/behavior from MAFIAA was to stop buying. The same is happening with ebooks.

    2. Re:Two words by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      'Amazon' and 'antitrust'.

      It is not illegal to dominate a sector, nor is it even illegal to have a monopoly. It is only illegal to use your dominant position to engage in anti-competitive practices. Standard Oil was notorious for this. Microsoft also used their OS dominance to muscle in and crush competitors in office applications and browsers. I haven't see Amazon doing anything like that. Their competitors are just a click away.

    3. Re: Two words by benjfowler · · Score: 1

      That's interesting.

      I suppose the publisher-cartel justification for this is that the physical cost of printing is extremely low compared to the overall costs of bringing a book to market.

      So if this is the case, then I'm sure the publishes wouldn't mind at all, if I traded in my bulky, heavy dead-wood books for e-reader equivalents...

      (But then who am I kidding??)

    4. Re:Two words by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 4, Funny

      'Amazon' and 'antitrust'.

      It is not illegal to dominate a sector, nor is it even illegal to have a monopoly. It is only illegal to use your dominant position to engage in anti-competitive practices. Standard Oil was notorious for this. Microsoft also used their OS dominance to muscle in and crush competitors in office applications and browsers. I haven't see Amazon doing anything like that. Their competitors are just a click away.

      Actually, thanks to Amazon's "one-click" patent, competitors are now forced to be no less than two clicks away or they're going to get a cease-and-desist from Amazon.

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    5. Re: Two words by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      That's interesting.

      I suppose the publisher-cartel justification for this is that the physical cost of printing is extremely low compared to the overall costs of bringing a book to market.

      So if this is the case, then I'm sure the publishes wouldn't mind at all, if I traded in my bulky, heavy dead-wood books for e-reader equivalents...

      (But then who am I kidding??)

      Of course they wouldn't mind, they get to charge you twice!

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    6. Re:Two words by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Actually, thanks to Amazon's "one-click" patent, competitors are now forced to be no less than two clicks away or they're going to get a cease-and-desist from Amazon.

      That isnt monopoly abuse, that is just patent trolling. Either way it is still bulslhit, though.

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    7. Re:Two words by PRMan · · Score: 1

      I already commented, but this was funny.

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    8. Re:Two words by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You are talking about Standard Oil as if you are reciting a well learned poem. Standard Oil became as big as it did from 1969 to 1911 by finding ways to bring prices down for the end consumer from about 70 cents to about 5 cents in that time period. In that same time period, Rockefeller became one of the richest people in history, much wealthier then the pygmies of billionaires that exist today. The company was growing and increasing its business at a staggering pace and it was innovating to achieve that. Anything, from buying up forests to build their own barrels (and lowering new empty barrel costs by over 80%), to figuring out how to load and unload their products faster on the railroads, to finding ways to be more efficient in railroad delivery, to ensure that the train cars will not be riding empty and thus lowering costs of operating trains and getting discounts because of that, to building up more and more productive capacity.

      Saying that a company was a monopoly, when in fact it was broken apart because people just could not compete with its efficiencies to the point that the prices for oil products have NEVER gone down since the moment Standard Oil was broken up.... who exactly got the profits of breaking up that efficient economy of scale but the people that wanted a piece of the pie at the EXPENSE of the consumer and got the politicians to provide it to them.

      This was a disgrace then and it is a disgrace now, government is not authorised to distort the markets like that.

    9. Re:Two words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You're mistaking the requirements for patents for that of trademarks. Trademarks must be aggressively defended to be maintained, patents can be completely undefended and remain valid (so long as the claims haven't been voided by a court and the maintenance fees have been duly paid).

    10. Re:Two words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      actually the supreme court just ruled because you have patents, it doesn't mean it's a "get out of antitrust jail free" card. they opened up the FTC going after companies using patients against their competitors.

    11. Re:Two words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      its a requirement for keeping your patent.

      No, it's not. You're confusing patents and trademarks.

    12. Re: Two words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Except that the printing and delivery of books is a small portion of the costs.

      Many eBooks had to be reformatted, or in some cases additional content was added, this adds cost to the eBook version.

      REAL on line storage, 24/7, with fail over etc etc costs REAL money. Money to set up, money to run, money just to keep the damn things cool.
      They also have to store sales records for all the books they sell, tax records, etc etc etc for years.

      So, no, the fact that you can copy a file from your hard drive to a USB stick for free does NOT automatically make ebooks "cheaper"

      Of course one could also argue that 80% of the worlds population works for MUCH less money than you probably earn, you too could be see as being greedy.

    13. Re:Two words by foniksonik · · Score: 1

      How long do benevolent dictatorships last? One generation, maybe two if you're lucky. It's the same with Mr Rockefeller. Maybe he would not have abused the position but can you know for sure that his trustees would have been so magnanimous?

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  5. this makes me sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    This is my favorite retail store. I own nook devices, I buy paperbacks and magazines in stores, my children beg me to take them to the bookstore (meaning Barnes and Noble, there are really no others nearby), and I'm even planning to release a novel through their nook publishing division.

    All the recent stories of them going under make me very very sad.

  6. At least they tried by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The summary seems to attack B&N for trying to adapt to changing times rather than sticking their head in the sand. Even if it was ultimately futile, I don't think it was boneheaded.

    1. Re:At least they tried by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Exactly, here is an existing business trying to change it's business model in the face of technological change. The very thing that people are screaming for on the interwebs and they are getting pilloried for it. Is it possible that the people who want to see other folks business models change won't support those new business models either?

    2. Re:At least they tried by TJamieson · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not only that, the whole article is trollish. They're not "circling the drain" or anything like that; rather they saw that Nook sales sucked, ate up their profits from their standard business, and decided to kill the Nook line. Also known as "adapting to market conditions" - exactly what they should do!

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    3. Re:At least they tried by aussersterne · · Score: 1

      This article seems to suggest that B&N is half right with their move to get out of the tablet business—they should be getting out of the hardware business altogether and focusing on just selling ebooks.

      I tend to agree—I've owned e-ink readers on and off since the original Kindle was released, and I really like e-ink and find that I experience eyestrain reading on tablets or phones—and yet, over the long term, I have to admit that, contrary to my initial expectations, I've ended up selling the e-ink and reading on tablets and phones anyway.

      One less device to carry. One device to rule them all. All of that stuff. I have my phone with me all the time anyway; why carry a dedicated reader as well?

      Distributing apps on the iOS and Google app stores is much cheaper than trying to run an entire hardware business for dedicated niche devices. General purpose tablet sales are off the chart; B&N would do better to abandon hardware and do what they can to get exclusive ebook relationships with authors and publishers that distribute to apps on smartphones and tablets.

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    4. Re:At least they tried by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      Agreed.

      I didn't buy a Nook until the recent fire sale because I didn't want to root the thing to access content I bought from Amazon and the Android marketplace. Once they opened Nook to the wider Google Play Store, I ordered one - but they only made the smart move after they decided to kill the product.

  7. I love the Nook by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

    It's a very simple, small device that does one job and does it well. I'm surprised to hear that their hardware division is struggling, although in fairness I had to buy mine from ebay since they didn't sell them outside the US. I must buy another to use for spare parts. I've actually started to get rid of all my books at this point.

    1. Re:I love the Nook by Nemyst · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's the problem, I think. B&N stupidly is restricting itself to the US, when there's millions (heck, billions) of people outside of that one bloody country. Instead of buying a Nook, I got a Kobo Glo, and that's one sale lost for B&N. Amazon sells the Kindle in more countries and it's always selling like hotcakes, but they're very slow at it. There's a huge market outside of the US, but many American companies seem not to understand that.

  8. Remember when... by ggraham412 · · Score: 2

    Remember when the folks at B&N were hailed as visionary geniuses compared to the doofuses at Borders because B&N had an eReader?

    1. Re:Remember when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Remember when the folks at B&N were hailed as visionary geniuses compared to the doofuses at Borders because B&N had an eReader?

      No.

      If Barnes and Noble want to stay in business, they need to stop selling their books at list price. They don't need to have Amazon's discounts, but how about 20% across the board?

      When I can buy a $49 O'Reilly book on Amazon for $22, there's little incentive to buy from B&N. On the other hand, a 20% discount would be enough to buy in the store - that way I get instantly and in good condition. Anyone else notice that Amazon has cheapened their shipping packaging? No more strink wrapping the book with a cardboard sheet to keep the book from bouncing around the box. And many times, the books are just thrown in a bubble envelope and come with their asses kicked.

    2. Re:Remember when... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I've gotten a couple of items from Amazon lately; they weren't books, and were items that luckily weren't fragile and had their own retail packaging, but it seems that Amazon has decided to hire people who know absolutely nothing about how to pack items for shipping, or even basic physics. Both items came, by themselves, in a box somewhat larger than the item, with a single bubble pack (the inflated "pillows" that usually come in a chain) thrown in, and plenty of extra space. What's the point of throwing in the air pillow if you're not going to fill all the space in the box?

    3. Re:Remember when... by _8553454222834292266 · · Score: 1

      Pretty much. I have mostly stopped buying books from Amazon for this reason.

    4. Re:Remember when... by Omestes · · Score: 1

      I ordered a $500 monitor from them, and it came in a box that exactly fit the actual box the product was in, no padding, no air space, nothing. Luckily it was fine, unlike the previous one where the outer box was crushed, and barely saved by their cheap plastic bubble sheets. The monitor survived, luckily, but had 3 dead pixels in the middle of the screen. Amazon returns can be nice (or knuckle headed).

      Then I ordered a $10 picture frame and it came in a box, within another box, within another box, with a bunch of baffles, and the frame itself was suspended by styrofoam blocks. This picture frame doesn't even have a glass window to protect.

      My favorite is ordering a small 52mm step-up ring, and it came in a HUGE (probably about 3'-square) box, full of those bubble sheets, protecting a 2 inch box with a small aluminum ring in it.

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      A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. -edward abbey
    5. Re:Remember when... by TheLongshot · · Score: 1

      I subscribe to their newsletter, and they regularly send out 15% coupons, so they do do discounts.

      As for buying a book cheaper online: what if you need the book now? What if you want to browse the content to see if the book has the information you need, rather than depending on an online description? I find technical books hard to judge based solely on reviews. I generally want to get my hands on them.

    6. Re:Remember when... by DuckDodgers · · Score: 2

      I have a relative that used to work in their warehouse. To Amazon's credit, the wages are much better than minimum wage. On the other hand, the employees are under absurd pressure to work quickly and they get fired at the drop of a hat for failing to meet production quotas or laid off as soon as demand in their region drops. (My relative was laid off, re-hired, and laid off again in a two month period.)

    7. Re:Remember when... by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      Coupons are an annoyance, you have to do extra work to reap the benefits. I'd rather have an additional 5% discount on everything in the store that is active all of the time than the 10%, 15%, and 20% coupons that get emailed to me once a week but I have to remember to print and take with me.

  9. i picked the losing side, at least i dont lose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I figured B&N for the least evil and bought lots of books over the past years after my nook, and nook color. For the decade or so prior to that I had purchased 0 dead tree books because I was tired of packing my books when moving. I am sad that they seem to be losing the war. At least I can convert all my epubs to DRM free epubs. Thank god for that.

  10. E-book monopoly by SirGarlon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Even on Slashdot, not enough people seem to be concerned about Amazon getting a monopoly on e-books.

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    [Sir Garlon] is the marvellest knight that is now living, for he destroyeth many good knights, for he goeth invisible.
    1. Re:E-book monopoly by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      Because at the moment, the DRM is easily broken and the file converted to pdf (or another format of your choice). When that changes, I'll be more worried.

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      I still have more fans than freaks. WTF is wrong with you people?
    2. Re:E-book monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Their competition is thepiratebay, they can only raise prices and make the user experience so obnoxious before they drive their customers permanently into piracy

      maybe the monopoly bones authors but im not sure how much more they are boned than they were under the previous "advance" or "beg and then give up your left arm/testicle/first born child to be published" system

    3. Re:E-book monopoly by 0123456 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Even on Slashdot, not enough people seem to be concerned about Amazon getting a monopoly on e-books.

      Probably because Amazon don't have one. They own far less of the e-book market now than they did a couple of years ago, and B&N's share has been falling in that time.

      I sell e-books through various stores, and Apple and Kobo account for about as many sales as Amazon. B&N sells pretty much none.

    4. Re:E-book monopoly by tukang · · Score: 1

      Maybe people aren't concerned about Amazon getting a monopoly on ebooks because Apple and Google are viable competitors.

    5. Re:E-book monopoly by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      maybe the monopoly bones authors but im not sure how much more they are boned than they were under the previous "advance" or "beg and then give up your left arm/testicle/first born child to be published" system

      Through a caring, loving, nurturing, trade publisher, the author typically gets 85% of 25% of 70% of the e-book cover price, or about 15% royalties once everyone else has sucked out their cut. Through the EVIL AMAZON MONOPOLY, they generally get at least 35%, or 70% if the book is priced between $2.99 and $9.99.

    6. Re:E-book monopoly by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Probably because Amazon don't have one. They own far less of the e-book market now than they did a couple of years ago, and B&N's share has been falling in that time.

      I sell e-books through various stores, and Apple and Kobo account for about as many sales as Amazon. B&N sells pretty much none.

      The DoJ disagrees with you. In fact, they just wrapped up the case where Apple was the ringleader of a cartel with the publishers in order to raise e-book prices.

      Of course, had Apple not done this whole monopoly thing, Amazon might still have their 80%+ marketshare. But hey, cheap ebooks!

    7. Re:E-book monopoly by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      The DoJ disagrees with you. In fact, they just wrapped up the case where Apple was the ringleader of a cartel with the publishers in order to raise e-book prices.

      So an alleged price-fixing cartel between Apple and trade publishers shows Amazon has an e-book monopoly?

      Does not compute, Will Robinson.

    8. Re:E-book monopoly by bdam · · Score: 1

      I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there. I work for a mid-size publisher, just checked out YTD figures, and Amazon has a clear monopoly in both print and e-book. Further, Amazon knows this and acts accordingly. I'm sure the big publishers have a different relationship and more leverage but there isn't a lot of negotiating with Amazon at this point. They will sell and indeed have sold our e-books at below their cost as loss leaders since they can make it up in other items while dedicated booksellers can't.

  11. they can save the nook by bitt3n · · Score: 4, Funny

    turn it into a pr0n focused device and rebrand it as "the nookie"

    1. Re: they can save the nook by jd2112 · · Score: 1

      Just preloaded it with the "Fifty Shades of Gray" trilogy.

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      Any insufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
    2. Re: they can save the nook by Krojack · · Score: 1

      Picture book version with optional 3D.

  12. I thought it was a toy store by T-Bone-T · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The last time I walked into one of their stores it seemed more like a toy store. Most of it was toys, puzzles, and games. It wasn't what I was expecting at all.

    1. Re:I thought it was a toy store by david.emery · · Score: 1

      Agree. Their music section just duplicated what I could get at WalMart or Target for a lot less; I'm not interested in pop music. Classical content was laughable. Although some of the toys were fun, we don't have children to buy for any more. So that was just more space taken away from their primary mission of selling books. Borders offered a wider selection of books (in its prime). When we had both stores available to us, I'd go to the local B&N for browsing, and Borders (further away) when trying to find something obscure.

      Amazon scratches the 'obscure' itch much better than Borders, but doesn't offer the same browsing experience.

    2. Re:I thought it was a toy store by 0123456 · · Score: 2

      Late last year I saw a few complaints online along the lines of 'I went to B&N before Christmas to buy books as presents, but they don't seem to sell them any more.'

      Abandoning your core market in the hope of picking up a new one is rarely a good business plan.

    3. Re:I thought it was a toy store by lightknight · · Score: 1

      Indeed. As a tech / geek / nerd / whatever (whenever the labels apply), anime / manga love is something of a given. And yet my local B&N decided that rearranging the bookshelves (shrinking the sections) to make space for the giant plastic toys for kids was somehow a better idea; I had the good fortune to speak with some of the staff that work there, and they say that the manga they stock sells like hot-cakes (bit of a money-maker) and doesn't take up any real space for the return on investment. I visit them yesterday to start a new series, find out they have books 2 & 3 (many copies of them, at that), but not book 1. Now how am I supposed to begin what may be a 20 or 40 book experience if you don't have the first book in the series? Just start with book two? How would the LOTR fans feel if you told them that sorry, book one was not available at that location, but book two and three were in stock?

      But this doesn't even touch the computing / programming stuff that is continually in flux...it was nice when B&N had some of the more exotic / relevant stuff in stock, so I could stop by and pick it up immediately. This is usually because when a project needed something, it NEEDED something. Now, I grant you, eBooks have destroyed that need to great degree, but it has been largely helped by B&N's approach to stocking whatever they thought was popular, as opposed to what was popular + needed at 3 AM. Popular sells after the person is in the store, needed gets the person to the store.

      Finally, B&N doesn't use nearly all the space they could use. They could easily fit double-sized book cases inside those stores, but opt for the single-sized ones instead.

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      I am John Hurt.
    4. Re:I thought it was a toy store by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How would the LOTR fans feel if you told them that sorry, book one was not available at that location, but book two and three were in stock?

      To be fair, that may not be B&N's fault. If you read author blogs on the web, you'll find a number saying 'my book series died because by the time I finished book 4 the publisher had let book 1 go out of print and wouldn't reprint it, so sales were dismal. Who's going to start reading a series where the first book is unavailable?'

      Publishing and book selling seems to be a completely brain-dead industry.

    5. Re:I thought it was a toy store by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If they hadn't tried, everyone would be on here claiming they are a "dinosaur" that failed to adapt.

    6. Re:I thought it was a toy store by phantomlord · · Score: 1

      Mine has slowly morphed away from a book/media store as well. It started with focusing on the coffee shop, encouraging people to hang out and have coffee while they read a book - a book they aren't going to buy, but may very well drip their coffee into. I don't even like the smell of coffee, but I'll be damned if I'm going to pay full retail for a used book unless it's something I have to have right away. That's if they even have it now that they've cut down the selection of books to focus on toys and other crap. So, why drive 60 miles round trip to go to the "book" store and have a crappy experience when I can buy it from amazon for under MSRP and get it shipped in 2 days for free?

      I think somewhere, they lost the idea that the core of the business is selling books and other media. The books became a draw to get people in the door to buy coffee and now it just seems to be "throw anything out on the floor that might make money." In general, the Nook was a nod back to that, but the pricing simply isn't that favorable compared to a paper book and combined with the Nook's forced limitations, they left me no compelling reason to buy one or their ebooks.

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      Don't leave your mind so open that your brain falls out. Don't close it so much that you cut off the blood.
    7. Re:I thought it was a toy store by Fencepost · · Score: 2

      Re: "Book 1 is out of print," this is where Baen's approach is (was?) nice. Historically, Baen and the authors would put first books into the library somewhere around the third or fourth book in a series; interestingly this apparently also tended to improve sales of the paperback versions of books so released. Some of this may have changed once they came to their agreement with Amazon to have books available directly for the Kindle, but even there they can price the first book or two way down as preparation for later books in a series.

      Regarding the B&N stores as feeling like toy shops, they've definitely added a variety of games in particular and the books are definitely slanted to "browsable" items - things that you want to look through before purchasing, eye-catching books, etc. The days of going to a bricks & mortar store looking for a book published a few years back (or the first few books of a series) are gone - many people will simply order the items they expect to be less likely to be in stock. In some ways B&N is trying to reinvent itself not just as a bookstore but as a social spot for people who read. I haven't seen one doing a "game night" in the Cafe yet, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it at some point. Come in, try Catan (and variants), then buy them and take them home to play with your family!

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      fencepost
      just a little off
    8. Re:I thought it was a toy store by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      For us, we chose Barnes & Noble to shop over Borders every time because Barnes & Noble had a better area to entertain young children. My wife would watch the kids in the children's area while I picked out some books, then I would watch the kids while she picked out some books. Our local Borders didn't get anything equivalent to less than six months before they went out of business.

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  14. A single tear was shed... by mekkab · · Score: 1

    ...from every mom and pop bookshop (well, at least the ones still in business).

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    In the future, I would want to not be isolated from my friends in the Space Station.
    1. Re:A single tear was shed... by aheath · · Score: 2

      I switched from a Nook to a Kobo to support my local independent bookstore. The bookstore receives a cut of every book that I buy from Kobo.

  15. Barnes & Noble closed the profitable store her by david.emery · · Score: 4, Interesting

    (Reston VA), In part due to contract dispute with the mall owner. But they could have moved into a nice Borders store location about 5 miles away in Sterling VA. Instead, they pointed me to their store in Tyson's Corner, which costs me $5 in tolls and puts me in the middle of a traffic mess. I felt sorry for the Reston store employees and the managers who did a good job with our local store, handing one my B&N Readers Card. I said, "Send this to Corporate. Tell them to look up how much I've spent -in this store- over the last 15 years. Tell them that 95% of that business is going to Amazon, because I will not drive to Tysons and B&N offers me no alternative."

    I really miss browsing in a paper bookstore, Amazon does not offer the same experience (their suggestions aren't as useful for me as they think they are...) The loss of B&N will be significant for consumers, I think. But I'm mostly through the 5 stages of mourning for them.

  16. Book publishers shot themselves by fermion · · Score: 1
    Here is the problem. Publishers jumped in with Amazon on their DRM. This meant is did not matter who made the better eBook reader, who gave the publishers a better deal, most of us were not going to have a bunch of incompatible books. So Anazon has their book reader, and software to allow us to read it on many different devices. Is there a nook app for Kindle? I don't know. But there is a Kindle app for everything else. So Amazon controls the market. And most of the time has the best price. I don't buy so many books though because it is DRM and used books are cheap. I used to buy new books, but I like reading on my kindle, and I don't have to buy books to read later, I can but them as I want them, and knowing they could go away makes me want them les.

    OTOH, because music is DRM free, I can buy it from anyone and play it anywhere, and back it up nicely. So I buy music. Movies are still heavily DRMed like books, and can't just be played, so I tend to buy few of those. DVDs with regions and such killed the movie, really.

    The point being that publishers gave the industry away to Amazon who uses books the way a supermarket uses milk. To drive traffic, not to make a profit. So books are becoming less valuable and, because of DRM, someone like B&N who has an interest in keeping books valuable has no leverage to do so. Yes, lack of DRM would have meant lower sales, but at least there would have still been an industry.

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    "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
  17. It's not JUST the Nook by sehlat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    B&N has been somewhat schizophrenic about eBooks from the beginning, trying desperately to keep up with Amazon on one hand and yet not cannibalize their precious treeware stores. As a result, they've managed to fail at both goals.

    Worse yet, they managed to buy, and then ignore, everything Fictionwise could have taught them about marketing eBooks and doing it right. I was a loyal (and VERY happy) Fictionwise customer for a decade. FW did three things that were absolutely priceless in marketing eBooks to me.

    1. FW let you request email notifications when a new book by a particular author you were interested in was available. Naturally, as soon as I got such a notification...

    B&N is still doing the old "These are the books WE want to sell you." routine with "push" emails and "new now" notices for books I couldn't care less about.

    2. FW (and Books on Board) had a shopping cart for eBooks. Fictionwise had both "buy all of these at once" and "download them all in a ZIP file." My record buy was something like 25 books in one day when one of my favorite authors had all of his stuff released (finally) to eBook format. Fewer obstacles to purchase == more purchases. You'd think an experienced retailer would figure that out.

    B&N: "Click once for each book" crud that both Amazon and B&N impose on readers. The day Paulo Coelho's books were put on sale at $1/each, I had to click "buy" and "confirm" eleven times, and when it came time to balance my credit card account... (cue loud curses)

    3. If you went to an author's page at FW (e.g. Poul Anderson), you got a "show me only books by this author I don't own" and "buy everything that's showing" buttons. See my note about "fewer obstacles" above.

    B&N: MISSING IN ACTION

    4. FW frequently offered the ability to buy eBooks at listed price and get an equal amount in store credit. Result: I frequently took advantage of the offer, got best-sellers at full list, and then used the credits to buy more eBooks. From my standpoint, I got the best-sellers for free, and then used the credits to "buy out" other authors I wanted everything they did.

    B&N: MISSING IN ACTION

    It is a shame that B&N bought the major ebook retailer who knew how to do it right and then ignored everything they had done in order to cripple their eBook store as a doomed effort to force people to walk into their bricks-and-mortar.

    Think of it as evolution in action.

    1. Re:It's not JUST the Nook by game+kid · · Score: 1

      I was a loyal (and VERY happy) Fictionwise customer for a decade. FW did three things that were absolutely priceless in marketing eBooks to me.

      ...and that's why B&N decided to "fix" that.

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      You can hold down the "B" button for continuous firing.
    2. Re:It's not JUST the Nook by sehlat · · Score: 1

      I'm glad you put "fix" in quotes. Trying to force your customers to do what YOU want them to do instead of assisting them in doing what THEY want to do is suicide in the business world. Just ask the MAFIAA.

      To paraphrase Sun Tzu, "Supreme excellence in the art of marketing is getting people to give you their money and making them glad to do it.

    3. Re:It's not JUST the Nook by Ragica · · Score: 1

      Just an FYI on point one, in case you don't know. GoodReads will email you a handy monthly report of all new books by authors you've shown interest in on their site. Their recommendation engine can be helpful also, though it is kind of wonky. All this and they aren't even trying to sell you anything (though they do have links to buy via "partners"... i've never used them.)

    4. Re:It's not JUST the Nook by sehlat · · Score: 1

      Thank you. This is the first time I've heard about that.

    5. Re:It's not JUST the Nook by Paul+Bristow · · Score: 1

      Agree 100%. They did the same to me. Funny, since they closed down Fictionwise I have bought 0 books or magazines from B&N.

      Are there Darwin awards for corporations?

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      - Paul
    6. Re:It's not JUST the Nook by sehlat · · Score: 1

      Are there Darwin awards for corporations?

      Yes. They're called Chapter 11.

    7. Re:It's not JUST the Nook by samwichse · · Score: 1

      I think you mean Chapter 7.

      Sam

    8. Re:It's not JUST the Nook by sehlat · · Score: 1

      Dammit, Jim, I'm a programmer, not a bankruptcy attorney!

      Thank you. I looked it up and yes, Chapter 7 is more appropriate for a Corporate Darwin.

    9. Re:It's not JUST the Nook by sehlat · · Score: 1

      One other note on the topic. When Fictionwise was at the top of its game, I bought about two thousand dollars worth of ebooks from them in one year. Since then, my buying has dropped to less than two hundred .

      There are very few ways to screw up worse than losing 90% of a loyal customer's business.

  18. rise of the digital public library by bzipitidoo · · Score: 2

    Bookstores are dead, and I include in that Amazon's book business. I used to shop regularly at Walden's, B. Dalton's, and all them, pop in once every 2 or 3 weeks. Now I hardly ever visit. These days, I'd rather participate in a discussion such as these on Slashdot, than passively read a book.

    When I do want to read a book, I much prefer to get it through a public library, rather than participate any further in this overly commercialized private bookstore and publishing business. Our public libraries should go digital, and I see the private bookstore as one of the obstacles to that. The digital public library would save us a great deal of money and give us far, far more access to published works than we now enjoy, but these scumbags in the private book sales industry have done all they could to delay and derail it. That being the case, the death of the private bookstore is reason to celebrate.

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    Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
    1. Re:rise of the digital public library by aheath · · Score: 1

      I haven't found anything online that matches the experience of browsing shelves of paper books. I use the web to order books from my local independent bookstore. I use the web to request books from the public library. I always spend time browsing the shelves when I pick up books the bookstore or the library. I often find books by authors that I would never read if I couldn't browse the shelves.

    2. Re:rise of the digital public library by Ragica · · Score: 1

      I check out a lot of ebooks from my library. It's pretty great. The main problem is that libraries don't have the technical ability to serve the books with DRM and whatever licencing agreements are required... so they farm the digital service to a third party. And that third party (Overdrive) is a virtual monopoly source for libraries... every library I know of around the region I live in uses Overdrive ... and have mostly the same books on offer. It's like Overdrive is the Amazon of ebook lending... only with even less competition.

      Besides the technicalities of serving ebooks in an out-moded artificial physical book model (limited numbers of copies available, limited borrowing time), it's probably managing the adobe-controlled DRM (another monopoly) that is the biggest hurdle. I only hope in the future things become saner, and can be more diverse again. Both for publishers & readers... and reading devices.

  19. Nook Failure = Limited tablet market by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's not so much that reading habits are shifting from paper to digital as it is the limited tablet computer market. Apple iPad has a strong foothold in the tablet market. Few people want another tablet to carry around not to mention one that is focused on eReading and not much else.

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    Eternity: will that be smoking, or non-smoking? I Corinthians 6:9-10
  20. bad assumptions, good intentions by intermodal · · Score: 2

    There seems to be a preoccupation in the article description with the idea of having a national bookseller. I'm not sure we actually need one. Personally, I get pretty much all my books either online or from local used bookstores. Even online, I lean towards the used market unless the new copies are (after shipping on the used, since new is usually free shipping) about the same price or less.

    There's a kind of irony to the fact that the book superstores are all losing the fight while the local used shops are pretty much always hubs of activity at the times I visit them. Have publishers retail-priced themselves out of the brick and mortar world, creating a culture where the new-book-buyers go online where volume makes discounting possible, and the used buyers comfortably go either way? It certainly seems that way.

    Nook or no Nook, Barnes & Noble would have been fools to ignore the eBook concept. However, I think they may be making a mistake to pursue the devices any further. It's time to go the razor route. Give the handles away, make your money on the blades. The great thing is, once you've created the "handle", the cost of delivering it to tablets, phones, and computers you didn't have to market or sell is negligible.

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    1. Re:bad assumptions, good intentions by HiThere · · Score: 1

      But do note that if new books stop selling, in a few years there won't be any used book stores.

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      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
    2. Re:bad assumptions, good intentions by intermodal · · Score: 1

      Ah, but new books won't stop selling. People will just stop buying them in brick-and-mortar locations. Which is probably for the best, since the brick-and-mortar-based publisher-distributor-retailer model leads to a lot of books being produced for the sake of availability and then pulped when they don't sell fast enough.

      Amazon, for example, sells all over the place but would only have to have one cache of a particular work. Barnes & Noble has to make sure their network of stores is blanketed with an estimated quantity as well as handling their online orders. It's hard to compete with the simplicity of online-only sales.

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      In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
  21. If somebody is going to cannibalize you by swschrad · · Score: 1

    let it be yourself. -- Steve Jobs.

    B&N apparently assumed that Profit! would automatically appear. Jobs didn't.

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    if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
    1. Re:If somebody is going to cannibalize you by PRMan · · Score: 1

      He stole that from David Packard of HP. Back in the LaserJet/InkJet days, his motto was to "put ourselves out of business every 6 months". And back then, they usually succeeded.

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      Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
  22. E-media is not to blame by betterprimate · · Score: 1

    More than 2/3rds of Americans are obese. Only in compact urban settings do people actually walk (e.g. San Francisco, New York.) Americans also use to read, but no longer. Hell, in the U.S. it is possible to attain a literary-based PhD without having fucking read literature.

    Consider all these factors, books won't make money. I went to the NYPL, one of the greatest books among their library had only been checked out twice in two years.

    No reads anymore. /. is no different. /. loves to revere minor writers like Rand, Orwell, whatever. It says a lot...

    1. Re:E-media is not to blame by idontgno · · Score: 2

      No reads anymore. /. is no different.

      tl;dr

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      Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
    2. Re:E-media is not to blame by betterprimate · · Score: 1

      Omission of a word is often accidental and can be caused by spellcheck.

      Obviously, you took offense. That says more than I am to spend my time explaining.

    3. Re:E-media is not to blame by betterprimate · · Score: 1

      Do you have an intelligent response? Anything to contribute? I would welcome it.

    4. Re:E-media is not to blame by betterprimate · · Score: 1

      Ad hominem == incompetence.

      I will lift up my leg and fart; dismissal. According to your soft science, I am the smartest man alive. I am smarter than your dear Hawkings

      Do you dare challenge me on something I care about! I poke you, little man. With a stick. Like roadkill. Speak you insolent bastard! You rotten flesh!

    5. Re:E-media is not to blame by pregister · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ya think it might have been a joke? The poster decrying how nobody reads and the commenter giving a tl;dr? Maybe? Ya think?

    6. Re:E-media is not to blame by betterprimate · · Score: 1

      +1 Idiot meet idiot.

      You write in broken English; best guess is that you haven't read a single book in your life. That's easy to dismiss if you weren't a troll.

    7. Re:E-media is not to blame by betterprimate · · Score: 1

      The following troll got mod points. No wonder all the intelligent contributers are fleeing /.

  23. Re:Barnes & Noble closed the profitable store by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 2

    Ditto. I find it particularly galling that Manassas still has a B&N but that the Reston area, with higher incomes & education, has none.

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  24. I want a universal e-reader not a brand e-reader by sjwest · · Score: 1

    My last book i bought came from a charity shop as nobody sold it in my region in europe not even the independent book shops. The amazon version on e-reader would have cost me $100 dollars with device, it was cheaper to import the book from a foriegn location. Also as i like to use my lending library that all those elected people love closing down and so i am not buying into e-books. I do have some pdfs with my name and address in as well compliments of the publisher and are horrid to navigate.

    I read a lot. On buying a ereader i am not buying a ereader thing that only works in one shop. As i use linux daily another issue is that drm or reading clients [adobe] are missing but not a problem in apple and windows land.

    An e-reader sounds a great idea until i start shooting holes into the arguments. When i can load books via linux into an ereader, use my library with it and purchase books with it then consider me a customer.

  25. Staying out of both... by irving47 · · Score: 1

    I won't shop in a Barnes & Noble or a Booksamillion anymore because of the constant upselling at the register. If I say no thanks, and I'm not interested even ONCE, I don't need to hear the 60 second speech they have memorized.

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  26. Yeah, installs from alternate locations are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    completely disabled, like an iPad. I almost returned it when I figured that out, but a crippled device for $150 is easier to swallow than a crippled device for $500 (it is possible to use the Android dev kit to install anything on it, but other market app won't be able to install anything). Plus, it is dead simple to replace the B&N mod of Android it runs with Cyanogenmod; it can (apparently) even boot off a microSD card without even a slight risk of bricking the device.

  27. Hooray, They Disrupted Themselves! by dcollins · · Score: 1

    Isn't that what all the MBA's are trying to achieve these days?

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  28. They keep moving or re-moving books. by Krojack · · Score: 1

    I went into the B&N here a few months back. Walked right back to where the computer section has been for years only to find it gone. I looked all over and ended up having to ask some employee. Once found, they didn't even have any HTML5 programming books. The whole computer section was 1/3 the size it use to be. I left thinking, "This place sucks now."

  29. Their Book Selection by betterprimate · · Score: 1

    From my personal account, they don't carry literature. Very few classics do they actually carry. I am talking about simply finding Henry Miller's "Black Spring" or Sherwood Anderson's "Winesburg, Ohio." Most ain't got 'em.

    The best book store I found was in Portland. It was run by an elderly couple below their home. They had hardback covers, decades old, from authors you would only dream to find. They had copies not even the New York Public Library obtains. I found first editions of Hudson's "Green Mansions", John Cowper Powys's "Autobiography", and several other small finds.

    Compare that to an Anderson book in San Francisco; they wanted $2000 for it.

  30. Re:Barnes & Noble closed the profitable store by jandrese · · Score: 1

    Yeah, closing the Reston store--for a goddamn Container Store, who asked for the Container Store?!?--was dumb.

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  31. Device Explosion doomed printed text & images by BoRegardless · · Score: 1

    Just a matter of time before brick and mortar stores get recycled into anti-skid brick sidewalks in upscale malls.

  32. It isn't just the Nook by davmoo · · Score: 1

    The main reason I quit shopping at B&N? Because their in-store stock SUCKS. The whole reason I shop at B&N is because *I want it now*. In many instances I've even been willing to pay a slightly higher store price for that. Almost without fail, even popular books and DVDs/Blu-Rays are not in stock in any store in the Indianapolis area. Its just as bad at the Bloomington store, which you think would be a bit better stocked because its a college town. And considering that the closest B&N to me is about 50 miles one way, I don't go there just to browse.

    I prefer to support brick-and-mortar stores when I can. But I can't do that if they don't have a decent amount of stock.

    And for something that can be blamed on the Nook, have you ever noticed that their online coupons and such do not apply to Nook Books?

    I just bought two Nook HD+ devices during their blowout sale. And the first thing I will do to both of them is turn them in to unadulterated Android tablets.

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  33. I mourn the loss of two technical book stores by peter303 · · Score: 1

    The Denver compputer book store SoftPro ended its storefront this year. The Stanford University bookstore dropped nearly all its wonderful technical books (e.g. Dover series) and just kept textbooks and popular reading books. The old space is filled with souveniers and brand clothing. That parallels what most other universities have down. I miss browsing through the print version of books.

  34. In rememberance of the Antiquarium by HeckRuler · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You all know there's a used bookstore in your town. Go give them some business.

    I grew up in Omaha. Downtown there was a used bookstore with more character than was probably healthy. It had more books then it knew what to to do with, a healthy set of extraneous stairs, an honor system for coffee, and a set of couches in front with a constant crowd. I think the regulars manned the register when the workers were busy.

    But it didn't make too much money and they couldn't make rent. They tried selling records in the basement and some sort of art gallary on the upper levels, but that didn't pan out. So it closed up. And Omaha lost something important that day.

    Now, apparently, a small town about 20 minutes gained something eventually, because the owner bought a building, moved his books there, and is still doing business. I'll have to find out if it has the same magic.

    But anyway, just a reminder to support your local church of the literate.

    1. Re:In rememberance of the Antiquarium by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 1

      Used book stores are generally great for browsing or discovering new things, but when you need a textbook or a specific copy of something, good luck. I love them too, but they don't serve all my needs.

    2. Re:In rememberance of the Antiquarium by kermidge · · Score: 1

      It varies. When I moved to my current city 25 years ago, there were around 50,000 inhabitants and a full-on bookseller, another store selling a goodly range of paperbacks in the front and stroke mags in the back, and two used-book stores. Now, with around 80,000 people, the bookseller has devolved to niche books and bestsellers and lots of kitsch - plush toys, puzzles, coffee and snacks (a nice thing, actually, that last) and weekly meetings of various book clubs; they will still order books, even paperbacks, tho. There are no used-book stores within twenty miles that I know of.

      Perhaps it's part generational and part my love of reading books, but although I look forward to someday affording an e-reader, I vastly prefer a good overstuffed easy chair, hassock, side table for beverage, ashtray and snacks, with a window and good reader's lamp, and a new or favorite paperback book in hand. Even better when there's a duplicate setup for a friend.

    3. Re:In rememberance of the Antiquarium by Nimey · · Score: 1

      Ashtray? ASHTRAY?! Dear Cthulhu, are you one of those uncircumcised Philistines who smokes around innocent books?

      Do you know how long it takes to get the smell out of a used book that a smoker owned?

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    4. Re:In rememberance of the Antiquarium by kermidge · · Score: 1

      Yes. And yes. It stinks. Mea culpa, or something. At the time I intended to keep what I bought, and at the time hadn't considered the rest.

  35. I love my nook... by MrBandersnatch · · Score: 1

    its just a pity that B&N only have about 0.0001% of the available books (i,e. of those that have been electronically published in any format) available through their store, and what they do have are vastly overpriced. I'd still rather own a paper copy of a book and pop it on my bookshelves, but at the same time I would love to be able to start reading an e-version immediately hence my last book purchase went through amazon and the errmmm less than kosher e-version onto my nook while the physical ones arrived.

    I wouldn't have minded paying a (small) premium for that, even though I think it should be done by default. I wouldn't have minded buying the e-version if the price reflected the significant savings of not having the expenses of physically distributing the books to retailers, the retailers mark up, the printing costs, the warehousing costs etc. etc.....but in the end, the paper copy was cheaper than the e-version!

    It's sad really...all the out of print books that exist, all the various opportunities to innovate and instead we see companies driving themselves to the wall from greed.

  36. Clearly you don't have kids. by sconeu · · Score: 1

    Can't you just pick up the stroller and carry it up a few stairs?

    Two words: Stroller collapse.

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    1. Re:Clearly you don't have kids. by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Hmm, that sounds like a crappy design.

    2. Re:Clearly you don't have kids. by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      No, that's still a crappy design. I get that the thing is supposed to be collapsable, but things that can be folded up like that are supposed to be designed so that they fold up only when you want them too, such as by flipping a lever. When they're erected, they're supposed to stay that way, especially if they have people inside them! If a stroller is supposed to be for carting kids around, it shouldn't collapse as soon as a little upward force is placed on it; it should stay that way, even if you pick it up with the kid inside, until you activate some kind of release mechanism to make it fold up.

    3. Re:Clearly you don't have kids. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Indeed, it is typical for strollers which can collapse and trap your child when picked up to be recalled. I get the notifications of recalls from the CPSC...

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  37. Re:Barnes & Noble closed the profitable store by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

    There's one in fairfax, near fair oaks mall. I miss Borders, though.

  38. Re:I want a universal e-reader not a brand e-reade by aheath · · Score: 1

    I bought a Kobo last weekend. I mostly use Mac OS and Windows. Kobo doesn't have a version of Kobo Desktop for Linux but a quick Google search suggest that the Kobo can be used with Linux. Now I have a project for this weekend ....

  39. Re:I save my foot traffic for the small independen by aheath · · Score: 1

    I start with my local independent bookstore. Then I try my local independent used bookstore. If I can't find what I want at either store then I will order books from Alibris. I tend to use Alibris when I want to buy a book that hasn't been released in the US. This is why I can read Iain Banks and Jo Nesbo before the US release date.

  40. What I found w/ BandN by solune · · Score: 1
    Crap, crap, crap.

    I first got the nook Glow over Kindle because I wanted to be able to root it and run the other android e-reader ware.

    What I found was a clunky POS;

    The dictionary sucked. B&N forgot that readers like dictionaries, and would like to get to them whenever. Through nook you had to go through the rigamarole of highlighting a word in a work just to get there.

    With the capability to add a MicroSD card (what I also liked), you'd think they'd have an audio jack for audio books. Nope. Load your own screen savers? Nope.

    My experience is the Nook was as anti-reader as they come. I was really shocked. The board at B&N likely looked to glom onto the "next big thing" instead of figuring out what it was that readers would want from an e-reader. As cheap as these things are, here's a clue: TO BE ABLE TO READ IN THE TUB!

    Seriously—if they had it made it more durable and more comfortable to take to the beach, they would have had something. Instead, they focused on being an also-ran.

    1. Re:What I found w/ BandN by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      With the capability to add a MicroSD card (what I also liked), you'd think they'd have an audio jack for audio books. Nope. Load your own screen savers? Nope.

      You can load your own screen savers on a Nook (on the e-ink ones, at least; I can't speak for the tablets). You just make a new directory in the folder that includes all the built-in screen savers, name the directory what you want your screen saver to be called, and load it with as many images as you like. The Nook will rotate through them.

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  41. Re:WARNING!!! GOATSE!!! by the+simurgh · · Score: 2

    all i get is an eagle shredding a book with a vulgar phrase. and the reason now one buys books is why should we pay 20 to thirty bucks for a physical copy when they charge way less than that for digital or for the same physical copy on amazon. my problem with barnes and nobel is if i have to buy a book for 45 from barnes and nobel and 27 on amazon since i already have to pay taxes on amazon purchases why not buy from amazon. you want people to buy your books instore? then price match amazon.

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  43. This is a sort-of strange analysis by PCM2 · · Score: 1

    TFA says "Management is clearly focused on salvaging Nook operations rather than trying to make a go of it with the stores" and "B&N's disastrous focus on making Nook e-Readers is weighing heavily on the chain's operations."

    Did they not get the memo today that B&N is discontinuing its whole color tablet line and that future color devices will only be sold as co-branded products manufactured by other companies? You read that right, B&N is no longer going to manufacture any tablets. It's going to continue to produce e-ink devices, but that's it. That whole "cannibalizing itself with branded tablets" angle they're whinging about is a dead end, as of today.

    Second, how is the fact that the Nook apps are cross-platform making B&N's stores irrelevant? If the Nook apps didn't exist, wouldn't it just be the Kindle apps that are making B&N stores irrelevant, and B&N would have no slice of the ebook pie whatsoever?

    Also, let's maintain a little perspective here. B&N's total revenue from the Nook division in fiscal 2013 was $776 million. Its revenue from its retail division was $4.6 billion. Are we really expected to believe that B&N execs are actually ignoring the retail business in favor of Nook? That just sounds like some absurd, "activist investor" fantasy.

    B&N is struggling, sure. But it faces fairly serious market challenges. It had no chance at competing with Amazon in the ebook market without making a serious investment in both hardware and software. Has it made some missteps? It seems so, but to say they'll be impossible to retreat from seems a little premature.

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  44. damned proprietary connector by dltaylor · · Score: 1

    I looked forward to the HD and HD+ for months, 'cause my Color was exactly what I wanted in a "that-generation" tablet, including a standard USB charging and data port. The browser works pretty well and I can access a webmail account through https; it shows my pictures, and, when I tried it, plays music and videos. If the new devices also had standard connectors (preferably USB3, as well). I'd have at least three.

    Instead, I'll scrounge used, running Colors, since there's not a single device I can find that has the features I want (standard connector for using it as a USB device, raised bezel to protect the screen, later version of Android, standard removable card for storage, no camera needed, HDMI out a don't-care).

  45. Re:dull witted, slow, restrictive, constricting by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    Okay, let's see...

    Borders lost the "chicken bluff game" and folded "early".

    But this site is semi specialized in Int. Prop. issues, yet you know what? Now it seems *both* big chains had all the cash in the world, but couldn't get Print On Demand to work?! That would completely eat Amazon's lunch!

    The stuff on the shelves would just be the starter samplers, to get you quick access to the classics in each section. But then make say 70% (non-oversized etc) of the inventory Print On Demand. I'd wait up to an hour - that's easy to burn browing, or dinner, or whatever. With a little work you can get it down to 15 minutes.

    But no. If you think IP rights for music is bad, the media houses have successfully blocked POD from happening for reasons known only to them.

    The tech is there - *three years ago* I got some sample POD books in Harvard Square bookstore. Yes they didn't have the cover art rights. But the paperbacks were as solid as any tome printed the old way.

    So now I'm just grumpy because we're getting tangled into the e-reader device mess that seems to be becoming strip-mined real fast.

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  46. E-books and a defunct retailer? by bcreane · · Score: 2

    Anyone care to speculate on what happens to all the e-books that B&N has sold if/when they go under? I know I don't "own" the books, rather I purchased some sort of licensing agreement which lets me view the books until ... when?

    This is a huge and not often discussed down-side to e-books. Our first nook died a few weeks ago, I'll probably avoid purchasing another one for just this reason.

    1. Re:E-books and a defunct retailer? by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

      Download everything to your computer and archive it yourself.

  47. Fuck! B&N Too? by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

    First B&N and Borders gobbled up the bookstore market. Then B&N and Google killed off Borders. Now B&N may be going down, leaving Google with a near monopoly in the book market and no local stores I can browse. Fuckety fuck fuck fuck.

  48. a thought: by buddyglass · · Score: 1

    How big is the variance in profitability by store? That is to say, how much ground could B&N recover by simply closing all its unprofitable (or marginally profitable) locations? It would lose some economy of scale, but how much? Also curious to what extent Wal-Mart (and to a lesser extent Costco and Sam's) are to blame for B&N's troubles and not of Amazon. For instance, how has Wal-Mart's revenue (from books) changed over this same period?

  49. Re:dull witted, slow, restrictive, constricting by 0123456 · · Score: 1

    You realise that Amazon owns Createspace, which is one of the largest PoD suppliers in the world right now?

  50. Gosh, I hope not by mitcheli · · Score: 1

    My wife and I like getting some coffee while we thumb through books and figure out which ones we want to buy on our nooks. Borders was a blow, to loose B&N too would shut down our abilities to do that.

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  51. Fictionwise by Paul+Bristow · · Score: 1

    B&N bought Fictionwise - a great E-Book web store that sold DRM-free electronic subscriptions. I subscribed to Asimovs Sci-Fi magazine for >10 years there, reading it in Palm (originally), EPUB and PDF formats. I bought hundreds of books as well. A year after buying it, B&N closed it down, and said I had to transfer to their DRM'd formats.

    Now I don't buy anything from them. Idiots.

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  52. Re:WARNING!!! GOATSE!!! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    If you want to browse a physical book store then you have to be willing to pay a premium. 45 vs 27 (USD?) is extreme but physical stores will never be as cheap as online warehouses.

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  53. Too Bad by willy+everlearn · · Score: 1

    I love my Nook.

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  54. Re:dull witted, slow, restrictive, constricting by alexgieg · · Score: 1

    So now I'm just grumpy because we're getting tangled into the e-reader device mess that seems to be becoming strip-mined real fast.

    B&N allowed Amazon to win. I've been an ebook purchaser since the early 2000's on both eReader and Fictionwise. Eventually Fictionwise purchased eReader, but the merged store continued to be a good place to get ebooks into multiple formats, until B&N purchased Fictionwise, let it languish for years, then finally gave the fingers to international customers like myself by not allowing us to transfer our accounts to the B&N website when they decided to close Fictionwise. I lost my account and my redownload rights to everything I purchased there, having to rely on local and cloud backups now.

    Amazon, on the other hand, while still having geographically restricted titles what pisses me to no end, has however from the beginning been consistently internationally-friendly when it comes to ebooks. Not so much on other media, truth be told, but I don't care much about that. They did what old-Fictionwise and/or B&N-owned-Fictionwise could have done but didn't. And now, while Amazon grows, including internationally (e-Ink Kindles are now being officially sold here in Brazil), B&N shrinks.

    It could have been different, but B&N was too dumb to think straight. And as a former international customer of theirs, all I can say is good riddance. To hell with them.

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  55. Re:Barnes & Noble closed the profitable store by wiredog · · Score: 1

    costs me $5 in tolls
    Or you could drive down Rt 7.

  56. As a Nook owner by mu51c10rd · · Score: 1

    The Nook Tablet was the last Nook I purchased. I owned the first generation and a Simple Touch. However, I vowed not to buy another Nook again. Their walled garden approach and quick support cycle (expect updates for roughly 6 months and then your device is EOL) were ridiculous. Their layout and hardware specs were fantastic. The SD card slot was fantastic...and hard to find on lower end Android tablets. However, they shot themselves in the foot by preventing sideloading and refusing to use Google Play. The B&N forums are full of threads of people complaining and refusing to buy another Nook. That was a poor decision. I see the current fire sale of Nooks, and while tempting (because they allow Google Play), I don't think I can buy another Nook in good conscience.

  57. Amazon VS others by phorm · · Score: 1

    Around here, we don't have any B&N stores, so the main competitors were Chapters (Kobo + physical store/books) and Amazon (Kindle, or internet-order).

    Frankly, I'm fairly disgusted with the price of books in Canada. The mark-up over U.S. prices is usually at least 20%, often higher, even when the Canadian dollar was higher.
    Amazon - on the other hand - allows me to shop both the U.S. and Canadian store, meaning I could get U.S. prices and just pay the conversion/exchange rate. While many e-book prices still suck compared to their physical counterparts, you'll still find some things with crazy prices in physical medium compared to eBook (for example Joe Abercrombie's "First Law" trilogy. $15 for the dead-tree version at local bookstores, or $22 for all three on Kindle.
    On the Nook store you won't see ANY of that series, Chapters is either $38 or $25 (I can't tell which because they seem to have the same damn thing twice,

    In general, Amazon tends to work well in terms of convenience, price, and selection compared to the competitors.

  58. Lack of foot traffic... by whitroth · · Score: 1

    a) I'm not getting an "e-reader" until I have *TOTAL* control - NO ONE ELSE gets to download, or DELETE, what I have *bought* (NOT licensed, not rented).
    b) Foot traffic. The problem is that B&N *really* isn't paying attention to their core business... selling books and mags. A few years ago, right outside Chicago, I went into the one nearest me.
                a) they hadn't changed the "newest" mystery books in months.
                b) they hadn't changed the "newest" science fiction books in months.
                c) it was October, and they didn't even list the Hugo winner in their system.
                d) the one and only copy of Model Railroader they had was supposed to have been taken off the stand 10 days before.

    Those are far enough a spread of different areas to say that they just didn't care. I've run into similar things here in the DC 'burbs. Borders, before they went under, the "newest" section was *always* updated every month, and *always* had the current issues of magazines. This is not how you run a business... unless you care to run it into the ground.

    *That's* why they don't have enough foot traffic.

                        mark

  59. Synergy betweeen paper and ebook by hendrikboom · · Score: 1

    Go to a bookstore. Browse to your heart's content. No one worries that you're secretly making copies while you browse. You can read any page you like. You're not limited to reading the first eight pages, which contain only front matter. Pick the books you'd like to read. Take them to the cashier. Tell them you'd like toe ebook version and hand over your ebook reader and some cash. They plug it in, and Lo, the book appears on your machine.

    Why doesn't anyone think of doing it this way? I'd even pay a premium for the service of being able to browse freely while choosing what I want to buy.

  60. Sad news. by MelGardner · · Score: 1

    Kindle fan here. Still makes me sad that another book company might go the way of Borders.