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NSA Recruitment Drive Goes Horribly Wrong
An anonymous reader writes "The Guardian is running a story about a recent recruitment session held by the NSA and attended by students from the University of Wisconsin which had an unexpected outcome for the recruiters. 'Attending the session was Madiha R Tahir, a journalist studying a language course at the university. She asked the squirming recruiters a few uncomfortable questions about the activities of NSA: which countries the agency considers to be 'adversaries', and if being a good liar is a qualification for getting a job at the NSA.' Following her, others students started to put NSA employees under fire too. A recording of the session is available on Tahir's blog."
Then the answer to question #2 is no. Also, the answer to question #1 is all of the above.
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He's going the distance! He's going for frosty! He's ... all his packets getting latented by NSA wiretaps!!!!
They get "targets" handed down, and don't decide who is an "adversary."
So we are all targets.
Great.
In this crap economy, organizations recruiting college younglings with no real-world experience are a very rare sight.
Yet, these dumb rich spoiled kids blew any employment opportunity they potentially had by hating the NSA, since it's the latest cool and hip thing to do.
If you want terrorism to stop, then just don't participate in it.
The same exact thing applies to NSA and all other government terrorist organisations.
You can't handle the truth.
These are people doing a job. You might not like it, but don't start attacking them. That's like targeting cops just because they're cops.
PS: I don't reply to ACs.
No surprises there. The University of Wisconsin has long been a center of "progressive" activism. That they would be hostile to American national security organizations is to be expected.
I wonder if she made a special trip to be there?
Madiha R. Tahir is a freelance journalist based in Pakistan.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Man! These guys really know how to milk a story.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
I'm wondering why the recruiters didn't stop right there and wait for a question within the context of their purpose for being on the campus. I know college is a place to explore and have liberal discussion, but this looks like the childish behavior I'd expect when reading article comments on CNN.
This is why the government seems secretive and not forthcoming with information. The media just tries to tear apart anything said and puts people that have no business of being on the record for an event they have nothing to do with in the public eye. There recruiters were not upper level decision makers, just folks trying to do their job.
Disclaimer: I'm also a low-level non-decision maker government employee.
The NSA does not tell complete lies. All is well. We can sleep sound knowing the NSA doesn't tell complete lies.
It's the politicians who are responsible for this mess. And that includes both the Obama and the Bush administration.
Having worked at several of the big-5 agencies (NSA included) I can attest to the fact that their HR organizations are pretty inept. They are so focused on EO and diversity that they really have no staff who know the trade craft that they are recruiting against nor even people who can simply think on their feet. For a potential recruit to act in any way other than honored to be speaking to a recruiter in the intelligence community and awestruck at the very thought of getting said job would totally derail them. I'd have loved to have been a fly on the wall.
For an EA recruitment session at Imperial College, a fresher asked the Q&A guy "In C&C or Red Alert, what are players supposed to think of Muslims when you portray them as suicide bombers in your game?" Everybody clapped and cheered the young lad.And that was in 2006 I think.
FUCK. DA. POLICE.
But here I make an exception. This reaction is so below all levels of courtesy and common sense. If this young woman has the brains to do language studies, she has definitely more brains than you, Mr. Coward & Anonymous. You are a shame to your country, that is what you are. There SHOULD be rules, here on /., to flag certain comments.
Gosh.
PS Can parent please be modded down into oblivion ?
Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
I wonder if it's the /. effect, or if that's just what we're supposed to think. Not bothering to post anonymous because they'd find me anyway. =), I mean =| <SIGNAL HIJACKED> I mean =)) I'm so happy to be protected by your watchful eyes, NSA!
It should be illegal to say that freedom of speech should be limited.
being a good liar is a good skill to be a spy / uncover guy.
A recording of the session is available on Tahir's blog.
It would probably make more sense to link to the blog post instead of the main blog page so people can actually find the recording in the future after new blog posts are added.
I've visited the "blog" but I can't find any link for the "audio file". Has anyone found it? Anyone have the link?
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Look at the people in the Guardian's photo: they hold up a sign of Snowden, write "HERO" across it, and then use the Obama logo for the "O"? How stupid and partisan can you get? Not only is Obama fully responsible for the current NSA actions and keeping them secret, he lied during his campaign when he promised to end such abuses.
You are a fucking retard and I'm tired of this excuse. These people are paid by YOUR TAX DOLLARS just like cops and should definitely answer any question put forward - especially if one wants to work there too.
NSA: "I'm sorry I can't answer that question honestly"
Me: fuck you I'm working somewhere else then, I don't want to work for a bunch of dishonest self-serving fagots.
Look at all those upstanding young people who did this wonderful thing that will have no consequence whatsoever. Don't you have faith in the people?
The NSA is wiping their ass with the U.S. Constitution again.
A recent article in CNN outlines why there is little in the US Media regarding Eric Snowden and the NSA Prism program--the NSA is literally threatening journalists with prosecution for espionage for doing their jobs.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/03/opinion/snepp-journalists-espionage/index.html?hpt=us_mid
We are sliding down that slippery slope fast, folks. I honestly feel the next few months will determine whether or not our Constitution remains viable as a means to protect basic human rights. Help the press help us--tell as many people as you can about this article and the serious repercussions the article outlines. These are not potential repercussions--this is happening folks. A near-complete lack of articles in main-stream media about the Prism program and Snowden is all the evidence I need to come to that conclusion.
But in reality I don't. They're upset at the wrong people and it shows just how clueless they are. Sure, we're all pissed off about the spying programs. Making it tough on recruiters may be fun, and even humorous, but in the end does absolutely nothing. They people responsible are those these students voted into office (if they voted). The real outrage should be at our elected representatives. Go to their town halls and make THEM squirm. Better yet, vote them all out of office and vote in people worth while. Obama, nor just about any of the current representatives, are not trustworthy. It's pretty clear these students don't understand that. I sadly wonder if the voting populace as a whole even understands.
What's her next target for hard-hitting investigative journalism? Interrogating the WalMart cashier about the sleazy business practices of the corporation? How about cornering the burger-flipper at McDonald's over his/her complicity in contributing to the nationwide obesity epidemic?
That's just what we need: more up-and-coming journalists that pick the low-hanging fruit and pretend that it's a raw, career-making scoop.
Good Will Hunting
Skimmed and didn't see anybody else posting it. Kinda surprising.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
The NSA is doing what it must. If you keyboard warriors had it your way, remember this the next time you get bombed by al-Qaeda.
I find that being a good liar helps you are everything, not just spying. I do not want to tut my own horn, but I am an amazing liar. I'm so good half the times I'm not even sure if I am lying or if I actually believe what I am saying.
This little girl is a tad naive me thinks - Charles deGaulle, "France has no friends, only interests."
We are a nation of laws, not men. If you don't agree with the actions of a governmental organization then you need to lobby your governmental representatives with your views.
You also need to accept that your views might not be the majority and that, to some extent, we're a country of majority rule.
Freedom does not depend on majority rule. In fact, it frequently stands against it. That's what the "tyranny of the majority" means.
Desegregation was unpopular. Interracial marriage was unpopular. Letting groups like the KKK and Communists have speak their minds was unpopular. Burning draft cards was unpopular, and burning the flag in protest still is. Keeping church out of state is unpopular. The right to marry whoever and however many people you want is unpopular.
Interring Japanese and German citizens during WW2 was popular. Laws requiring everyone to salute the flag regardless of minority religious belief were (and still are) popular. Prohibition was popular -- at first. Racially restrictive housing covenants were popular in the communities that "benefited" from them.
If polls today show that a slim majority support the NSA spying on us, then remember that equivalent numbers sat out the revolutionary war or actively aided the British. The majority is not always right. The majority does not always stand for real freedom -- all they want is the freedom to keep living their narrowly-focused, myopic lives in the same day to day way that they currently do, and to hell with everyone else.
I think most Americans would gladly vote in a dictator if that dictator established that everyone had to live the way that they think people should, if they called it the "freedom" to do so. History is filled with peoples who chose to do just that.
If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
"Don't tase me bro!"
Seriously, everyone go listen to the recording. That is some hardcore, no bullshit Q&A. Er, well, the Q's were. The NSA stooges spent the whole time beating around the bush and using their native tongue of Orwellian doublespeak with every non-answer they gave.
The NSA are "doing their jobs" in exactly the same way the the Stasi were.
And the NSAs job is to be "an instrument of totalitarian rule" just like the Stasi were.
Don't they already have everybody's resumés in their files? Can't they just send letters to their selected candidates, saying, "Greetings, You have been selected to work for the NSA. Contact us at ______ to begin collecting your paychecks. Note: Information that you are now an NSA employee has been posted on your social media pages, so, of course, no one else is ever going to hire you..."
I can afford the karma, so listen up: If you take exception with one of the words I used in the parent post, please ask for an explanation, and I'll try to explain it to you with very short words.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
The natural order of affairs in the world is that the Mighty will rule the rest. Just like Tiger->Deer population control, the rest will eventually rise(yes economy ultimately translates to food) and put Democracy in place but the gravity of the natural order will pull back and restore tyranny. Pendulum will swing again. This is what Newton's law tries to tell us. Action -> Equal and "opposite" reaction - Evolution of Democracy -> Devolution of Democracry > ED > DV > ....
No amount of whistle blowing etc.. can slow down the Devolution part. Everything is natural. Nature is unimaginably powerful. It is arrogance that makes us believe that we can make an impact, save earth, do good, democracy etc... , Nature will ultimately make you realize it is all futile. You are born to have fun. As per Newton's law Fun's equal and opposite.. Misery!, so unless some have misery how can some have fun? If everyone on earth had 20 bucks then who will be rich and who will be poor. Economy stalls. Equality means, no activity that is death like a still pond. Throw a stone and you will have creation, creation of waves, fun. Action is disturbance - result is fun.. In fact in nature there is no such thing as good or bad, it is human perception, a win for me is loss for someone else. Breathing is good for me but bad for many who(micro organism) will die because of me breathing. We don't care about them(micro o) but for nature they are as important or as useless as we are.
There are too many circular or cyclical order of things around us as evidence that nothing goes in a straight line forever. In the larger picture or long run everything is circular err. spherical. And everything needs the other for their existence. Cops need crooks for the cops to exist and vice versa.
Seriously, this is just like campus in 1968 - mid 70s.
I appreciate P&T for their candor and honesty... but they are also evangelical atheists. I haven't seen all their episodes, but I've seen them cover religion a number of times... always unfairly (they find the stupid guy with a fancy degree to interview and mock). If they have ever said anything about Mrs Theresa, I'd take it with more than a grain of salt. (Yes, I'm religious. No, I'm not Catholic.)
I don't know if the criticisms against her are fair or not, but I do know that many good people have had mud unfairly slung at them because they're religious, to destroy their credibility. It's happened many times before, and it will yet happen again and again.
The leaders of the NSA will be in hysterics over this story, and the recording. Far from damaging their recruitment drive, such activity massively enhances their efforts. The NSA wants amoral vicious idiots with a serious chip on their shoulder. They certainly don't expect to recruit decent normal people.
History is your friend. Look at an authoritarian police-state regime that engaged in massive acts of spying and aggressive warfare. The USA simply follows a pattern laid down many thousands of years ago. Technology has changed, but Human nature has not.
The type of kid that might otherwise have shot up his school makes an excellent NSA recruit if he is intelligent and bothers to get a decent education. The kid that tortures small animals, or the one that spreads vindictive false rumours around school for amusement can also grow up and make ideal NSA employees. When these vile anti-social types hear a recording like the one here, they are far more likely to think that the NSA would be a good place to seek a career.
Most evil isn't an organised conspiracy in a simple sense. It is an invitation to highly disturbed individuals to join a team, so they can show the rest of us who really has the power is society. NSA personnel are bitter and twisted people who know full well the harm they do. They are not horrified by the total surveillance they help put the population of the US under- they glory in it.
Many of them are serious sexual perverts too. The Xbox One gives the NSA the ability to immediately start streaming sound and video from ANY console that is currently connected to the Internet. The Kinect system can actually alert NSA servers when the pattern of Human movement in from of the console sensor indicates sexual activity is taking place. If you think hundreds of NSA people are not drooling at the prospect of peeking into the homes of millions of Americans once Microsoft roles out its NSA designed spy platform, you are a naive simple-minded fool. Even your president, Clinton, stated that it was worth risking EVERYTHING in order to enjoy the sexual thrill of pushing a cigar into the private parts of his 'partner' during their love making session in the Oval Office. That is what the call of sexual perversion means to these people.
These people are bad in every sense of the word, from the petty and pathetic to the genocidal. Previous regimes saw the same pattern of power abuse, from the trivial to the outrageously massive. For these people, all forms of abuse of power give them a thrill.
The president has constitutionally-granted authority over of the armed forces. We have a legal draft. Combine those two things, and ergo, it is within generally-accepted powers for the president to be able to label you a Designated Terroree, such that you're required to be afraid whenever told to, if people being afraid is believed to be militarily advantageous.
OTOH, the Third Amendment means that you don't have to be afraid whenever you're at home. So the president's legal powers over your emotions are limited, somewhat.
As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
relates to your point; from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_enforcement
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Selective enforcement is the ability that executors of the law (such as police officers or administrative agencies, in some cases) have to arbitrarily select choice individuals as being outside of the law. The use of enforcement discretion in an arbitrary way is referred to as selective enforcement or selective prosecution.
Historically, selective enforcement is recognized as a sign of tyranny, and an abuse of power, because it violates rule of law, allowing men to apply justice only when they choose.[citation needed] Aside from this being inherently unjust, it almost inevitably must lead to favoritism and extortion, with those empowered to choose being able to help their friends, take bribes, and threaten those from whom they desire favors.
However, the converse can also be true. Police officer discretion is sometimes warranted for minor offenses,[citation needed] for instance where a warning to a teenager could be quite effective without putting the teen through a legal process and also reduces costs of governmental legal resources. Another example is patrol officers parked on the side of a highway for speed enforcement. It may be impractical and cost prohibitive to ticket everyone who is going any amount over the speed limit, so the officer should watch for the more egregious cases and those drivers who are showing signs of driving recklessly.
Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356 (1886),[1] was the first case where the United States Supreme Court ruled that a law that is race-neutral on its face, but is administered in a prejudicial manner, is an infringement of the Equal Protection Clause in the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/russiansecurity.asp
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
Think of Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses getting door after door slammed in their face, or getting laughed at, or challenged. Is that really likely to make them leave their tight knit social circle related to their professed faith? Look what happens to them when they do, by analogy with this Christian missionary who lost his job and family after being deconverted by the tribe he went to "help":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr3q6Cid1po
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Everett#Don.27t_Sleep.2C_There_Are_Snakes:_Life_and_Language_in_the_Amazonian_Jungle
"Influenced by the Pirahã's concept of truth, his belief in Christianity slowly diminished and he became an atheist. He says that he was having serious doubts by 1982, and had lost all faith by 1985. He would not tell anyone about his atheism until the late 90s;[9] when he finally did, his marriage ended in divorce and two of his three children broke off all contact. However, by 2008 full contact and relations have been restored with his children, who now seem to accept his viewpoint on theism.[10]"
90% of jobs are probably either useless of harmful these days. There are not enough for everyone as long as people need jobs to get income to survive, absent deeper changes:
http://www.whywork.org/rethinking/whywork/abolition.html
http://pdfernhout.net/beyond-a-jobless-recovery-knol.html
I kind of cringed reading that back and forth on the blog with the recruiters the same way I do when watching a "Yes Men" action. Such narrow challenges rarely address the fundamental deep issues, like I tried to do here:
http://www.pdfernhout.net/on-dealing-with-social-hurricanes.html
"This approximately 60 page document is a ramble about ways to ensure the CIA (as well as other big organizations) remains (or becomes) accountable to human needs and the needs of healthy, prosperous, joyful, secure, educated communities. The primarily suggestion is to encourage a paradigm shift away from scarcity thinking & competition thinking towards abundance thinking & cooperation thinking within the CIA and other organizations. I suggest that shift could be encouraged in part by providing publicly accessible free "intelligence" tools and other publicly accessible free information that all people (including in the CIA and elsewhere) can, if they want, use to better connect the dots about global issues and see those issues from multiple perspectives, to provide a better context for providing broad policy advice. It links that effort to bigger efforts to transform our global society into a place that works well for (almost) everyone that millions of people are engaged in. A central Haudenosaunee story-related theme is the transformation of Tadodaho through the efforts of the Peacemaker from someone who was evil and hurtful to someone who was good and helpful."
Or here:
http://www.pdfernhout.net/recognizing-irony-is-a-key-to-transcending-militarism.html
"Likewise, even United States three-letter agencies like the NSA and the CIA, as well as their foreign counterparts, are becoming ironic institutions in many ways. Despite probably having more computing power per square foot than any other place in the world, they seem not to have thought much about the implications of all that computer power and organized information to transform the world into a place of abundance for all."
There were some easy answers th
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
OTOH, the Third Amendment means that you don't have to be afraid whenever you're at home.
You mean because there will not be any soldiers living there with you? That could be kind of scary.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
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You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.
TL,DR: You think everybody should be like you, and you are wrong. Grow up, why doncha!
Hmmm. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Given recent events, the NSA absolutely had to know this was coming. It doesn't take a massive datacenter combing through the personal lives of every US citizen to realize that the populace is a bit upset with their actions. It also doesn't take a SPECTRE meeting to figure out that college students are among the most vocal subset, especially in the category of personal liberties.
Given the obvious outcome of sending NSA recruiters to a college campus, and the complete unpreparedness of the recruiters for that obvious outcome, I can only conclude that the whole thing is a stunt to paint the NSA as somewhat ineffective in the public eye, so that they can fade back into obscurity and continue their illegal monitoring. (do I win "run on sentence of the week?"). Really, the only part of this I would still question, is whether or not the recruiters were in on the ruse, or unwittingly hung out as public sacrifice.
This signature is false.
Statistically, the majority are very rarely insightful or right.
The trend-setting few, both extrovert and introvert personalities, are "right".
When the majority supports a new trend, what is "truly right" changes right then and there in order to support a new level of paradigm, because even though the majority supports "a good cause", they are never really insightful and end up perverting and hurting the very cause they want to identify with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOZllbNarw
I believe Matt Damon, as Will Hunting, said it best!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOZllbNarw
I believe Matt Damon, as Will Hunting, said it best!
Qualifications:
- Being a great liar
- Doing what you're told
- Not questioning authority
- Strung on by new rushes of power
- Total lack of empathy and conscience, while retaining the ability to use such for personal gains
- Total disregard of consequences to others
These are great personalitytraits we look in our recruits.
With All The Love,
The NSA
Captcha: ideally
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199710--.htm
"The universities, for example, are not independent institutions. There may be independent people scattered around in them but that is true of the media as well. And it's generally true of corporations. It's true of Fascist states, for that matter. But the institution itself is parasitic. It's dependent on outside sources of support and those sources of support, such as private wealth, big corporations with grants, and the government (which is so closely interlinked with corporate power you can barely distinguish them), they are essentially what the universities are in the middle of. People within them, who don't adjust to that structure, who don't accept it and internalize it (you can't really work with it unless you internalize it, and believe it); people who don't do that are likely to be weeded out along the way, starting from kindergarten, all the way up. There are all sorts of filtering devices to get rid of people who are a pain in the neck and think independently. Those of you who have been through college know that the educational system is very highly geared to rewarding conformity and obedience; if you don't do that, you are a troublemaker. So, it is kind of a filtering device which ends up with people who really honestly (they aren't lying) internalize the framework of belief and attitudes of the surrounding power system in the society. The elite institutions like, say, Harvard and Princeton and the small upscale colleges, for example, are very much geared to socialization. If you go through a place like Harvard, most of what goes on there is teaching manners; how to behave like a member of the upper classes, how to think the right thoughts, and so on."
See also: http://disciplinedminds.tripod.com/
"The hidden root of much career dissatisfaction, argues Schmidt, is the professionalâ(TM)s lack of control over the political component of his or her creative work. Many professionals set out to make a contribution to society and add meaning to their lives. Yet our system of professional education and employment abusively inculcates an acceptance of politically subordinate roles in which professionals typically do not make a significant difference, undermining the creative potential of individuals, organizations and even democracy."
And in recent history in relation to the run up to the Iraq war: http://fair.org/press-release/some-critical-media-voices-face-censorship/
How could it be different? Seriously, as a question, can people suggest alternatives? I've suggested some things elsewhere in terms of rethinking security and in my sig. How can things be different while still preserving current security?
The argument that this surveillance apparatus may fall into the hands of "bad people" is still (mostly) an argument about the future, so it has less weight if people can't see how to feel reasonably secure now. I'd like to see a lot more playing around with ideas about potential alternatives to keep the USA secure and healthy in the face of the fact that technology allows individuals and small groups to do ever more damage to the whole.... From a 2007 slashdot post by an AC:
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=261555&cid=20127487
"Ben Bova, a major science fiction writer, has a proposed answer to the Fermi Paradox that startw with one of the side-effects of general technological advancement: The average person (of any intelligent species) acquires more and more power to do things. Well, on Earth it is well known that not all persons are emotionally stable, even as adults. Why should an assumption of stability be made for other worlds? Remember that if there is a technological cure for insanity, it is beyond our current technology, and it is
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
Terrorism seeks to change behavior based on fear of imminent danger. You can't get any more personal than that. And that's why it is directly at odds with a civilized democracy.
The USA got rid of that old fashioned Magna Carta stuff. Nixon, North, Poindexter, Scooter Libby and a pile of others were declared to be above the law, then there's the ones that never went to trial.
I can imagine the interview process: ``Answer as truthfully as possible: Are you a good lier?''
"If anything can go wrong, it will." - Murphy
Snowden for President. Can't be any worse then the last two douchbags.
If you want terrorism to stop, then just don't participate in it.
The same exact thing applies to NSA and all other government terrorist organisations.
The NSA seems like a horrible place to work. The amount of scrutiny and surveillance you'd have to go through just to get the job so that you can then put that scrutiny and surveillance on the world? What is the point?
Oh yeah, the economy sucks and people are desperate for money.
One truly astonishing thing is the White House complained to the Irish embassy about that interview. It's as if somebody dared to insult a King and it really confirms the stupid feudal mindset that is supposed to be the opposite of everything the USA stands for.
He really did want to get treated like Royalty.
Such Manichean, childish thinking. An organization is either all good or all bad.
To believe that the NSA has done and is not doing valuable things for the U.S. is sloppy thinking.
The good news here is that liberal university graduates will avoid the agency, so more rational Southern and Midwestern graduates will fill the agency.
Unintended effects? Stay tuned.
They would also ask, how much of a liar do you need to be to be a female "journalist" like this one claims to be, and yet whitewash Islamists with horrible human rights and especially anti-women abuses?
They kill more women in honor killings a year than all the drone strikes combined. They rape more women every year than every injury among the innocent from the drone strikes. Yet, the evil n her eyes are the drones and not the Islamists.
They probably consider all states outside the US to be either known enemies or as yet unproven enemies. This means they do as much as they can handle 'just in case'.
Your are not paid to THINK ....
...till the black helicopters are above her house and black vans are at her driveway. Then it won't be as funny.
When the Chinese government issues secret warrants, it is PROOF to Fox News that communism is bad
When the Iraqi government issued secret warrants, it was PROOF to Fox News that Hussein was an evil dictator
When the US government issues secret warrants, it is PROOF to Fox News that the Republicans are fighting terrorism.
... once they find out the internet is just a passing fad and all their snooping efforts are for nothing!
The obvious expectation is that the NSA will retreat further into the background until there work is taken over by an even more secretive organisation. Conspiracy theorists will of course already know the names and helicopter colours of several layers of these.
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
I wonder if the SERE instructors who waterboarded this veteran were prosecuted?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/mg_moore/waterboarding-101-inside_b_190318_23421768.html
I find very little credibility in what you're saying, and a lot in what this guy says:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/ProudAmerican23/waterboarding-101-inside_b_190318_23413168.html