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Hands On With the Nokia Lumia 1020
adeelarshad82 writes "Nokia's new phone, Lumia 1020, feels very similar in the hand to Nokia's Lumia 900 and 920, with one exception: it has a camera bump. The 41-megapixel uber-camera projects out very slightly as a black disc on the back. In terms of functionality, though, the camera provides for smooth zooming only a pinch away. However, it takes a noticeable amount of time to lock focus and save images. At one point during hands-on testing, the camera app crashed so hard that it required a phone reboot, which is hopefully just a pre-release firmware issue. The phone itself carries a brightly colored polycarbonate body that rolls around the edges to cradle a 4.5-inch, 1,280-by-768 screen. Lumia 1020 is powered by a dual-core, 1.5-GHz Qualcomm MSM8960 processor which plows through apps well. Speaking of apps, there's a ton of bloatware on here, as you'd expect from any AT&T device. AT&T adds four apps right at the top of the app list. Nokia Lumia is set to hit AT&T shelves on July 26th for $299."
The nice thing about "bloatware" on Windows Phone is that it can be uninstalled completely, cleanly and very easily.
With a camera phone, I'd say that the time it takes "to lock focus and save images" is arguably far more important than the number of megapixels.
Even with DSLRS, we've long ago reached the point where the average person needs more MP than are available, and none of *them* are at the 41 MP count. They also have far better optics than what is almost certainly in this (Zeiss nametag or not), and it is well understood in that domain that the importance of glass far outweighs the importance of whatever body you happen to be using.
If the point was just to get better low-light performance by packing on more pixels and then binning them, I wonder why they didn't just design sensors with bigger photosites - at least then, reasonable save times and storage consumption would be a possibility. I know that camera novices get sucked into the MP marketing hype, but does anyone buy a phone for the MP in the camera ?
What exactly is wrong with Windows Phone?
The UI concept is very elegant and better than anything iOS or Android has to offer. Windows Phone has excellent developer tools, easily the best. I'm not crazy about the system being locked-down, but this is the standard for phones. iOS is considerably worse in this regard and while I will concede that Android is a bit better, it's still quite locked down but not without major security flaws (SD Card permissions for example).
or has smartphone technology reached something of a plateau? I mean, I had a iPhone 3GS for years and I held off from upgrading until the 5 was released, thinking that there'd be a step change or paradigm shift of some sort. When the time came I left Apple because looking around it seemed that all of the top of the line handsets are basically the same. I don't exactly push the envelope with my phone useage, and despite what people say I don't know many that do. In terms of the core functionality and interface experience, I couldn't find much to choose between Apple, HTC, Nokia or Samsung.
The iPhone was fantastic back in the day. The touchscreen and build quality were a real step forward and set a new standard. But these day smartphones are just another part of the scenery. Any it's not as if they're really moving forwards. The handsets have gotten as small as they can practically be, and then bigger again. Most handsets use the same style screens. Sure, we get more processing power and what not, but seriously how many cores do you need to check e-mail and post to facebook?
I'm using a Lumia 900 right now. And I'n going to stick with it until the next device comes along that changes the game on the same scale as the iPhone 3G did.
It runs Windows. No one will buy it, and those who do will soon regret it.
Enough with the pretending Windows phones are actually good for something.
I disagree. They will make excellent hand warmers
http://saveie6.com/
people are idiots. They see samsung and google making LOTS of money of android, see android ever where, then conculde to make money you have to make android (it's not going to well for HTC is it, and moto was losing so bad they put a for sale sign on the door).
I have. He's right.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
I still prefer my hand warmers to run Linux as it increases the 'warm and fuzzy' effect of the warmer.
My preferred hand warmer configuration is a Galaxy S3 with a full battery and Google Earth spinning around some 3d buildings.
Speaking for myself, the OS itself and how it works was fine - and I really did like the hardware (I wanted to take good pictures of my cats, and the phone absolutely delivered in that respect). However, it felt like initial support for software in general - including the OS - was really poor. As for applications, there were a few gems, but most of the stuff I used regularly felt clunky and half-baked, and I definitely had the impression that development resources applied to them was weak (I'm talking about things that should have good resources available to them; facebook, eBay, Amazon, etc).
My phone is my "main PC" currently, because what I do daily doesn't afford much time to use anything other than an easily accessed pocket terminal - and in that regard, the package failed me.
It's interesting how the inevitable Windows shills (posting anonymously or from very new accounts) are trying to take the "it just works" aphorism away from Apple. Do you think if you repeat it often enough in relation to Windows Phone, people will just forget what devices the phrase was tied to before?
Caveat, I don't do Apple or M$. (I don't like either of their business models.) But I can spot a slimy marketing technique.
Incidentally, speaking as someone who used to work in marketing for a very large company, if you're going to shill for a company, it's not enough just to say it's the greatest thing since internet porn. You have to say *why* it's better than Jenny McCarthy's centerfold, in some plausible fashion. Just to say "I bought a Windows 8 phone and now my eleven kids are fighting over it and they all want to upgrade their Apple 5's to this" doesn't carry much weight, and parenthetically, seems really unlikely.
Of course, this leaves the shill in the unenviable position of trying to come up with some verifiable advantage to Windows Phone 8.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
If you check email, surf the web, do some multimedia, make phone calls - Windows Phone absolutely rocks. If you want apps, not so much. I have Windows Phone and have been tempted by Android, but not enough for me to switch to Android. I prefer WP over Apple and BlackBerry. I would guess half of the negative Windows Phone comments on here are people who probably didn't even pick up a device for 2 minutes. Just fashionable to hate on MS here it seems.
If you're comparing a phone camera with a DSLR then it means it has already won. Anyway, here's more technical details.
Sample photos from the phone http://www.flickr.com/photos/87544844%40N00/sets/72157634597356196/
Review of the photo tech http://pureviewclub.com/2013/15270
Whitepaper from Nokia on the tech http://i.nokia.com/blob/view/-/2723846/data/1/-/Lumia1020-whitepaper.pdf
Sample photos from the predecessor http://www.flickr.com/groups/nokia808/
Nokia presentation showcasing the phone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Q3bxo7vJI&hd=1
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I was thinking excellent nails then would be more of a point than a hammer
http://saveie6.com/
I have to think they names it the "1020" just to put technical people on edge. So close...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
"What good is a man with a stump?"
I can tell you're not a typical slashdotter or you'd already know the answer: 3d printing.
Does anyone else get the feeling that all of these retorts are being done by the same person?
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Bubble, my ass.Nokia smartphone unit is loss-making since the declared Symbian phones dead and sales collapsed. Source: Nokia quartely earning reports. Exactly up to this point smartphones sales were increasing and the smart devices unit was profitable. They fired a lot of people (and the smart ones left), sold business units, and even their head quarter to stay a float. Other units like NSN are profitable which a helps. As a smartphone vendor the fall from number 1 to 10. And here a nice picture about the colllapse caused by the switch to Windows Phone: http://www.asymco.com/2013/04/18/lumia-is-the-light-visible/
I second this motion. He's right.
Since when is popularity the metric of good quality? By that metric OS X and Linux are very bad OSes.
$299 seems kind of cheap for a flagship product with this feature set. Is it really $299, or is it $299 + a lot more $ in contractual obligation over the next 2 years?
In other words, everyone in the world is like your family and do not have different needs, likes and preferences. personally I could say exactly the same about Symbian in my family back when it was still actively developed. - it seems the guy you replied to (lets just assume that everything on the internet is true) gave it a try but still found it to be lacking. there was no hate in his post, infact i read it more like he was sad it didnt work as well as he hoped.
Let's be honest people. 41MP is amazing. I still won't be getting one since it runs WiPh, but the camera is amazing. Period. End of Story.
From he article "4.5-inch, 1,280-by-768 screen. Lumia 1020 is powered by a dual-core, 1.5-GHz Qualcomm MSM8960" ...With the new standard of 5" 1080p quad-core phones especially considering this is twinned with "a high resolution camera" seems really stupid, and from its competitors HTC One(and Butterfly); Samsung Galaxy S4 and Xperia Z(L) as well as an army of cheap Chinese phones Selling at $200 I've been looking at a Neo N003 at $145
Or provide open drivers (and the photo app) so could be ported to be installed there Android, Tizen, Ubuntu Touch, Sailfish or whatever OS the end buyer prefer. Is pretty bad how localizable i am carrying a cellphone, but giving away all my data makes it some orders worse.
I'm pretty much surprised I don't see a comment below this mentioning that Android is Linux.
Or do Google drone nowdays at last know that Android just uses linux kernel and when we speak of Linux as an OS we really mean GNU/Linux which their precious Google spyware has nothing to do with? Can't believe this!
An article about a windows phone? Why is this on here? What's Microsoft market share in phones? Doesn't Nintendo sell more phones than them?
(while I'm kidding about Nintendo there is this image: http://cdn.pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/6a00d8341c5c9353ef01156f2acdc3970c-800wi.jpg )
The iPhone's lens is a 4.1mm focal length f/2.4, so it's 1.71 mm wide. The Rayleigh criterion for a 1.71mm diameter lens in the red spectrum (700 nm) is 0.0286 degrees. That's the smallest angular separation you can resolve using that lens. It gives a view equivalent to a 33mm lens (in the 35mm format), which corresponds to a 57x40 degree field of view (I dunno the aspect ratios on these camera phones so I'll assume 3:2) . So the maximum resolution it supports is 1999x1398, or 2.8 MP.
The Bayer filter means only one pixel in 4 is red, so the camera's 8 MP is effectively capturing only 2 MP of red image data, which is less than the 2.8 MP limit I just calculated. The extra "data" bumping it up to 8 MP is "made up" by the Bayer filter processing algorithm. Unless they go with a bigger lens or a wider field of view, the camera simply can't resolve more than about 8-10 subpixels of data (counting each color pixel as separate). Increase the pixel count and you'll just be capturing two blurry pixels instead of one sharp one. You can see this if you compare a cell phone pic with a DSLR pic at 100%. Because more of the data is "made up" by the Bayer algorithm in the cell phone pic, it looks blurrier than the DSLR pic where adjacent subpixels are getting truly different optical data.
I haven't seen specs on the Lumina 1020 optical hardware. But its predecessor the 808 uses a 8.02mm f/2.4 lens, which is 3.34mm across - nearly twice as wide as the iPhone's. It has an angular resolution limit of 0.0146 degrees. Its field of view is a 26mm equivalent, or 69.4x49.6 degrees. That puts its maximum capture resolution at 4737x3386 pixels, or 16 MP. The 41 MP sensor means about 10.2 MP of red data is captured, which again is less than the 16 MP theoretical limit.
In practical use, the "you need a big lens to capture that much resolution" rule only applies to telephotos. In fact the Rayleigh criterion was derived while probing the theoretical resolving limits of telescopes. If you're using a tiny lens, what you give up in angular resolution you can make back with a wide field of view.
But what about optical quality? One of the advantages of using such a small lens is that it's a lot easier to grind it "perfectly". It takes a lot of work and quality control to grind a professional chunk of glass 77mm in diameter within a fraction of a wavelength to the desired shape. It's much easier to grid a 2mm wide lens into the desired shape, and it doesn't cost you much to just chuck it in the trash if it didn't come out perfectly.
maybe the ac you replied to is elop :)
Rich
Not paid at all. Think it's a great device. I'm defending the device I like. that simple.
Sounds like you want a modern Nokia... but the TRUE Nokia, how it would be now if the Microsoft plant hadn't destroyed the company. So, you want a Jolla.
Circumcision is child abuse.
Personally I've been really happy with my 920 but I don't think I could use any phone as my main pc. Which phone did you settle on for that?
If you want a phone with Meego, wait for the Jolla. It's the closest you will ever get.
Circumcision is child abuse.
I went back to an iPhone 4 (a spare we had) for the time being. Prior to that, I was on an iPhone 3GS, and then prior to that, I was strictly a Nokia guy. So, I was really excited by the opportunity to go back to a top-shelf Nokia (I pre-ordered; cyan). I have no special love for iOS, and have very little invested monetarily in that ecosystem, so anything in the way of repurchasing apps is a non-issue. I'm actually pretty hopeful that WP comes around, because I really do like Nokia hardware.
Again, it came down to day to day usability for me. Currently I work in a decidedly un-techy environment, so whatever phone I use essentially serves as my main computing platform. It would have been different were I working I.T. again, where I'd have much more access to everything 'net (and listen to the music that is an IBM Model M).
Heck, I'd probably have posted instead how I was buying one of these outright instead of waiting for the subsidized upgrade!
The fact the source is open does not mean "nobody might care to check it", it means that someone who might care can check.
Yes, I've messed up that sentence but you've got my poing.
Well, in case you hire someone to perform the source audit you've got to besides paying him trust him. By the way checking for backdoors can also be performed by disassembling the binary blob it just takes more effort. And you'll have to go that route with abovementioned closed-source components.
If that is a question of trust anyway some might happen to trust closed-source product manufacturers enough not to care about the source.
smart devices contribution margin:
2010 Q2 8,1
2010 Q3 9,3
2010 Q4 11,6
2011 Q1 6,2 (Symbian declared dead)
2011 Q2 -6,2
2011 Q3 -5,9
2011 Q4 -7
2012 Q1 -18,3
2012 Q2 -32,9
2012 Q3 -48,9
2012 Q4 -21,6
2012 Q1 -16,2
"infact i read it more like he was sad it didnt work as well as he hoped."
This.
Because they are still selling bucketloads of Symbian phones to China. That "burning platform" is what is keeping their arse out of the fire.
Makes sense. I think if I was stranded on an island (with decent reception) and had to use a phone as my main PC I'd have to go with one that has a keyboard. I still find typing on a touchscreen a bit frustrating.
Since the lenses are tiny (to deliver light to really tiny sensors) it's not going to be horribly expensive for those Zeiss lenses to be decent in the tiny bit of glass that matters. Of course there won't be much light coming in.
Unless something has changed drastically lately a very small 41MP sensor is going to be a bit noisy anyway so could be a weaker link than the optics.
To me this just looks like a hack to get digital zoom for OK snapshots in good light instead of going for detail, and since the sensor doesn't seem to be stupidly expensive I can see their point, which is not to replace even an early DSLR but to provide better "casual snaps".
Where I work, currently, is, in fact, like being stranded on a (noisy) island (with poor reception).
The only truly measurable difference being that it's an underground repair facility and not an island. I don't have one with a physical keyboard because of contamination by chemicals, etc. The Lumia was in an Otterbox, which I'd remove on days off - I really liked the feel of the 920.
Symbian was not dying:
http://www.asymco.com/2013/04/18/lumia-is-the-light-visible/
That does not mean that Symbian did not have problems. Despite the growth in absolute numbers, Nokia lost market share in smart phones and it was clear that Symbian would not be competive in the future. But the thing is, they had a perfectly good plan: Two meego phones were already fully developed when they announced the switch to WP 7 (and more Meego phones were in development and a tablet). With QT there was a plausible transition strategy from Symbian to Meego which would have offered developers a way to support both. Nokia would have kept full control ecosystem and the ability to do innovative things. Instead they threw everything away and switched to WP 7 although Windows Mobile/Phone was failing to capture market share for years. The Meego-based N9 was then released only in smaller markets and turned out to be an absolutely awesome phone which initially outsold the two Lumia devices, proofing that this would have been a much much better strategy. The N950 was never sold and only given to developers and another device became the Lumia 800.
> I'm pretty much surprised I don't see a comment below this mentioning that Android is Linux.
I think you just said. :-) And if you go back far enough, OSX -> Nextstep -> AUX -> BSD, which makes Berkeley Unix one of the most popular desktop OS's. :-) One could say, the year of *nix on the desktop is done got here. And has been for awhile.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Your comment could be taken far more seriously if you had given any indication that you even knew there was a difference between Windows and Windows Phone. Aside from both using NT-family kernels (definitely not the same kernel though, even accounting for CPU architecture) and having live tiles and sharing some APIs, the only similarity is their name. iOS and Android are more alike than Win8 and WP8.
There's no place I could be, since I've found Serenity...
Half the reasons on that list were obsolete before WP8 even came out (and WP8 is more different under the covers from WP7 than WP7 was from WinMo6.5), and about an eighth of them were never true. Most of the rest have been obsoleted since. That list has been trotted out so many times it's *probably* got more links to it than the number of point-by-point refutations, some of which have been posted right here on Slashdot.
At this point, it's the equivalent of claiming that Windows 8 is still based on DOS because it includes cmd.exe (yes, I've seen people make that claim, both on here and elsewhere). It does nothing but label you as an idiot who badmouths things with no concept of how they work and likely no actual experience with them either.
There's no place I could be, since I've found Serenity...
"I know a few geeks (VERY few) that have WP's" And I know quite a few. A circle of friends or a circle of co-workers is just that - a closed group of people who tend to have a similar collection of likes/dislikes and is merely a microcosm in a much bigger world. Just another case of "Nobody I knew voted for Nixon."
http://www.nokia.com/in-en/phones/phone/nokia-808/ (And yes, with all the updates Symbian is not too bad as an OS. People mostly bash it because others do.)
The first nokia windows phones came out in october of 2011 meaning precious symbian was falling behind before they even had the replacement.
that's because they declared symbian dead.
elop did it on purpose to kill it off faster than it would have otherwise gone. he just announced from a rooftop to the world to stop buying them.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
808 proved to be lot better in photos than 8mpix sensors.
it's a bigger sensor, bigger lens than usual. it takes better photos in better resolution. vastly better.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
Linux is probably more widespread than Windows. Unless your wireless router is from Apple, it probably runs Linux. Same for tablets, ebook readers, and phones, of course. Windows only owns the desktop, which is here to stay, but gets less and less relevant each year.
Ah. Idiot know-it-alls. Always eager to ignore readily available empirical evidence.
If you mean at the time of Elop's announcement there were 0 MeeGo phones developed. The N9 was only finished so quickly because it became terminal and thus the politics reduced. MeeGo was fundamentally flawed in that opposite promises had been made to different groups.
I see the Android/iOS fanboy armies have united in a common cause. OK, the parent is probably gushing a little, but he has a valid point.
No colour or religion ever stopped the bullet from a gun
Down-modded for suggesting that Google is possibly capable of imperfection.
... the Megapixel Wars have.
Thanks for sharing this information in this way.
My wife and I both bought and love it, she has Win8 device now, I have a Win7 device that has a custom ROM from XDA Devs. If you want all the distractoapps, it's not the phone for you. But, if you want a fast simple(contradiction?)smartphone, it is fun to own.
I think someone has already pointed out that Unix (OSX, iOS) and Linux (Android) are doing very well, thanks. And the reasons why Windows is the top desktop OS is a topic for another discussion, and has almost nothing to do with usability. (Even more so with the debacle that is Windows 8.)
Popularity is the metric of popularity. There are a lot of reasons why people aren't buying Microsoft's phones. Like me, they may have owned a previous model. (I'll never touch one again.) They may have toyed with one in the store and remarked on the unsophisticated, almost retro look of it. They may be concerned that the lack of marketshare will result in a thin ecosystem and ultimate abandonment. (Like Microsoft has NEVER abandoned a portable OS in the past...) And they may not choose to own one because nobody else does, and they'd feel silly carrying one. (I personally don't consider this a valid reason, but it does exist.) At my daughter's high school, Android is very popular because you can change the look and feel of the desktop. This is apparently very important to high school age consumers. With Win8 you can, what, maybe change the background?
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Oh, and another good reason was, he got it for free.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Right, exactly, as a marketing strategy, unsubstantiated claims of "it's great! it's easy to use! my kids fight for the privilege of using it!" kinda fall flat.
Not even iphone users fall for that, and they'll fall for ANYTHING. I mean, watching people huddling in the parking lot in the rain waiting for the store to open in order to be the first ones to exchange their 4 for a 4s, what was the marketing phrase? Not "it's great, it's easy to use", they already were convinced of that. One word: Siri. Now it could be argued that Siri proved to be largely pants, but it was at the time the major selling point for the 4s. And it worked.
What does Microsoft have that would sell the Lumia? Tiles. We've already got those on Android, thanks. Dynamic tiles. We've got Widgets, thanks, (something you, Microsoft, abandoned, remember?) and they're prettier than your tiles.
So, then, what?
You keep hearing "easy to use easy to use" could this be Microsoft trying to apologize for Windows Phone 6? Like the marketing phrase "have you driven a Ford LATELY?" Saying, yeah, we screwed up, but we're better now, honest.
If so, that's commendable; when you have a dark history, you first have to compete with your former self before you can compete with others. But that has to happen eventually, and then, what do you have to offer? The most product placements on prime time TV? (Does that even work anymore?)
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
LMFTFY
Except that optical zoom means jack shit when there is a 41MP element
Then why did you post the original as AC and this under your (possibly) actual handle?
You're special forces then? That's great! I just love your olympics!
Yes, this kind of camera has been available for almost two years now...The Nokia 808, which runs Symbian, and supports Qt-based apps, is still the best existing camera phone. Apparently, the Lumia 1020 has some improvements.
Yeah, like that one.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Its windows, thats whats fucking wrong, no one wants windows on their phone
get lost brown shirt.
I'll reply to this, not as an AC, and not as an MS Shill. In fact, I've had this Slashdot account for years.
I recently switched to a Windows Phone (Lumia 920) from the iPhone 5 through that promotion that Nokia is running for trade ins. Yes, I voluntarily funneled out $450 for a Lumia 920 (of which I'll get $360 back when I send 'em my iPhone 5)
Anyways...
Overall, I've been happy with the phone. It works reasonably well. And while the lack of apps can be a problem, it hasn't detracted from the functionality of the phone itself. The best I can say is 'different'.
I also like the live tiles over notification center...
For me it's usability.
I like that on my tablet I can bring up a command line prompt and have access to the entire system (rooted) and use it as if it's a Linux computer. On my phone I like that I can load up an sshd server and remote into my phone.
To me it's the ability to use my device how I wish. With an iDevice or Windows device I feel too limited. I don't like that.
I've not had an Android phone, but I have an iPod touch, as well as a new Lumia 520. I'll say that I'd be fine w/ either the Lumia or the iPhone.
I've seen Windows 8 on desktops and can see how ugly it would be there. However, on the phone, it's just fine. It does a great job guessing words when one is typing, and I can easily see it as being as good as iOS. In other words, great for e-mail & sms. I also like, amongst its features, its mapping and GPS capabilities, as well as some of the general apps, such as the calculators, currency converters and the camera software. They do a good job w/ Skydrive, although one would wish that one didn't have to create a Hotmail/live.com account to use it. Music, video and MS Office are good as well.
The shortcomings of a Windows phone - which may or may not be temporary - is the variety of games that they have on it. They do have the common ones, like Angry Birds, Temple Run and so on, but many major ones are missing. For instance, in my iPod, I have Trivia, Monopoly, Risk, Stratego, Clue and Civ War, among some others. Few from that list are available on Windows Phone 8. Also, some really good iOS games, such as searching pictures for objects, don't seem to be there on this platform.
In short, if you're not much of a gamer and use the phones only for serious work, it's a good choice - the maps, for one, particularly justify it. It's also excellent for typing for something in that form factor, and also, the Metro interface, while justifiably maligned on the PC, is certainly good here. But yeah, if you are looking for the latest & greatest of games, this platform is just not there, unless one happens to be an X-Box user. That's where this platform seems to get a lot of its games.
It does have a shortage of games though. So on the games front, unless one is an avid player of Xbox games, the missing links will look real. Of course, this may well be only temporary.
However, I don't see why you were down-modded - (-1 at the time of writing): I found the 520, which is the entry level phone for the WPhone 8 (I still think WordPerfect when I see WP, so not using that here) Lumia series, reasonably good: I don't need the frontside cam or some of those extras, and 5 megapixels is good enough. I did like the Nokia Here maps and the GPS capabilities, though, and typing on this thing is the best I've seen so far, so for real work, this phone is right up there w/ iPhones & droids.
However, one thing - unlike in the past, as w/ WordPerfect, Lotus, Borland, Symantec, Netscape and so on, this time, Microsoft just can't wipe out the competition in the phone market. Everybody who has an iPhone swears by it (most people are not the type here who'll be put off by walled gardens: they'll just want the apps they need), and there are enough companies making droids that Google's dominance in this market is as guaranteed as Intel's is in the PC market.
It was in an advanced state but there were conflicts between what was going in. Different teams had different build ups. Also lots of insiders have said it.
Just to set the record straight, the people who buy and use Windows phones are the ones also happiest with their purchase. They have a very, very high customer satisfaction rate. Also, the "not selling" is true in the US, but not in other markets. US Consumers are among the most conservative and least willing to change to newer and better technologies (I mean, american cars were actually sold in the US all through the 1980s). Not so in other places. At the moment Windows Phone apparently sells on par with iPhone for example i Russia.
Not saying they are a great market success yet, but that there are signs that WP might do quite well in the next five years.
You are lying. As usual you paid Google shills are just making up stuff as you go along. Sadly for you, Google doesn't pay you shills in anything but hit ranking, which is worthless when you are.
http://wmpoweruser.com/nokias-windows-phones-topping-customer-satisfaction-charts-in-us/
Here is the 125 reasons not to buy a Windows Phone
I stopped reading after the first ten since they were all wrong. How much are you being paid to post this nonsense? If your not getting paid, you are a moron, or just a "useful idiot".
Laughter. Yeah we're all Google shills, including the Mac heads and all the former Nokia fans still clinging to their N95s who will never forgive Nokia for killing symbian and the people whom were issued windows phones and revolted. (Seriously, reboot the phone after installing an app??). Yep, we all work for Google. It's a conspiracy. Nice try.
For the record, I'd switch back to blackberry in a heartbeat if the offshore Admins could figure out how to keep BES up. Still the best keyboard in the business, and the tightest integration with the company intranet, when BES was working.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Yep, we all work for Google. It's a conspiracy. Nice try.
Wooooosh
Sigh. Well, it happens to everyone occasionally. One of my better rants, wasted. I need a drink.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Wow, there is nothing that comes close to the Lumia 1020 and it's camera. I've been using DSLRs for quite some time. No camera phone has ever been able to hold its own against a DSLR like the NIkon D800... until now.
Thanks for injecting some much needed humor into my day.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
It's mainly the shortage of good apps. Note, I said *good* apps. Even the usual stuff like Skype or Kindle is variously slower, or buggy, or both (e.g. Skype still lags notifications by minutes, and sometimes by hours).