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New Zealand Government About To Legalize Spying On NZ Citizens

Flere Imsaho writes "After admitting they have illegally spied on NZ citizens or residents 88 times (PDF) since 2003, the government, in a stunning example of arse covering, is about to grant the GCSB the right to intercept the communications of New Zealanders in its role as the national cyber security agency, rather than examine the role the GCSB should play and then look at the laws. There has been strong criticism from many avenues. The bill is being opposed by Labor and the Greens, but it looks like National now have the numbers to get this passed. Of course, the front page story is all about the royal baby, with this huge erosion of privacy relegated to a small article near the bottom of the front page. Three cheers, the monarchy is secure, never mind the rights of the people. More bread and circuses anyone?"

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  1. Is Sauron in the gov there? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    --A concerned Hobbit.

  2. Still illegal under NZ Constitution by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But, hey, that doesn't stop the UK, Canada, Britain, or Germany from doing the same thing in violation of their Constitutions, either.

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    1. Re:Still illegal under NZ Constitution by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or the US.

      Well, yes, but we're insane, so we don't count.

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    2. Re:Still illegal under NZ Constitution by Isaac+Remuant · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Someday we'll realize all these divisions and patriotism only help to keep us occupied and divided instead of trying to find a way to avoid the corruption of those with power/money.

      We're all humans after all, no matter what religion, ideology or place of birth.

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  3. Ashamed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been a Kiwi all my life and have had some bad moments, and some moments when I'm damn proud to be one.

    This however, is the first time I'm outright ashamed.

  4. Apologies by Hairy1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a New Zealand Citizen I would like to offer my deep heartfelt apologies to every other country of the world for expanding the powers of our secret police and destroying and semblance of privacy in New Zealand. I offer these apologies as this is not who we are as a society. Our Government is not representing the will of it's citizens, as was indicated in a recent poll which indicated that a vast majority of New Zealanders did not support the legislation. It is legislation being put in place to wipe out the balance of power; to enable tyranny in our country. They cannot permit people to stand up to them as Kim Dotcom did. This is not the example I want to make to the world. We pride ourselves on our integrity and independence. This legislation is submission to power, it is a disgrace and a treason against the national interest.

  5. Re:New Zealand is always in the forefront by Chickenlips · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There used to be practical limits to a government spying on its citizens (unless we are talking about a police state, where nothing was above being opened without a reason). The targeted spying of postage communications has always existed. However, a normal citizen could reasonably expect their mail to be delivered unopened, unread and unarchived for future reference. It's possible modern technology has rendered even this doable by a determined spy agency, but it would still be less practical than electronic siphoning.

  6. Bread and circus by countach · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real bread and circus is not the royal baby, it is the war.. the "war on terror". George Orwell was a genius in predicting that a perpetual war would be the excuse to bring in the police state. Even 10 years ago, I thought Orwell's idea of the perpetual war was a bit fantastic. Now it is so on the money, it is scarily prescient.