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MIT Releases Swartz Report: Instead of Leading, School Was 'Hands-Off'

curtwoodward writes "MIT's long-awaited internal investigation into its handling of the Aaron Swartz prosecution has been released (PDF), and it's massive — about 180 pages, not counting the reams of supporting documents. And although the report's authors say they were told not to draw any conclusions about MIT's actions — really — they still gently criticized the university. Swartz, a well-known activist, killed himself earlier this year while being prosecuted for federal computer crimes after he improperly downloaded millions of academic research articles. MIT remained notably 'hands-off' throughout the case, the internal report notes, despite requests that it defend Swartz or oppose the prosecution, and ample opportunities to show leadership. The report quotes an MIT official: 'MIT didn't do anything wrong; but we didn't do ourselves proud.'" Swartz's partner, Taren Stinebrickner-Kauffman, calls the report a whitewash.

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  1. Gee, I expected different results....! by icebike · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can there be any surprise here?
    An internal investigation, with nobody sworn in, and no subpoena power, finds the institution that empowers it blameless.

    Lets have an investigation of why they wasted the money doing this investigation. No doubt that will find no fault either.

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    1. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Why exactly should your college defend you when you comit a crime?

      Why should commiting suicide make you an hero?

    2. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Cynical. Very cynical. Not really wrong, but it misses subtlety. In this case we have a government with a heavy-handed response to an active resistance protest. It looks terrible, because it got a political activist arrested for what wasn't intended to do harm. It doesn't matter what others involved did, the blame rests with the DoJ for "cracking down" on a crime that was meant to do no harm.

    3. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by AuralityKev · · Score: 2

      It's turtles, I mean investigations, all the way down. Unless it was an external non-related investigating body doing the work, I sincerely doubt the veracity of their conclusions. You'd think the most scientifically advanced (okay, arguably) place of higher learning in the world would have tried to remove any perception of bias on the part of the investigating body. Hire an outside firm at the very least.

    4. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let's ask Jesus.

      Jesus says martyrdom is ok with him, that the automatic disdain for those who commit suicide is a terrible reflection of a desire to judge people and ignore their problems rather than embrace them with the spirit of love which he endorsed.

    5. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Unless it was an external non-related investigating body doing the work, I sincerely doubt the veracity of their conclusions

      Honestly, with the name Hal Abelson on the report's cover, I don't think anyone would would have berated you had you had higher expectations.

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    6. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that MIT would expose itself to civil litigation from the journal publishers if they didn't cooperate.

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    7. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by Score+Whore · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to mention that he wasn't a student at MIT.

    8. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by sribe · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why exactly should your college defend you when you comit a crime?

      Well, it wasn't even his college...

      But what he did should most certainly not be a crime (just a civil tort instead), and he was charge not just with the "crimes" he committed but a number he most certainly did not commit, and MIT was in a position to know for a fact that the charges were wildly exaggerated, and universities are supposed to represent and defend academic freedom, and as an alum I am deeply disappointed in the administration's behavior.

    9. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by danceswithtrees · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Forget the masturbatory self-congratulation that is this report. They almost certainly have something to hide. A reporter at Wired submitted a FOIA request for Aaron's Secret Service file. A judge OKed the release of the file but then MIT intervened to block the release!

      See http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/07/mit-swartz-intervene/all/1

      Supposedly, it is _extremely_ rare for non-governmental entities to block FOIA requests. There must be something in there that MIT doesn't want to see the light of day.

    10. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

      There are two rules for accountability: One for the average person who has to be accountable. And the high up people who require none.

    11. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Please don't call him a kid, that carries connotations of irresponsibility. He was a grown man, and what would you prefer? Years of harassment by the DoJ and apathy by one of the (until now) most respected technical universities who are supposed to defend this sort of thing and have in the past, and then on top of that jail time for a so-called "crime" that did no damage. Or as you so stupidly put it: "Off yourself". It was MIT's fault as much as the DoJ's and his own.

    12. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by danceswithtrees · · Score: 2

      It could easily be the name of the secretary that processed the relevant paperwork. The main legitimate reason to deny a FOIA request is if the documents make reference to someone who is still alive who might face danger or harassment if their name is released.

      Try RTA. The names of third parties would have been redacted as SOP for FOIA releases. Try again?

    13. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by achbed · · Score: 2

      Not entirely true. His father is an alumnus, and works there to boot. So he had reason and opportunity to be on campus anyway. That does not make him a student or faculty member, it does make him "legacy" according to most every college I've ever been associated with. These guys are usually given the benefit of the doubt.

    14. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      lame rests with the DoJ for "cracking down" on a crime that was meant to do no harm.

      The intended harm was to deprive JSTORS of the revenue it requires to handle the peer reviews and publish papers.

      Swartz broke the law and decided to not stand up for his principles.

    15. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      They were fading that day...

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    16. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      MIT has a responsibility to defend someone who broke into one of their closets and installed a device?

      Oh sure, academic freedom and all of that.

      Seriously, though, I can't even imagine why they'd want to encourage that. Maybe not throw him to the sharks, but why is it MIT's responsibility to save him from his own plan?

      I do agree that he wasn't a kid, although I think everyone wants to treat him that way. Probably because see him as a poor broken bird due to suicide.

      Aside from that, though, that doesn't mean I agree with the way the prosecution was handled. That's classic Federal overkill. He was definitely guilty of trespass and probably some civil stuff, but I can't see why they'd go farther than that. Still, breaking the law is always a very, very dicey prospect as a method of protest, even in more benign jurisdictions, and he should have known that.

    17. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They're trying to block it because staff are named in the report and identified in other way (such as by title or affiliation where a name and contact information could be quickly acquire with duckduckgo.com or another search engine).

      After Aaron committed suicide several staff at the Institute received very frightening and detailed death threats both via email and phone. One particular threat involved a "swatting" call that included a caller saying he was a gunman on his way to kill specific employees by name. He accurately described buildings and hall ways that he claimed to be passing through, had very detailed information about the office location, and had very detailed information about the staff member. The call lead to a large armed police response creating a dangerous situation where someone could possibly have been accidentally shot. Many of the threated staff where woman in their 50's and 60's. If the death threats didn't happen, there would be an attempt to block the FOIA requests.

      MIT has been very clear both in court and publicly that the attempt to block the FOIA request is about staff safety.

    18. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2

      Can there be any surprise here?
      An internal investigation, with nobody sworn in, and no subpoena power, finds the institution that empowers it blameless.

      Lets have an investigation of why they wasted the money doing this investigation. No doubt that will find no fault either.

      There's no surprise here -- you obviously didn't read the report. Just going to the findings/questions sections is very illuminating.

      First off, this investigation was called by the president of MIT, but was only partly internal.

      Second: MIT wasn't found blameless in the findings (it's even in TFS).

      Thirdly, if you read the President's report or the prolog to the report, you'll see that the report wasn't about finding MIT guilty of anything, it was to get a third-party summary of what actually happened and who did what. I found it pretty balanced.

      Fourthly, the report suggested things that not only MIT, but ALL academic institutions should form policy on NOW -- and used as one of its main areas that of biochemistry IIRC.

      Fifthly, even though Swartz wasn't a student, the report faulted MIT for their treatment of him as "not a student" as well as their not waiting for this finding to kick off the external investigation -- he was obviously a member of the larger MIT community, which the report says needs to be better defined than it currently is (as currently, someone who isn't staff/student/faculty is considered "not MIT" and so gets treated less leniently).

      It's too late for Aaron. However, if people in academic decision-making positions read this report and act on it, it could go a long way towards having a repeat occurrence. The report even points out that 1994 had a similar case at MIT, but that nobody in current decision positions seemed to know anything about the previous case, or even know to look for that information.

      Anyone looking for this to be some sort of a fault-finding "send the president of MIT to jail for gross misconduct" thing is going to feel gypped. But as a report, I appreciated its findings and overall view of how the university setting is different from activities in the general public.

    19. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2

      It's turtles, I mean investigations, all the way down.

      Unless it was an external non-related investigating body doing the work, I sincerely doubt the veracity of their conclusions. You'd think the most scientifically advanced (okay, arguably) place of higher learning in the world would have tried to remove any perception of bias on the part of the investigating body. Hire an outside firm at the very least.

      That said, have you read the findings of the report? I don't think you'd want to doubt the veracity of some of their conclusions... they actually sound a lot like what I sometimes consider "rants" on slashdot... talking about protecting the hacker community, preventing chill, encouraging freedom of academic investigation, even for people not directly related to the institution, etc.

      The paper has some great recommendations, and I hope they get followed, not just by MIT, but by any other educational institution wanting to avoid this kind of situation in the future. This thing should actually be required reading for anyone dealing with policy and legal action at an educational institution; there's lots of food for thought and questions that should be answered by policy or hiring decisions.

    20. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by danceswithtrees · · Score: 1

      OK. I was not aware of the threats/SWATings that have occurred already. Perhaps more than the names could be redacted so that peoples identities could not be found out with bing (or another search engine). Regardless, if the people making these threats (which I don't condone by the way), then the identities of people involved are already known by at least some people.

      I think that allowing the release of the Secret Service file with go a LONG way toward making amends for any wrongdoing, perceived or real. Perhaps it might satisfy some angry people enough so that they stop making threats. Blocking the FOIA request after it had been approved for release gives the appearance of something really bad being hidden from view. If MITs real reason for blocking the FOIA request is staff safety, I think a properly redacted folder could do a world of good.

    21. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      Well, what's the point then blocking it if the death threats are happening already to specific members of the staff? it certainly doesn't make it sound like they're clean on it. Maybe they're just shitty by going along with the SS but that's just as shitty in the end.

      Still I find it ridiculous that anyone who is involved with FOIA can block them. Call yourself a death threat and block the FOIA on government deal that you got under the table..

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    22. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by jbolden · · Score: 2

      The prosecutor set out to terrify him to the point that he would see no alternatives and no hope. The prosecutor was successful. I don't have much problem in considering terrifying someone into killing themselves to be manslaughter.

    23. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by jxander · · Score: 2

      Responsibility: No.

      However lets look at this from the perspective of human decency. If, for instance, a stray dog took shelter on your porch, do you have any responsibility to protect it from the neighborhood bully that's chasing it with a baseball bat? Hell, the dog is trespassing. Breaking the law! Hand it over to whoever is pursuing it and let the punishment commence. As you watch the animal getting battered and beaten, does that make you a bad person?

      Or do you just keep telling yourself : Not my responsibility

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    24. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by Larryish · · Score: 1

      I am calling shenanigans here.

      Everybody knows that all black people are named Sambo.

    25. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by dixon1e · · Score: 1

      "They're not wrong, they're just assholes."

    26. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by tnk1 · · Score: 2

      Uh. Dogs don't trespass. And the "bully", (ie. The Government) was chasing Swartz *after* he trespassed, not before.

      I know what you think you're saying, but it's not the same thing. It's more like someone trespassing, you calling the cops because you heard someone outside messing with your wiring, and then watching some kid being shoved in the back of a police car under arrest in cuffs. You probably had no intention of having the boy next door dragged away in cuffs for simply hooking up to your cable TV or something, but you certainly don't want people fucking with your stuff either.

      I don't like what happened to Swartz, but I find the idea that the actual victim of a crime (albeit a minor one) is now responsible for saving the perpetrators life... from himself.

      Let's be clear, Aaron Swartz would be alive today if he didn't kill himself. And he probably wouldn't have killed himself if he decided that it was wrong to go about his action in quite that way. Sure, MIT might have stopped the situation, maybe. And maybe I could have killed a butterfly, which would then have a chain reaction effect that would have melted Carmen Ortiz's cold, cold heart. In both cases, I'd say our level of responsibility would be about equal.

    27. Re:Gee, I expected different results....! by jxander · · Score: 1

      The analogy isn't perfect, but it captures the spirit of the incident. Standing by idly (which is exactly what MIT did) while someone else is brutalized defies every bit of human decency. Yes, the guy broke the law, but his crimes were relatively minor, and didn't warrant the attention they were given.

      Yes, Aaron Swartz is the one who killed himself, but the prosecution is the one who made that an attractive option. They hounded, harassed, browbeat, threatened, embarrassed and otherwise did everything they could to make him miserable, and paint a bleak future for him with little to no hopes of ever escaping the stigma placed upon him. All for the crime of, basically, breaking into a library and xeroxing some books.

      MIT, the "victim" of his crimes, is an institution with enough clout to actually step in and temper the witchhunt. They could have calmed things down, they could have ensured a fair trial and fitting punishment. But they didn't. They watched as Ortiz systematically destroyed a man's life, and continued to watch as that man ended it.

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  2. Mistakes... by pitchpipe · · Score: 1

    Mistakes were made ...

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  3. improperly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Swartz, a well-known activist, killed himself earlier this year while being prosecuted for federal computer crimes after he improperly downloaded millions of academic research articles." (emphasis added)

    Given that: 1) he wasn't convicted; 2) the journals in question didn't have the right to the works they were selling access to (the authors were generally funded by university/public money, and thus did not hold the copyright and thus could not transfer the rights to the journal); 3) its even debatable if he violated the TOS (he was apparently doing a research project related to the papers, presumably some sort of meta study, which could might be acceptable use for millions of papers), it seems inaccurate to say his downloads were "Improper".

    I personally think his actions were perfectly acceptable, proper and legal.

    1. Re:improperly? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If anything he was properly releasing information that was improperly withheld.

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    2. Re:improperly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If anything he was properly releasing information that was improperly withheld.

      The articles in question weren't actually released (don't confuse this with his freeing of the PACER documents, which was clearly legal and accepted, and he paid for!). JSTOR (the claimed owner of the documents in this case) reached an out of court settlement and Aaron Swartz did not release them (and there is no indication that he ever intended to). It was after that that the United States federal government pressed criminal charges.

    3. Re:improperly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is an interesting claim: "the authors were generally funded by university/public money, and thus did not hold the copyright and thus could not transfer the rights to the journal."

      Unfortunately, I don't think this is true. You are assuming that research publications funded by government money (federal, state, etc) constitute a "work for hire" under copyright law. I've never seen such an agreement, and the one I just looked up (University of Texas) specifically states that employees retain ownership of scholarly publications created as part of their job. Some grant-issuing agencies have started requiring open access publications for funded research, but that is a fairly new (and positive) trend that still does not alter the copyright of the author.

      Note that patents are a different issue entirely. The Bayh–Dole Act of 1980 allows the inventors (or their employers) to claim patent ownership over inventions funded by federal grants, and so now basically all university employees sign IP agreements that grant patent rights for inventions to the university, regardless of who paid for it. This has nothing to do with the copyright question, but is similarly concerning.

    4. Re:improperly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Exactly, this was simply bullying writ large by US Attorney Carmen Ortiz.

    5. Re:improperly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, this case demonstrates the misuse of power (for personal gain) by Prosecutors who's sole motivation is a stunning WIN record so that they will gain promotions and raises

    6. Re:improperly? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      He's making a very good martyr though. His suicide drew more attention to the issue of overzealous prosecution and the use of intimidation than staying alive would have.

    7. Re:improperly? by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      I'm not a fan of Aaron Swartz, but I would prefer him alive and not dead. He didn't actually choose martyrdom, the depression chose it for him.

      I dislike the idea that his end is going to get used in that way, but I guess he's beyond caring.

    8. Re:improperly? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      He is not a martyr. Suicide is not martyrdom. And claiming it is, just encourages more of the same. Be Very Careful what you're actually trying to say.

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    9. Re:improperly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      couldn't stand the heat of the kitchen he was cooking in

      While ignorance of the law is no excuse, google "3 Felonies a day". Do you realize the kitchen you are cooking in?

    10. Re:improperly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Swartz, a well-known activist, killed himself earlier this year while being prosecuted for federal computer crimes after he improperly downloaded millions of academic research articles." (emphasis added)

      Given that: 1) he wasn't convicted; 2) the journals in question didn't have the right to the works they were selling access to (the authors were generally funded by university/public money, and thus did not hold the copyright and thus could not transfer the rights to the journal); 3) its even debatable if he violated the TOS (he was apparently doing a research project related to the papers, presumably some sort of meta study, which could might be acceptable use for millions of papers), it seems inaccurate to say his downloads were "Improper".

      I personally think his actions were perfectly acceptable, proper and legal.

      So do you personally think that my actions would be acceptable, proper and legal if I hid a laptop in your house and downloaded all content I found on your network that I felt you didn't legally have access to?

      Four wrongs don't make a right.

      Swartz was definitely improperly downloading information. His actions surrounding the event speak to that as much as the hidden laptop and the license agreement. However, I sometimes improperly open a door by using the key instead of the doorknob -- this isn't a felony, and what Swartz did isn't, in my opinion, close enough to a felony to have a judge even consider the case.

      MIT definitely bungled the case, due to campus police and campus counsel not having a clue what to do in this situation.

      Local police did the right thing given their mandate; they gave the computer intrusion case to the feds, as they are required to.

      The feds did the wrong thing, as after a quick investigation, they went for the public tar and feather treatment instead of handing this back to MIT for civil charges.

      And finally, the judge did the wrong thing, as they should have tossed this out and asked for it to be sent to the correct civil court.

    11. Re:improperly? by GodInHell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The journals in question didn't have the right to the works they were selling access to (the authors were generally funded by university/public money, and thus did not hold the copyright and thus could not transfer the rights to the journal);

      This statement has no basis in the law of the United States, it is mere sophistry posing as a postulation of fact. University authors (even publicly funded ones) retain rights to their own work. They're the author. You are confusing by degree restrictions placed on what is patentable for what is copyrightable - they are not the same, restrictions on one don't cross to the other - and there are very VERY few strings attached even to patenting work funded by public monies in the United States.

      It is not debatable that he breached the TOS - because he was not a student or faculty (or even invitee) of MIT. Those terms of service posted at MIT's site include that you must be a student/faculty/staff to access JSTOR. JSTOR saw that someone at MIT was systemically downloading every journal in their database -- they asked MIT to look into it. MIT did. MIT took steps to stop whomever was downloading the journals from doing so - Swartz then designed around that limitation - leaving a laptop hidden under a box in a closet. MIT found the laptop and put a camera there -- they saw Swartz enter the closet (taking steps to hide his face while sneaking in to engage in his -- what did you call it "meta study"). When a police officer approached Swartz, he fled (itself a criminal act) and was arrested in the middle of trying to ditch the hard drive full of data.

      So, he traveled to MIT from the campus where he was on staff (and had access to JSTOR there), hid a device on campus to downloand the files, hid his face as he came and went, fled from police, and tried to ditch the stolen items when he was accosted. There is a serious question whether or not Swartz knew what he was doing was against the law? Seriously? Not buying it.

    12. Re:improperly? by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Prosecutors

      That seems like a good term for the politicians of the last ~30 years.

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    13. Re:improperly? by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      I hope you get AIDS and kill yourself asshole...

    14. Re:improperly? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Wow, an internet tough guy.

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  4. Timing by OECD · · Score: 4, Informative

    If MIT is at all serious about implementing any reforms to stop this kind of tragedy from happening again, it must stop objecting to the release of information about the case. Which they will probably do, now that they got "ahead of the story."

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  5. Regarding Taren Stinebrickner-Kauffman's response, by barlevg · · Score: 2

    I actually had no idea that JSTOR urged against prosecution. It seems that if anyone were the "victim" of Aaron Swartz's act, it would've been them--the most MIT could complain about would've been a momentary spike in their bandwidth usage. Not that I wasn't enraged by this whole situation already, but that just strikes me as bullshit.

  6. Re:improperly downloaded articles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They were pay-walled (by journls who claim copyright from authors who did them as works for hire and thus didn't have the copyright to transfer). He downloaded them for free from a university that had payed a license (with a laptop hidden in a closet). There was TOS involved (which he may or may not have violated), which violating is a felony (due to an obscure and unconstitutional law).

  7. "Aaron would be alive today if MIT had acted..." by timeOday · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So states the linked response by Taren Stinebrickner-Kauffman. Lately there has also been a lot of sympathy expressed for people who committed suicide after being bullied, gay-bashed, or slut-shamed. This could have bad effects. I think we should heap shame on those who did wrong (the bullies/bashers/shamers), rather than pity on those who killed themselves, since doing so makes suicide a very real and potentially attractive lever of power for young people. Suicide is contagious.

  8. "We want a review, but don't review our actions" by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Because we're not doing a review to correct any possible problems, we're doing a review so that we can tell people we did a review and didn't find any problems.

  9. MIT says MIT not guilty by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    Glad the truth finally came out in an independent investigation.

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  10. All the important facts are ignored. by intermodal · · Score: 2

    A young man is dead because the government set out to destroy his life over some documents. Beyond that, very little matters at this point.

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    1. Re:All the important facts are ignored. by Score+Whore · · Score: 1

      You make it sound like people without basic life skills should be allowed to ignore the law. That's absurd. There are literally millions of people who have had worse interactions with the government and spend much more time in much more difficult incarcerations than Mr. Swartz faced. If Mr. Swartz was particularly unable to deal with the world he should not have made such an effort to cause trouble for himself.

    2. Re:All the important facts are ignored. by intermodal · · Score: 1

      The problem with your argument is that he did not actually ignore the law. Mr. Swartz did have access to JSTOR and was authorized to access the material he accessed. At worst, he entered an IT closet. If he damaged any part of the closet, I wouldn't know, as I consider it such a minor matter as to be negligible in this case. Especially since he did have the right to have his laptop on that network.

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    3. Re:All the important facts are ignored. by intermodal · · Score: 1

      If you think "no reason" applies to this situation, you don't know much about how the feds get when they are trying to destroy a person as an example. They don't let the facts get away of "sending a message".

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  11. Re:"Aaron would be alive today if MIT had acted... by barlevg · · Score: 1

    IMO, that's what she was doing. She's not saying, "Poor Aaron--he just couldn't take the pressure," she's calling out MIT, if not for being bullies themselves, then at least for providing aid and comfort to the bullying prosecution.

  12. More background, New yorker article has more depth by citylivin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you are interested, a few months ago the new yorker had a great article detailing exactly what happened here with first hand interviews with most of the players. You can then make your own decisions.

    Requiem for a dream: the tragedy of aaron swartz

    What I got out of the article was 1) He was not trying to "make a statement" with his "hacking" action, but that was how the government portraited it. 2) He was very ecentric, and primarily seems to have killed himself because of what the legal action would have done to his future career. He had aspirations of running a foundation or becoming active in politics, and he felt that having a criminal record crippled his future. 3) One of the tipping points was having many of his personal correspondences subpenaed, as he was a very private person, which the government did solely to embarrass him, by making him and his girlfriends correspondences over the years, public.

    In the end though, I think he just over reacted. His suicide was his doing and no one elses. Sometimes life will try and break you down and if you give up, then you die. I think if he had more robust coping strategies he could have seen that this was just a speed bump on the road of life and not over reacted by killing himself. The "crimes" he committed were not really that bad, and prosecutors are going to be mean and aggressive - that is their job. However of course, I was not in his shoes, so who am i to judge.

    It is really just a tragedy.

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  13. MIT did nothing by Stargoat · · Score: 1

    By doing nothing, MIT implicitly condoned the prosecutor's infamous behavior. Neutrality was a pocket signature. They knew this and they persisted in their inaction.

    Even after the death of a person, MIT's refusal to condemn its actions shows a lack of moral courage. They should be ashamed of themselves.

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    Hoist Number One and Number Six.
    1. Re:MIT did nothing by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      By doing nothing, MIT implicitly condoned the prosecutor's infamous behavior. Neutrality was a pocket signature. They knew this and they persisted in their inaction.

      Even after the death of a person, MIT's refusal to condemn its actions shows a lack of moral courage. They should be ashamed of themselves.

      ...and in politer words, this is precisely what the conclusion of the report says, and goes one further to say that this kind of situation is precisely where MIT should be a LEADER, not avoiding by refusing to step in.

    2. Re:MIT did nothing by Stargoat · · Score: 1

      I disagree. MIT was involved. They did not step back from the process. They allowed the process to occur, knowing that the boy would end up in jail, dead, or both.

      --
      Hoist Number One and Number Six.
  14. Re:Regarding Taren Stinebrickner-Kauffman's respon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    the most MIT could complain about would've been a momentary spike in their bandwidth usage.

    ...and breaking & entering, trespassing an unauthorized access to a computer system.

  15. Re:Regarding Taren Stinebrickner-Kauffman's respon by Trepidity · · Score: 2

    I think JSTOR was taken aback by their sudden role in the case and has made some good moves since (starting with the decision to oppose prosecution in that case).

    There are a substantial number of librarians there, who tend to have fairly civic-minded views, and see themselves as on the pro-information-dissemination side of things. The main counteracting forces are: 1) for post-1923 journals, the journals rather than JSTOR ultimately own the copyright, so JSTOR has to work with them to be allowed to digitize them at all (and has perhaps in the past been too deferential to their views); and 2) as a slow-moving, somewhat conservative institution, they're focused more on traditional archival questions like how to preserve things for posterity, and what kinds of revenue streams will support that, and less on broadening current access.

    In the time since the Swartz case, they have made all out-of-copyright issues freely available, which is a move they could make unilaterally, and is a big increase in the amount of old journal content now available online, in high-quality scans with good metadata.

  16. Re:More background, New yorker article has more de by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He did have a robust coping strategy. The government simply stripped him of it. Thats why the case is fucked up.

    If I tell the media to publicize the possibility that you broke into a school, stolen millions of dollars of 'confidential' information and convince your family, friends and anyone else around you that you're already guilty; what kind of coping strategy are you left with?

    Oh and your personal assets have been frozen and you're now being watched by the authorities/media, so you can't run away. Oh and your ISP cut off your internet connection so you can't steal any more data/talk on Slashdot/online with anyone about it either, you evil hacker. Oh and you're probably going to jail, not counting time spent in the county jail/interrogation room(s). For over 20 years (maybe). Not that it matter now that you've been kicked out of school (kicked out for possible criminal activities? That will look good on a resume). And on the verge of becoming a convicted felon (cause copyright infringement!).

  17. What was MIT's duty here? by BitterOak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As far as I know, Aaron Swartz wasn't even a student, faculty member, or employee of MIT, so why does MIT have a duty to defend him? He was arrested for trespassing when he was in a networking closet where he had no business being. If someone breaks into your home, do you have a duty to defend them if they're prosecuted, even if they're being prosecuted over-zealously?

    --
    If I can be modded down for being a troll, can I be modded up for being an orc, or a balrog?
    1. Re:What was MIT's duty here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Let's be honest here.

      Maybe.

      If you did have a B&E and they were charged with...oh... call it use of a deadly weapon for having a screwdriver they used to open the door.

      Well... it shouldn't hold up and not really your problem.

      If they were your guest -- say, breaking into your guesthouse they rented and would've reimbursed you... then... yeah, you should defend that they had a right to be there even if not by that manner. They're your guest after all...

      But more interestingly, if they were a petty burgler, and charges were trumped up load of shit-- then you as a member of a civic society have a fucking DUTY to provide any relevant material in their defense. Even if you hate their guts for the crime they did commit.

      Sorry, we're a part of a collective society here... two wrongs don't make a right. Your duty is not just to yourself or your loved ones and friends, but to the collective 'us'. Including the criminal (and society) to have a just and fair trial with all relevant and applicable evidence and testimony.

      Punish people for the crimes they commit, not the ones they don't.

      I mean, I could hypothetically see your point about MIT not having a duty to the public... in fact, let's cut the public's duty to them too -- by immediately stripping them of all federally funded grants.

      Don't like it both ways?

  18. Re:More background, New yorker article has more de by jklovanc · · Score: 1

    If I tell the media to publicize the possibility that you broke into a school,

    Considering they had him on tape doing the break in and the equipment he left in the wiring closet, "possibility" does not apply here.

    Swartz knew there would be consequences for his action but was not prepared to accept them. If you can't do the time don't do the crime. If you want to be a political activist look at Nelson Mandela. He spent may years in prison for what he believed in and didn't kill himself.

  19. Re:Wrong by Seraphim1982 · · Score: 1

    Do you have a source for that? My understanding is that he was a research associate at Harvard.

  20. Re:"Aaron would be alive today if MIT had acted... by tnk1 · · Score: 1

    Yes, but the comment is still directly linking his suicide to the actions of MIT. If she'd really been trying to center her focus on MIT, she would have left the fact that Aaron killed himself out of that comment and just stated something like: "We feel MIT had a greater responsibility to academic freedom to act and that it has let down the community". Instead, she suicide shamed them, the words were just ordered in a different way.

    And since he died of suicide caused by depression, there is actually no way to know if he'd be alive today if MIT had acted. Maybe he'd have gone home and had a fight with Taren Stinebrickner-Kauffman a few weeks later, broken up, and then killed himself because he couldn't handle the break up. Depression doesn't just cause you to kill yourself in jail cells.

    I understand why his partner is obviously upset and emotional about the situation, but that doesn't make her comment constructive or accurate.

  21. "If you can't do the time don't do the crime" by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 1

    Every time people say this I refer them to the following link:

    http://threefelonies.com/Youtoo/tabid/86/Default.aspx

    It has been proven time and after time in history, that ANY criminal justice system is just a political tool for the elite ruling class to suppress those who try to unseat them.

    1. Re:"If you can't do the time don't do the crime" by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      Since what Swatrz did was none of these things and the things he did he knew were illegal that article does not apply to this situation.

  22. Re:More background, New yorker article has more de by tnk1 · · Score: 1, Redundant

    What? No, he didn't have a robust coping strategy. Unless you mean he had a robust coping strategy for dealing with threats at the level of internet trolls or something.

    He killed himself. There are people who are in jail for life who don't kill themselves. THAT is a robust coping strategy. Granted, he had a lot more to lose than your usual inmate, but did he think that he was going to just break the law and sort of get away with it?

    He didn't know what the heck he got himself into is what happened, but no way is that a death sentence. Not even necessarily with depression, although that's what did him in.

    Responsibility belongs where it is due. The government overreacted (as usual), but their practices, as bullshit as they are, do not have a common result of suicide at the end of them. Even with all the asset freezing and internet loss that you describe. It may have given him time to do a little too much overthinking of his situation, but that's about it.

  23. Re:"We want a review, but don't review our actions by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

    "Because we're not doing a review to correct any possible problems, we're doing a review so that we can tell people we did a review and didn't find any problems.

    ...except that the review found problems. Did you read it?

  24. Re:"We want a review, but don't review our actions by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

    Near the end of the report:

    In concluding this review, we recognize the desire for a simple take-away, a conclusion that “if MIT had only done this rather than that, things would have turned out OK.” We can’t offer one. There were too many choices, too many might-have-beens, too great an emotional shock, and a public response that has been supercharged by the power of the Internet, the same power that Aaron Swartz epitomized and that he helped to create. Even today, with the benefit of hindsight, we have not found a silver bullet with which MIT could have simply prevented the tragedy.

    If the Review Panel is forced to highlight just one issue for reflection, we would choose to look to the MIT administration’s maintenance of a “neutral” hands-off attitude that regarded the prosecution as a legal dispute to which it was not a party. This attitude was complemented by the MIT community’s apparent lack of attention to the ruinous collision of hacker ethics, open-source ideals, questionable laws, and aggressive prosecutions that was playing out in its midst. As a case study, this is a textbook example of the very controversies where the world seeks MIT’s insight and leadership.

  25. "didn't do anything wrong" by FuzzNugget · · Score: 2

    Would it be wrong to walk right by, completely ignore and not even dial 911 for a bloodied driver in a car wreck when you're the only one who could help? Would it be wrong to ignore the sight of several police officers ruthlessly beating on someone in the street if you had a camera in hand (or in pocket, as we all do) and were obscured enough that you could guarantee your own safety? If you see a child about to unwittingly run off a cliff and don't even do so much as say, "Hey kid! Watch out!", would that be wrong?

    There are lots of hypothetical situations where we could say we didn't do anything wrong. But when you willingly neglect to do the right thing, especially when it carries no potential of harm you, it amounts to the same.

    Maybe they didn't actively participate in any wrongdoing, but they are guilty as hell of willful ignorance.

  26. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. by gnujoshua · · Score: 1

    In the words of Bishop Desmond Tutu: "If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality."

    In the words of Elie Wiesel: "I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. "

    In the words of Dante Alighieri: "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

  27. Re:"Aaron would be alive today if MIT had acted... by couchslug · · Score: 1

    "Lately there has also been a lot of sympathy expressed for people who committed suicide after being bullied, gay-bashed, or slut-shamed. "

    I think that if someone is going to kill themselves over bad things others have done to them, their time might be better spent killing their enemies instead, or first.

    I have no enemies I know of, and lead a peaceful life. If I were so distressed by the actions of someone else that I was going to check out, I'd make damn sure they were deader than a pickled herring so they couldn't damage anyone else. If you are going to mort yourself anyway, why not make the world a bit cleaner first?

    --
    "This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
  28. Re:"Aaron would be alive today if MIT had acted... by timeOday · · Score: 1

    I think the fact they don't do that is an indication that depression is the main cause, rather than the abuse per se. Not that I'm an expert.

  29. MIT was a "dutiful" lap dog of the police state by Btrot69 · · Score: 1

    Remember that Aaron has a history of conflicts with the US Federal government that long preceded MIT/JSTOR.

    In Chicago in 2008, he liberated the pay-walled PACER federal court records.
    The FBI investigated and decided he didn't do anything wrong.

    He then embarrassed the FBI by doing a FOIA for his file, and posted it on his blog.
    This is when I first heard of Aaron -- It really made FBI look like the Keystone cops !

    Aaron then proved himself to be a very effective leader and organizer in the defeat of SOPA last year.

    Whenever, and for whatever reason, someone in power decided that he had to be "dealt with".
    They decided to sic two uncompromising careerist prosecutors on him.
    They might have only wanted to attach the "felon" label to discredit him, but both MIT and the prosecutors had been warned of Aaron's fragile mental state, and they pressed ahead. We know the result.
    Ortiz has now been politically "rewarded" with the Boston Bomber prosecution.

    MIT has shown itself to be a "dutiful" lap dog of the police state.
    This is, no doubt, why MIT intervened to block the FOIA request for Aaron's Secret Service file.

    But just the fact that a SECRET SERVICE file EXISTS -- shows where their instructions actually came from.