Want To Record Xbox One Gameplay? Get Ready To Pay
First time accepted submitter tocsy writes "Microsoft has seemingly not learned from their previous PR fiasco. According to the official site, some features as basic as recording and sharing gameplay videos will require a $60/year Xbox Live Gold account. PS4 owners will of course also have to pay for some online services, but recording and streaming will not be exclusive to Plus subscribers."
Every time they open their mouths they make the PS4 look better.
So what. Recording gameplay has always been easy enough for those who want to do it, and irrelevant for those that don't. The ability to record from the console itself is just another gimmick.
Microsoft has become excessively greedy, even for them.
Got a few hundred? This is all you need.
Or if the console supports component video out, problem solved.
The 360 didn't put HDCP on the HDMI. The PS3 did, so all the capture cards today tell you to use component in for the PS3.
... the reason all this nonsense is happening is because the game industry has seen the sick money from World of warcraft and F2P's and they want in on the action. Nintendo shutting down video's of people playing games and commenting them on youtube. The vast gaming masses are dumb stupid, passive, tech illiterate sheep. Gaming is suffering because of market expansion (aka appealing to the lowest common denominator).
The worst part about it is the kids and adults who defend this crap.
Is it really news that MS is requiring people to have a Gold account to use online features of an Xbox console? There's nothing going on here that wasn't already going on with the Xbox 360 ... except of course stirring up some more MS / Xbox One hate.
They are also putting OneGuide and Skype behind the Xbox Live Gold paywall. It looks like most of the new features they have added to Xbox One will require XBL Gold.The PS4 will let you record gameplay without a PS+ account.
The main difference I see in PS+ and Xbox Live Gold is that PS+ is per PS3/PS4 where Xbox Live Gold is per account. For those of us with families, that is a substantial difference. Both of my kids and myself would be able to play under the single PS+ account for $50, where for XBL Gold each of us would require our own account, bringing the total to $180.
why would i buy this compared to paying for 5 years of x box live?
some of you people are crazy. spend lots of money to bypass some feature that costs less than the workaround
I suspect this is not so much aimed at "hey, that video was recorded from an xbox" as "you can't use this xbox app that records and uploads your game footage without Gold", which is pretty much the same as they do for Netflix.
Might be FUD. GameDVR is a new in-game feature. They're not removing or restricting old functionality, afaik.
even fucking ouya has hdcp.
the membership fee is a big downer. my classic xbox cost me less than the fees for 3 years.
and no I don't really see what I'm getting for the money, I'm getting everything the membership gives for free on my pc connected to my tv. I don't need to pay MS extra for accessing netflix. I don't need to pay MS for hosting net games. I don't need to pay MS for playing multiplayer games online. I'm even using MS os on that pc connected to the tv!
you know what was the biggest bullshit about live gold? games like halo4. want to go online with a friend, splitscreen? well fuck you BOTH need to pay for live gold! FUCK 'EM.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
there are $30 chinese hdmi splitters/switches that also strip hdcp, but dont advertise it
Who logs in to gdm? Not I, said the duck.
some of you people are crazy. spend lots of money to bypass some feature that costs less than the workaround
Lots of people will do things that are against their immediate economic interests to bring social pressures to bear on those who are behaving badly towards the community. It's called spite.
My God, it's Full of Source!
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some of you people are crazy. spend lots of money to bypass some feature that costs less than the workaround
Yea, but they get to hand money over to a different corporation. So, you know, like, totally different, man.
Fight the power!
An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
Yeah, this article is biased, but not incorrect. Namely, they forgot to point out that the PS4, for the first time in the console history, will require its subscription (PlayStation Plus) for online play. Here's a more even take on how both consoles are ramping up their profits: http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/pay-play-xbox-one-playstation-4-differ-premium-features-6C10874607.
You were critically hit for no damage. The bruise will look nice, and maybe the scars will make good party talk.
It sounds like the spreadsheet wielding MBAs have completely taken over Microsoft. Spreadsheet thinking is an easy trap to fall into. You put up all your costs, and all your revenues and look at the bottom line. Then you start slipping in the occasional extra bit of revenue and suddenly the bottom line numbers start to grow like balloon. The key problem is that some numbers are hard factual numbers such as reducing the quality of the plastic will save you a fairly specific amount of money. But the problem is that a change of that nature may impact things like the reviews, return rates, breakage during shipping, etc. These numbers just come out of their ass and can end up being very optimistic. But you aren't looking at just one MBA with his spreadsheet but dozens all running their little fiefdoms and making their own adjustments.
I'm not saying they shouldn't make a profit but that they often don't match the weight of the pros and cons of each decision. For example. How hard do you have to push a faithful XBox 360 user to switch to the PS4 instead of buying the new XBox? Or like XP might many Xbox users stick with the 360 instead of going to XBox Vista? Then when they start trying to poison the 360 well the users might switch to the PS4. Even more complicated is that many people might be getting their gaming from their mobile devices. Would people abandon the console for a mobile device. These are all very hard questions to quantify and thus properly spreadsheet. So the MBAs argue that action X will annoy 1% of users while adding 10% to revenue. The 10% is probably close. The 1% is just a wacky guess.
It's called upselling
Red hat and all the open source companies do it as well. And google
there is no HDCP on the HDMI out on the xbone for gameplay.
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-15728-Xbox-One-s-Gameplay-Recording-Facility-Won-t-Use-HDCP.html
I'll bite. I run Steam on Windows and OSX, my Windows client lists 257 games. The same library on OSX amass 167 games, and 83 on Linux.
Yeah, Linux compatibility is a fraction of Windows Steam titles, but not that low.
Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all
Yeah, Linux compatibility is a fraction of Windows Steam titles...
As an utter jackass, I feel compelled to point out that every rational number, even those greater than one, are fractions.
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
Until you "hold it wrong".
You missed the first definition, and all of the wit:
1. A numerical quantity that is not a whole number
Or, you could consider that the default dictionary is simply wrong. Improper fractions representing whole numbers are still fractions, and that limited scope doesn't even cover all of the fields that use the word "fraction". Try this one instead. It's a more complete set of definitions, but it does lack that particular insulting quality that you seem to hold so dear.
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
I will never buy xbox live again because it was so impossible to cancel the last time.
"you know what was the biggest bullshit about live gold? games like halo4. want to go online with a friend, splitscreen? well fuck you BOTH need to pay for live gold!"
What?? Are you being serious? That's not true, you can have friends sign into your Xbox with the Guest Live account and play multiplayer on the same Xbox with just one account.
Sarten-X is 100% correct — and his original post was hilarious in my opinion. Fractions do not need to be less than 1 (or greater than -1, for that matter). Common English definitions are irrelevant here; this is a mathematical definition.
Boy, that exciting and compelling Ouya game library!
I always thought the main point of HDCP was to prevent precious Hollywood movies leaking out of DVD land and on to Torrent. It only takes one determined hacker to render that purpose useless, even if you have (bonus!) managed to make millions of innocent users' lives more difficult in the process.
But then that's the DRM story all over, isn't it.
Implying playing a PC requires any skill with all these mice and keyboards, huge screens, comfortable surroundings. If you want to see skill go to your local warzone or failing that paintball arena.
2 is an excellent fraction of 3 and, indeed, of many other fine numbers. :)
pi is an irrational number, 2 is rational.
Both fractions, only 2 can be represented as a perfect fraction.
I *think* pi can only be represented as a vulgar fraction.
A-level maths, however, was a very long time ago...
For the last 6 years I've been getting a great online experience
And if you want to get online to play on MS's servers, that's legitimate as they have to pay for the infrastructure. The issue comes when they do stupid shit like restricting Netflix to a Gold account. WHY? It costs them nothing for you to run Netflix, so the only reason for this is greed.
Gameplay recording I could also see being a paid/premium feature if it uses MS's servers.
But in terms of a great online experience: When I compare my xb360 from when I first got it to now, it has gone from a relatively easy-to-use and clean interface to an ad-laden piece-of-shit which constantly tries to upsell "premium" features and sales at the expense of usability.