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Have eBooks Peaked?

An anonymous reader writes "At Rough Type, Nicholas Carr examines the surprisingly sharp drop in the growth rate for e-book sales. In the U.S., the biggest e-book market, annual sales growth dropped to just 5% in the first quarter of this year, according to the Association of American Publishers, while the worldwide e-book market actually shrank slightly, according to Nielsen. E-books now account for about 25% of total U.S. book sales — still a long way from the dominance most people expected. Carr speculates about various reasons e-books may be losing steam. He wonders in particular about 'the possible link between the decline in dedicated e-readers (as multitasking tablets take over) and the softening of e-book sales. Are tablets less conducive to book buying and reading than e-readers were?' He suggests that the e-book may end up playing a role more like the audiobook — a complement to printed books rather than a replacement."

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  1. Piracy! by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's piracy! We need to make reading a felony!

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    1. Re:Piracy! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Here's the reason I rarely buy e-books: A used paper book is usually cheaper. On Amazon a used book is often only $0.01 (plus $3.99 shipping). When I am done reading it, I drop it off at the local Goodwill, which then sells it on Amazon.

    2. Re:Piracy! by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      You are right, I should have just quoted them directly. Forgive me for my cynicism.. the recent news of how Apple and the publishers recently won a consumers' award for fair competition must have slipped my mind.

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    3. Re:Piracy! by seyfarth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I frequently face the same issue. The solution is to drop the price of e-books. I suggest less than 50% of the printed book price. I find it frustrating to see an e-book for $10 when a printed one is $12. I can easily resell or give away the printed book, which makes it a lot more valuable. If the e-book were $6, then perhaps I wouldn't care for the printed copy. Also a printed copy for $4 with shipping is not a big deal versus $6.

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    4. Re:Piracy! by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Here's the reason I rarely buy e-books: A used paper book is usually cheaper. On Amazon a used book is often only $0.01 (plus $3.99 shipping). When I am done reading it, I drop it off at the local Goodwill, which then sells it on Amazon.

      For me, it's not price, although I do think that e-books should be priced a lot cheaper because they cost a lot less to produce. No, the main reason is that I know that I'll still have the book I bought when I hit retirement. It's still readable.
      With e-books, I know no such thing.
      What I do know is that the books I bought in PeanutPress/eReader format (Peanutpress got bought by Palm who sold it to Motricity who sold it to Fictionwise who sold it to Barnes & Noble), I can no longer download or change the lock on. B&N killed it, with no compensation to the customers.
      They can't do that with paper books. They're mine, and will be readable in my retirement years too.

    5. Re:Piracy! by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 3, Informative

      Calibre.

      It can change your eBook format from pretty much any format to any other. I buy them, change the to ePub (unencrypted), and I'm good, forever.

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    6. Re:Piracy! by Miamicanes · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's because ebooks are a piss poor substitute for paper books. They're underpowered, lack 2D acceleration relevant to font-rendering, tend to store data in flash that's connected via the slowest and least-random-access-agile means possible, and basically suck as a reading experience. I have lots of ebooks, most of which have never really been read because the readers piss me off and distract me too badly from the actual task of reading.

      Flipping pages feels like wading through wet concrete, and a computer-literate high school student circa 1990 probably did a better job laying out school papers in Pagemaker than most ebooks. Even pdf versions feel half-baked... like they just let some automated algorithm rip through the layout for the real book, and nobody bothered to make sure that the output actually looked good. I've seen ebooks from big-name technical publishers render with weird pdf errors (a random mangled unicode character, maybe a few characters where the kerning engine just vomited something vaguely resembling mashed-together text onto a page, etc).

      Epub tends to not have the mangled kerning and wacky rendering problems, but THOSE ebooks tend to just look like someone blindly converted the professionally-typeset book to html-like layout and let it land wherever random luck happened to reflow it.

      Then, there's Kindle... where even on a fast PC, flipping to random pages inexplicably brings the whole program to its knees for a second or two while it seemingly struggles to get its act together, and it just plain *intolerably* slow and laggy for random-access tech book reading.

      There's really no nicer way to say it... ebooks, in their current form, are a miserable failure for anything besides reading novels from start to finish. Much of it is just due to underpowered hardware. 2D text isn't sexy like photorealistic rendered 3D, but realtime font rendering at high quality is a demanding (and unappreciated) task in its own right. OpenGL desperately needs hardware-level support for spline acceleration, smoothing, hinting, and everything else. There are some interesting ways you can use OpenGL to render individual glyphs, but with all the ram and T&L processing they have, it's still not enough to pre-define complete triangle-based definitions for 3 font families in 4 styles (normal, bold, italic, bold+italic with even a single UTF-8 codepage, like the one corresponding to ISO-8859-1, let alone even a tiny subset of a language like Chinese.

      In a way, triangle-based high-quality font rendering vs photorealistic 3D is kind of like 720p60 vs 1080i60. People who don't understand what's going on behind the scenes tend to think the latter is a harder task, but when you do the real math, you quickly discover that it's actually the FIRST item in the pair that's the truly *demanding* task, simply because unlike the second item in the pair, the first generally doesn't allow you to cut corners and hide your sins... they get splattered in full public view for everyone to see, and there's nowhere to hide them.

    7. Re:Piracy! by Xicor · · Score: 2

      i buy e-textbooks because they are 90% cheaper than a real book. that being said, i would NEVER pay the same amount for an ebook as a hardcopy

    8. Re:Piracy! by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Informative

      Right. At least for the small values of forever in which Kovid Goyal and contributors remain interested in the Calibre project enough to keep it going, after which you have to maintain the code yourself if you want it to keep working.

      You don't need Calibre to convert it every time you read it. You do it once. Therefore, even if Calibre stops working in the future, that doesn't prevent you from using the books that you've already converted. Hence, "forever".

      And the small values of forever in which ePub is a supported format on the devices available to you when your old ones stop working.

      Ignoring a handful of special metadata files in their own quirky XML format, (DRM-free) EPUB is nothing more than a zipped folder full of HTML files and PNG/GIF/JPG images (and, occasionally, SVG). Given that HTML is now 23 years old and is still rapidly growing in popularity, and that ZIP is even slightly older, and that both are absolutely ubiquitous as technologies go, barring a technology-destroying nuclear holocaust or some similar catastrophe setting us all back to the stone age, I think it's safe to say that with minimal effort, you'll be able to continue reading EPUB books for at least the remainder of your lifetime, and probably for the remainder your grandchildren's lifetimes.

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    9. Re:Piracy! by Immerman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And *that* I think is the heart of the issue. Most publishers seem to charge as much or more for the ebook version, despite the fact that the incremental cost of an e-book approaches zero. Lets see some of those cost savings passed on to the consumer, and get rid of the ridiculous DRM that prevents me from actually owning the book, and then lets talk. In the meantime I'll stick to Project Gutenberg and DRM-free niche publishers.

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    10. Re:Piracy! by Immerman · · Score: 2

      It's a book. It doesn't need any of the bling of a 90s web page, in fact most 90s (and 00s) web pages would have been better off without it too. Just a plain text file with minimal formatting, some metadata, and maybe an occasional picture thrown in. Do that and it'll work and look fine. Do you have fine control over appearance? No. The typesetting is done by the device, and that's okay. Very few people will consciously notice the difference between masterful typesetting and that done by some college halfwit, and if the device is halfway decent it will do a better job than the halfwit. And one of these days hopefully someone will decide to integrate something like the LATEX typesetting engine into an e-reader and give ebooks that subtle added beauty boost.

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    11. Re:Piracy! by Phoghat · · Score: 2

      and get rid of the ridiculous DRM that prevents me from actually owning the book, and then lets talk. In the meantime I'll stick to Project Gutenberg and DRM-free niche publishers.

      Remove DRM, organize your library and all for free with Calibre

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  2. Definitions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think the word you're looking for is "plateaued". Does no-one do calculus any more?

    1. Re: Definitions by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      And it's not "ebook sales", it should read "ebook rental license" since you don't own the ebook like you do an actual book.

      Which probably explains, in large part, why sales are plateauing.

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    2. Re: Definitions by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

      There are programs out there that help you solve that problem.

  3. Disappearance of E-Ink by ElementOfDestruction · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Vendors are flogging tablets over E-ink; why get a one trick pony when you can have a multi-tasker.

    Truth is, the one-trick pony feels much better on the eyes after reading for any extended amount of time. Staring at a backlit LCD just burns out your retinas, and changes reading from a relaxing experience to a tolerable situation.

    1. Re:Disappearance of E-Ink by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, but what you read it on greatly influences your experience.

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    2. Re:Disappearance of E-Ink by rolfwind · · Score: 2

      As for the Kindle Paperwhite....I read that there is little difference between reflected light (off a page) and one coming from behind a page like paper white. Of course, you can do something like not have enough ambient lighting and it would be like staring at a (low powered) light bulb in a dark room, but barring that, why would there be eyestrain and headaches? Of course, there's no constant refresh rates of the text like a LCD screen, except for the backlights which all CFL/LED lighting is subject to. I assume people can read at night with energy saving lightbulb without too much bother?

      The real reason to me to get a kindle over a table for reading is simply the weight difference. The tablets I held would be uncomfortable compared to a 6" kindle which easily weighs the same as or less than a fiction paperback.

    3. Re:Disappearance of E-Ink by cusco · · Score: 2

      No in a hundred years. I tried reading a book on my phone, and it was a miserable experience. I see people on the bus doing it, but having to scroll constantly is very annoying. I like the form factor of the Nexus 7, if I could make it my phone and just use the bluetooth headset I'd be a happy camper.

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    4. Re:Disappearance of E-Ink by Wordplay · · Score: 4, Informative

      Even the new Kindle Paperwhite is meant to be used with a backlight, increasing the likelihood of headaches and eyestrain.

      Unfortunately, this is one of those cases where people just aren't informed enough

      ...for example, they think that the Kindle Paperwhite is backlit.

      It's sidelit. That means the light comes from the front, diffused across the screen via a fiber optic mesh, reflects on the screen, and then back at you.

      It doesn't have any of the problems that backlit devices do, and is extremely similar to reading with a booklight--except for the not having to carry a booklight part.

      Nook Glow is the same basic tech.

    5. Re:Disappearance of E-Ink by msauve · · Score: 4, Informative

      As for the Kindle Paperwhite.... there is zero difference between reflected light (off a page), because the Paperwhite is not backlit. There's a diffuser sheet on top of the screen, and the built-in light reflects off the e-ink display the same as room light does.

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    6. Re:Disappearance of E-Ink by mark-t · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The problem isn't backlighting, per se... it has to do with the difference between how bright what you are looking at is lit compared to ambient lighting... the pupils in your eyes adjust according to how much light they are receiving, and if what you are looking at is too much more brightly lit than your surroundings, it's going to feel like you are reading while staring into a flashlight. If, however (mostly because of limitations in most current backlit display technologies), the display is not brightly lit, then there will not be enough contrast on the display to actually read it. LCD readers which try to adjust their brightness dynamically based on surrounding lighting might mitigate this to a certain extent, but they are still only usable within a relatively narrow range of lighting conditions compared to what conditions a person could comfortably read a book in.

    7. Re:Disappearance of E-Ink by rolfwind · · Score: 2

      You can adjust the brightness of the Kindle Paperwhite.

    8. Re:Disappearance of E-Ink by Clsid · · Score: 2

      Not to mention that the amazing battery life is something that I really enjoy from e-ink devices. I truly believe that with e-ink devices we are facing the situation of the very good light bulb, it became so good that afterwards nobody wanted to replace it, so the factory had to shut down.

    9. Re:Disappearance of E-Ink by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, the Paperwhite readers (and Kobo Glo) use frontlighting not backlighting. Much less eye-strain, and one research study suggests less disruptive to sleep when used in the evening.

      My Kindle Paperwhite is much less disruptive to sleep than my iPad, but it has nothing to do with the lighting. It has to do with the weight. The iPad is heavy enough that falling asleep and dropping it on my face hurts enough to wake me up. The Kindle is light enough that I can take one to the face and keep sleeping.

  4. Sure... by Mashiki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because they're charging the same price as a paperback, or hardcover, sometimes even more.

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    1. Re:Sure... by RazzleFrog · · Score: 2

      I don't find that to be the case - at least with nook. Nooks are almost always cheaper than hardcover and sometimes cheaper than paperbacks. They also sometimes have sales on nooks but not on the paper version.

    2. Re:Sure... by hawguy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Because they're charging the same price as a paperback, or hardcover, sometimes even more.

      And eBooks typically cost more than twice the price of used paperbacks. And I can give the paperback to someone else after I'm done or sell it again for a couple dollars so it's even cheaper.

      I really like my Kindle (the paperwhite with backlight is great for reading in bed without disturbing my partner - better than the clip-on book light) and prefer reading on the Kindle over reading paper books, but not so much that i'll pay twice what it costs to have a used book delivered to my door. My kindle to paper book ratio is about 3:1 -- lately I've only been buying Kindle books when I travel.

      I know the publishing industry says they can't sell eBooks any cheaper, so they will continue to get very little money from me as I stick with used books.

    3. Re:Sure... by laura20 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yup. They are greedy; they want all that sweet extra crash - and despite the attempts of people to mau mau the numbers to convince the naive that ebooks cost as much for the producers as paper books, it's simply not true. The fact they don't have to factor in the risk cost of returns alone makes them vastly cheaper, even before considering materials costs and storage and transportation costs.

      I'm simply not going to pay hardback prices for an ebook, and I suspect there are plenty of others who feel the same way.

    4. Re:Sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      $1 per book once it hits paperback, and you'll see ebooks rocket, ereaders become the next big thing, and therefore, people will be lapping up cheap content. Spending $15 on a book that's available for less in a B&M store puts people off. Maybe a buck is too low, perhaps $3 will be a sweet spot. There's too much shit available from self-published wannabies right now. Proper books will still sell on paper, a lot of us prefer the media, but there's a whole planet of people that will buy books. Once they've committed to some hardware, whether that's a kindle of other e-ink device doesn't matter, they'll be looking to load it up.

      Publishers need to face reality, their wares will make a lot more money for them and the authors, once e-books aren't a total and complete fucking rip-off.

    5. Re:Sure... by ideonexus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This.

      Why should I pay $9.99 for an ebook that can be taken away from me anytime Amazon wants, can't be lent out or given away, and can't be resold? When I buy a real book, it's an investment. I can resell it, donate it to my local library, or buy other real books from used book sellers for $0.99. My wife's grandmother just passed away, and her family let me take a wealth of old books from her collection. All the money she spent on those books over her lifetime has transferred to her children and grandchildren. When I die, the hundreds--maybe thousands--of dollars spent on my ebook collection dies with me.

      I love my kindle. I love reading ebooks. I love highlighting, clipping, and making notes in them, but there's a very tough tradeoff here. Real books are a material investment, ebooks are ephemeral.

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  5. Same price ? by PIBM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You pay the same price, but then you can't lend them easily to your friends or resell them, you can't rent them from the local library, depending on the device used, annotating or marking the pages is not effective and can't easily be shared between two people reading the same book at the same time (keep slowly browsing through to get to the current page), and you need to have that device charged up (more or less a problem depending on the device type). Beside having it instantly and the lighting on the kindle paperwhite / kobo glow for night reading, there's not much to like :(

  6. "KindleNook Writer" by the Beatles by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

    As prices have risen, quite frankly, I might as well order a paperback. Much nicer to hold and read.

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    1. Re:"KindleNook Writer" by the Beatles by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 2

      Several of my preferred authors write VERY large books. Reading them on my Kindle is much less painful than holding one of those monster books.

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  7. More buck for the bang? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Perhaps it may have to do something with the price fixing scandal?

    (I love it when publishers tell the public that e-books can't get cheaper because paper isn't actually that much of an expense and people need to get paid for the work, while the authors and translators are told in private that they can't get paid more because "paper and the printer shop costs too much".)

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    1. Re:More buck for the bang? by jkonrath · · Score: 5, Informative

      From http://journal.bookfinder.com/2009/03/breakdown-of-book-costs.html (Slightly old)...
      Based on a list price of $27.95
      - $3.55 - Pre-preduction - This amount covers editors, graphic designers, and the like
      - $2.83 - Printing - Ink, glue, paper, etc
      - $2.00 - Marketing - Book tour, NYT Book Review ad, printing and shipping galleys to journalists
      - $2.80 - Wholesaler - The take of the middlemen who handle distribution for publishers
      - $4.19 - Author Royalties - A bestseller like Grisham will net about 15% in royalties, lesser known authors get less. Subtract the author's agent fees and self-employment taxes from that, too.
      - $12.58 - profit for the retailer.

      In the case of an ebook, you're removing the $2.83 in printing.

      You might be removing some of the wholesaling cost, but you might be using Ingram to do your wholesaling if you're a big company. If you're self-publishing, you might be using something like BookBaby or Smashwords. Yes, you can go to KDP and register your own book yourself, but if you're selling in multiple places or selling multiple books, you're going to use a middle-man to handle cataloging, recordkeeping, and listing things in multiple places. If it's more than $2.80 in headaches, you use a distributor.

      Marketing, pre-production, royalties all don't change. (Or they get squeezed, and you get exactly what's going on right now, which is authors complaining "they don't pay us or market us or do a good job editing us like the good old days.")

      As for that $12.58 of supposed profit, here's the interesting thing - Amazon doesn't sell books at list price. John Grisham's new book, The Racketeer, is an example. List price: $28.95. Yours for only $19.81 in paper.

      I'm not saying that ebook prices should be equal to the price of a printed book, but removing the printing doesn't suddenly make a book cost a dollar or even five dollars.

    2. Re:More buck for the bang? by radtea · · Score: 2

      Let's assume that the initial print run is 5000 (apparently not atypical in the US for hardcovers: http://www.ian-irvine.com/publishing.html, see "Lesson 11"). That $3.55 for pre-production comes to almost $18,000. Given how poorly edited most books are, and the degree to which layout is automated (I've created both e-books and print books myself, with purely open source tools, and can script the whole process so a monkey could do the work with a push-button) that seems like a huge amount of money.

      I'm not saying you're wrong, just saying that everything I know about traditional publishers points to them being fantasitically inefficient organizations, whose bloated processes are preserved simply by their scale, and the way the marketing channels for books create large barriers to entry for smaller presses.

      While it's true that "a score is not an album", that hardly proves that Indie bands cannot exist and thrive, and independent authors should be the Next Big Thing in publishing. We're still about a decade behind muscians in this, I think, but it'll happen, and when it does e-books will be the place it happens.

      Editing and production are just not that difficult, and freelance professional editors are surprisingly cheap (results, however, vary markedly even while prices do not.)

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  8. You can't build a library with an e-reader by rolfwind · · Score: 2

    Forgoing the DRM on music in Itunes did not kill the music industry, but that's what all the book publishers act like.

    So all we're offered is lock-in, can't loan to friends, etc.

    I don't even enjoy owning physical copies of anything, but with the digital copies I'm allowed to own outright and with as I please in private, I tend to buy (music), with the digital copies where they take every DRM step (movies) or go above that and lock me in (amazon, ebooks), I tend to either rent (netflix), get the physical copy and rip (DVDs), or borrow (Amazon Once a month or whatever library).

  9. Apple by jbolden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Something not mentioned was Apple pushing the price of ebooks up often by 25%. In general the main reason I haven't switched is that from Amazon used I frequently can get print books much cheaper than the corresponding ebooks. At the time ebooks were surging ebook prices were crashing and there was a huge difference between the ebook and the printed book price. Perhaps, not unreasonably, many people prefer printed books and given a high ebook price there weren't be a cut over.

  10. Economics -- a pricing failure by coats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With paperbacks, my typical behavior is to buy the book, read it, and then donate it to charity (at a retail used-book valuation) for a tax write-off. Given my marginal tax rate (state and federal combined), the net cost of the book is about 65% of face-value.

    With E-books, I can't do that "donate to charity", so the face-value is the net cost, which seems to be about 10% under the paperback price.

    E-book prices need to come down by at least 25% in order to become economically competitive for me.

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    1. Re:Economics -- a pricing failure by Princeofcups · · Score: 3, Interesting

      E-book prices need to come down by at least 25% in order to become economically competitive for me.

      Except publishers do not want to sell e-books. Let me rephrase that. Publishers want to price e-books so high that people continue to buy paper books. Why? That's their business. They cannot conceive of a business with different distribution channels. The collusion between publishers was not to make more money off of e-books. It was to make sure that the prices are so high that it will not eat into their traditional sales. Something will come along to change the business, but not until a few rich fucks die or are bought out.

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  11. eBooks are an easy sell to the uninformed by bazmail · · Score: 2, Interesting

    60% of the cost of publishing a traditional best selling dead-wood book is printing and distribution. With those costs zeroed by ebook publishing, prices have not come down. Add to this the DRM and onerous terms and conditions (you are buying a conditional license to read the book, you don't "own" it). It is illegal to lend the ebook to somebody, illegal to resell (also technically troublesome), probably also illegal to read aloud as that might count as public performance. So fuck publishers, DRM and eBooks.

    1. Re:eBooks are an easy sell to the uninformed by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Informative

      60% of the cost of publishing a traditional best selling dead-wood book is printing and distribution.

      [[Citation Needed.]] Seriously, every reputable analysis I've ever seen (like this one from Money magazine) places that figure much lower.

  12. e-readers, Paperwhite and Tablets by QuasiSteve · · Score: 2

    I'll actually start with the Paperwhite, considering I own one. I rarely use the backlight feature and when I do, rarely at full. In daylight and full sunlight, it's completely unneeded and reading is awesome. Indoors as long as you have decent lighting, still not needed - same as a book. If it's dimmer, adding a little backlight can be nice just to get greater contrast, but it does make my eyes tired more quickly. However, whether that's the backlight, the general lack of ambient light, or the fact that most of those situations tend to be at the end of the day when I'm likely to be tired anyway, I can't really determine.

    As for e-readers vs tablets.. e-readers were initially much cheaper and their very marketing prowess were the ease-on-eyes and the longevity of the battery (5 weeks into vacation, still haven't had to recharge my paperwhite), whereas the tablets were fairly bulky, pricey, with low battery life and not all that much you could do with them.
    Fast forward to now, and tablets get reasonable battery life, are almost all thin and light enough to carry around casually, and cheap enough that I see people getting one for each of their kids to use in the car/etc. And adults, just as kids, don't use these tablets to read. Not because they're necessarily awful to read on, but because they find greater entertainment in playing games (candy crush seems popular around here, along with my singing monsters for those with ipads), watching movies/TV shows, or browsing (mostly youtube).

    Personally I'd still love to see a best-of-both-worlds type display (I suppose velcro'ing an e-reader to the back of a tablet will have to do for now), but I suspect that most people would still be using the result mostly for interactive and video content. But at least if they wanted to read a book there's the eye-friendly display.

  13. Tablet Sales by eskwayrd · · Score: 2

    The predominant tablet also takes a 30% cut of in-app purchases, so not so enticing to sell e-books via the apps available.

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  14. Re:pay to play by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

    And I guess you get your internet connection free since you don't believe in paying for non-durable goods.

    OP never said they "didn't believe in paying for non-durable goods," they said, "when there is absolutely no price benefit, why buy a non durable good?"

    Completely different, and a sentiment I agree with.

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  15. Re:Lets Hope So! by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

    From your link:

    You can lend a Kindle book to another reader for up to 14 days.

    and

    A book can only be loaned one time. Magazines and newspapers are currently not available for lending.

    Only being able to loan a book to 1 person, EVER, and only for 2 weeks, doesn't really qualify as "loanable." At least in the sense OP is talking about.

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  16. rate of growth by kqc7011 · · Score: 2

    The market share is still expanding, just at a slower rate. Most of us have a basic library of e-books already and are not buying as much as we used to. If the price difference between a electronic published and one printed on paper is not that great, then the tree dies. When a paper book is not one that I am going to read again, off it goes to the used book store for credit on my account. Try doing that with a e-book. Where is this survey getting its data? If the numbers are coming from Association of American Publishers and they (the AAP) are using the big 5's reports then this could be a GIGO problem.

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    Passionately Indifferent
  17. Re:Take a LOSS? A LOSS on eBooks? by west · · Score: 2

    Unfortunately, since most books are selling less ~3,000 copies, almost very few books, e-book or otherwise, make a profit.

  18. The limiting factor is time, not money by west · · Score: 2

    Almost everyone I know with an e-book reader went nuts buying cheap books until they had a few hundred book in the unread pile. Unfortunately, they've got adult jobs, and thus limited time to read. Their book buying went from 10 times normal rate back down to the normal rate.

    I think a lot of people in the industry were hoping that revenue per reader was going to stay constant, even if the readers were buying 5 times as many books at 1/5 the price. Now reality is sinking in. With cheap e-books, people *might* buy 50% more books, which is still a huge decrease in industry income. This is not a merry time to be a publisher, an author, or to have anything to do with the book industry.

    However, once the publishers are gone, Amazon should do very well in the self-published market. Not with readers, of course - who has time to sift through hundreds of books to find the odd readable one. But with desperate authors who want to get promoted. I figure $25K to get a book to show up decently in the Amazon listings is going to make a lot more revenue than Amazon did from selling books.

    It'll just suck if you want to read anything.

  19. William Shakespeare and one's anglophone card by tepples · · Score: 2

    I think the obsession with William Shakespeare is that a lot of memes of the past four centuries have come from his plays. Just as geeks are expected to be familiar with plots of and quotations from certain movies in order to keep their proverbial geek card, anglophones are expected to be familiar with plots of and quotations from Shakespeare's plays to earn what I'll call their "anglophone card." Now the problem with my high school English department was that not only was Shakespeare overrepresented but also the only plays we studied were six of his tragedies, not any comedies or histories.

  20. Ebooks actually account for a majority of sales by mgiltz · · Score: 2

    Huh? But the story says ebooks only account for 25% of sales. Yes, but that's the dollar amount. Look at unit sales. The majority of units sold are ebooks; they just happen to be a lot cheaper. We've just reached the point where more than 50% of actual books sold are in the ebook format. MOST books sold in the US are in the ebook format and the Kindle was only introduced six years ago. That's an amazingly quick adaptation. Wool by Hugh Howey for example is only $6 for the ebook five-parter omnibus edition. At Amazon, it's $9 in paperback and $18 in hardcover. You can find examples where ebooks cost more but even from major publishers they're usually equal or less. Self-published authors of course have ebooks for $3 or $2 or free all the time. This also doesn't take into account the literally endless downloads of public domain titles. You can access literally hundreds of thousands if not millions of titles for free. I've downloaded the complete Dickens and the complete Twain for just a dollar or two each. So ebooks already are preferred a majority of the time and we're probably undercounting by how much. This trend will continue and probably accelerate if and when Barnes & Noble goes out of business or just continues taking away floor space from books and giving it to games and stationery and the like. I do prefer a dedicated ereader to even the best tablet. I never thought I'd abandon print but when you're trying to read a doorstop like the recent Winston Churchill bio or Game of Thrones or War and Peace et al, the idea that anyone could argue print is more convenient is absurd.