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Request to Falsify Data Published In Chemistry Journal

New submitter Jim_Austin writes "A note inadvertently left in the 'supplemental information' of a journal article appears to instruct a subordinate scientist to fabricate data. Quoting: 'The first author of the article, "Synthesis, Structure, and Catalytic Studies of Palladium and Platinum Bis-Sulfoxide Complexes," published online ahead of print in the American Chemical Society (ACS) journal Organometallics, is Emma E. Drinkel of the University of Zurich in Switzerland. The online version of the article includes a link to this supporting information file. The bottom of page 12 of the document contains this instruction: "Emma, please insert NMR data here! where are they? and for this compound, just make up an elemental analysis ..." We are making no judgments here. We don't know who wrote this, and some commenters have noted that "just make up" could be an awkward choice of words by a non-native speaker of English who intended to instruct his student to make up a sample and then conduct the elemental analysis. Other commenters aren't buying it.'"

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  1. Why bother with the panic? by fey000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The beauty of (natural) science is that you can replicate the results. Why spark a debate (which is more in social sciences ballpark) when you can just run the experiments and validate the statement that way? The paper would only omit important analysis steps if a patent is involved, something that the title of the paper does not imply.

    1. Re:Why bother with the panic? by Wootery · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why spark a debate (which is more in social sciences ballpark) when you can just run the experiments and validate the statement that way?

      Err, "just"?

      I'm no chemist, but I don't imagine cutting-edge chemical experiments are something you just do.

      Also, you're completely missing the point. Falsification of science absolutely should be a big deal. The person responsible should face serious consequences, and hopefully it remains rare enough that it's big news.

    2. Re:Why bother with the panic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's no proof they did falsify anything...

    3. Re:Why bother with the panic? by Cyberax · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yes, that's a known problem in chemistry. So there's a growing movement to require an independent lab to replicate results before publishing - Reproducibility Initiative. See: http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2012/08/14/reproducing_scientific_results_on_purpose.php

    4. Re:Why bother with the panic? by ebno-10db · · Score: 5, Informative

      The beauty of (natural) science is that you can replicate the results.

      Spoken from a true armchair POV. Trying to replicate results can be very expensive and time consuming. Furthermore, failure to replicate results does not immediately invalidate the original work, as there can be all kinds of legitimate explanations. Either party may have simply made a mistake, or there may be some critical variable that isn't yet recognized. Fraud in science is a very serious matter, a major impediment and expense, and unfortunately can be very difficult to prove. Therefore when it is found it should be punished severely.

    5. Re:Why bother with the panic? by noh8rz10 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Way to go, fellow slashdotters. Be rude to women and drive them away. don't you get it that we win from a diversity of opinions? maybe you think you're being funny, but it's actually just hateful and hurtful to everybody here. besides, everybody has a mother! would you say those things to your mother?

    6. Re:Why bother with the panic? by Muros · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Falsification of science absolutely should be a big deal. The person responsible should face serious consequences, and hopefully it remains rare enough that it's big news.

      I agree with the sentiment, but I am inclined to believe the "awkward choice of words by a non-native speaker of English" argument. It's not like that particular choice of words is even unambiguous to native speakers; if I said "I'm going to make up a batch of beer", friends will be calling around looking for a drink.

    7. Re:Why bother with the panic? by jythie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, I am thinking back to all the drama around the word choice for using a 'trick' on data. No implication of falsification, but the word choice got people up in a tissy.

    8. Re:Why bother with the panic? by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Reminds me of "climategate" where the pundits gleefully reported that researchers admitted to using a "trick" to "hide" something. Of course, if you read more than those two words, you realized it wasn't anything shady. Nonetheless, the fossil fuel PR team had great fun with it and some idiots out there took it as reason to ignore climate change for longer.

    9. Re:Why bother with the panic? by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

      I think many people use the Troll option when they see "Clearly false". I'm familiar enough with Climategate to know that many on the right believes this nonsense, but nonsense it is.

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    10. Re:Why bother with the panic? by StikyPad · · Score: 2

      Indeed. In French, for example, the word for "do" and "make" are the same.

      http://translate.google.com/#en/fr/What%20are%20you%20doing%3F%20What%20are%20you%20making%3F

    11. Re:Why bother with the panic? by Bongo · · Score: 2

      It was an environmentalist who told me frankly that it did not matter if CO2 didn't turn out ot be a big problem, because by forcing a cut in CO2 you force a cut in production and consumption. She said, "it is about reducing GREED".

      If people would just stop and listen to what environmentalists actually want, we could all discuss it on its own merits. Instead the PR is often about which message will advance this or that cause. Facts be damned.

  2. Disprove = free paper by trdtaylor · · Score: 2

    Analyze that elemental analysis, if it's obviously fabricated publish short refuting paper in a better journal

    Or offer ACS to print it if ACS is the best in the industry, boom name recognition and easy paper.

  3. Science - It Works by Bob9113 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    some commenters have noted that "just make up" could be an awkward choice of words by a non-native speaker of English who intended to instruct his student to make up a sample and then conduct the elemental analysis. Other commenters aren't buying it.

    You know what the great thing about science is? We don't have to focus on emotion and rhetoric. We can do the experiment, and see if it would have supported the conclusion. If it would, our societal view of justice compels us to assume they were asking for the valid test results to be included. If it would not have supported the conclusion, then we can call for the author to be sanctioned.

    1. Re:Science - It Works by mbkennel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Climatology is as scientific as geophysics and astrophysics.  It is plenty hard.

      "And you can't repeat the experiment to see if it would have supported the conclusion, you just have to trust the original researcher's models." as in astrophysics, and yet it is highly predictive since it is based on physics.

      The 'emotion and rhetoric' comes when some people don't like the consequences of the answers.

    2. Re:Science - It Works by NeverWorker1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      There needs to be a "typewriter font -1." Not arguing with what you're saying, but it's an annoying font.

    3. Re:Science - It Works by SemperUbi · · Score: 2

      We're talking impartial SCIENCE, man. I say we need "typewriter font -1" and "typewriter font +1." Let the battle begin!

      No matter who wins, we'll shake hands, raise toasts to each other in the mead hall, then go slaughter the Comic Sans crowd.

    4. Re:Science - It Works by OneAhead · · Score: 2

      That's true for hard sciences, but not for the US political debate on climate science. Emotion and rhetoric play a huge part in that.

      FTFY.

      BTW, nice attempt at flamebaiting the discussion off-topic.

    5. Re:Science - It Works by OneAhead · · Score: 2

      Climatology gives us no more answers about future weather than molecular dynamics does about any cellular system.

      Well duh, climate science is about climate, not weather. Weather models are to climate science as molecular dynamics is to biochemical network simulations. Or to correct your statement: "Weather models give us no more answers about future climate than molecular dynamics does about any cellular system".

    6. Re:Science - It Works by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's not Courier unless you have your browser set up to display Courier. It is a <tt> tag, which has a css style of "font-family:monospace;". Courier is monospaced, but so are typewriters. He is at least as correct as you are.

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  4. Shouldn't peer review catch this? by gman003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would have thought that standard peer review would have caught this - someone reading this, specifically with an eye towards accuracy, should have noticed it well before it made it to print. Whether that would result in just removing the offending text (which, while not completely guilty, definitely sounds bad) or result in actual correction of the experiment, I can't say.

  5. IF you RTFA by avandesande · · Score: 4, Informative

    None of the data talked about in the note was used in the final journal submission and the compound the author was referring to was what he claimed was a theoretical intermediate. I am leaning toward a misunderstanding in a hastily written note.

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  6. "supporting information" by martas · · Score: 2

    It's not that rare for reviewers to skim the appendix of a paper, and it doesn't necessarily go against their instructions. Appendices tend to be more useful to people who need detailed information about how the results presented in a paper were obtained (typically these are researchers in the same subfield), rather than reviewers or researchers whose work is only moderately related to the paper.

    1. Re:"supporting information" by gman003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ah, true. Can't blame peer review for only skimming the appendices.

      Now, the journal editors, them I think we can blame.

  7. Reminds me of the day... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

    when I was tricked into drinking Hydrogen Hydroxide when I distinctly requested a beaker full of Dihydrogen Monoxide. The cover-up, the pointing of fingers, the falling out of the scientific community. HOYVIN GLAVIN!

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  8. Re:Very well could be by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Many languages use only one verb for several uses of "make" and "do". English has some odd cases where "make" is used but, from a logical point of view, it would seem that "do" would be more appropriate, making translations more difficult. Thus, instead of "make up an analysis", one could easily imagine someone with a less than perfect grasp of english meaning "do an analysis"

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  9. Re:Very well could be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That looks like German wording of "make up" = "do", nothing nefarious about it, slow news day?

  10. Re:Very well could be by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or has that already happened?

    On numerous occasions politicians have released MS-Word docs, and the full edit history could be retrieved, with occasionally embarrassing results.

  11. Conspiracy to falsify results? by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm not disturbed by the note, and yes it's likely a poor choice of words from a non-English speaker.

    Are we now condemning conspiracy to submit fraudulent information? I thought fraud was the bad act.

    I've worked with non-English speaking students, and there are a surprising number of awkward constructions that you wouldn't notice as a native speaker.

    For example, one multiple-choice optics test question had this answer: "The image is half as large".

    The phrase "half as large" translates simultaneously into "big" and "small" at the same time... it was pointed out that many students didn't know what this meant. The first rewrite came out as "half the size", but since many cultures implicitly measure size in terms of area instead of height, lots of people misinterpreted this as well (half the height = 1/4 the area). Having an answer "none of the above" further confused the issue. The test should have been specific in saying "half the height".

    I've proofread/edited more than 10 papers written by foreign types, and "twisted meanings" are quite common - phrases that seem syntactically reasonable but which have a different meaning to a native speaker. (I grew up in Amish territory - statements like "Sarah is wonderful sick today" and "throw papa down the stairs his hat" were commonplace.)

    I wouldn't think twice about the note in the paper. Unless the researcher actually makes up the analysis out of whole cloth it's not a problem.

    Science is about evidence, not hearsay.

  12. Re:Science - It Works, but only for the big stuff by Chemisor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, we can do the experiment, but most of the time we don't. Nobody gets grant money for replicating stuff other people have already done. There's no glory in it; the citations, the namings, the prestige will all go to the original experimenter, and grants are very much about glory (to the host institution, of course, not so much for the researcher herself). Yes, the big, important stuff gets replicated, but a dreadfully mundane study of some palladium catalysed reaction is not in that category, and so is unlikely to be replicated. The allegation of "made up" data in this particular paper may prompt somebody to try it in this case, but there will be many more that will slip through.

  13. The obvious answer is... by meglon · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...they went to publish it, realized they didn't have a supporting NMR, so he told his assistant to make one up.

    Here's the rub... what that means to the assistant is, run an NMR; what it means to all the people who don't have a the education to understand what it means, or even what an NMR is, is that they can try to paint science as bad. You cant "make up" an NMR in that way, although you could substitute some other chemical and run the analysis... but why bother? Any lab with an NMR could check your work simply by running the correct NMR; and, running the correct chemical will take exactly as long, and exactly the same amount of effort.

    This is basically people who don't have enough education somehow seeing a conspiracy in nothing. I swear, the human race is fucking pathetic sometimes.

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    1. Re:The obvious answer is... by pz · · Score: 5, Informative

      I run a scientific research lab in a Big University You Have Heard Of. I had a conversation with an intern and a post-doc earlier this week where we talked about figures that could be added to a review paper the intern is working on. I swear I used the words, "I'll make up a figure ..." to describe the actions of collecting the necessary supporting data to create a figure for the paper that my post-doc suggested would be instructional. "Make up" in this case meant, "construct," and wholly lacked nefarious, subversive, or deceptive connotations.

      And I speak English as my mother tongue.

      The so-called conspiracy to commit fraud here is a bunch of hooey. The only thing the authors are guilty of is not submitting a fully completed manuscript.

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    2. Re:The obvious answer is... by meglon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. It's someone telling their assistant to get a NMR done.

      It's become a sad day here in the US where there's a faction of people so against science, that they try to manufacture issues like this. I don't care that some people want to remain stupid... it's there choice, but they should at least have enough brain cells left to understand if they want to stay stupid, their opinion doesn't mean shit because it's based on stupidity.

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    3. Re:The obvious answer is... by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, this whole thing is absolutely stupid. I don't even buy that it was a non-native English speaker; "go make up a..." is just another way of telling someone to go produce something.

  14. Oblig. by munch117 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Probably non-native speakers are a bit more prone to this kind of mistake though. From an old Usenet quotes file:

    I had a manual that described doing a track alignment on a floppy drive. Basically loosen the lock screw, adjust, tighten the screw. But...the author's english was from another continent...

    "...when adjustment is complete, screw it up."

  15. Probably meant fabriate by MassiveForces · · Score: 2

    The semi-important data would be in the NMR, the elemental analysis would be more of a formality to show they are working with what they said they were working with. I think that is reason to believe they would have worded it in such a way suggesting they needed a real NMR result but some pain in the but boring work they have an expected answer for is to be just made up. Obviously bad practice, probably doesn't have much bearing on the paper itself though, assuming their materials suppliers are trustworthy.

  16. It took by justthinkit · · Score: 2

    It took balls to say that.

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