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Obama's Privacy Reform Panel Will Report To ... the NSA

FuzzNugget writes "No, you didn't just stumble upon The Onion by mistake. Ars Technica reports that Obama's 'reform' panel will report directly to James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence who arguably lied to Congress about whether the NSA conducted dragnet surveillance of Americans' communications. But is anyone really surprised?"

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  1. Arguably lied? by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 5, Informative

    Either he did or he didn't, there's no in-between. In actuality he lied, and did it intentionally.

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    1. Re:Arguably lied? by OffTheLip · · Score: 4, Informative

      Considering a career in politics? Language parsing and nuance abound reaching stellar heights with politicians led by super stars like Bill Clinton with his explanation of the meaning of "is" wrt to his intern. Clapper did not misspeak, he lied.

    2. Re:Arguably lied? by Phreakiture · · Score: 4, Informative

      IMHO, he gave us the truth, but not the whole truth.

      No.

      He was asked if they collected the data on Americans. He said no. That was a lie. It was in no part true. Anyone who knew about Bill Binney or the Quantico Circuit knew it was a lie even before the echo of his words died down in the room.

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  2. American version of Hanlon's Razor by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Informative

    You explain everything with malice in the government, and idiocy in the voters

  3. Panel Will Also Operate in Secret by EmagGeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    The article doesn't state it, but I heard on CBS News Radio this morning that the panel will also operate in secret, and all records will be classified.

    Nothing to see here, move along, citizen. Thank you for your cooperation.

  4. Re:Happy President by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 4, Informative

    Things will get so bad that 1984 will look like utopia, not distopia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia_(book)

    Utopia isn't really what people think it is. Of course, the irony is that in modern usage, it does mean "perfect society" despite the satirical bent of More's original work.

    And I believe 1984 was actually intended to look like Utopia in the first place, IIRC.

  5. Re:Happy President by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just to be accurate Lincoln conducted the first practice of this back in 1862.

  6. Re:Happy President by Skweetis · · Score: 3, Informative

    Until there is a Libertarian candidate, who is remotely viable, picking Republicans is what Libertarians ought to be doing. Because Republicans are far less wrong on economy. And economic freedom is required for prosperity...

    The opposite is literally true. I don't personally vote economic issues (there's nothing wrong with doing so), but if I were to, voting Republican would not be an optimal choice.

    On contrast, if an ultra-Conservative "RethugliKKKan" wins elections and, horrors, manages to outlaw abortions... Guess what? I'll still be able to afford my daughter's trip to Canada, should she ever want the procedure.

    You seem to primarily vote your wallet, and you also have a liberal position on at least one social issue, or, at least, you're not crazy about the Republican platform position on that issue (please correct me if I read you wrong). Again, nothing wrong with that, but holding a Republican preference with what you've shared of your political views seems... decidedly strange. I'd honestly be interested in how you arrived at the preference you have.

    ...the deterioration of our economy...

    What deterioration? Now, I'll be the first to admit that we're not exactly seeing Clinton-era growth, but we are seeing steady, albeit slow, improvement. Again, literally the opposite of deterioration.

  7. WTF? Clapper is NOT the NSA by Typical+Slashdotter · · Score: 4, Informative

    Say whatever you want about how much they may be in the same camp or agree philosophically, but Clapper is the Director of National Intelligence. The NSA is led by General Keith Alexander, the Director of the NSA, who reports to the Director of National Intelligence. If you're going to complain about who reports to who, at least know who reports to who...

  8. Re:Happy President by operagost · · Score: 1, Informative

    His monsterdom was apparent to anyone who looked at the organizations he was associated with, the company he kept, and the speeches he made.

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  9. Re:Happy President by BigDukeSix · · Score: 1, Informative

    posting to undo errant mod