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Soda Makes Five-Year-Olds Break Your Stuff, Science Finds

Daniel_Stuckey writes "Shakira F. Suglia and co-authors surveyed 2,929 mothers of five-year-olds (PDF) and found that 43 percent of the kids consumed at least one serving of soft drinks per day. About four percent of those children (or 110 of them), drank more than four soft drinks per day, and became 'more than twice as likely to destroy things belonging to others, get into fights, and physically attack people.' In the past, soda and its various strains have been related to depression, irritability, aggression, suicidal thoughts, and delusions of sweepstake-winning grandeur. Of course, this study didn't find out what types of soda the children had consumed."

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  1. Scientists finally discover... by sinij · · Score: 5, Funny

    Scientists finally discover sugar high, new at 11!

    1. Re:Scientists finally discover... by wiredlogic · · Score: 3, Informative

      The notion of a "sugar high" was a propaganda technique used to manipulate the masses into reducing their sugar consumption during WW2. It doesn't exist. Kids that get hyperactive after consuming sugar do so because they have been trained by an adult into thinking they can act up with impunity because the "sugar" makes them do it.

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    2. Re:Scientists finally discover... by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, I don't know that. There was at least one study a few years ago that studied just that. It discovered that there was no difference in children's behavior after consuming a large dose of sugar. The researchers postulated that the myth about sugar resulting in kid's "bouncing off the walls", resulted from the fact that kids tend to consume large amounts of sugar in settings which cause them to be more active.

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    3. Re:Scientists finally discover... by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      As a treat I'll get the kids a cinnamon role

      And how do they act?

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    4. Re:Scientists finally discover... by Nutria · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8747098

      However, anecdotal observations of this kind need to be tested scientifically before conclusions can be drawn, and criteria for interpreting diet behavior studies must be rigorous. ... Although sugar is widely believed by the public to cause hyperactive behavior, this has not been scientifically substantiated. Twelve double-blind, placebo-controlled studies of sugar challenges failed to provide any evidence that sugar ingestion leads to untoward behavior in children with Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder or in normal children.

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    5. Re: Scientists finally discover... by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The experiment has been done:

      A) They took some kids to a party, let the parents see tables full of cake but secretly fed the kids raw tofu beans (or something like that). After dinner they made made the kids jump around to loud music for half an hour. On the way home all the parents swore the kids were hyperactive and it was all down to the sugar.

      B) The took some 'problem' kids to a party and showed the parents tables full of raw tofu beans. When the parents left they fed the kids to bursting with chocolate cake, soda, anything with lots of sugar. After that they sat the kids down quietly and read them a bedtime story. The kids were falling asleep in their parent's cars on the way home. The parents put it all down to the tofu and swore to never feed their kids on sugar ever again.

      Conclusion: The "sugar" thing is 100% confirmation bias by the parents.

      There's a TV program on it somewhere - it's called "The Truth About Food" or something like that (it was one of a series made by the BBC).

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    6. Re:Scientists finally discover... by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have done that. When I consume large quantities of sugar, I become sleepy, NOT hyperactive. So, both my personal experience AND a study I have seen supports the conclusion that sugar does not make children hyperactive.

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  2. Correlation does not imply causation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It could be that bad parenting causes both the soda and the bad behavior.

    1. Re:Correlation does not imply causation by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bad parenting causes soda? There must be some seriously bad parenting going on in soda factories; I've seen truckloads of that stuff being hauled out of there.

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    2. Re:Correlation does not imply causation by killkillkill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Chuckle at the bad joke and move on. Don't let spite grow out of a lighthearted criticism. Also, if you only manage to hit one idiot with a rock here, you're doing it wrong.

    3. Re:Correlation does not imply causation by AchilleTalon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree with you. This study doesn't prove anything and is complete failure. It doesn't deserve to make its way on /. unless it is to discuss how bad studies can lead media to make false conclusions from thin data and no clue.

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  3. Great by Longjmp · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course, this study didn't find out what types of soda the children had consumed.

    Another study finds that living children are 100% more likely to "destroy things belonging to others, get into fights, and physically attack people" than dead children.

    cheez.

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  4. For clarification - soda versus soft drink by Twinbee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    drank more than four soft drinks per day

    Confusingly, in the title and elsewhere, the word 'soda' is used. A soft drink isn't necessarily a soda/carbonated/fizzy drink. In other words, a soft drink may be non-fizzy. That makes the summary at least somewhat ambiguous.

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  5. It isn't the soda. It's the survey. by Smokeybehr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The problem with the survey can be found in the results section of the Abstract. They oversampled males by +4, and 51% of the families were Black. This isn't a soda/soft drink issue; it's a parenting/cultural issue, which is mentioned, but essentially glossed over when you start delving into the "study". The families were already "in the system", as they were part of an ongoing study, which tells me that there were already parenting and cultural issues that go deeper than the family's diet.

  6. Sugar High? No such thing. by internic · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually the existance of the sugar high has been hotly debated, and as far as I'm aware most of the scientific literature suggests that it doesn't exist.

    Of course I think those observations are mostly about double blind, randomized, placebo-controlled trails where neither the child nor the observer knows the child has gotten sugar. I don't know if the results of this survey-based cohort study are due to the placebo effect, spurious correlations, or actual new effect.

    (Caveat: I don't know that much about biology/medicine, so take all that with a grain of salt.)

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  7. As a dentist, my experience with 5 YO patients by mark_reh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    who drink soda 4 times or more per day is that they are able to do so because of a lack of parental supervision (plus a few because of extreme dental ignorance on the part of the parents). I think that that same lack of supervision leads to bad behavior in little kids. I don't think I'd blame the soda for bad behavior, though caffeine may be contributing to the problem.

  8. Re:Correlation != Causality by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A bigger problem with the study is that it is based on a survey of mothers. The study could have instead found: (1) mothers who give their kids soda are for some reason more sensitive to bad behavior, (2) mothers "know" that soda causes bad behavior and so they expect it and report their bias, (3) some third factor affects both soda drinking as well as actual or perceived behavior, (4) almost an infinite number of other things.

    I'm glad that someone is examining this, but a study like this can only be used to point science in a direction - it by no means implicates soda as a behavior modifier all by itself, all it found was a correlation in a self-reported survey.

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  9. Re: Correlation != Causality by nbauman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One option would be that mothers who allow their kids the have so much sugar in their diet is failing in probably more ways than one. So not only is the child getting improper nutrition but also not being taught how to act & respect people or things

    The authors agree with you:

    Many factors may affect both soda consumption and problem behaviors of children. Poor dietary behaviors, such as high soda consumption among young children, may be associated with other parenting practices, such as excessive TV viewing or high consumption of sweets in the child’s diet. Furthermore, parenting practices may be associated with social factors known to be associated with child behavior. In stressful home environments, for example, a child’s needs are likely to be unmet and unhealthy behavioral practices may be more prevalent. An extensive literature has documented a relationship between stressful home environments and child behavior. For example, children who are victims of violent acts or who witness violence have been found to have more externalizing and internalizing behavior problems, more aggression problems and to show signs of posttraumatic stress disorder [9-11]. Furthermore, caretaker mental health can be a strong contributor to both behavioral and developmental problems in children through its effects, in part, on parenting quality and overall home environment [12]. Children of depressed mothers have been shown to develop more social and emotional problems during childhood, including higher internalizing and externalizing problems [13]. Thus, it is possible that observed associations between behavior and soda consumption among adolescents can be attributed to unadjusted social risk factors.

  10. Re:Correlation != Causality by sir-gold · · Score: 4, Insightful

    New study shows that parents who lack parenting skills (and can't control their kids) admit to giving their kids more soda than parents who know better