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Former Lockheed Skunkworks Engineer Auctioning a Prototype "Spy Rock"

ilikenwf writes "For a cool $10,000,000.00, the prototype of a surveillance rock full of spy gadgets could be yours! More importantly, server backups from the gentleman's time at Lockheed are included, being the real valuable in this auction, as it contains schematics and such. The seller seems to think that the current xBee radio products are actually based on his work with Lockheed. The proceeds will go towards legal action the seller is apparently taking against his former employer." This may be the most unusual eBay product description I've ever encountered, and one of the most interesting, too.

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  1. IP Rights by muphin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    even though this guy designed the hardware, wouldn't the documents and hardware be considered Intellectual Property of Lockheed?

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    1. Re:IP Rights by Sun · · Score: 2

      Read the description. He wasn't a Lockhead emplyee. He held 10% shares of the contractor company that designed the product.

      Shachar

    2. Re:IP Rights by Darinbob · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Sounds like he was fired from the contract company that he was 10% owner of, and told that Lockheed did not buy the product (and thus no delivery of the final product). And now it appear that either Lockheed did buy the product after all or else it was sold at a later date to a third party (somehow xBee eventually got it). So he wants his 10%. The suit is against this contractor company.

    3. Re:IP Rights by Duncan+J+Murray · · Score: 4, Informative

      "In 2002-2003, I was the Chief Technology Officer for a Boston-based hardware research and development firm, Advanced Wireless Automation (AWA)."

      "Based upon my equity ownership in the company and the fact that all AWA computing resources were conducted on my own personal equipment using my own datacenter and my Internet connection, it is well within my right to auction off the backups related to the now-defunct AWA."

    4. Re:IP Rights by DragonTHC · · Score: 1

      The project wasn't picked up by Lockheed. So no.

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    5. Re:IP Rights by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      None of which means it wasn't the intellectual property of Lockheed. That depends on the terms of the contract AWA had with Lockheed, not on who owned the company or who hosted the computing resources. (And, FWIW, the same goes for the 'right' to auction off said intellectual property.)

    6. Re:IP Rights by jythie · · Score: 4, Interesting

      One of the risks of working on DoD projects is they have a nice little loophole in patent law that allows them to take IP from one company and give it to another without risking legal consequences. There have been quite a few documented cases over the years of well connected 'buddy' contractors essentially going to the DoD and saying 'company X has cool stuff, but we do not want to pay for it, so how about we build it for you instead?' and getting the stolen IP. Since it is connected to 'national security' the normal laws are suspended.

    7. Re:IP Rights by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      One of the risks of working on DoD projects is they have a nice little loophole in patent law that allows them to take IP from one company and give it to another

      Yet a Google search brings up nothing. Do you have a citation?

      There have been quite a few documented cases over the years ...

      Pet peeve: People that claim there are "quite a few" documents, but fail link to even one.

    8. Re:IP Rights by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, well, l guess l should recognize it. lt's my design.

      What'd you do? Steal a key to the patent office?

      Yeah, basically.

      - Let me get this straight. l got pulled off an oil rig, flown halfway around the world because you stole my drill design...

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    9. Re:IP Rights by tibman · · Score: 1

      It's not intellectual property. He's auctioning actual source code and gerber files.

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    10. Re:IP Rights by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      And the legal term for that kind of thing is.... (drum roll)... intellectual property.

    11. Re:IP Rights by Zenin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      All of which makes the eBay auction an absolutely brilliant legal maneuver:

      To shut down the eBay auction Lockheed would have to claim ownership of the IP...which would mean admitting to fraud and making it legally liable to a hell of a lot more then just his 10% share (especially given the claims of continued use of his IP in other projects), likely including serious criminal charges.

      If they don't take the bait...he's potentially $10M richer and still retains IP rights and can still use that to pursue the use of his tech in other projects (drones, etc).

      It's by far better legal leverage than he'd ever see in a court room.

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    12. Re:IP Rights by Vesvvi · · Score: 2

      I read an extensive article about an ocean-floor submarine cable connector design which was effectively stolen by the government. A quick google search didn't turn it up, but maybe you will have better luck.

    13. Re:IP Rights by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      It would have been IP of Lockheed had Lockheed bought that product. Since Lockheed just took the files and proceeded to using them while stating they are no longer interested in the product they never obtained the IP.

      If I'm contracted to write a program and the person who contracted me decides to unilaterally dissolve the contract - stating they are no longer interested in whatever they contracted me for (and won't pay me for any work completed so far) - they definitely do not obtain IP to work completed so far.

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    14. Re:IP Rights by tragedy · · Score: 1

      Despite somehow managing to be a decent movie to watch, Armageddon really is a very stupid movie in a lot of ways. This one, for example. Why would they need to "steal a key to the patent office". If it's patented, or patent pending, it's a public record. Anyone can build one. They can also quite legally build one for research and experimentation purposes, and train their astronauts with it without owing anyone license fees. That's even if they're a private entity and not a government agency. If they were a private entity and they actually used it commercially, then they would have to have licensed the technology, but It's been firmly established forever that government agencies can simply ignore patents and use whatever technology. Also, there's a pretty strong argument that using it for the public good would be a protected activity even for a private entity.

    15. Re:IP Rights by tibman · · Score: 2

      Intellectual Property is something that doesn't actually exist. The copyright to the source code can be considered IP but the source code is not. You can read up on it here: http://www.wipo.int/about-ip/en/index.html and here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property

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    16. Re:IP Rights by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      The vast majority of people who watched Armageddon took what he said at face value. Lay people have funny ideas about patents, i know i did before i came to Slashdot.

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    17. Re:IP Rights by tragedy · · Score: 1

      The vast majority of people who watched Armageddon took what he said at face value.

      Naturally. Just like the asteroid being "the size of Texas" yet still vulnerable to a nuke, or the entire premise of drilling into it to plant a nuke that would blow it apart along a fault line. There's a lot of really cringe-worthy movie science in that movie. Really, really a lot. Somehow it manages to be watch-able anyway. It certainly had a lot more replay value than _Deep Impact_.

    18. Re:IP Rights by Zenin · · Score: 1

      Anyone who wants to keep the information out of the public (and away from competitors) without legally acknowledging wrong doing. ie, a shell corporation for the companies he claims stole his IP.

      Anyone who wants to keep what are very likely current survalance protocols hidden, "2 decades old tech" or not. ie, the US government.

      Anyone who wants to subvert that technology. ie any non-US government as well as plenty of multinational corporations who routinely engage in corporate spying on each other and governments.

      Any inquisitive tech multimillionaire/billionaire. ie, Zuckerberg, any of the Google folks, etc.

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  2. Tigers? by mmontour · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does the rock also keep tigers away? Because if so, SOLD!

    1. Re:Tigers? by bkmoore · · Score: 2

      The real question is, does it keep a man in a tiger suit away?

  3. What? by dyingtolive · · Score: 1

    I.. what? What, is Slashdot the new weekly world news?

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    1. Re:What? by dyingtolive · · Score: 1

      Also, offer made for 10.00 USD.

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    2. Re:What? by lxs · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sounds about right for a second hand webcam in a Styrofoam rock.

    3. Re:What? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      From the auction:

      The pictures depicted from this auction show some of the early prototypes from the project; however, it should be noted that none of that hardware will be included in this auction as I had a non-intentionally set fire :) that transpired at my house in the storage area where my prototypes were, that destroyed most if not all of the prototype hardware from the initial project development with Lockheed. Those pictures were taken during the development process at one of Lockheed's SCIFs located in Northern Virgina, as is evidenced by the yellow caution tape you see on the floor there in the first few pictures. The last picture was one of the sample images generated from a RockCam installed across the street from one of the engineer's house.

      What this auctions contains is this:

      The remaining prototype hardware that I have in my possession, including:

      1) Microhard Spectra 910 900MHz serial line radio with power supply (this was a prototype 900MHz radio that I believe went on to become the current generation of ZigBee-based XBee radios;
      2) A collection of PC104-based enclosures and motherboards, with various interfacing such as serial ports, USB ports, etc;
      3) A Mobile Wireless Technologies RM1000g AVS vehicle transponder with WWAN and GPS tracking support;
      4) Novate wireless prototyping board;
      5) GNU X-Tools cross compilation software;

      and

      6) A CD filled with backup materials during several years of the company (the most valuable part of this auction obviously).

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  4. Version 2.0 by scsirob · · Score: 4, Funny

    Something tells me that version 2.0 of these skunk-work projects will show up at your doorstep if you show serious interest in this offer.

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    1. Re:Version 2.0 by mpe · · Score: 1

      Something tells me that version 2.0 of these skunk-work projects will show up at your doorstep if you show serious interest in this offer.

      Or more likely v3 which invisibly replaces your doorstep.

    2. Re:Version 2.0 by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/hackers-tiny-50-spy-computer-hides-offices-drops-drones-158197
      Depends they might go for a home smoke/carbon monoxide detector with power for a long time :)

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  5. Or save $9,999,000.00 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because a Rasberry Pi, slightly outdated cellphone, wireless router, digital TV tuner card or USB device, flash memory, styrofoam, and spraypaint aren't exactly that expensive as OTS component resources in regards to being able to roll your own. Outside of custom software and knowing how to put the hardware together, it should be possible for under $1000 easy.

    1. Re:Or save $9,999,000.00 by Demonantis · · Score: 2

      Yes but will it be almost undetectedable by normal spectrum analysis? There was some serious radio technology in there. RTFA its worth it. This was a serious piece of equipment before the fire.

    2. Re:Or save $9,999,000.00 by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      The guy described this working on spread spectrum below noise level. Not exactly wireless router or outdated phone type radio communication.
      The camera and rock part is the easy part of the project. Making the rock broadcast the images in a way undetectable to standard radio equipment is the hard part; it's not just you won't decode the transmission, the very presence of the RF transmission is about impossible to detect unless you know what to look for (precise algorithm of extracting the data which is well hidden in the background noise) - and the guy exactly sells documents that tell what to look for!

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    3. Re:Or save $9,999,000.00 by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the wavelet encryption modified to run off an ASIC in what sounds like near real-time.

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    4. Re:Or save $9,999,000.00 by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      compression not encryption. Sigh @ not previewing.

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  6. Free shipping eh? by bytesex · · Score: 1

    I wonder if 'free shipping' also includes trans-Atlantic shipping? To eh.. say Russia, for example?

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    1. Re:Free shipping eh? by bobthesungeek76036 · · Score: 1

      $10M for a Styrofoam rock with some electronics inside? I would hope there would be enough cushion for worldwide shipping... ;)

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    2. Re:Free shipping eh? by 21mhz · · Score: 3, Informative

      They apparently delivered at least one of them to Russia free of charge already. Some years ago, there was a purportedly documental story on Russian TV where an employee of the British embassy was shown using a "spy rock" clandestinely in Moscow. The veracity of that was widely dismissed because of the ridiculousness of the idea. Some of these spy operations sound like gratuitous toying with cloak-and-dagger stuff.

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    3. Re:Free shipping eh? by AHuxley · · Score: 2

      Was RT story mentioned further down on http://cryptome.org/2013/07/rockcam-spy.htm ?
      Interesting notes about 'imagery data being relayed between the rocks, so that conventional signals intelligence methods would be unable to view the encrypted image/video streams." before the UK story.

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  7. He isn't selling the rock :( by janoc · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is a pity that the poster has never actually read the description of the auction, otherwise they would have found that:

    "The pictures depicted from this auction show some of the early prototypes from the project; however, it should be noted that none of that hardware will be included in this auction as I had a non-intentionally set fire :) that transpired at my house in the storage area where my prototypes were, that destroyed most if not all of the prototype hardware from the initial project development with Lockheed. Those pictures were taken during the development process at one of Lockheed's SCIFs located in Northern Virgina, as is evidenced by the yellow caution tape you see on the floor there in the first few pictures. The last picture was one of the sample images generated from a RockCam installed across the street from one of the engineer's house."

    and

    " 1) Microhard Spectra 910 900MHz serial line radio with power supply (this was a prototype 900MHz radio that I believe went on to become the current generation of ZigBee-based XBee radios; 2) A collection of PC104-based enclosures and motherboards, with various interfacing such as serial ports, USB ports, etc; 3) A Mobile Wireless Technologies RM1000g AVS vehicle transponder with WWAN and GPS tracking support; 4) Novate wireless prototyping board; 5) GNU X-Tools cross compilation software; and 6) A CD filled with backup materials during several years of the company (the most valuable part of this auction obviously)"

    So still some nice hw and docs, but certainly no "spy rocks" included. RTFA, guys!

    1. Re:He isn't selling the rock :( by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2

      Taking pictures in a SCIF?

      Ruh-Roh.

    2. Re:He isn't selling the rock :( by gravis777 · · Score: 1

      So... In the process of trying to raise money for legal fees against his former employer, he releases pictures taken on Lockheed property of Lockheed IP stuff, and some documents most likely protected via Lockheed IP and national security laws? So, he invites yet another lawsuit, breaks ebay Terms and Conditions, breaks national laws, and tries to become another Snowden.

      So either this is a huge hoax, or this guy is an idiot. At least try to flee the country first next time! Russia might give you temporary assylum!

    3. Re:He isn't selling the rock :( by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      Yes did he not understand when he signed the Official secrets act (the equivalent in the USA) what he was doing?

    4. Re:He isn't selling the rock :( by Beezlebub33 · · Score: 1

      Well....if it is Lockheed IP / property, then it means that Lockheed bought it, in which case he's entitled to his 10%. If it's not Lockheed's property / IP, then he's ok. Which one is it?

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  8. Totally bogus by bobthesungeek76036 · · Score: 1

    SkunkWorks? Don't they design aircraft? What in the world would an advanced airframe design company want with a rock with a camera in it? And for sure they wouldn't have to hire a sub to design it if they did...

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    1. Re:Totally bogus by undeadbill · · Score: 2

      Lockheed does a lot more than just aviation design, and it is also fairly typical for government contractors to sub out work to outside companies, especially if the top tier contractor doesn't have the internal expertise or can't pay the expertise enough to join Lockheed.

    2. Re:Totally bogus by bobthesungeek76036 · · Score: 1

      I agree. Lockheed Martin does a lot more than just aviation. But Lockheed Martin Aeronautics - SkunkWorks mission is advanced airframe design.

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    3. Re:Totally bogus by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Lockheed had lots of fun with dish antennae projects in Sunnyvale, CA.... they are way into the aerospace industry, antenna work (huge for UK or smaller projects).

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    4. Re:Totally bogus by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      Have you even been on Lockheed's website? Yes, they have pictures -- no reading necessary.

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  9. Anything Else for Sale ? by nukenerd · · Score: 2

    A bridge perhaps?

  10. Actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's spelled Lockheed

  11. Historical by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    This started the war in iRock

  12. Pet Rock by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    This may trigger a fad called something like "pet rocks".

    1. Re:Pet Rock by minstrelmike · · Score: 1

      At ten million a pop, it'd be luxury pet rocks. Stuff for people like Oprah. It would even fit in a $38,000 purse.

  13. Doggone it! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Did he already sell the Dogpoop Cam? I hear it was cancelled because they got tired of wiping prototypes off their shoes.

  14. Bottom line... by bobthesungeek76036 · · Score: 1
    http://www.salespider.com/b-293488926/advanced-wireless-automation

    See "Estimated annual revenue" -- $20K

    I guess $10M for this shiny rock would bolster the annual revenue a tad...

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  15. It's a rock by mtpaley · · Score: 1

    I suspect this is the starting material for a rock cam, I.E. a rock. Good luck with selling that.

  16. X marks the pots! by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

    For a cool $10,000,000.00, the prototype surveillance rock full of spy gadgets box could be yours! More importantly, home server backups from the gentleman's time at Lockheed are included, which was real valuable to this auction as that's where schematics and such are. The seller seemed to think that the current xBee radio box is actually based on his square design done at Lockeed. Proceeds go towards legal action; The seller is allegedly taking against his former employer's wishes....

    And you can keep your weed in there, man!

    1. Re:X marks the pots! by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      Weed?

      I don't think that's what this guy is taking.

  17. and old android will do it all by cheekyboy · · Score: 2

    an old 3g phone with android and no apps, but one app for spying is enough.

    There, $50 of hardware needed, nothing else.

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  18. That sale isn't targeted at you and me by Aviation+Pete · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I guess he wants the people who screwed him to buy in order to keep the contents of the CD secret. Then he probably wants to settle out of court.

    Will be interesting to see if there is really someone who buys before the auction ends. In effect, he/she will fund the legal campaign of his/her opponent ...

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  19. The point is to be sued by nmoore · · Score: 2
    Perry says:

    I am auctioning this off for the stated price to fund a legal team in DC dig into my dismissal from the company and to determine where the AWA intellectual property went after the demise of AWA.

    And what is the interesting part of the auction? A backup CD full of AWA intellectual property. If someone sues him over selling that CD and infringing upon their IP, then he knows who currently owns the IP, and he can in discovery find out how they obtained it—providing the evidence needed to file his own lawsuit.

    It sounds like a bit of a gamble, though: What if, say, the customer lists and the patents went to different places? Then the owners of the former could sue him, but he would not get the information he's looking for.

  20. Delusion... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

    Sounds like it's higher than the value of the goods to me... if he wants outsiders to fund his legal action, he needs to offer a share of the spoils...

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  21. Re:No NSA jokes? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    NSA sucks up any nations data. This is more a ~CIA, MI6 surveillance product.
    Add in the radiation details, 3 years of operation: thinking Iran, North Korea?

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  22. Re:"A list of all nuclear power plants..." by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    The US would like to drop/park a rock in some country with active nuclear testing or expected nuclear leak issues.
    So that science data would be collected and compressed back to a US site without Soviet/Russian/China/French?/German? local 'spy radio' detection systems been made aware?

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  23. Re:Normal delusions of grandeur by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Sniffing/monitoring WLAN would be traceable maybe even expected where used?
    This notes years hidden with options to conserve energy, get more useful life from the sun and radiation detectors with local weather details. Images over low-capacity mesh radio is just fine if its one 'site' and under years of expansion.
    Different mission to devices like http://rt.com/news/spy-rock-britain-admit-147/ (2006)
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/9022827/Russian-spy-rock-was-genuine-former-chief-of-staff-admits.html

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  24. Re:"A list of all nuclear power plants..." by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

    The point is to make Lockheed or whoever else pay him his 10%.

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  25. Disappeared by Reliable+Windmill · · Score: 1

    I'm thinking this guy is setting himself up for 50 years behind bars, or getting "disappeared", for pursuing this.

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  26. Rare Slashdotting Measurement!!!! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    10 minutes ago, a hover-over of the main picture yielded "583 people are viewing this per hour". 10 minutes later just now, it's up to 592.

    As more people wake up this number should go up.

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  27. Re:Boom? by NicBenjamin · · Score: 2

    Then make some explosive shells, and sit them out in the wilderness for 60 years. Weathering will make some of them look like rocks. You really shouldn't pick them up, or even touch them, due to 60 years of erosion screwing with the triggering mechanism; so you won't actually be able to use them for anything.

    But you'll have exploding rocks.

  28. A bigger version of the Dog Turd sensor by Gim+Tom · · Score: 1

    This just seems to be a bigger and fancier version of the seismic sensors that looked like dog droppings and were used during the Vietnam war.

  29. Re:A freaking spy rock! Sweet! by BonThomme · · Score: 1

    maybe it's a double-agent rock

  30. Re:Let's see what happens... by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

    Taking pictures inside a SCIF with your personal electronic devices is a major no-no. This guy is about to get slapped down hard for that alone.

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  31. Re:Let's see what happens... by rot26 · · Score: 2

    You probably have a good imagination, it would seem.

    This guy has a plan and it has nothing to do with actually succeeding with the auction... for the intended audience (maybe just one person) this is a shot across the bow, in a public forum, and the most important information (to the right person) is what is not said. 90% of this story (if it's not a hoax, which it probably is) will never be told, which may be the whole point here.

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  32. Doesn't ebay charge for listings? by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

    If this guy's minimum price is ten million dollars, won't he be on the hook for several hundred thousand in fees to ebay if it doesn't sell?

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  33. Old tech by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

    MI6 tried that and it was discovered back in 2006

  34. This guy isn't a U.S. citizen... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Nobody born and bred in the U.S of A. ends their correspondence with cheers.

    Just sayin'

    Cheers!

  35. Repurcussions for buyer? by mysidia · · Score: 1

    More importantly, server backups from the gentleman's time at Lockheed are included, being the real valuable in this auction

    I have a hard time imagining, that Lockheed has consented to release of server backups containing intellectual property they made or have an interest in.

    1. Re:Repurcussions for buyer? by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Lockheed failed to pay = finalize the contract that would obligate the contractor to destroy these backups. What they consent or not consent to is moot, the guy was in a separate company, the company delivered a product and wasn't paid for it. That means Lockheed doesn't own any IP to that product (which apparently doesn't stop them from manufacturing it).

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    2. Re:Repurcussions for buyer? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      the guy was in a separate company, the company delivered a product and wasn't paid for it.

      In other words, the IP belongs to the separate company, he was hired to do work for; Not Lockheed, and Not the guy.

      Failing to have a contract requiring he destroy the data doesn't give him a right to copy and distribute it though.

      So in theory there is the potential for serious consequences against both buyer and seller of the eBay auction; assuming that eBay doesn't pull the auction, and the DoD doesn't interrupt the sale, by freezing assets as soon as money changes hands.

    3. Re:Repurcussions for buyer? by Fjandr · · Score: 1

      The company was liquidated, so there's nobody to sue him for misusing the IP from that company.

  36. Sure we do. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    Nobody born and bred in the U.S of A. ends their correspondence with cheers.

    Lots of us do - and have for decades.

    I've used it in email practically since there's been email - and I was born and raised almost in the center of the "radio accent" heartland.

    It's short and often just the right tone for ending a written communication.

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  37. Spy Rocks by brunnegd · · Score: 1

    Several companies and government agencies have developed disguised sensors over the last 20 years. Not sure whats unique, or why the seller thinks his ideas and those of his company were stolen.