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Synchronized Virtual Reality Heartbeat Triggers Out-of-Body Experiences

Zothecula writes "New research demonstrates that triggering an out-of-body experience (OBE) could be as simple as getting a person to watch a video of themselves with their heartbeat projected onto it. According to the study, it's easy to trick the mind into thinking it belongs to an external body and manipulate a person's self-consciousness by externalizing the body's internal rhythms. The findings could lead to new treatments for people with perceptual disorders such as anorexia and could also help dieters too."

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  1. Videos become illegal.. by FrankSchwab · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So, when does this technique get declared illegal, like all drug-based methods of altering mental states (other than alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine)?

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    1. Re:Videos become illegal.. by bdwebb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I know that you're AC and are trolling but I'll bite on this one and tell you that you're the problem with politics and progress in this nation.

      Dude made a fair witticism about the government's overwhelming tendency to legislate down things that are not understood in the interests of 'protecting us' from ourselves, especially where drugs aside from the big 3 are concerned. You respond with 'Keep crying, pothead.' which is so short-sighted it hurts. People like you don't even think two steps beyond themselves and keep themselves locked in an ignorant little hole where they already know all the answers that they ever need. You also vote along party lines every time because you are part of the RIGHT 'club' and people in your club are all on the same side (except when you really start looking at policies and political opinions and voting history and all those little pesky details that you don't concern yourself with).

      There is a reason that the majority of the nation has agreed that Marijuana has medicinal functions even though the federal government vehemently denies any medicinal use is possible. This is because they don't want to look like fucking morons for filling our prisons full of non-violent marijuana users so that we can all get buttfucked by the tax man to feed and house people who, most of the time, WERE ALREADY DOING THIS THEMSELVES /AND/ PAYING TAXES. Ultimately you hear the word Marijuana or any argument even closely related to drug policy and put your fingers in your ears and scream 'LA LA LA LA' because you're just not intelligent enough to think things through.

  2. Freaky Mind Porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm putting this out there:

    Tactile suit that stimulates you in various points, synchronised to the vision of someone else being stimulated in the same way.

    Who is that someone? Someone of the opposite gender? A furry animal? Who knows?

    Psychologist advised.

  3. Evidence that body-identification is illusion by John+Allsup · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any tennis or squash player knows that you treat the racquet as an extension of your body.  Likewise a musician treats the instrument as an extension of their body and that as an extension of their mind and emotions.  Feeling one with your instrument is of great benefit to playing, and it is a similar 'illusion'.

    A common misperception, according to what is taught in classical disciplines that involve serious mind training, like raja yoga or taiji, is that we are not our bodies, nor is our mind and consciousness really seated in our heads.  After significant self-development, that illusion eventually dissipates.

    What we perceive to be our body is that part of reality that appears to be strongly correlated to our minds.  Thus it is easy to mistake ourselves to be our bodies, and our minds for our brains.

    The problem with much of this research is that the researchers have not developed a detailed understanding of their own mind before trying to experimentally analyse someone else's.  This is akin to trying to study an advanced maths paper when you haven't learned maths past high school level: the result is naive researchers whose qualifications and professional position give an illusion of greater research competence than they have. 

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    1. Re:Evidence that body-identification is illusion by Jmc23 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Careful. What they actually teach is that the physical body is a 'projection'. You are not your body, nor your mind, but you create both in your interaction with 'reality'.

      Give the west a break, they're relatively new at this. It's fun to watch them name 'discoveries' after themselves and congratulate each other on their awesomeness when they're just rediscovering things from millenia ago.

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    2. Re:Evidence that body-identification is illusion by Ksevio · · Score: 2

      Looks like you accidentally applied the teletext tag to your comment. Slashdot's comment system can be a bit complicated, but if you preview text looks all blocky in harder to read mono-space you know you've made a mistake.

  4. Teledildonics by girlintraining · · Score: 2

    There's another application that is being overlooked: Porn videos. Now you can have an "in another body" experience. -_- And to think, we thought we'd have to wait for holodecks....

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  5. Re:And the survival-selection hypothesis would be. by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not every trait or implication of traits that we have is based on some evolutionary advantage. Some of it is simply accidental.

  6. Re:And the survival-selection hypothesis would be. by stewsters · · Score: 2

    The brain has the ability to remap and reroute it's perception of itself. This is useful if you ever loose a leg or arm, your brain can think of your body differently to get past it. Sometimes this does not work correctly (phantom limb pain). There have also been some attempts in robotics to have the robot recalculate the best form of movement through simulation when one of its legs is damaged.

    Your brain also has the ability to imagine future scenarios, even impossible ones. Some people have had dreams where they were flying of their own power. There is not really any biological cause that I know of that could cause you to fly, sometimes the brain just has a good imagination.

  7. Out-of-body is not near-death by wherrera · · Score: 2

    This news item and the gizmag.com link both confuse the study's method of tricking the body into being confused about where the body is and the near-death experience of being outside the body completely.

  8. Re:And the survival-selection hypothesis would be. by sjames · · Score: 3, Insightful

    More fundamentally, the process of growing up is a constant adjustment for changing anatomy. Not being able to make that adjustment would result in an incredibly clumsy adult.

  9. Re:Out-of-body by Spy+Handler · · Score: 2

    but the machine may lead to religious experimenting with grave consequences.

    Suppose this VR apparatus is extensively tested, and some of the test subjects having out-of-body experiences see things that would be impossible to see from the (real) body's location. What then?

    Like, the subject is lying down in the left side of the room, there is a divider in the middle, and through the VR goggles he is tricked into thinking his body is in the right side of the room. Now place an object in the right side of the room in such a way that it's impossible for the body lying down in the left side of the room to see it. Can the subject accurately describe the object? This is kind of perception is what US Army/SRI's remote viewing program claims they were able to achieve. However they didn't have these goggles and had no way to repeatably and reliably achieve an OOB state, it all depended on individual ability.

    Currently all of science and medicine consider OOB and religious experiences to be hallucinations and that all perception and thought exist in the brain exclusively. If repeatable experiments prove this false, it would open the floodgates.

  10. Re:Misleading Headline by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh, and as for this being an already known phenomenon -- what's really happening* is that your left cortex, which focuses on detail and anchors the "me" in the surge of signals your brain processes, gets overridden by the right cortex, which tends to ignore localities (like your body) and instead focus on piecing together the bigger picture. So if your right cortex takes over driving your consciousness, your body itself is no longer the predominant frame of reference, triggering OBE.

    * best theory on what's really happening anyway -- one that's been posited and tested over the past decade by neuroscientists.

  11. Re:Out-of-body by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2

    Suppose this VR apparatus is extensively tested, and some of the test subjects having out-of-body experiences see things that would be impossible to see from the (real) body's location. What then?

    Then we would have a repeatable phenomenon which we could investigate (assuming we can exclude plain fraud). However I'm willing to bet that this won't happen.

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  12. Re:Out-of-body by h4rr4r · · Score: 2

    If you could do that there is a nice man that will give you one million dollars.

    I personally think the more likely outcome is that he gets to keep his money.

  13. Re:Are you kidding me? by Jmc23 · · Score: 2
    Can't people think for themselves anymore?

    Just match your breathing and heart rate to the doctor, you will then be giving the prostate exam!

    ..um, not sure that's any better..

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  14. Re:Misleading Headline by narcc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because Randi's silly challenge is meaningless nonsense?

    To clarify my point, I'll offer my own challenge: One Million Dollars to empirically show that it's possible for someone to dream while asleep.

    I know that quite a few people claim to dream while they're asleep, but they're clearly either delusional or money-grubbing attention seekers. I mean, if people really could dream, it would be a cinch to win that million dollars, right? I'm not picky. I'll give you every fair advantage. I'll even work with you to find a test protocol that is acceptable to both of us.

    Now, a million dollars is a lot of money, so you'll first have to get some media attention before you'll be allowed to apply. I don't have time deal with every mentally ill person who thinks they can dream while they're asleep! I've got to reserve my resources for the big-name crooks and charlatans. Once you make a proper application and it has been accepted and approved, you'll need to pass a preliminary test. You can arrange that with a local university or skeptical group. (Pending my approval, of course.) If you pass that, you can apply to take the official challenge.

    Who would turn down a million dollars just to do something they claim not only comes easily, but that they do every night! Even if you don't want or need an extra million dollars, surely you can think of a worthy charity!

    Don't doubt my credentials. I'm exceptionally qualified to judge your challenge attempt as I can juggle a bit and know some really keen magic tricks.

    That no one has yet to even pass the preliminary challenge speaks volumes!