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More Bad News From Fukushima

PuceBaboon writes "Both Reuters and the BBC are carrying the story of an increase in radiation levels reported by Tepco for contaminated water leaking from storage tanks on site. When this leak was discovered almost two weeks ago, Tepco reported that the radiation level was 100-millisieverts. It now transpires that 100-millisieverts was the highest reading that the measuring equipment in use was capable of displaying. The latest readings (with upgraded equipment) are registering 1800-millisieverts which, according to both news sources, could prove fatal to anyone exposed to it for four hours. Coincidentally (and somewhat ironically), today is earthquake disaster prevention day in Japan, with safety drills taking place nationwide."

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  1. Where were the professionals. by PlusFiveTroll · · Score: 5, Insightful

    -Tepco reported that the radiation level was 100-millisieverts. It now transpires that 100-millisieverts was the highest reading that the measuring equipment in use was capable of displaying.

    What the actual fuck. How could such a stupid mistake be made?

    1. Re:Where were the professionals. by tuo42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's what I was thinkng also!

      Then again, it is a very interesting way of damage control. Simply bring equipment which can only measure up to the damage level we want.

      I cannot understand how a company can make such a mistake. This is the most severe radioactive problem at the moment, threatening to change a country for the next decades.

      They know how important this is, and fail to bring along the right equipment?

      Unbelievable...

    2. Re: Where were the professionals. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      They were using the deluxe meter but forgot to bring the pro meter that day.

    3. Re:Where were the professionals. by jamesh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      -Tepco reported that the radiation level was 100-millisieverts. It now transpires that 100-millisieverts was the highest reading that the measuring equipment in use was capable of displaying.

      What the actual fuck. How could such a stupid mistake be made?

      Wouldn't be the first time testing was stopped as soon as a nice answer was found...

    4. Re:Where were the professionals. by Sqr(twg) · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just wait a few weeks until they find out that 1800 mSv is the maximum reading on the new instrument.

    5. Re:Where were the professionals. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It is all intentional and just a big game of what they can cover up and with which lies they can get away with.
      The whole Fukushima operation is just a big scam with Tepco and the government as key players.
      The current LDP government is financially supported by all major Japanese companies that are heavily involved in the nuclear industry.
      That was a very lucrative business because there were hardly any rules that could not be bend but that has all gone bad after the Fukushima disaster.
      The main objective for Tepco and the LDP prime minister is to get nuclear energy accepted again.
      Although there are many accidents and false reports, the national media does not pay much attention, fearing the wrath of the LDP patry and some of the major companies here in Japan. But that doesn't differ much from the US I guess.
      Also, the national television company is just another propaganda media outlet but may Japanese are not aware of this fact.

      Japan has a long history of cover-ups when the government and major Japanese companies are involved.

    6. Re:Where were the professionals. by Urkki · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What the actual fuck. How could such a stupid mistake be made?

      Well, situation was probably carefully evaluated, and everything considered, it was decided that this is a mistake worth making. Just speculating to provide an example, there may have been something else happening at the same time, some evaluation or hearing or whatever, and there it was important that the reading was not too high, so the short term mistake at the expense of looking like amateurs was deemed a good trade.

    7. Re:Where were the professionals. by lxs · · Score: 2

      Just be glad that it was an actual radiation detector and not a rebranded golf ball finder.

    8. Re:Where were the professionals. by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Tepco needs to be taken out of the equation. Now.

      (Though they can still pay the cleanup bill...)

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    9. Re:Where were the professionals. by AHuxley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It allows "smart" people note that the rates are like a medical xray or passenger flight and get modded up as the math is sort of correct.

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    10. Re:Where were the professionals. by polar+red · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Humanity has a long history of cover-ups when big organisations are involved.

      FTFY

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    11. Re:Where were the professionals. by gweihir · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You cannot measure radiation underwater. Usual measurement is 1m free-air-distance, but at the level they observe, they cannot sent anyone in there to make these measurements.

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    12. Re:Where were the professionals. by frootcakeuk · · Score: 2

      It is! Unbelievable! As in I actually don't believe them!

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    13. Re:Where were the professionals. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      It isn't damage control. It is technician stupidity. There are a wide range of radiation meters. But the type that can read up to 200 Rem/hr (2,000 mSv) aren't common. A typical meter won't even read up to 1 Rem/hr, because such high levels aren't common. Only casualty meters read higher.

      Any decent health physicist is acutely aware of where the meter saturates (which can sometimes be caused by the electronics itself--you really need to understand how your meter works when you adjust the scales).

      Simply bring equipment which can only measure up to the damage level we want.

      No, you bring the meter with the radiation you expect to find. If it is higher, you back out and bring a meter for that. If your readings are 50 mRem/hr at most points, it is ridiculous to carry around a meter than reads 0-200 Rem/hr. It is not precise. It is like reading the speed on your speedometer when it is calibrated in units of 500 mph.

    14. Re:Where were the professionals. by zm · · Score: 2

      Usual measurement is 1m free-air-distance, but at the level they observe, they cannot sent anyone in there to make these measurements.

      According to TFA, they can, with basic protection:

      Tepco said the radiation measured was beta rays, which would be easier to protect against than gamma rays.

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    15. Re:Where were the professionals. by c0lo · · Score: 2

      -Tepco reported that the radiation level was 100-millisieverts. It now transpires that 100-millisieverts was the highest reading that the measuring equipment in use was capable of displaying.

      What the actual fuck. How could such a stupid mistake be made?

      Yes, the test should have been repeated using measuring device with 10-millisieverts max scale: everything would be normal then, no reason to worry.

      (ducks)

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    16. Re:Where were the professionals. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      Not to worry. The water all leaked out.

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    17. Re:Where were the professionals. by Redmancometh · · Score: 2

      Maybe it was an incompetent news agency reporting on a preliminary result. 100 millisieverts is a pretty high level on its own after all.

    18. Re:Where were the professionals. by Joining+Yet+Again · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It isn't damage control. It is technician stupidity.

      Apologists need to stop trotting out equivalents to, "Don't attribute to malice.. bla bla stupidity," at every corner.

      It's not the middle of the 20th century. We're awash with excellent physicists who can't find a job, and I can assure you that everyone in the highly competitive Japan who has a job in the nuclear industry has the technical ability.

      What they don't have is a moral compass: it's a very obeisant culture.

    19. Re:Where were the professionals. by gweihir · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That is a lie. Well, the part about Beta is true, so yes, they can. But there is no feasible protection against Gamma rays for people. The only thing that is there (lead aprons) reduce it at best down to 50%, but they are so heavy that you move at half the speed or slower, so no protection at all. At Cernobyl, the experts decided that running was by far the best protection available, and have a look at how few of them are still alive.

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    20. Re:Where were the professionals. by DarkOx · · Score: 2

      If your equipments scale goes to 100 and the reading you get is 100; than its pretty incompetent to report that value as anything other than 'its at least 100'

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    21. Re: Where were the professionals. by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But it should be obvious to anyone that if your equipment pegs to 100mSv and no higher that something is wrong, and you shouldn't go to the media claiming 100mSv was the likely extent of the radiation levels in the leak.

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    22. Re:Where were the professionals. by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

      I get that, but if your speedometer is pegged to the maximum reading at 150mph, the thought might occur to you that you are going faster.

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    23. Re:Where were the professionals. by thej1nx · · Score: 4, Informative

      The same way, news medias like to make "intentional mis-interpretation" for sake of sensationalism and more eyeballs. http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/announcements/2013/1230191_5502.html

    24. Re:Where were the professionals. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3

      Japan needs to ask for the help of international experts. There is a ton of unutilized nuclear expertise just in the US who could be a part of this effort.

    25. Re:Where were the professionals. by GNious · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It isn't damage control. It is technician stupidity.

      Apologists need to stop trotting out equivalents to, "Don't attribute to malice.. bla bla stupidity," at every corner.

      People just need to understand that there is a point where Stupidity stops being a valid and reasonable excuse. Still having Tepco handling all of this is one such case, where it is not longer correct to attribute it to Stupidity.

    26. Re: Where were the professionals. by antifoidulus · · Score: 3, Funny

      My speedo only goes to 85!
      . That sounds like a personal issue, not a mechanical one...

    27. Re:Where were the professionals. by GNious · · Score: 3

      [...] but at the level they observe, they cannot sent anyone in there to make these measurements.

      Oh, I'm sure they can locate some individuals in the upper management, who could/should be sent in.....

    28. Re:Where were the professionals. by fnj · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If your equipment only registers to 100 and you read 100 on it, then it is WHOLLY imcompetent not to RUN and get better equipment to re-measure.

    29. Re:Where were the professionals. by drerwk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Are you telling my the Mach meter on my deux chevaux is pointless?

    30. Re:Where were the professionals. by oobayly · · Score: 2

      Clearly it's because the pitot tube is behind the shock cone. Citroen's transonic aerodynamics were always a bit suspect.

    31. Re:Where were the professionals. by thsths · · Score: 2

      At least 100 is the scientific statement - the correct statement in plain English is "the reading is off the scale". That also conveys the urgency properly. But of course PR prevented that from being publish - which means that now they have to deal with the fact that they have been lying to the public.

    32. Re:Where were the professionals. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Japanese government already practically owns TEPCO because it had to nationalize it to cover the clean-up cost. They just don't have any administrative control or use their shareholder rights.

      So basically TEPCO is in charge but not paying the bulk of the bill. The situation is not unique to Japan, every country with nuclear power would be in the same situation if something like that happened because getting commercial insurance to cover the hundreds of billions of dollars it costs is impossible.

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    33. Re:Where were the professionals. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A high end radiation meter is not the same as a low end one. The principle you are using for multiple ranges is more complex than that of a DVM. You are literally talking about the ionization ranges of a gas (Rest In Peace Little Grey Cat--Recomb, Ionization, Proportional, Limited Proportional, Geiger-Mueller, Continuous Discharge regions, if I recall correctly). You can't simply make a meter with a selector switch that will work across all ranges. And if you are in a very high field, you may even need to shield your meter to prevent the gas from being continuously ionized and your anode eroded by your high volts power supply.

      Let me guess, you have never actually professionally used one of these meters. And now you are trying to lecture someone who has and calling bullshit?

    34. Re:Where were the professionals. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Your GENERAL PRINCIPLE is full of shit. Tell me how a multimeter does it first. Now tell me how a radiation meter would do it? And how a radiation meter is constructed? You feel that you can just apply order of magnitude higher voltages across a gas forever? Is that what you think? Again I ask, do you even know how a radiation meter is constructed? Do you????

      +3 Interesting? For this fucking stupidity?

      And then to cap it off, the asshole brings up the precision question. I mean, for fucks sake. Did you even consider the the precision of a measurement that is within the magnitude of the scale always remains constant as long as you use the most precise scale available? If you read 25 mRem/hr on a 0-50 mRem/hr scale, you will have the same relative precision as 250 mRem/hr on a 0-500 mRem/hr scale. Oh, but now you want everybody to operate with the scales maxed, so you can read the 25 mRem/hr on a 0-5000 mRem/hr scale? Are you fucking stupid? Go get the right meter and measure it right. At that scale electronic noise will be enough to confuse you (it could be 0 or 100 mRem/hr).

      tl;dr: the above poster doesn't know jack shit about what he is talking about.

    35. Re:Where were the professionals. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      The measurement likely was 1099, and the display was 099.
      So everything was fine.

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    36. Re:Where were the professionals. by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful
      It must be a digital display, because you can clearly see when a needle (like a speedometer) is pinned.

      I think there is a real takehome lesson for designing instrumentation here. A device should not show the value "100" for "everything greater than 100." Under overload it should just show a row of hyphens or something. Even my cheap little digital kitchen scale does this.

    37. Re:Where were the professionals. by 0111+1110 · · Score: 2

      Those CDV-715 victoreen meters are considered a joke. They don't use Geiger tubes. They use Ion Chambers which are only useful at levels that would be fatal to a human within hours. If it detects anything then you are dead. So that was not a particularly good example and that $5 meter won't be particularly useful unless someone nukes your front yard and I think at that point you wouldn't need the radiation meter to tell you to run, not walk, away. Victoreen did make one meter that was a Geiger counter: the CDV-700. Those can be somewhat useful if they are properly calibrated but such calibration is not cheap.

      http://www.ebay.com/gds/What-Geiger-counter-is-best-for-your-needs-/10000000103552954/g.html

      Almost every seller on Ebay is now listing their CDV-715's as Geiger counters and fooling people into buying them. The CDV-715, 710, 720, and all others that ARE NOT the 700, are survey meters for VERY high levels of radiation that would be lethal within hours, produced from a nuclear bomb. THESE ARE TOO HIGH EVEN TO DETECT THE RADIATION DIRECTLY OFF THE REACTOR IN JAPAN! Buy these as cool collectables or as a preventitive measure in case we get nuked. Never pay more than $40 for one unless it's a rare collectable model.

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    38. Re:Where were the professionals. by Mateorabi · · Score: 2

      I used to drive a Dodge Colt. That old rust bucket wouldn't get over 65 if you dropped it of a cliff.

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    39. Re:Where were the professionals. by cyfer2000 · · Score: 2

      If MY equipment only registers to 100 millisieverts and I read 100 millisieverts on it, then I will run away and do NOT come back!

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    40. Re:Where were the professionals. by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 2

      None of which is relevant.
      The point is, Tepco technicians used a 0-100 mSv instrument in an 1800 mSv area, then claimed that it was just a mistake.
      Not credible.

  2. Oblig. by bondsbw · · Score: 4, Informative

    1800 mSv is 36 times the maximum yearly dose permitted to US radiation workers. More here.

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    1. Re:Oblig. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Per hour.

    2. Re:Oblig. by BigDukeSix · · Score: 3, Interesting

      These are really big doses we are talking about, in the range of what external-beam radiotherapy uses to destroy tumors. When stating that four hours' dosage at this level is likely to be lethal, this means "likely to be lethal by acute radiation sickness with death occurring in days." In reality, much shorter exposures are likely to be lethal from induced cancers (leukemia and thyroid cancers being common). It will just take longer for those people to die. I suspect that most of the workers who have been on site to this point have likely had their fates sealed.

  3. This error was done more than once by burni2 · · Score: 2

    This error, reporting such a dead end scale value, was also reported sometime ago by Tepco, and there was another time before that, sorry I cannot get the links out so quickly but I clearly remember this. This same mistake has occured more than once within the hole Fukushima disaster,

    The scheme is also the same: First, horray everything is safe. Later, Ups the needle hit the scale end and we did not tell them to start running.

    How could .. ?
    Well, on the one hand untrained personel or simply intentional or both.

    1. Re:This error was done more than once by fritsd · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Here's a scary thought: maybe most of their trained personnel has already received the maximum lifetime dose and has been given their retirement already..

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  4. Wrong issue by gweihir · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While everybody is writing about the water, the real issue is the spent-fuel-rod pool. If that thing is not secured very soon, Tokyo becoming uninhabitable within a very short time is a real possibility. There is so much radiation in there, it is staggering. The pool is inadequately cooled. The pool is damaged enough that even a minor earthquake could prevent cooling it more and a fire starting in there would both be impossible to put out and starting by itself very fast. If that happens, only the wind not blowing in the wrong direction could save most of Japans industrial base and a significant part of its population. With the probability of minor earthquakes in that area, they are already on borrowed time.

    Personal prediction: TEPCO will go on blundering about, and eventually they will get a nuclear catastrophe that makes all others so far look like a summer breeze. After that, Japan will not play a role in the world for a few thousand years or longer, because for all intents and purposes it will not really be there anymore.

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    1. Re:Wrong issue by durrr · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sounds like you sourced that from HystericGreenAlarmism.com

    2. Re:Wrong issue by gweihir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That is probably what the Japanese are thinking also. It is called denial, and it can kill on a large scale if practiced in the face of a severe risk.

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    3. Re:Wrong issue by Joining+Yet+Again · · Score: 2, Funny

      The end of the world is neigh?

      OMG PONIES.

    4. Re:Wrong issue by nojayuk · · Score: 3, Informative

      I presume you are referring to the spent fuel pool in the reactor 4 building as that's the one that's been reported by fantasists and alarmists like Arne Gunderson as exploding, imminently collapsing, bulging, disintegrating, sinking into the ground and catching fire ever since the accidents happened. Unfortunately for their delusions reactor 4 is still there as is its spent fuel pool which today has a water temperature of 38 deg C., not what I'd describe as "inadequately cooled".

      Right now the engineers at Fukushima Daiichi are finishing building a crane and supporting structure on reactor 4 in preparation to start removing the spent fuel rods from the pool. They've been working on this project for more than a year, clearing away the rubble on top of the building and constructing a heavy foundation before erecting the crane structure alongside and on top of the building and enclosing the top of the building in a weather shield since, in the words of George RR Martin, "winter is coming".

      The crane system has to be heavily built since it will be craning fuel canisters weighing over a hundred tonnes out of the pool after spent fuel bundles are loaded into them. It's not something that can be done safely in an ad-hoc manner despite the Chicken Littles running around in a panic screaming "the world is ending!". Once the crane's up and running in the next few weeks it should only take a month or two to empty the pool of fuel bundles at which time I'm sure the folks worrying about it will turn their attention to the other reactor spent fuel pools which are also in train to be emptied too.

    5. Re:Wrong issue by Splab · · Score: 2

      Speaking of bullshit, it's very hard to take you serious when you spew it yourself about Chernobyl. People did not go into panic mode and there was lots of measurements published, in fact the reason why the USSR admitted the accident was because Sweden (first) and then Denmark started picking up unusual high radiation readings. Granted, if you lived in the eastern block, you would probably have been spoon fed bullshit, but the scale of the catastrophe was quite clear to the western world.

    6. Re:Wrong issue by greg_barton · · Score: 2

      All you've presented are your words. Please back up your extra ordinary claims with reliable sources.

    7. Re:Wrong issue by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This thread exemplifies the entire radiation insanity fear very well. I hope every intelligent Slashdot reader is watching this. Because this is what it is like to discuss Fukushima or Global Warming amongst the public.

      Just this week I sat across from a veteran software engineer who, in all seriousness, said "Fukushima will be uninhabitable for 6,000 years. Probably 60,000 years." He had no basis for such a claim. I assumed engineers would not make such statements without any knowledge, but apparently not. Radiation fear goes deeper than that. People don't even understand the basics of how radiation works. But this kind of insanity is so ingrained into peoples minds that it doesn't need a source. The two ingrained assumptions seem to be that "Any amount of radiation = deadly" and "All radiation lasts for thousands of years." It is just treated as common sense, and doesn't need any backing. Oh, the other one is that "if radiation contacts something, that thing because radioactive, and so on into perpituity." Beware of these assumptions when discussing anything involving radiation.

      As this thread continues, notice that gweihir claims that there is no need to backup his claims "unless you are illiterate." Wow. Just. Wow. If I wasn't having to debunk this kind of thing every week, I would shake my head and move on thinking "Troll." But folks: this is your peers. Your fellow voters.

      So many of these claims are like saying a firecracker exploded a mile away, and you got hit by the debris. People seem to have a common-sense understanding of everyday physics: fire, explosions, guns, maybe even chemicals. But nuclear radiation is just magical. It can do anything, over any distance, any time..

      I really have to thank durrr for his comment about HystericGreenAlarmism.com. That is not that far from the truth. Let me show how this situation is worse than one might think.

      Last week I had a relative link to an article at some site like nature news blog or something named like that, which made similar insane claims to what gweihir is claiming -- BUT WITH CITATIONS. That is where things become a real problem. There is so much false science out there, and it isn't easy to determine what is real and what isn't. The claims in the article were so egregious that anyone with familiarity with the subject would instantly know it was false. It was like my firecracker example. But not everyone has that background. A 5 minute search turned-up a Scientific American article that basically showed the study was intentionally faked. But the nature blog had several such ridiculous claims and I don't have time to debunk each and every one. Real information is harder to find than fake information.

      So what do we do about this?

    8. Re:Wrong issue by Yomers · · Score: 2

      Speaking of bullshit, it's very hard to take you serious when you spew it yourself about Chernobyl.

      Check how Chernobyl was handled - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Q6VDQWtqk . In short - 600 000 people finished sarcophagus in half a year. What is done to secure Fukushima in more than 2 years? Also check comparison - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Fukushima_and_Chernobyl_nuclear_accident , look at radiation levels on site and amount of fuel in reactors. Fukushima is much easier to clean up than Chernobyl, and risk of apocalyptic contamination is much higher! One more tsunami and what? What will happen if all fuel that is now in reactors will be washed out to the ocean and spread worldwide by currents? It's a fucking doomsday machine that is set to trigger by random chance! Maybe Tepco employ dr. Strangelove as head of clean up operation?

    9. Re:Wrong issue by amaurea · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What will happen if all fuel that is now in reactors will be washed out to the ocean and spread worldwide by currents?

      That's a really good question! I'd like to know the answer myself. Let's try a rough back-of-the-envelope calculation.

      According to this, the risky fuel pond 4 has 1.4e18 Bq of mostly Cesium 137 which decays by beta and gamma radiation, releasing 1.176MeV per decay, giving 264 kW total. If dissipated uniformly in the ocean, this would result in 264 kW/1.3e18kg = 2.0e-13 W/kg = 2.0e-13 Gray/s. Since it is beta and gamma radiation and uniformly permeating, we can translate this directly into 2.0e-13 Sv/s = 6.4 uSv/year. This can be compared to the natural background radiation, which is about 2.4 mSv/year.

      However, Cesium may be subject to bioaccumulation. If we assume perfect bioaccumulation, then all the cesium at the bottom of the food chain will end up at the top (i.e. humans). This is a huge exaggeration (think many orders of magnitude), but let's see what we get. The total ocean biomass is about 2.24e14 kg, while the total human biomass is about 3.5e11 kg. So after all the ocean biomass has passed through humans, and if all the Cesium is retained (whch it won't be), then we would have magnification of 640, bringing us to 4.1 mSv/year, which is almost double the natural background radiation. So that might give measurable effects, but is still not dangerous.

      So unless I have made any huge errors, it seems like Fukushima will not be able to threaten humanity. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be a local problem, though.

  5. Argh. That's not a radiation level. by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 5, Informative

    1800 millisieverts is a dose, not a level. It's as basic a mistake as confusing feet with feet per second.

    From other sources, it's a logical guess that what's meant is millisieverts per hour but an article should not make the reader guess what it means.

    1. Re: Argh. That's not a radiation level. by mrbester · · Score: 2

      Neither are barleycorns but that doesn't stop shoes from being sized using them.

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    2. Re:Argh. That's not a radiation level. by alexhs · · Score: 2

      Of course "feet" is not a unit. Everybody in the world except a couple of countries knows that.

      Well, I agree that feet usually come in pairs rather than units. Still, that's not a reason to mock disabled countries.

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  6. This was NOT mistake. by boorack · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It was deliberate, somewhat shortsighted lie. This is how every fuckin big fat corporation behaves these days. It is worse than communism. Just compare Fukushima fiasco to old commies handling Chernobyl. They did everything they could to NOT let this crap hit watertable. They've put liquid nitrogen injecting installation under the reactor to make sure it won't burn through the basement and won't contaminate ground waters. They've put 600 thousands people to work to clean up their mess (every man for one minute or so). Compare this to the crap, lies, corruption and cost cuttings TEPCO is doing on their site. Our corporate fascist system is failing us badly and if we won't put them all in check soon, consequences of their misdeeds, greed and corruption will hit us hard.

    1. Re:This was NOT mistake. by sjames · · Score: 2

      At least in the old USSR, if your screw-up was embarrassing enough you could fall out of favor. Under corrupt capitalism, as long as your bank balance stays high, you can do no wrong.

  7. Assume the best, ignore the worst by Required+Snark · · Score: 2
    This is business as usual for Tepco, and the entire 'Nuclear Village' in Japan (the combined utility, industry, regulator and government group that controls nuclear energy in the country).

    This has been going on since before the plants were built. The reactors were so vulnerable to the earthquake/tsunami because they deliberately ignored the historical record of flooding in that part of Japan. The collective decision was made to ignore the worst case scenario.

    After the earthquake, flood and power outage, the upper management was incompetently slow to make decisions because they were unwilling to think about loosing the plants and the likelihood of radioactivity being released. It was only the heroic action of the technical team at the site that averted a disaster worse the Chernobyl. They ultimately had to disobey direct orders to save the situation.

    In the period after the so called 'shutdown' the authorities have been maintaining a delusional belief that they are doing an acceptable job and events are under control. Neither is true.

    Delusional thinking is supported by not doing obvious monitoring procedures. It's magical thinking: if they don't know how bad it is, then things must be OK.

    There is an ongoing failure to monitor radiation at the plant site, in the ocean and on the land. NGOs and international entities have been denied permission to do independent monitoring in the exclusion area and the ocean near the plant. One NGO Safecast has been doing radiation monitoring outside the exclusion zone and making the data available.

    Quibbling about whether beta radiation is lethal is an example of delusional thinking. The fact that there are an entire spectrum of recently discovered radioactive water leaks is the critical information. None of these leaks were found in a timely manor. This happening two years after the reactor failure is appalling.

    Tepco does not know how bad things are because they don't want to know. The rest of the Nuclear Village is not much better. The Abe government is putting significant effort into trying to restart other closed reactors at the expense of dealing with Fukushima. The Nuclear Regulatory Agency has no credibility, because they have done almost nothing to make Tepco more responsible. Tepco and the NRA have been hiding as much information from the public as they can, so no-one believes anything they say.

    The prognosis is bleak. The situation is deteriorating, and two years have been wasted while ignoring the obvious. There does not seem to be any organization in Japan that has the leadership ability to manage the crisis. The likelihood of another very serious radiation leak is going up with time, not down.

    It is completely possible that there will be a dramatic failure and an internationally chartered group will take over long term responsibility. This is in effect what happened at Chernobyl. See New Safe Containment.

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  8. meltdown by NickOlson2338 · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is not an anomaly but a continuing pattern of deception and lack of forthright information.This is of global concern and needs a global response.Sadly the worlds misleaders would rather play golf than address the most serious global contamination to date.

  9. Gamma radiation 5cm from the bottom: 1 mSv/hour by amaurea · · Score: 2