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Linux 3.11 Released
hypnosec writes "Linus Torvalds has just announced the release of Linux 3.11 as anticipated. Torvalds notes that the final version doesn't bring in a lot more than what is already present in the rc7, but it does include fixes — most of them in networking, file systems, and audio."
That's what I want to know. Also, how many floppies?
Sadly, no mention of the christening in any of today's stories! Possibly the name was only for rc1 though.
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When Linus dies, he will be embalmed like Stalin and kept in a glass case for all the acolytes to file past... Eventually, like Stalin, most of his flesh will be replaced with wax. Indeed, secretly, Madame Tussaud will be asked to create a Torvald corpse to replace the real body, which will be shipped to a laboratory where technicians will attempt to reanimate Linus. This will be done with secret procedures gleaned from hacking Scientology's servers on how they did the same thing to Tom Cruise.
That's correct. Here's the diff: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/Makefile?id=ad81f0545ef01ea651886dddac4bef6cec930092.
Note that the previous version, 3.10, was named "Unicycling Gorilla". The fact that you probably had no idea it was named that shows just how important these release names are. :)
Reminds me of a comment by an overpaid manager saying that Windows was more mature because it was at version 7 while Linux was behind at 3.
you could try upgrading your kernel to get access to newer driver revisions.
isn't linux suppose to run on a toaster? But whenever someone brings up a problem its their piece of shit, and of course no one is having issues, no one else fucking uses it
Still a long way to go to Linux 95.
"Fuck you," he added.
From the litany of problems listed, it sounds like there might be hardware issues, but drivers are a possibility as well.
If you're going to post Linux release announcements, remember to link the Kernel Newbies page, since they document the big changes.
http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.11
You obviously don't know what you're doing, and it's your fault for choosing junk, uncommon hardware. BTW, real men use a PS/2 mouse rather than new fangled USB thing. The cursor stays responsive in swap hell when it doesn't have to go through a USB stack.
Please tell us what distro you're using so we can start a flame war. :D
On a more serious note, How do you know it's a kernel panic? Is it in the logs? Does it drop to a terminal saying it? Except for the kernel panic part, I'd say that most of these things seem to be GUI and sound related. Have you checked the nice values for those systems. It could be that their "process priority" is the same as everything else. Most distros try to make sure that essential user mode processes and drivers are running with high priority, and background tasks run with low priority. Though apparently systemd uses cgroups to do that stuff, instead of process ids.
Just some food for thought. In a nutshell it sounds like X11 is a piece of crap.
So lets pretend that we've just completed writing this code, as opposed to having just completed sabotaging it -Altera
It's almost like the original comment has been run through Google Translate 30-40 times.
I think the toaster OS is NetBSD.
I should probably go take a closer look. I've been disappointed so many times, though, that my expectations are not high.
I'm sure someone has already said this, but the fact that this is Linux 3.11 means that the next version will be Linux NT.
You are welcome on my lawn.
You have just described the history of comedy since Aristophanes
You are welcome on my lawn.
Sorry, no hardware issues. Everything works perfectly in diagnostics and Windows 7...and by "everything" I also mean all the other hardware functions I can't even try to use under Linux.
Those were just the RC candidate jokes.
This is the release version.
Try to keep up.
Oops. Release Candidate jokes I mean. Half asleep...
True. I've been running Xubuntu on a Thinkpad T60 (since Natty) with no problems.
3.8 is what Ubuntu is stuck on at the moment I believe, probably what he is using... Their kernel updates are pretty barebones too, it is basically just the plain old 3.8.0 kernel. GP, you should at least try a fedora liveCD or something, they package a pretty solid build of Linux these days. And if you were using the latest Ubuntu version, I'll just say I had a bunch of issues with it too, so please try something else.
I'm waiting for Linux XP, which will never die.
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That was yesterday, dipshit, and only in the US.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
in the butt.
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Oh, yeah, timezones, duh. Nevermind...
*goes off in search of coffee*
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
What is really fantastic is the extended support for pro usb devices from Roland and Yamaha. It should be very possible to create a really effective cheap laptop DAW running Linux tuned for RT audio without having to mess install drivers the way you do with Windows. Not that you could not use these devices in the past it was just difficult to set them up correctly because alsa had trouble working with most Roland mixers and the like the only way to do it sometimes was using a stupid setup that was flaky as hell.
I hope this kernel version is adopted quickly by the Ubuntu Studio guys, but if necessary I will roll my own so I can use Roland usb devices with my laptop!
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Well, Ubuntu is on version 13, so we should definitely be using that.
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At this rate that wont happen any time soon. We are probably all dead when Linux 8 will arive :-S
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It's a Horse_ebooks wannabe.
Linux IS drivers. Just because MS outsourced important bits of their kernel to every random hardware manufacturer out there doesn't mean it's the only way to do it.
In other news bleeding edge stuff bleeds sometimes. If you want something more solid use a version that has been tested a bit more.
That's right, the f stands for 'for' and is not, as you would like to believe, a description of what Linux was doing to those Workgroups
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Possibly the name was only for rc1 though.
That would be sad. Depends if the modified logo is still in the git reop under the 3.11 branch.
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The first does not follow from the other.
One common problem is broken hardware, with an undocumented workaround in the Windows driver. Or a broken Windows standard driver, with an undocumented workaround in the hardware.
Once you get the BIOS involved, it gets even worse. Nowadays, the BIOS can do things differently depending on the OS. One motherboard had a BIOS workaround for an old bug in a 2.6 or 2.4 kernel. The next kernel version fixed the bug, and that motherboard stopped working under Linux. Make the Linux kernel identify itself to the BIOS as being XP, and everything works.
And then there's the (hardware or BIOS) features that doesn't get used by the current version of Windows, and so nobody bothers implementing them correctly. Linux, however, uses those features, and thus doesn't work. When the next Windows version uses those features, we often end up back at broken hardware with a workaround in the Windows driver.
An example: Linux was among the first to support the ATA TRIM command, and certain CD-ROM drives (I think), rather than responding with "No such command, this is not an SSD", instead entered firmware flashing mode. Not just a case of Linux not working with the drive, the drive was actually bricked in that the firmware was overwritten with random data.
Another: The Samsung UEFI machines that did not check the size of the data sent to the UEFI non-volatile RAM area. Windows only sent a few K, so no problem there. Linux used it for crash logging, and rather than reporting "not enough memory", UEFI gladly filled the entire area, leaving no space for it's own use, which was required to boot any OS.
Thanks for the litany of excuses, but at least half of the problems (like the swapping and mouse pointer problems) encountered on Linux desktops have nothing to do with drivers. Its mainly due to software architecture that's poorly suited to desktop environments.
Remember the browser-version wars? I think that IE jumped from 2.1 to 4 in a matter of weeks. Eventually, Google and Firefox took it to the logical extreme, changing major revision numbers ever 12 minutes. I guess it's still going on...
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That doesnt mean its not a hardware problem-- which it sounds like it is.
Most people do not realize that Linux even exists, yet without it, the internet will be a costly place. The common would not be able to have any money left if he/she bought a computer and software. But today, it's possible to not go bankrupt and still buy a nice computer. Now, I know that many people, me included, regards Mac OS X as one of the greatest and most innovative operating systems ever made, but Linux is still much, much more important. Without it, computers would be toys for the sort of people who spend their weekends with other people who constantly brag about their new Range Rover or new mansion, not for PEOPLE, like you and me.
It's called Zorin.
Mint is on 14, so that's one better.