What Marketers Think They Know About You and What They Really Do
mattydread23 writes "Data broker Acxiom did something a little unusual this week. It launched a service that lets you see the data they've collected on you. CITEworld writer Ron Miller checked it out, and found it to be mostly laughably inaccurate. Among the things they got wrong included his religion, his interests, and the number of kids he has. But worst? It pegged him as a Windows user."
Thought I'd look at my own data, but when they started asking for the last 4 digits of my SSN I decided I didn't care so much about what they knew about me...
And in order to see the data they have about me, I have to give them my name, home address, last four digits of my SSN? Seriously? They're going to make a fortune off of this!
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Great inclusion of the link to the service, samzenpus. I love how I didn't have to hunt for it at all.
If so, then your Linux systems are working fine! Just think of all the stupid ads they would serve up if they thought you were actually intelligent!
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
They're not _really_ trying to figure out data about who you are because they don't really care. What they care about are what ads are most likely to affect you. That's a clustering problem not an identification problem. And if those clusters happen to have similarities to a well-defined, named demographic category that just helps humans talk about them.
I had to click through to a third page before getting a link to the relevant website.
The Acxiom site is found at https://aboutthedata.com/.
Privacy policy (FWIW) is here: https://aboutthedata.com/privacy/
This is why Google launched Google+, so they could get all the info about you that Facebook got from you freely. It's also why they didn't care that is was a ghost-town after a few weeks, they got all the info they needed.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
What marketers know about me:
He's running AdBlock.
What marketers think they know:
Everyone wants to see relevant ads.
He's running AdBlock because he's annoyed that the ads he's been seeing aren't relevant enough.
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Whats unusual about them asking you for your personal identifiable information for them to update their records, which then in turn they sell to advertiser, debit collectors and credit card companies?
Are you really so stupid as to think this isn't benefiting them in multiple ways? I don't give this information to any random person off the street, why the hell would I give it to the exact people I don't want to have it?
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Might be interesting to see what this data mob has on me and how accurate it is...
I'm a male or female or a cat who makes between $21,000 and $250,000 dollars
I'm between 16 and 79.
I apparently like boobs.
I'm either unemployed, self employed or work for others as a manager or employee.
I may have good credit.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
If they only asked for a name, anyone including your psycho ex-girlfriend could get this information.
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Interesting article though. Nowadays, marketers think they know everything about everything but that's not true as this article proves it. I am a marketer as well and I realize that the more I read about the marketing as discipline, the more I realize I don't know almost anything about it.
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and the errors are probably deliberate - maybe you'll get annoyed enough by them to correct the information.
TFA says:
"Data broker Acxiom did something a little unusual this week. It launched a service that lets you see the data they've collected on you"
Unfortunately that link got you to a page on www.citeworld.com which carries a link to www.nytimes.com
After a wild goose chase I finally got that link ---
https://aboutthedata.com/
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
Or is one wrong data point in what is essentially demographic data irrelevant? Sort of like one athlete with an "obese" BMI doesn't invalidate the concept of BMI on the whole?
Mostly random stuff.
Although the site shows visitors a few facts that some might consider sensitive, like race and ethnicity, it initially omits, at least in the version I saw, intimate references — like “gambling,” “senior needs,” “smoker in the household” and “adult with wealthy parent” — that Acxiom markets to corporate clients but that might discomfit consumers if they knew they were for sale.
So Axciom's transparency portal isn't so transparent at all...
At least the first 6 posts here said "OMG, they wanted all this information to show me my data!"...
Well, geniuses, considering that both Miller's article and the original NY Times article said "....Having filled out an identity verification form that asked for his name, birth date, address and the last four digits of his Social Security number..." personally, I wasn't terribly surprised that they asked for my name, birth date, address and the last four digits of my Social Security number.
Secondly, while I certainly agree that whatever you put into that form ends up going into their database as well, I'd like to pose a stupid question: how ELSE are they going to identify the person requesting the data? I mean, if all I had to put in was my name, then ANYONE could get the data they're about to show me, right? Personally, I strongly suspect that this is more to protect their assets from competitive gathering (after all, data is their business), but one could charitably interpret that this is a REASONABLE step to keep the information they have away from casually-prying eyes that are not the person indicated.
FWIW, it said my information was invalid, and I'd have to be manually identified (and this is all with absolutely correct entries). The second time I tried, it said there's already a user with that email. So, clearly a beta.
And a note to Ron: with a 5-minute scan of your "about Ron Miller" and a listing of articles, I can tell your probable politics - you're an Apple consumer, after all. FYI the fact that you *assert* you don't affiliate with a party also tells me volumes; it doesn't ipso facto mean that you don't in FACT align with a given party, either. And re your question, I guess I'd take the opposite view: while I know by correcting the information, I'm enhancing the value of their product, I'm going to get ads all the time anyway so I'd rather they be relevant.
-Styopa
http://www.networkadvertising.org/choices/#completed give you the ablity to opt out of data collection but there's a catch,
you have to keep your cookies.
This site has changed since I last visited (years?), it used to have a large list of companies you could select to opt out from.
Now it just reads your cookies, 33 companies are listed that "honor" your opt-outs.
I use a rather large HOSTS file and delete my cookies when my browser closes, so this site does me little good.
my results: "These 0 member companies have enabled Online Behavioral Ads for this web browser."
Posted in case someone else can make use of it.
Nah. They have to ask verification questions. It's just like when Google called me the other day telling me my GMail account has been hacked into. In order for them to verify who I was, I had to give them my name, my address, two phone numbers, another email address, my mother's maiden name, the credit card number that was registered on my Play account and a list of all the addresses I had lived at in the last five years. I gave them that information so they would know it was really me and then they helped get my account sorted out.
Did anybody who RTFA read this WITHOUT the elipsis?
I haven't owned a Windows computer in a long time ... we are not interested in children's items.
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Once a data stream becomes polluted, it is almost impossible to clean up. False information continually circulates between sources and companies often reinfecting data that were scrubbed. All the users of "big data" and "analytics" do not seem to grasp that concept, blindly trusting what they find, a group of entities which includes security agencies.
This is why database engines which produce "eventual consistency", such as MongoDB, enrage me. They are almost guaranteeing a polluted data stream. Or maybe I just do not get it.
putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
This is sooo very obvious it is almost not worthy of comment. Obviously a honeypot posting.
Furthermore, the point is most definitely how inaccurate their information may be, as they use it for employment screening, etc., and this particular company has long had congtracts with DHS, and the intel community.