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New Musopen Campaign Wants To "Set Chopin Free"

Eloquence writes "Three years ago, Musopen raised nearly $70,000 to create public domain recordings of works by Beethoven, Brahms, Mozart, Schubert, and others. Now they're running a new campaign with a simple but ambitious objective: 'To preserve indefinitely and without question everything Chopin created. To release his music for free, both in 1080p video and 24 bit 192kHz audio. This is roughly 245 pieces.'" Adds project organizer aarondunn: "His music will be made available via an API powered by Musopen so anyone can come up with ways to explore and present Chopin's life."

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  1. 19th century HD recordings found! by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 3, Funny

    They found an old trunk belonging to George Sand and in it were several Blu-ray disks she made of Chopin performing his career works. Awesome find!

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    1. Re:19th century HD recordings found! by aarondunn · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually we did, now you know what was in the safe: http://www.dailydot.com/society/reddit-whatsinthisthing-locked-safe-new-zealand/

  2. Re:Going to waste bandwidth on useless audio forma by XanC · · Score: 4, Informative

    But this isn't just an end user format! The idea is to set this music free so that it can be used in other projects, remixed, remastered, anything.

  3. we need more stuff like this by issicus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and not just music.

  4. More ambitious by Megahard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    would be J.S.Bach. Over 1000 works.

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    1. Re:More ambitious by aarondunn · · Score: 5, Informative

      Sadly copyrighted, we've asked the performer to release them. No luck so far.

  5. Aaron (founder of Musopen) any ? I can answer? by aarondunn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thanks for all the comments and for those that have backed us. I'll be here if anyone has any questions/comments they'd like answered. -Aaron

    1. Re:Aaron (founder of Musopen) any ? I can answer? by aarondunn · · Score: 5, Informative

      I should add, /. was absolutely essential to the success of our first Kickstarter. I should release some info on our backers from the first time around, it's pretty interesting data. Suffice to say Slashdot referrals made up 30% of the total. So I guess I'm saying I'm counting on you :)

    2. Re:Aaron (founder of Musopen) any ? I can answer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      For the previous project you did I had some complaints regarding the delivery and so here are some suggestions:

      1. FLAC has been pretty much the standard lossless format and I don't see a good reason to use something else.
      2. Keep it all in the same format (bit depth and sample rate). Last time some files were 16bit, some 24bit and whatnot. Same with the tags.
      3. When you're making a torrent, don't put the audio files in one zip file, it makes no sense and it's very annoying.

  6. Every piece ever? by dmomo · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hope they don't forget anything from their Chopin list.

    1. Re:Every piece ever? by aarondunn · · Score: 3, Informative

      Whatever is on wikipedia will be included. We're also consulting with a professor of Music who has written extensively about Chopin.

    2. Re:Every piece ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Chopin Liszt.

  7. Re:Going to waste bandwidth on useless audio forma by aitikin · · Score: 4, Informative

    24-bit makes sense, giving far greater dynamic range (which can be construed as resolution if we want to compare it to photos/videos). Admittedly, calling it 24-bit is a bit absurd as the best I've heard of is closer to 20, maybe 21 bit, but if we're trying to keep within a standardized system, may as well use groups of 8. In older recording/playback system 48k was a vast improvement over 44.1k. The perceived advantages to 88.2k, 96k, 176.4k, and 192k were due to a one octave (88.1k/96k) or two octave (176.4k/192k) low pass filter causing less of a high frequency bump than a tenth of an octave (44.1k) or an eighth of an octave (48k). This is not really necessary anymore as the digital filters perform way better than most people give them credit for.

    As a playback standard, 24-bit 44.1k or 24-bit 48k make perfect sense with current generation, decent quality D/A. 24-bit permits the greater dynamic range and greater dynamic accuracy that pieces like Chopin's can benefit from. There likely will be an audible sonic difference between 44.1k and 192k, but it will be distortion. Some people certainly prefer the sound of these higher bit rates, however it is still not accurate to the original product. If the higher resolution bit depth isn't necessary (as is the case with most modern music) it will not be detrimental to the playback, unlike 192k.

    For anyone looking for a more in depth write up, it was shared here on /. a while back, but there's a great write-up from Neil Young about why these formats don't matter (the argument using solely a 1k test tone is very easy to dither, using a full symphony or even a full piano's range is virtually impossible to mask with dither). I disagree with him in general on the 16-bit vs 24-bit, but, for the most part, the average listener would never know the difference considering the dynamic range in most modern music is still comparable to watching a movie that's 128 x 72 upconverted to 1080p while 1080p would've been available to the producer to begin with.

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  8. Re:API? by aarondunn · · Score: 5, Informative

    API for Chopin actually. And it will be if we make it :) It'll be structured data: listing of all his music with composition dates links from each recording to his sheet music list of major events in his life wikipedia and liner notes about each piece geographical information related to the music or events in his life etc. So people can try to do various things, node map, timelines. We have some of our own ideas we'd like to try.

  9. Re:Going to waste bandwidth on useless audio forma by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All you've done here is prove you don't know shit about recording. 24bit 192khz audio would be ridiculous for a production copy but is relatively mediocre for a studio master.

    The most layman example I can provide is: imagine if you wanted to record a movie in 1080p... and you record the last critical sceen in 1080p but realize you want to zoom in on the hero at the last minuite... you can't... the recording is in the same format as the release. To zoom in digitally you would lose quality. However, if you recorded the entire movie in a much higher format... and there you go. So to master a release, you record in much much higher quality. Well beyond what the human ear can hear. Then you master it down to what you want to release. In video its more obvious why you need it but in audio it's usually related to specific effects like pitch shifters and such. Pitch shifting a low quality recording sounds awful.

  10. Re:Going to waste bandwidth on useless audio forma by Mprx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Slow it down for a bassline and that 192KHz will actually be useful.