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Final Mars One Numbers Are In, Over 200,000 People Applied

An anonymous reader writes "The first round of the Mars One Astronaut Selection Program has now closed for applications. In the 5 month application period, Mars One received interest from 202,586 people from around the world, wanting to be amongst the first human settlers on Mars."

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  1. I would have... by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny

    But there's no beer on Mars.

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    1. Re:I would have... by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Funny

      But plenty of nougat, caramel and chocolate.

    2. Re:I would have... by TWiTfan · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, at least the hard part is over now. Now all we have to do is build a rocket and living quarters to get there and stay.

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    3. Re:I would have... by fritsd · · Score: 2

      yet.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neoUi4poCXI (WARNING: advertisement)

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    4. Re:I would have... by msk · · Score: 2

      Mars needs IPAs.

  2. coincidentally by bitt3n · · Score: 4, Funny

    all of them are mothers-in-law.

    1. Re:coincidentally by Longjmp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not all, the rest are telephone sanitizers.

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    2. Re:coincidentally by Dayze!Confused · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I believe we are all terminally ill

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    3. Re:coincidentally by philip.paradis · · Score: 2

      I'll wager the people signing up for this endeavor assign no particular political value whatsoever to the mission. In stark contrast, politicians make careers of twisting the heartfelt dreams and acts of others to convince the masses that said acts represent this or that "cause" that bears little or no resemblance to the original act.

      You dare to claim insight into the minds of 200k people and distill their motives into a neat little cup to suit your own whims. You must be a politician.

      Mod parent troll. Should the /. admins elect to introduce a "-1 professional politician" option while this story is still open for moderation, please use the more fitting option instead.

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  3. Re:Can't we just send them all? by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm personally of the opinion that anyone with an inclination to volunteer to take what will invariably amount to a one-way trip to Mars based on the technology that we have so far is probably somebody that the world may be better off without.

    Sadly, those we would most like to send, are probably the least likely to apply.

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  4. Salaried? by kaka.mala.vachva · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Will these people get paid for the seven years they train? I'm in a pessimistic mood today, so I'm assuming that they will not actually reach Mars - just wondering what they will get for the seven years they put in.

  5. Re:Can't we just send them all? by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm personally of the opinion that anyone with an inclination to volunteer to take what will invariably amount to a one-way trip to Mars based on the technology that we have so far is probably somebody that the world may be better off without.

    They are people with "the right stuff". While the Apollo astronauts knew the plan was to come back, they must have been ready to face a one way trip, as the probability of that was, or must a least have seemed high.

  6. Of course the application wasn't free by ModernGeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I believe the application fee was $35, so they have already raised a whopping $7 million that I assume will be leveraged for more publicity stunts in raising further money for the mission.

    The main speciality of the Mars One project is fundraising and public relations, not space travel.

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    1. Re:Of course the application wasn't free by hedwards · · Score: 4, Funny

      I doubt they turned a profit on that. $35 probably barely covered the cost of reviewing the application.

    2. Re:Of course the application wasn't free by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, too original. Needs a tie in to an exsiting franchise.

      Beverly Hills Chihuahua 4: Stars on Mars

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    3. Re:Of course the application wasn't free by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wait...you think they actually reviewed the applications? They're likely scanned into a database for "future use".

      I'm just jealous I didn't think of a stunt like this.

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    4. Re:Of course the application wasn't free by ubungy · · Score: 2

      The application fee was variable depending on location. Some were $35 some were much lower. Also, they didn't reach the goal of half of a million applicants. This put them below their forecast funds from applications. Sorry can't find source.

    5. Re:Of course the application wasn't free by notanalien_justgreen · · Score: 2

      That's the point. They're NOT going to even try this. The whole organization is nothing more than an attempt to extract money from suckers. That's $7Million they can bank without barely lifting a finger.

    6. Re:Of course the application wasn't free by notanalien_justgreen · · Score: 4, Informative

      I post this every time another MarsOne piece of fundraising comes up. So here goes again....

      I really wish people would stop posting MarsOne propaganda. It's a scam, pure and simple. It's been pointed out time and time again that their team is primarily artists and PR people. Just look here for yourself:

      http://www.mars-one.com/en/about-mars-one/team

      Of the 7 people listed there's: an artist, an editor, a communication specialist, a communications director, and an MD. There's only 2 people who could conceivably have any expertise on getting to Mars.

      They did an interview (AMA) on reddit and were torn apart:

      http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ufb42/ama_i_am_founder_of_mars_one_sending_four_people/

      They lack any coherent plan on how they're going to even test their technology, let alone actually get people to Mars. Stop looking towards entertainers to do what you know will require a massive engineering effort. These people are after free press and free money.

      STOP FEEDING THESE PEOPLE FREE PRESS!

    7. Re:Of course the application wasn't free by mattack2 · · Score: 2

      Yeah.. and nobody can build a new successful electric car company... and nobody can build commercial space vehicles that are successful.

    8. Re:Of course the application wasn't free by geekpowa · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nice strawman.

      Successful commercial launch systems already exist. And soon, in a few years probably, commercial man rated launch systems will exist too. No one here is refuting this.

      Mars One is an out and out scam. That is the claim. Anyone who thinks Mars One is legit needs to familiarise themselves with what a real manned space mission looks like and what is really involved, the time, cost, and expertise, of a manned space mission. I suggest start here. And save yourself the bother of arguing that Apollo was 40 years old and with todays methods make it easier. Here are some mind boggling facts to get your head around and hopefully instil some badly needed incredulity:

      1. We have not returned to the moon or even left orbit of the planet since 1972

      2. Apollo cost $170b in todays rough figures. 30 times more expensive than Mars One

      3. Apollo at its peak employed over 400 thousand people. Mars One - today is a dozen or so and most of them are Marketing/PR types who know fuck all about problem domain they are working in

      4. Apollo mission profile is significantly simpler than Mars One. Although the return journey complicated the mission profile,the mission profile of Mars One incurs its own complications : extended stay in deep space and the necessity to provide life support and supplies for extended period of time

      5. Apollo delivered in about 8 years along the way they had real and incremental work outputs to show for it. Mars one have been going from about 2011 and they have no tangible outputs to show for it other than martketing/PR spin

  7. 202586 by plopez · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lemmings.

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    1. Re:202586 by Calydor · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm pretty sure that being picked as one of the lucky few does not suddenly rob you of the right to say you've changed your mind when you see the rocket put together by the cheap brand of duct tape. On the other hand, this publicity stunt might actually make people in power realize that there are people out there who will volunteer despite the risk, and that maybe it's worth a try after all.

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    2. Re:202586 by ron_ivi · · Score: 2

      So you're suggesting they're being pushed by Disney?

    3. Re:202586 by kannibal_klown · · Score: 4, Interesting

      True, but it's a decision you'd want to make earlier-than-later.

      Deciding to at least start the program is a life-changing thing. For example, I doubt you'd be able to keep your job so that means losing your job AND your home since you couldn't afford payments past X months.

      So let's say they talk a great game and it looks like they have their "act" together. They have scientists, their mockups look sound, etc.

      A hypothetical 2 years period goes by while you're training and what-not... and you realize WOW these people do NOT know what they're doing. Their ships aren't going to be able to get 10ft off the ground let alone make it to Mars. These conditions are not going to last more than X months let alone the planned Y decades. These people have no idea what they're doing.

      So you quit... and now what. You're unemployed and homeless... and when asked about the 2 year gap on your resume you labeled a psycho for thinking that Mars One (now known as a cluster-f#@k) was actually going to happen.

  8. Modern era Mayflower by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's why people apply and who applies: Some do it for the 15 minutes of fame, surely, but many others are serious about it. They know the risk, they know it's a one-way ticket, but their lives are going nowhere on this planet, they've got nothing to lose and this may be just the ticket for them to do something useful for humanity.

    Others may have a successful life already but they don't think in terms of "me" and "my" but in terms of humanity and its long-term goals over several generations.

    And even if the mission fails, one learns from mistakes and at least they've done something to improve the next mission's chances. Both categories of applicants are real heroes. Live or die.

    1. Re:Modern era Mayflower by spyfrog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The difference being of course that the Mayflower settlers had a good chance of being self sustained. They didn't change planet to one totally inhospitable towards humans. They believed that they would be able to survive by simple using the same techniques as in England. This turned out to be wrong but it was more a lack off knowledge than anything else that killed them off - the place apparently supports life since people live there to this day.

      Going to Mars is a totally different ballgame. You can't support yourself on Mars, at least not from the beginning. You have to trust that provisions come from Earth. If your supplies doesn't come, you starve or die from suffixation.

    2. Re:Modern era Mayflower by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Puritans were not 'fleeing' religious persecution. Being 'Puritans', they strongly disapproved of the increasing liberalism in Europe. They traveled to the new world so that they could enforce their views in the new colonies.

  9. Re:Can't we just send them all? by SecurityGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really? Why? Every single one of us is going to die of something, someday. I didn't apply, but thinking about it now, it's tempting. Getting to stand on another planet? Maybe even breaking ground for those who will come later? Really, that's kind of awesome. It's fine to say that maybe someday the technology will exist to make this safer, or even routine, but I'm pretty certain to die of something else before that happens.

  10. Obligatory! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a hard enough time on this planet, much less going it on the next farthest rock out!

    On a serious note... as long as I had tasks and hobbies to entertain myself on the trip to Mars, I think I'd be fine. Getting along with people is the least of my problems. To me repititious boredom would appear to be the real killer. There is also that little psyche bit of knowing that you're on a one way ticket to an uninhabittable barren wasteland.

    Of course, having a sense of adventure would probably help that!

    1. Re:Obligatory! by phobos512 · · Score: 2

      Hey, man, we're all on a one-way trip to somewhere, man. /said the hippie to no one in particular...

  11. Futile by HyperQuantum · · Score: 2, Funny

    So... they think they can escape the divine judgment by running away to Mars...

    Really pointless, as they will find out.

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  12. Hardly enough enough bodies . . . by StefanJ · · Score: 4, Funny

    . . . to fertilize King Barsoom II's lawn and flower gardens! MARS NEEDS MULCH!

    But seriously: Initial training for the would-be colonists will consist of living for five years in trailer homes buried beneath the soil of Antarctica's "dry deserts." People who can't cope with the psychological pressure, or who are judged insufficiently entertaining by the casting group of the MARS LIVE! production company and its advertisers and charter sponsors, will be summarily kicked off of the program. (They will receive copies of the home game, which consists of a refrigerator box equipped with fake controls and a framed color print of a Mars probe landing site.)

  13. Re:Great, now examine them... by spleendamage · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just find someone who is addicted to single-player turn-based strategy computer games. They'd complain about the trip being too short.
    Like ... my friend, not me.

  14. Futurama should be a sponsor by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

    I don't want to live on this planet anymore. - Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth

  15. Re:Can't we just send them all? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They are people with "the right stuff". While the Apollo astronauts knew the plan was to come back, they must have been ready to face a one way trip, as the probability of that was, or must a least have seemed high.

    The difference being that this trip IS a "one way" trip.

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  16. Hope they bring there towel by PyrousLavawalker · · Score: 2

    Oh! Thought they would be all lawyers and hairstylists.

    1. Re:Hope they bring there towel by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      You forgot about the telephone sanitizers. Everyone always forgets about the telephone sanitizers.

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  17. Re:Great, now examine them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Six dollars of game, $400 of laptop, and a couple spare solar fins on the ship to keep the battery charged.

    Day 422: I seem to be the only Mars One colonist to notice that we have actually landed on Mars. I found one of the old Mars Rovers and have taken to behaving as if it was a stubborn pet dog to stay sane. While my garden is growing almost as well as the test garden did on earth, I have no idea where the other colonists manage to keep finding the Mountain Dew and beef jerky that provides their sustenance.

  18. $35 and a mouse click are meaningless by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 2

    Build the rocket and ask who wants to actually take the trip. Lots of people are willing to indulge in a hypothetical sacrifice. BTW, I'm planning to stop eating red meat any day now.

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  19. Step 2: by superdave80 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Convince each of these 220k people to each donate $1mil to get a spaceship built...

  20. Who is that? by gr8_phk · · Score: 2

    Others may have a successful life already but they don't think in terms of "me" and "my" but in terms of humanity and its long-term goals over several generations.

    While I agree with some of your statements, this one seems false. If someone was truly concerned about the long-term prospects of humanity I doubt they would conclude the best thing for them to do is die in one of the first colonies on mars. Realizing their rarity, I should thing they'd wait until a functional colony is established and only THEN try to have some kind of influence on its development.

    1. Re:Who is that? by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Insightful

      More to the point, they would try to influence the preparation to ensure that by the time they get there, the colony would be almost self-sustaining already. There's no reason it can't be done. Drop a bunch of large modules with breathable air and CO2 scrubbers, and verify remotely that they are all functioning before you send people. Then drop enough spare parts to scrub the air for at least a few decades, along with enough non-perishable food to last a similar period of time. Then drop enough building materials to build a huge, sealed, glass habitat to serve as a greenhouse for plants. Then drop equipment needed to build it (think "electric crane"). Then drop bags and bags of dirt. Then drop crates of seeds. Then drop enough solar panels to cover the state of Rhode Island and enough wire to hook it all up. Then remotely control all the equipment to make sure everything is working correctly. Then send the people to put it together. By that time, you've launched a dozen or more unmanned missions over the course of a decade, so you're sure of the launch vehicle and the landing craft. You've provided enough materials to create a sustainable living space, and you've provided enough materials to survive until they finish creating that space.

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    2. Re:Who is that? by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      I'm not talking about the living areas. That's what the prefabricated pods are for. I'm talking about a partially pressurized dome as a place to grow food. Tents don't conduct light, ergo, plants don't grow. With tents, your power requirements go through the roof, because you have to both artificially light and heat your greenhouse. With glass (or plexiglass), you can get away with heat, and maybe not even all that much of that. Solar panels produce less and less power over time; a greenhouse will continue to provide the same amount of light and heat essentially forever, assuming nothing damages it.

      Oh, yeah. I forgot the most important part. You need the world's largest air pump. (To be more precise, you need several of them so that you'll have spares.) You're going to need to bring the pressure of that dome up to at least a tenth of an atmosphere using only the available air—about a 20:1 increase in pressure—or else the plants will wither and die.

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  21. Re:Can't we just send them all? by He+Who+Has+No+Name · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What, they'll build Australia 2: Outback Harder?

  22. One way trip by Carnivore24 · · Score: 2

    Alone all I need is Candy Crush and a good battery, shouldn't be a problem.

  23. Re:Can't we just send them all? by SecurityGuy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I want to live forever. Or at least long enough that I don't want to anymore. The problem is, that's not an option. When I was young(er) and (more) naive, I believed that maybe we finally live in a time where technology and medicine would advance fast enough that I wouldn't have to suffer death, at least not for a long, long time. It's become apparent that that's not the case. Why not do something fantastic before the inevitable?

  24. Re:Can't we just send them all? by SecurityGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why? People die doing things all the time now. Climbing mountains. Racing cars. Swimming. Running. Sleeping.

    I don't know, I think I'd be chuckling to myself thinking yep, I'm dying, just like every one of you schlubs will. But I'm doing it on Mars.

  25. Re:Can't we just send them all? by SecurityTheatre · · Score: 2

    Actually, in surveys of REAL ASTRONAUTS, a number of them have said very clearly that to be the first team to go to Mars, they would willingly make it a one-way trip.

    The tools that applied are hardly qualified to operate a spacecraft. I would want to select someone that is in *absurdly* good shape and has the willpower to do it themselves. I would want someone who has already been subject to high-gee training, and has a low propensity for motion sickness.

    i would want to choose someone with an extremely high amount of willpower and who is very well educated in both the general sciences as well as mechanically inclined.

    Yes, many of these things can be trained, but the TYPE OF PEOPLE we want going on this trip are those who do these things anyway, because that's WHO THEY ARE.

    That said, there are many many very qualified people within the military, NASA and other occupations that would do it AND are qualified to do it.

    It must be a voluntary process, obviously, but I think there would be no shortage of volunteers, honestly.

  26. Don't Call Us by Princeofcups · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is purely publicity and funding for the "Program." Let's be serious. Donating their $35 does not in any way make them eligible for anything. Everyone knows that, or they are delusional. If anyone is going to Mars, they will be chosen based a long sequence of qualifications and skills, and sending in $35 is not one of those.

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  27. Re:Can't we just send them all? by pluther · · Score: 4, Insightful
    And then there are those of us who are well aware of the risks, and have no illusions about how "exciting" it would be. And have signed up anyway.

    I'm someone with close friends, good family, and active social life, a couple of different fulfilling hobbies, and a steady career that I'm 15 years into and 20 years from retirement from.

    And I signed up.

    I began my application by listing a myriad different ways the mission could fail, from exploding on launch, to losing air on the way there, to crashing into the planet, to starving to death on the surface, to the most likely: the project running out of money before ever leaving the ground. These are not 200,000 delusional people. These are not 200,000 people who think they're signing up for a quick trip on the Millennium Falcon Many, if not most, of these people know what they're getting into, as much as it can be known at this point. And we've signed up, to go to Mars.

    The project will probably fail. Simply because most ambitious projects fail.But some succeed. The probability of failure is not a reason not to be ambitious.

    But why go? I can't speak for everyone who signed up. But for myself, the answer is simple. We have to go. We have to expand beyond our planet. Here's somebody trying to do something about it. And I can't pass up the opportunity to be part of it. 47 years ago today the words "To boldly go where no man has gone before" were first uttered in public. And no, you don't need to point out that the show was fiction. But the words meant something.

    There are always people willing to go new places. And people willing to go with them.

    Columbus wasn't alone on his ship to America. Shackleton had to turn down almost 5000 volunteers for his South Pole expedition. Going to Mars is an even bigger deal. I'm not surprised they got 200,000 applicants. And it's OK that you can't imagine wanting to go. I can't imagine *not* wanting to go.

    And yeah, the project will likely fail. But even if it does, something will be learned. Something new will be gained. And eventually, someone will use those lessons and succeed. And I'd be glad to be part of one step of that process. That's why I sent in my application.

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