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Ferrari's New Car Tech Idea: Make Car Go Really Fast

cartechboy writes "Forget EV batteries and autonomous driving. Ferrari understands old-school advanced car tech — basically, they just want to make the thing go ridiculously fast. The Italians showed off very serious chasis technology today in the new Ferrari Speciale at the Frankfurt Auto Show. The new electronic 'Side Slip angle Control' system uses algorithms that compute and analyze lateral acceleration, yaw angle, steering wheel angle and wheel speed in real-time. The system compares these readings to target data, and then just adjusts traction control and electric differential to be more efficient. Top speed: 202 mph."

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  1. Please proofread by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The word chassis has a double-S in the middle.

    1. Re:Please proofread by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 5, Funny

      The word chassis has a double-S in the middle.

      At +200mph it gets Dopplered down from a double to a single "s"... On the upside, as it passes you the double "s" comes back... but then when it's going away it has three in a row... chasssis.

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  2. 201 mph by swaq · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ferrari built a car that could do 201 mph in 1987. Glad to see they're improving...

    1. Re:201 mph by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny

      Who cares? You're never going to actually drive it that fast.

      Don't get to California much, do you?

      There's a classic/reallyexpensive car get together in Monterey/Pebble Beach every years and some of these ultra spiff cars go out to Laguna Seca and drive around very fast.

      One year I was driving to work and the road I was on was quite possibly one of the most expensive traffic jams you could find anywhere in the world. About a half mile of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Jaguar, Bentley, Porsche, Maserati, Mercedes, et al. Among the Italian cars alone I hadn't seen so much red since the last time I looked into my checking account. But I fit right in, in my bright red Dodge pickup (c:

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    2. Re:201 mph by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 3, Informative

      Who cares? You're never going to actually drive it that fast.

      Don't get to California much, do you?

      Seriously. I was doing about 85 in my Z3 on 101 in Mendocino County and got passed by a silver-blue Ferrari that had to be well over 120. Scared the shit out of me.

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    3. Re:201 mph by MassiveForces · · Score: 5, Funny

      A rare reverse-car analogy folks

    4. Re:201 mph by cyn1c77 · · Score: 2

      Who cares? You're never going to actually drive it that fast.

      Bullshit. You, sir, have apparently never been to a track day. I may not hit 200mph, but I regularly get my Ducati 1098 (another example of Italian looks-good-goes-fast technology) to a buck eighty-five. There are three pro tracks within a two-hour ride (one is only forty-five minutes away) from my house that have track days nearly every weekend of the year. For a fee ranging from $40 to about $150 per day, I can drag a knee at 120mph and tuck in for a speed run on the straight-away for hours on end. There are plenty of racing venues that cater to well-heeled speed freaks so we can ride fast in a controlled, reasonably safe environment for a trivial amount of scratch. So fuck you, coward -- too bad you will never get to enjoy the thrill of piloting an exquisitely engineered machine at the edge of its performance envelope. That takes money and balls, two (three?) things you obviously lack.

      Impressive! You first acknowledge that the AC's statement was right in your third sentence and then proceed to insult him?

    5. Re:201 mph by KingMotley · · Score: 2

      To my office? I don't think the formula 1 car would survive the potholes.

  3. Re:No thanks... by geekoid · · Score: 2

    Boring person with boring care isn't interested in exciting things. News at 6 (past your bedtime)

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  4. Re:No thanks... by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Funny

    My '96 Corolla can go faster than the speed limit whenever I want it to.

    Sure, but it takes 16 city blocks to get up to speed.

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  5. Re:No thanks... by Dogtanian · · Score: 2

    But does your Corolla show the world how big your dick is?

    Yes, it does. It shows that his dick is pretty big and he doesn't have to rely on a flashy car to impress the girls.

    Well, either that or he's skint and can't afford a Ferrari. Not sure which.

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  6. Some say... by bobdehnhardt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can't wait for The Stig to take it round the track. Some say his home computer is a Commodore Amiga, and he still believes 640K is more than enough RAM for anyone.

  7. Re:202 mph by MurukeshM · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's about 325 kmph. The Bugatti Veyron has a top speed of over 406 kmph. What's so special about this Ferrari?

  8. Re:202 mph by ackthpt · · Score: 2

    The Veyron costs like 5 times as much.

    Also contains massive quantities of unobtainium.

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  9. Re:No thanks... by SleazyRidr · · Score: 2

    Why is it acceptable to say that guys drive cool cars because they have small penises? Would it be ok to say that women get nice handbags because they have small vaginas?

  10. Re:202 mph by You're+All+Wrong · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Then buy a ZR1 that costs 1/20th of a Veyron, and can still go faster than this Ferrari.

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  11. Re:202 mph by dicobalt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But does the ZR1 handle as well on a track in the twisties? Of course, I'm going on the assumption that people get cars like this to race them. Where racing is defined by doing something more complicated than going in a straight line.

  12. Re:and like many Italian sports cars by AlexOsadzinski · · Score: 2

    The Speciale doesn't replace the Italia (the coupe) or the Spider (the convertible). It's typical for Ferrari to announce a coupe first, then the convertible a couple of years later, and then the stripped-down go-fast version a couple of years after that.

    The Italia and Spider are very luxurious, while also being super-fast sports cars with great sound and drama. The Speciale is targeted to be much more raw, with fewer amenities, a lot less soundproofing and less weight. It's aimed largely at people who want to track their cars, while still being street legal.

    Some Ferraristas love the new body styling, while others don't. It's not as pure as the Italia, but it's way more menacing.

  13. Re:202 mph by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 4, Informative

    When Jeremy Clarkson reviews the ZR1 on Top Gear, he acknowledges that it can go toe to toe with the 458 Italia on the track despite being a fraction of the price. But he points out that the ZR1 is absolutely horrible to drive on the street.

  14. Re:Ferrari by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

    This car isn't their fastest, and they aren't the fastest maker. This is about extending stability control to speeds well above legal. 99.9% of the cars won't see it ever used, but they are bought for their "capabilities" not performance, so it's a valuable feature for the billionaire that wants the exclusivity to drive 35 mph on city streets.

  15. Re:202 mph by AlexOsadzinski · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Corvette and the 458 are both terrific cars, but in very different ways.

    I don't have a ZR1, but I have the 427, which is reasonably close to the ZR1 in many ways. While Chevrolet probably makes very little money on the Corvette, they still have to cut a lot of corners, and it is NOT an exotic. The performance is amazing in a straight line, and not bad on the twisties. The interior is, um, not impressive, although it's improved on the new C7 versions. You're sitting in a plastic car that's fantastic value for money and a lot of fun.

    The 458 (Italia version, as I can't speak for the Speciale or Spider) is a luxury exotic. It's an "event" to drive it, and the dynamics, sound and overall experience strictly dominate the Corvette. But the Corvette (the 427 at least) is only $80k, and a moderately specced Italia is over $300k: every one is highly customized for the buyer by the factory, and every option is, um, fully priced, e.g. $32k for special paint, $n,000 for every bit of carbon, etc. For getting from one place to another, the Ferrari isn't worth 4 times the Corvette's price. For sheer fun and excitement, "worth" is in the mind of the buyer.

  16. Re:202 mph by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It isn't the straight line top speed that matters. You could always get 200+ mph out of big block American V8s. It's speed and stability around corners that matters. This Ferrari seewms just the ticket for that off-camber, diminishing radius turn with a pothole at the apex.

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  17. Re:202 mph by doctor+woot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really pity whoever needs to fork out 2 million for a chance at getting laid.

  18. Germany vs Italy by GoogleShill · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My 996 Porsche 911 Turbo had steering wheel angle, yaw rate and lateral acceleration sensors and could brake each wheel independently. It also had a viscous coupling in the center diff to keep up to 90% of the power to the rear wheels, only giving the fronts as much as they needed. The 997 model introduced an electromagnetic coupling for even more precise control (and the ability to run different diameter tires). Even in a 50 MPH slide with all four wheels spinning, that thing would go almost exactly where you pointed it. That feeling is one of the finer things in life.

    I didn't RTFA, but I don't see what Ferrari has done here that Porsche didn't have 9 years ago.

  19. Re:202 mph by Flere+Imsaho · · Score: 4, Informative

    Try turning in a Veyron at 406 kph and see what happens. You have to switch the car (when parked - you need the ignition key) into a special mode to get to it's top speed, and that mode includes lowering the spoiler to reduce downforce.

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  20. Re:202 mph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm going on the assumption that people get cars like this to race them.

    Umm...no. People get cars like this to overtly display their abundance of wealth to members of the opposite sex while still allowing them to pretend that they're interested in something beyond that wealth. That they go fast is just a happy coincidence.

  21. That'd be a Bitch... by Greyfox · · Score: 2

    A while back I jokingly told a fellow skydiver I refused to fall slower than the top speed in my car. Average terminal velocity is 120 mph. Falling at 200mph would be kind of a bitch. I might be able to fall faster than the Ferrari if you pushed it out the back of the plane, though (Actually, that'd make an awesome Red Bull commercial...)

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  22. Mitsibishi did this way before Prosche by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    They introduced AYC in 1996 with Lancer Evolution IV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Yaw_Control
    The system takes inputs: .steering angle .lateral acceleration .longitudinal acceleration .throttle position .wheel speed
    And actuates the hydraulic system to split the torque on rear axel helping the car in turn in and out of the corner.
          In 2001, with Evolution VII in addition to rear differential they introduced ACD - Active Center Differential, that would modulate torque between front and rear axel. In addition almost all JDM models had torsen front differential.

    This is most sophisticated AWD system on the market. Porsche pfft...

  23. Re:and like many Italian sports cars by PPH · · Score: 2

    All you people can think about is speed. I'm waiting for a nice, economical hybrid. At 78 mpg, this beats a Prius (in more ways than one).

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  24. Re:No thanks... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    Why is it acceptable to say that guys drive cool cars because they have small penises?

    Because it's true. Of course, for most of them it's just because they're old, and it's shriveled.

    Would it be ok to say that women get nice handbags because they have small vaginas?

    If anything, it would be for big ones. But do women really care? Tight, loose, some men will always be interested.

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  25. Re:202 mph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The short answer: Yes.

    The long answer: The C6 Z06 has a faster lap time around the Nürburgring than any Ferrari.

  26. Re:202 mph by You're+All+Wrong · · Score: 2

    Any *street legal* Ferrari, definitely.

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  27. Re:202 mph by Undead+Waffle · · Score: 2

    He also called the ZR1 car of the year when it came out and from what I remember he did buy one. They just like to bash American cars on the show. It's a comedy show first and a car show second. The ZR1 has the magnetic suspension so it can be adjusted between stiffer and softer. I can't say personally how much it actually changes though. I have a base model with the Z51 option (stiffer suspension) that I daily drive and it's fine. If you drive on bumpy roads it can be rough, but it's a sports car and that's the trade-off for better handling on a smooth road. It's a Corvette so you can always mod it. And the visibility in a Corvette is the best I've ever seen because of the giant rear window. The squeaks and rattles are real though...

  28. Re:202 mph by MMC+Monster · · Score: 2

    No. People with this sort of money realize that just having the money is enough to attract more women than they want.

    They buy the cars because they want the status symbols among their (predominately male) peers or even just to themselves.

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  29. Re:202 mph by flyneye · · Score: 2

    I've got a 79 Trans Am with a 403 Olds that can kick the shit out of wimpy 202 mph. Lets race for titles, buddy.

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