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Ferrari's New Car Tech Idea: Make Car Go Really Fast
cartechboy writes "Forget EV batteries and autonomous driving. Ferrari understands old-school advanced car tech — basically, they just want to make the thing go ridiculously fast. The Italians showed off very serious chasis technology today in the new Ferrari Speciale at the Frankfurt Auto Show. The new electronic 'Side Slip angle Control' system uses algorithms that compute and analyze lateral acceleration, yaw angle, steering wheel angle and wheel speed in real-time. The system compares these readings to target data, and then just adjusts traction control and electric differential to be more efficient. Top speed: 202 mph."
The word chassis has a double-S in the middle.
That's about 90.3 m/s!
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Ferrari is still awesome though. Give me one now.
That's why I bought a Saturn.
Just such a shame they asked people to obey "traffic sings" at the very end. Although they may have been talking about the engine note...
Ferrari built a car that could do 201 mph in 1987. Glad to see they're improving...
Even when its in a traffic jam? Because thats the technology I want...
chances are it gets 8 miles to the gallon, thus you get a top speed of 202 mph for three minutes before the next refill... even though that refill might be in another county.
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My driveway has several turns that severely limit how quickly I can get down to check on the mail.
Boring person with boring care isn't interested in exciting things. News at 6 (past your bedtime)
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What does fancy cornering technology have to do with top speed?
My '96 Corolla can go faster than the speed limit whenever I want it to.
Sure, but it takes 16 city blocks to get up to speed.
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But does your Corolla show the world how big your dick is?
Yes, it does. It shows that his dick is pretty big and he doesn't have to rely on a flashy car to impress the girls.
Well, either that or he's skint and can't afford a Ferrari. Not sure which.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_F40
(1987...top speed, 201.4 mph)
-Styopa
Can't wait for The Stig to take it round the track. Some say his home computer is a Commodore Amiga, and he still believes 640K is more than enough RAM for anyone.
Oooooh. Aaaaaah. Sorry about Bill...
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Why is it acceptable to say that guys drive cool cars because they have small penises? Would it be ok to say that women get nice handbags because they have small vaginas?
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Look for the Detrafficator, may be illegal if your country have laws...
Tomorrow is another day...
No, because that would be sexist...
cars are using tech to go fast. It's about time~
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Who says it's acceptable?
to be a fair comparison small vagina isn't really an insult. But that besides the point.
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In a race a DeLorean reachs the finish line like 30 years before the Ferrari.
If you don't even know how to spell Maserati, I seriously doubt you own one.
Whoosh - that's the sound of a Maserati passing over your head.
My 996 Porsche 911 Turbo had steering wheel angle, yaw rate and lateral acceleration sensors and could brake each wheel independently. It also had a viscous coupling in the center diff to keep up to 90% of the power to the rear wheels, only giving the fronts as much as they needed. The 997 model introduced an electromagnetic coupling for even more precise control (and the ability to run different diameter tires). Even in a 50 MPH slide with all four wheels spinning, that thing would go almost exactly where you pointed it. That feeling is one of the finer things in life.
I didn't RTFA, but I don't see what Ferrari has done here that Porsche didn't have 9 years ago.
You just made Joe Walsh shed a tear...
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A while back I jokingly told a fellow skydiver I refused to fall slower than the top speed in my car. Average terminal velocity is 120 mph. Falling at 200mph would be kind of a bitch. I might be able to fall faster than the Ferrari if you pushed it out the back of the plane, though (Actually, that'd make an awesome Red Bull commercial...)
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
You may jest, but I recently took my '99 Corolla (Automatic, on worn out no-name (Wanli) winter tyres) to a track day with Mustangs and was catching up with some of them :)
Sure, those drivers probably don't know how to drive fast (Everyone has to learn, right!) or were too scared to scratch their precious, but come on, seriously? A Corolla faster than a Mustang? That should not be :)
Made me chuckle inside at least :)
They introduced AYC in 1996 with Lancer Evolution IV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Yaw_Control .steering angle .lateral acceleration .longitudinal acceleration .throttle position .wheel speed
The system takes inputs:
And actuates the hydraulic system to split the torque on rear axel helping the car in turn in and out of the corner.
In 2001, with Evolution VII in addition to rear differential they introduced ACD - Active Center Differential, that would modulate torque between front and rear axel. In addition almost all JDM models had torsen front differential.
This is most sophisticated AWD system on the market. Porsche pfft...
The real joy is that once you are above about 150 feet, you don't have to worry so much about running into stuff
The 500 kV power line towers out behind my place are taller than that. You'd make a nice plasma arc.
Have gnu, will travel.
I want to take the Astro to a track day, though it would almost certainly disintegrate. I embarrass people with it regularly, even on twisty roads.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Why is it acceptable to say that guys drive cool cars because they have small penises?
Because it's true. Of course, for most of them it's just because they're old, and it's shriveled.
Would it be ok to say that women get nice handbags because they have small vaginas?
If anything, it would be for big ones. But do women really care? Tight, loose, some men will always be interested.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Comparing vettes to Ferrari until I drove an F12 Berlinetta. Z06, ZR1 are both great cars, even the base vette is amazing.
None of them compare to the latest and greatest driving experience from Ferrari.
At 202 mph, they are 1 mph better than tha official top speed of the Ferrari F-40, released in 1987.
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Boring person with boring care isn't interested in exciting things.
Did my stint with drag racing and motocross years ago. Fast and pretty exciting. Eventually, they became..... boring. Don't assume that what you find exciting is what everyone else finds exciting.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Forget EV batteries and autonomous driving. Ferrari understands old-school advanced car tech — basically, they just want to make the thing go ridiculously fast.
What is "old-school advanced car tech"? The original "old-school advanced car tech" was stuff to make cars reliable and serviceable in an environment of poor-quality roads and no service centers. Or maybe the "old-school advanced car tech" that Saab created to make their cars safe. The phrase certainly doesn't equate to making the thing go ridiculously fast in my mind.
Yay! Ferrari made another fast car. But everyone is playing with electronics to do the same kinds of things these days and McLaren road cars probably makes better use of their electronics than most any Ferrari does. As far as advanced car tech, I think Lamborghini's use of carbon and how much weight they have been able to take weight out of their cars is a lot more interesting.
You are not allowed to drive that fast anywhere in the world anyhow (except germany where you cant because the highways are full anyhow). I'd rather have a more comfy car that does a top of 200 (km/h that is) but it utterly silent and efficient (can we do 5l per 100km in _real_ conditions?) until you hit at least 150.
Fun innit. I know I stung some egos bad that day.
Had a lot of fun too as it was my first time on the track in about 13 years. People talk about some cars not being fun to drive, I reckon any car can be fun if you try hard enough :)
If you have not been on the track, do it - it's a different world.
When I first started racing in ~'95, I already thought of myself as a fairly accomplished driver when it came to car control and picking fast lines. Once I got on the track I learned how wrong I was. You simply can't drive like that on the road unless you are on a closed stage or something. There is always too much to think about, too many compromises to worry about. On the track, you don't have to worry about as much of that and you can concentrate on perfecting the lines and not worrying about getting 'stuck' in a tree (It was this thought that started me out in racing).
Do it :)
Oh and I thought the Corolla would disintegrate, but it made it. All that really happened was 50% wear on a set of brand new front pads that I put on fresh for the day. :)
Give it an oil change first too
I fully intend to attend a track day, but not actually in the Astro. Instead I will take my 300SD and see how fast I can go through the trap, I've always wondered. It's pretty easy to pin the needle at 85. I will need another set of tires though, because otherwise I'll have to go around every turn sideways. I bought these for longevity.
I've only ever owned one car that would reasonably do more than a buck twenty-five, and that was my 1960 Dodge Phoenix Dart. It was still rock-steady at that speed, and would have done more. I had my IROC up to that once, then the front started to lift off. Nice one, Chevrolet.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
In my experience there are lots more large vaginas out there than small penises.
How fortunate for you! Most people with large vaginas think all penises are small.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
"Squid"? Do you understand the meaning of the term? Some guy on his Duc on a track is absolutely not a squid since track requirements are pretty strict. I have a one piece leather suit, full face helmet, gloves past the wrists and boots past the ankles when I hit the track on my 'busa or SV in addition to taped up lights and non-slippery coolant (no 'anti-freeze' allowed).
The only douchebag here are the ACs showing their ignorance.
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Shit better not happen!
You may jest
As the proud, former owner of not one but two 1992 Toyota Corollas (Well, OK, one was a Geo Prizm, but it's the same damn car), I most certainly do!
In all honestly, that little red riceburner still sits in the top 3 of my list of Favorite Cars I've Owned, after the 76 Trans Am (cripes but that car was fast!) and 81 GMC Stepside I built with my dad. I was super bummed when the transmission gave out.
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The McLarens have been using this for a couple of years now already.
Almost so crazy that it might just work!
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'92, weren't they still RWD or something, back when Corollas were cool?
To be clear, my '99 is one of those annoying crapolabox ones that blocks up the roads everywhere you go..
Unless I'm driving it lol...
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g72/06gtpony/GTAMC%20Track%20Day%20-%20May%2015%202013/DSC_0726.jpg
Poor POS car :(
I have a 99 Safari, the GMC stablemate to the Astro, and I do the same with it.
It handles pretty good, for a huge blue brick.
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Nope; the last RWD 'Rolla was the 1987 AE-86 (Hachi Roku) GT-S.
I did, at one point, try to stick a high compression JDM engine in one of my '92s, but the wiring harness and exhaust parts disappeared off the engine during shipping, and were pretty much irreplaceable. :(
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The cars are overpriced, poorly built, and there is virtually zero technological innovation.
Wait... Are we talking Apple or Ferrari ?
The particularly impressive thing about Ferrari is that they manage to be so successful in a country where the government not only steals their money to pay for "healthcare" and "education", but also literally steals their employees for six weeks a year by mandating minimums for paid time off.
You can't spell "oneiromancy" without "roman".
Can you back up that number? It's a tad high. I've read numbers of max 6 g in high speed cornering,and that's exceptional.
You're looking for a motorcycle, then. They've been around for a while!
But going between traffic on a motorcycle is not legal everywhere either. And it is not a good idea anywhere.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
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Agreed!
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